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NASA BlueMarble: Next Generation

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the looking-down dept.

Space 168

gbnewby writes "Remember the NASA Blue Marble composite image of earth from space, completely cloud free? Today a whole new series was released showing earth scenes from cloudless days across all 12 months of 2004. These beautiful images come in many different resolutions and formats. NASA even provided some animations. We and others have set up web, ftp and rsync mirrors; let the Torrents begin!"

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Celestia (5, Informative)

Slashdiddly (917720) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786640)

The best way to enjoy NASA's blue marble is through Celestia [shatters.net] .

Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is (5, Informative)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786680)

The creators call Celestia a "free space simulation" that lets you explore the Universe in 3D.

It runs on all platforms including my favourite, Linux.

"Unlike most planetarium software, Celestia doesn't confine you to the surface of the Earth. You can travel throughout the solar system, to any of over 100,000 stars, or even beyond the galaxy. All movement in Celestia is seamless; the exponential zoom feature lets you explore space across a huge range of scales, from galaxy clusters down to spacecraft only a few meters across. A 'point-and-goto' interface makes it simple to navigate through the universe to the object you want to visit. Celestia is expandable. Celestia comes with a large catalog of stars, planets, moons, asteroids, comets, and spacecraft. If that's not enough, you can download dozens of easy to install add-ons with more objects."

Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is (4, Funny)

glwtta (532858) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787436)

I'm not getting it: there's no enemy space craft to shoot, no asteroids to mine... my ship doesn't even seem to have any laser beams, or photon torpedoes, or plasma gatlin guns - nothing!

How are you supposed to play this?

Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787771)

Prepare for ramming speed!

Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is (0)

RexRhino (769423) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787932)

It is your crappy graphics card. Log on to tigerdirect.com for great deals on graphics cards, and much much more! Tell them AFFILIATE_2984274 sent you!

Re:Clarification, or what CELESTIA actually is (1)

Citizen of Earth (569446) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787466)

../celutil/resmanager.h: In member function 'typename T::ResourceType* ResourceManager::find(ResourceHandle) [with T = ModelInfo]':
body.cpp:575: instantiated from here ../celutil/resmanager.h:108: error: dependent-name 'std::map, std::allocator >,typename T::ResourceType*,std::less, std::allocator > >,std::allocator, std::allocator >, typename T::ResourceType*> > >::value_type' is parsed as a non-type, but instantiation yields a type ../celutil/resmanager.h:108: note: say 'typename std::map, std::allocator >,typename T::ResourceType*,std::less, std::allocator > >,std::allocator, std::allocator >, typename T::ResourceType*> > >::value_type' if a type is meant
make[3]: *** [body.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/csbruce/celestia-1.3.2/src/celengine'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/csbruce/celestia-1.3.2/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/csbruce/celestia-1.3.2'
make: *** [all] Error 2

I hope... (1)

game kid (805301) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786720)

...it'll inspire Chris Laurel to work on it again. Fellow makers Dr. Fridger Schrempp and "Toti" have been left largely on their own with the code these days, it seems. [shatters.net] It's amazing in any case, and I doubt it'll need any work from Chris for me (or anyone else) to have the new (if at all different) Blue Marble on Celestia.

Re:Celestia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786924)

But how? I don't see any connection between the two.

Re:Celestia (0, Offtopic)

slonkak (648358) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787376)

I know this isn't the place to ask, but I would really appreciate if anyone out there who has gotten celestia to work could make an inclusive rpm, no dependencies. I am all for tinkering with software installs on linux (core 3) and trying to get this stuff to work, but for some reason i'm not feelin it tonight.

NASA Linux (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786646)

Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare.

Take installation. Linux zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do apt-get install package or emerge package": Yes, because typing in "apt-get" or "emerge" makes so much more sense to new users than double-clicking an icon that says "setup".

Linux zealots are far too forgiving when judging the difficultly of Linux configuration issues and far too harsh when judging the difficulty of Windows configuration issues. Example comments:

User: "How do I get Quake 3 to run in Linux?"
Zealot: "Oh that's easy! If you have Redhat, you have to download quake_3_rh_8_i686_010203_glibc.bin, then do chmod +x on the file. Then you have to su to root, make sure you type export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 but ONLY if you have that latest libc6 installed. If you don't, don't set that environment variable or the installer will dump core. Before you run the installer, make sure you have the GL drivers for X installed. Get them at [some obscure web address], chmod +x the binary, then run it, but make sure you have at least 10MB free in /tmp or the installer will dump core. After the installer is done, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config and add a section called "GL" and put "driver nv" in it. Make sure you have the latest version of X and Linux kernel 2.6 or else X will segfault when you start. OK, run the Quake 3 installer and make sure you set the proper group and setuid permissions on quake3.bin. If you want sound, look here [link to another obscure web site], which is a short HOWTO on how to get sound in Quake 3. That's all there is to it!"

User: "How do I get Quake 3 to run in Windows?"
Zealot: "Oh God, I had to install Quake 3 in Windoze for some lamer friend of mine! God, what a fucking mess! I put in the CD and it took about 3 minutes to copy everything, and then I had to reboot the fucking computer! Jesus Christ! What a retarded operating system!"

So, I guess the point I'm trying to make is that what seems easy and natural to Linux geeks is definitely not what regular people consider easy and natural. Hence, the preference towards Windows.

Re:NASA Linux (2, Funny)

ethanrider (129483) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787252)

Linux is *not* user friendly, and until it is linux will stay with >1% marketshare.

Let see

5% > 1%

50% > 1%

99% > 15

Works for me.

If > and confuse you just remember:
the alligator is hungry so the mouth opens towards the bigger meal.

Re:NASA Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787486)

Yeah, and shift keys are right below Caps Lock and Enter.

mirror (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786652)

here [alaska.edu]

Re:mirror (1)

Brandon K (888791) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786742)

Because we really couldn't see that in the original post's text. ;)

Another mirror (1)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786778)


here [rapidcityjournal.com]

Had to do it ;)

Re:mirror (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786780)

Oh, great! We only have a couple fiber links from Alaska to Seattle as it is, and now slashdot is going to use all the bandwidth.

The best troll song ever! (1, Funny)

Psychor (603391) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786657)

It was so good I couldn't bring myself to post it anonymously :(

"The problem's all inside your head", she said to me
The crap filter is annoying, I agree
You can defeat it if you do it logically
There must be fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

She said it's not really my habit to intrude
The sensationalist titles are often misconstrued
The editors' spelling may be somewhat crude
There must be fifty ways to troll on Slashdot
Fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

Mods are on crack, Jack
Repost spam, Sam
GNAA, Ray
Just set yourself free
Get a first post, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Hit the refresh key, Lee
And get yourself free

Goatse.cx Tex,
Widen the page, Dave
Stephen King's dead, Fred
Just set yourself free
Change the article text, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
BSD's dead, Lee
Just get yourself free

Although it grieves me to see Zonk in so much pain
I post "I fail it!" and then start to smile again
Netcraft confirms that Wikipedia explains
About the fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

She said why don't we both karma whore tonight
Thinks about your breathing, you'll begin to see the light
She poured hot grits down herself and I know she was right
There must be fifty ways to troll on Slashdot
Fifty ways to troll on Slashdot

Is it whack, Jack
Viewing tubgirl, Earl
Mod up a flame, Shane
Just set yourself free
KDE sucks, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Referral link, Lee
Just set yourself free

Please don't use vulgarities on the site (1, Offtopic)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786723)



I browse while at work and would appreciate if I didn't have to view cursing and potty-talk on a web site for science/engineering professionals.

FUCK SHIT CUNT HELL ASS BITCH FUCK FUCK (1)

CmdrTaco (troll) (578383) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786779)

You're the typical target you dumb fuck.

Re:Please don't use vulgarities on the site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786885)

would appreciate if I didn't have to view cursing and potty-talk

Oh yeah, that'll get them to stop.

Re:Please don't use vulgarities on the site (1)

rock_climbing_guy (630276) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787024)

Welcome to slashdot, my friend. As you will soon see, there are thousands more posts like this one.

Re:Please don't use vulgarities on the site (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787379)

You must be new here.

Re:Please don't use vulgarities on the site (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787547)

Hey asshole,

Go take a fucking long walk of a short fucking pier, you pencil headed geek mother fucker.

With love, from Warren fucking New Jersey.

Re:The best troll song ever! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786990)

Beat man, that's real beat.

Earth First (4, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786663)

Earth First!

Slashdot Saturn [nasa.gov] later!

Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS (4, Informative)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786668)

I suggest a right-click of mouse and then Save As in the browser to save the above-linked images.

The files are huge and may be Slashdotted soon as well.

Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786727)

Gee thanks but there's just one problem, I don't have a RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS key.

Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS (3, Informative)

robsimmon (462689) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786876)

Yup, our server is having issues. Now I'm going to have to spend tomorrow pulling all the 5400 by 2700 and 21600 by 10800 pixel links off ...

In the meantime, http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/features/blue_mar ble.html [nasa.gov] has small samples.

Re:Tip for browsers -- RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS (2, Funny)

adam1234 (696497) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787567)

Dude, this is Slashdot. We're going to parse the URL list using a Perl script and then run wget -i on the resulting output, saving the files to the directory /usr/share/marble and using chmod to set appropriate permissions for our machine's users.

Right click save as. Pfft.

Nice pictures (2, Interesting)

Barkley44 (919010) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786695)

Reminds me of this great picture I was emailed a few years back http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmkempe/52260470/ [flickr.com]

Re:Nice pictures (2, Interesting)

cowscows (103644) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786853)

I once spent a good bit of time convincing someone that that was a conglomeration of many photos stitched together over time, and not one snapshot taken from the space station. And I though he was a smart guy, too. *sigh*

Re:Nice pictures (2, Funny)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787075)

Well the earth is flat...

Re:Nice pictures (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787236)

After watching the movie [nasa.gov] , I don't think it's a conglomeration of photos, but rather a computer-generated rendition of data gleaned from those photos. To me it looks like a rendition of elevation data, snow coverage, etc rather than photos. I'm going by the color of the water, and the effect of the atmosphere on the horizon... and why aren't there any cities at all?

The introductory paragraph [nasa.gov] says the movies are "a visualization of the dataset [] derived from imagery."

Re:Nice pictures (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787089)

That is one of my favorites too. I got a big map of that with my national geographic(the only timeless magazine in my opinion) a few months back.

Re:Nice pictures (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787478)

You're not fooling anyone, we all know you buy it for the saggy spear-chucker titties.

Re:Nice pictures (1)

dumllama (715921) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787564)

I remember that image. It took me a while to figure out why there was a small, bright island to the SW of Japan.

DMB seems somewhat appropriate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786709)

Nine planets round the sun
Only one does the sun embrace
Upon this watered one
So much we take for granted
So let us sleep outside tonight
Lay down in our mother's arms
For here we can rest safely

If green should slip to grey
But our hearts still bloody be
And if mountains crumble away
And the river dry
Would it stop the stepping feet

Take all that we can get
When it's done
Nobody left to bury here
Nobody left to dig the holes
And here we can rest safely

One sweet world
Around a star is spinning
One sweet world
And in her breath I'm swimming
And here we will rest in peace

Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786908)

actually, it doesn't seem appropriate. unless maybe you're sucking off a GNAA's member.

Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate (1)

YeEntrancemperium (869619) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787088)

Actually, given how we treat our Earth, this is more appropriate. Savage heat is searing Global warming has begun Mother Earth is reeling No protection from the sun Forest fires are raging While the rivers turn to ice Foolish man creating Mother Nature's cruel demise Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Winter turns to summer Then the seasons disappear No one needs a prophet To explain what's all too clear Oceans overflowing Islands drowning everywhere Leaders wouldn't admit it Now they're crying in despair Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Now rain shall wash away sad remains of man Cities once so proud will crumble into sand Buildings all collapse when all is done and said The guilty ones will die with the innocent... When the sun burns red

Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate (1)

technoextreme (885694) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787226)

Actually, given how we treat our Earth, this is more appropriate. Savage heat is searing Global warming has begun Mother Earth is reeling No protection from the sun Forest fires are raging While the rivers turn to ice Foolish man creating Mother Nature's cruel demise Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Winter turns to summer Then the seasons disappear No one needs a prophet To explain what's all too clear Oceans overflowing Islands drowning everywhere Leaders wouldn't admit it Now they're crying in despair Hailstorms, tornadoes Cold spells, untimely frosts Heat waves and blizzards Global death's the cost Face the end of time As we plunge headlong towards the day Can't deny the signs When the sun burns red The earth will turn From blue to gray Now rain shall wash away sad remains of man Cities once so proud will crumble into sand Buildings all collapse when all is done and said The guilty ones will die with the innocent... When the sun burns red
Giberish????? Remember puncuation is your friend. http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2004-11- 03 [penny-arcade.com]

Re:DMB seems somewhat appropriate (1)

YeEntrancemperium (869619) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787690)

Wow, you're cool. They were lyrics but apparently they didn't show correctly.

Dave Matthews Band because... (1)

TheStonepedo (885845) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787536)

no tree-huggers ever wrote folk songs about the Earth before Dave Matthews Band, and none will ever do so well.

Riiiiiiight.

mirror with my modem (4, Funny)

aarku (151823) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786726)

I set up a 386 to mirror the 22 gigs of data with my 56k modem connection right here [127.0.0.1] . Not too many at once, please

Sorry but I'm COOLER THAN YOU (4, Funny)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786753)

Those of us true uber-geeks have IPv6, where localhost is ::1.

So ha!

Re:mirror with my modem (4, Funny)

iphayd (170761) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786976)

You must be slashdotted too. I couldn't find the document, then when I did a portscan on you, there were too many security flaws to count.

Re:mirror with my modem (4, Funny)

the real darkskye (723822) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787028)

I had similar problems, but after a while I found an awesome porn stash!

Re:mirror with my modem (4, Funny)

Crunchie Frog (791929) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787297)

I had similar problems, but after a while I found an awesome porn stash!

Yeah same, and whaddaya know - the guy has the same 'tastes' as me! What are the chances of that?

Re:mirror with my modem (1)

Jon Abbott (723) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787446)

You're so lucky... A 386 *and* a 56K modem? Your parents must be rich.

Image size limits? (4, Interesting)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786736)

JPEG and many other file formats are limited to 65,535 pixels in any given dimension. The largest image in this dataset is 86,400 x 43,200. What file format are they going to use?

Re:Image size limits? (4, Funny)

Slashdiddly (917720) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786787)

What file format are they going to use?

The file name is world.200412.3x86400x43200.bin.gz

Clearly they went with the bin format :)

Re:Image size limits? (3, Informative)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786828)

The previous max res was split into 2 files that you could bring together. One JPEG for the western hemisphere, one for the eastern.

Re:Image size limits? (3, Interesting)

Azul (12241) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786938)

From their readme.pdf [alaska.edu] :

the global 500m composites stored in the world big directory are raw binary files with the dimensions 3 x 86400 x 43200 (channels x columns x rows); data type is unsigned byte, with no header. They can be used for direct file access by data processing software (e.g. for subsetting, web-streaming etc.)

Pretty raw, eh?

Re:Image size limits? (3, Informative)

Rootbear (9274) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787742)

I work in the vis studio that produced the animations and I can tell you that file formats are a big problem with images this size. We usually work in TIFF, and while the TIFF format has no specific resolution limits, it is effectively limited to 4GB per image due to the use of internal 32-bit offsets. The full Blue Marble NG data sets simply don't fit in common image formats. Work is being done on a "big TIFF" spec that includes 64-bit offsets and other improvements that will accomodate much larger images.

Jim Williams

Re:Image size limits? (1)

XenonOfArcticus (53312) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787776)

Lossless JPEG2000 [jpeg.org] would be an excellent choice for this.

Extensions. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786750)

"NASA even provided some animations. We and others have set up web, ftp and rsync mirrors; let the Torrents begin!"

The WHAT's again?

Extensions.-Links. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787106)

To the fool that modded the above offtopic. Didn't you notice there's NO torrent link. I swear this place gets stupider every year.

Re:Extensions.-Links. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787189)

yea, starting with you. stupider isn't a word, stupid!

TFIRSmT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786791)

resound as fitting bbeN many, not the

NASA World Wind (5, Informative)

Llynix (586718) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786799)

NASA's open source world viewer project World Wind [nasa.gov] will have support for next generation Blue Marble on the 20th. In fact developers today got the beta xml with coverage of all thirty six new blue marble layers.

Re:NASA World Wind (1)

Pad-Lok (831143) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787015)

Too bad World Wind is Windows only at the moment. WW2D [berlios.de] should run on most Java capable systems, but it doesnt have the same coolnes factor.

Re:NASA World Wind (1)

Llynix (586718) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787861)

All right, Nowak at World Wind Central [worldwindcentral.com] has mirrored and created an add-on for NASA's World Wind [nasa.gov] . You can now easily view the entire next generation blue marble sets on any windows machine.

Please consider donating [worldwindcentral.com] so we can continue to provide quality services like this.

To use simply download the client [worldwindcentral.com] and the add-on [worldwindcentral.com] .

how very appropriate... (2, Funny)

gargletheape (894880) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786809)

a slashdot story about blue balls we're very attached to

I'd like to send this (-1, Flamebait)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786864)

To every self-absorbed, egotistical asshole I know (George Bush, etc.) with a note that says:
YOU ARE HERE

Re:I'd like to send this (1)

squidsoup (145936) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786887)

well, I hope they have fast internet connections.

I personally have always found multi-gigabyte emails kinda annoying.

Re:I'd like to send this (1)

Fryed (205364) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786945)

A Hitchhiker's guide reference [wikipedia.org] , and an anti-Bush message, all in one post? Mr. Adams would have been proud.

Re:I'd like to send this (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787325)

Please do not speak to me, as I'm obviously posting "troll" and "flamebait" messages, simply using a quintessential specimen like George Bush as an example of a "self-absorbed, egotistical asshole".
The moderators are correct: these people do no need, nay, do not care about the whole "you are here" thing.

Re:I'd like to send this (1)

Dante Shamest (813622) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786947)

Takes one to know one.

Re:I'd like to send this (1)

cnkurzke (920042) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786949)

... whats all that bullshit with marbles??

didnt you kids listen in school?
the world is FLAT!!!

everything else is pure evil and those images are made right by the devil!!

Re:I'd like to send this (3, Funny)

ikkonoishi (674762) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787295)

Umm the images clearly show that the world is in fact flat. These new fangled "globes" that you see in places of "science" actually compress the north and south edges of the world in order to fit the world map on a sphere.

Re:I'd like to send this (1)

prichardson (603676) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787860)

Congrats on getting an interesting mod for that one. My hat is off to you and your clearly FUNNY post.

Impressive... (3, Funny)

sanx (696287) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786922)

We've /.ed an entire planet.

Re:Impressive... (3, Informative)

gbnewby (74175) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787169)

For the geeks: Yes, I'm tuning the Apache server a bit during the /.'ing. Sorry for people who get dropped connections while I do this. I decided to upgrade to the Apache 2.1.8 beta for large file support & a few other features. The server is from ASA Servers, and has three 1.7TB SATA RAID arrays on Western Digital 250GB drives, with dual 2.8Ghz Xeon processors and 12GB of RAM. It's running SuSE 9.1. I put the FTP copy (vsftpd) on one array, and the http + rsync copy on another array. This is a pretty hefty server, but I've been changing tuning (xinetd, vsftpd, httpd and some kernel stuff) in response to traffic to try to keep it handling things. It's lots of fun, and reminds me of my close days with iBiblio [ibiblio.org] , which was a frequent slashdot target.

Torrents (2, Informative)

mjbkinx (800231) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787924)

FYI: The tracker doesn't seem to be able to handle it -- also, the torrent for the BIG one from November is missing in the directory [alaska.edu] .

Anyway, thanks for making this available and for all the bandwidth :)

America Sux! Boo NASA ... oooohhh free space pics (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13786930)

Bunch of hypocrits! You blast America and NASA all week, then leech the fruits of their work??

Another mirror (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786933)

Here's another mirror. There's a really big map, and a wallpaper that I made for personal use. http://eightyford.com/archives/126/ [eightyford.com]

EarthSLOT (4, Informative)

gbnewby (74175) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786954)

I forgot to mention in the posting: there are several neat
fly-over navigation programs that can use these images. One
with a tie to the U. Alaska is EarthSLOT [earthslot.org] .
The mirror links include an "earthslot" subdirectory, where
ready-made flyover files are available. Unfortunately,
EarthSLOT is Windows-centric :(

Re:EarthSLOT (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787286)

The University of Alaska has another "fly-over navigation program" called Swath Viewer - http://sv.gina.alaska.edu/ [alaska.edu] . It is a java applet and reasonably friendly to the non Windows-centric world. It does not have the new Blue Marble dataset in it yet, but does have original Blue Marble.

blue marble (1)

Bastard of Subhumani (827601) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786963)

The world's a big blue marble when you see it from up there
The sun and moon declare - our beauty's very rare!

Forgot the rest, it was from some lame kids' show.

Torrent toast? (1)

XenonOfArcticus (53312) | more than 8 years ago | (#13786982)

I didn't think you could /. a Torrent, but the tracker is refusing my connections.

Pull the ftp and http access to the actual files, and leave just the torrents and tracker -- make people HELP you distribute the data, not just plow your server into a smoking heap hot enough to melt any nearby glaciers.

http://geotorrent.org/ [geotorrent.org] would probably be a good cohort too.

Re:Torrent toast? (1)

robsimmon (462689) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787054)

Good idea, but we couldn't get the Goddard network admins to give us a port waiver for BitTorrent.

Re:Torrent toast? (1)

XenonOfArcticus (53312) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787265)

UAlaska is doing BitTorrent, but the tracker is unreachable, I'd guess because all of the other traffic is blitzing it. I was recommending they unplug the other traffic and let the torrent do the work.

Oblig. Karma Whore (2)

grape jelly (193168) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787003)

Since the given mirrors are slashdotted, here's the obligatory corel cache link:

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov.nyud.net:8090/New sroom/BlueMarble/ [nyud.net]

Firefox can't find the server at earthobservatory. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787283)

great cache, good job nobody relys on it

next generation... (0, Redundant)

MMHere (145618) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787004)

...server, is what they need. cuz this one is dying.

Mirros?

Pretty... (1)

eric_foxx (838112) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787072)

When I was a kid, I had a wall-wide mural of Earthrise as seen from the moon. To this day, it is one of the most beautiful photographs I have ever seen. Stuff like this always astounds me. We have spaceships! Someone took a picture of that! How cool! Earth Rocks!

Photoshop capable? (1)

NMerriam (15122) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787078)

Has anyone downloaded the "big" (non-tiled) raw dataset yet to comment on whether it is accessible through normal image-editing software? Photoshop (and presumably the Gimp) can open raw image data, but whether this particular file woks (and what settings it requires) don't seem to be mentioned anywhere.

I'd love to wallpaper my office with this image (I have a large 40"x50" version of an earlier 20k x 20k image currently) and would like to do all my adjustments on the original 500m file, then tile it to my own needs.

Re:Photoshop capable? (4, Informative)

XenonOfArcticus (53312) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787204)

Photoshop: Open As, Raw, select the file, fill in the X and Y dimensions. Number of channels is 3, 0 bytes header. I haven't been able to get one of the files yet, so I can't tell you if you need to turn on interleaved or not, but I suspect you will want interleaved.

We (3D Nature) packaged up the old BlueMarble data, along with 1Km terrain data for the whole earth (GTOPO30) on a product called Ultimate Earth [3dnature.com] for our landscape visualization software, Visual Nature Studio [3dnature.com] . It's pretty cool to be able to pull up an area, add your own data to what we provide, and have a ready-made planet visualization.

Re:Photoshop capable? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787434)

Xenon! Sweet to see you on here, I still remember 2001 Peaceful Valley, or was it Plesant Valley, I forget.

Anyway, the BIN files are BIP. But I don't think Photoshop can open them, I believe PS has a 29,999x29,999 size limitation (of course I do not have the latest version, so it may have changed).

Re:Photoshop capable? (1)

NMerriam (15122) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787508)

Photoshop CS2 can work with files up to 300k x 300k now! It's great, but of course few file formats support that size. Raw files, TIFF, and the new PSB (Photoshop large document format) do, thanks for mentioning it though since I looked it up in the help file -- I worried for a minute that it might not open a raw file of that size.

3 more hours until the file is finished downloading for me, I'll post here to let folks know if it works :)

Obligatory POV-RAY (2, Interesting)

AFairlyNormalPerson (721898) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787108)

How could someone post a giant, hires image of the earth and NOT post an obligatory pov-ray "Earth marble" in space?!


// GENERATE WITH
// povray +W640 +H480 +A0.3 -J +Q11 +R6
#include "textures.inc"
camera {location 8 look_at 0}
light_source { -50 color rgb 1 }
light_source { 50 color rgb 1 }
sphere
{ 0, 4.5 pigment {image_map {
jpeg "world.topo.bathy.200405.3x5400x2700.jpg"
map_type 1 interpolate 2 } }
finish {ambient 0.4 diffuse 1 specular 0} }
sphere {
0,1 texture { Starfield scale 1} scale 200
no_shadow hollow on }

Re:Obligatory POV-RAY (1)

robsimmon (462689) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787179)

'cause I use Electric Image [eitechnologygroup.com] ? (and the render is halfway down the page)

no wonder NASA needs a huge budget (1)

Mastadex (576985) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787450)

no wonder NASA needs billions, we keep slashdotting thier servers and driving thier ISP costs through the roof. thats not to mention all those server they have to replace from unexplained fires.

Video cards (1)

mattr (78516) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787487)

This is the best reason yet to get a faster computer with a nice video card. It would be nice if someone had a wiki for linux people to mention their experiences. Seems many cards get glitches in zooming. See WorldWind video card page [worldwindcentral.com] (for windows but maybe same issues on other linux software when zooming this data?) Speaking of which if anyone has a recommendation for a distro / windowmanager / xserver / video card / machine configuration for this type of thing now would be a good time! I remember when SGI used to sell a souped up PC for large dataset visualization (not that it sold I think..). My guess would be a motherboard with huge internal bandwidth and I/O, some big SATA drives, a couple gigs of RAM, and the latest video card by (who?)..

put that in google maps:-D (1)

EMR (13768) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787621)

Having that data in a google maps like interface would be a really nice way to navigate it.

Deforestation?!?! (-1, Troll)

johnthorensen (539527) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787713)

OK, the first thing that pops out at me when I look at this is the fact that a lot of the world is green. Even in places where you expect "urban deforestation", i.e. New York, it's pretty much all green. Looking down at Brazil, etc...green. This isn't necessarily to say that deforestation isn't happening, but Blue Marble ought to be a wake-up call for those that get worked up as a result of all the hype and scary newspeak that makes people think that Earth is practically balding.

TFW file for Blue Marble Next Generation (3, Informative)

Rahga (13479) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787754)

Assuming there is or will be a 86400x43200 TIF of JPEG file, you can use a TFW of JFW file that reads like this in your favorite GIS app:

0.00416666666666
0.00000000000000
0.00000000000000
-0.00416666666666
-180.00000000000000
90.00000000000000

I've got a bundle of these from the last Blue Marble at this page [rahga.com] .

I do work for Mud Springs Geographers [mudsprings.com] , which have an app called AWhere that support loading this sort of image as a map layer. I'm not into crass commercialism, but unfortunately, Slashdot won't let me post just that TFW because of the lameness filter. You'd think they would make excpetions for anciend user ids or excellent karma, but no..... :)

(Okay, I've removed the whitespace from the snippet above, but keep in mind that most TFW files have the decimal point positioned 20 spaces from the left edge.)

this photo is depressing! (1)

burden123 (535350) | more than 8 years ago | (#13787867)

I was about to say this:

The northern hemisphere is obviously deep in the winter as the snow line during summer is about 500-1000 miles more north of where it shows in this picture in North America anyway. It would be great if they could use another year to capture the whole thing in summer.

When i realized this:

Such a thing is impossible! I'm sure the sad fact is that during summer North America is covered in a thick vale of pollution. Blue earth my ass.

What are "Torrents" ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13787912)

Does this mean a lot of people are going to visit the NASA site so it will be offline?
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