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Microsoft Helping Nigeria Fight Scammers

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the keep-my-inbox-clean dept.

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encodics writes "News.com is carrying a story today about how Nigeria is asking Microsoft for help in fighting scammers." From the article: "Microsoft will provide technical expertise, training and other security resources to Nigeria's Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), which is tasked with fighting cybercrime in the country. Nigeria was initially slow to respond to the problem of '419' e-mail scammers operating in the country, who were duping unsuspecting Internet users out of thousands of pounds by promising a share of the secret multimillion-pound fortune of a deposed African dictator. "

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This just in - Copy of letter sent to Bill Gates (2, Funny)

coastin (780654) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792833)

Allow me to introduce myself. I am Matubu Huntu Smith, my father was the head of "Nigeria's Economic and Financial Crimes Commission" until his untimely death. I am writing to implore you to assist me getting a large sum of money out of my country. We will need much security help to accomplish this and I am repaired to compensate you at a rate of 52% of the nearly twenty two million dollars my father was able to secure before his death.....

Re:This just in - Copy of letter sent to Bill Gate (-1, Offtopic)

thoughtcriminal87 (685816) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792979)

Explain to me how first post can possibly be marked 'redundant' ?

Re:This just in - Copy of letter sent to Bill Gate (1)

east coast (590680) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793048)

About as easily as posts I've had have been modded "overrated" even tho they were never modded. Oh well, I guess we have to accept it for what it is and hope that the meta-modders beat this type of abuse down...

Oh! That's right! We can't meta-mod an over or underrated post! I'm sure that loophole in mod abuse will be fixed real soon.

Re:This just in - Copy of letter sent to Bill Gate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793062)

Hah! Perhaps someone has gone on a redundancy spree. Even your post is "redundant". Perhaps mine will be too, unless I say the following, of which no-one has said ever before in the history of mankind:

Flippityfloppygloophintowhansignaskigflabbem!

DIR SIR OR MADAM (someone had to do it) (5, Funny)

Humba (112745) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792837)

Chairman tender
Board of nigerian
National petroleum
Coporation (n.n.p.c)
Tel:+234-80-33013920
Fax:+234-1-7597156

Dear:sir/madam,

I guess this letter may come to you as a surprise since i had no
Previous Correspondence with you. I am the chairman tender board of nigeria National Petroleum coporation (nnpc) i got your contact in the course of my Search For a reliable person with whom to handle a very confidential Transaction Involving the transfer of fund valued eight million two hundred Thousand United states dollars ($8.2m) to a safe foreign account.

The above fund in question is not connected with arms, drugs or money
Laundering. It is the product of over invoice on contract awarded in
2005 by nnpc, to Microsoft for providing technical expertise, training and other security resources to Nigeria's Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), which is tasked with fighting cybercrime in the country. The
Contract has long been executed and payment of the actual contract
Amount Made to the foreign contractor leaving the balance of $8.2m u.s
Dollars in A dormant account which my colleagues and i now want to transfer out of Nigeria into a reliable foreign account for our personal use.

--H

Re:DIR SIR OR MADAM (someone had to do it) (2, Informative)

k3s (920880) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792993)

Must see Fox Trot on point Nigerian Scam [ucomics.com]

419, Phone numbers screwing me up... (1)

gerf (532474) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793718)

My area code is 419... Seriously. So whenever I hear of a 419 scam, I get a completely different initial idea of what someone is talking about

Microsoft Helping Nigeria? (-1, Redundant)

kulakovich (580584) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792856)

Dear Mr. Gates,

My name is UMPENGI MATWATE, and I am the surviving son of DR BASWE MATWATE,
Minister of Interior, Department of Infarctions of Nigeria...

Pounds?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792866)

I wouldn't mind losing a few pounds myself... beats working out...

Re:Pounds?!? (2, Insightful)

VJ42 (860241) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793027)

Yes, you know, these: £££.

Re:Pounds?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793758)

What have French cursive L's got to do with it?

Scammers fighting scammers? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792867)

How appropriate.

Re:Scammers fighting scammers? (1)

joschm0 (858723) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793227)

No, it's more like spammers fighting scammers.

How many have fallen for these scams? (1)

TomRC (231027) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792871)

How many people have actually fallen for these scams? Are there statistics?

Statistics for 1997-2005 (5, Insightful)

ianscot (591483) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792974)

From the National Internet Fraud Watch [fraud.org] site, here are some:

According to those Nigerian money scams were 8% of the total, with an average of two-and-a-half grand lost per victim, in 2004.

(I can't say this group isn't overstating the problem to boost its own importance, but those are stats, anyway.)

Re:How many have fallen for these scams? (1)

gunpowda (825571) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792978)

An excellent question. This information is available on my MEGA MASTER MILLION NIGERIAN EMAIL SCAM STATISTICS PAGE to which I will offer FREE ACCESS to for a limited time only if you send USD 50 to the following address...

Re:How many have fallen for these scams? (1)

neologee (532218) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793005)

Check this [rica.net] out.
I recall reports of wealthy buisnessmen held in Nigeria by hostage takers.
I don't have the link on me.

Re:How many have fallen for these scams? (2, Interesting)

Rinnt (917105) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793117)

Anyone remember how a diplomat was murdered [wired.com] over these scams?

Whaddya mean, thousands? (4, Funny)

SysKoll (48967) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792872)

thousands of pounds by promising a share of the secret multimillion-pound fortune of a deposed African dictator.

Thousands? Only thousands? What a rip-off. My deposed dictator offered me $350 millions for only $500 of participation.

Above comment is a "Rip-Off" (1)

gerf (532474) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793803)

Please read today's "Zits" comic, available at Ucomics.com I believe.

//High-Fives Coastin and Humba !! (2, Interesting)

kulakovich (580584) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792875)

Damn I was too slow. I thought I had it all.

ok, blast me now for off topic so I can go home.

kulakovich

Isn't that a bit like (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792879)

asking McDonalds to solve a food shortage problem in Africa.

Re:Isn't that a bit like (1)

bigtrike (904535) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793188)

That's not such a bad idea actually. Most McDonald's foods have a very high calorie/weight and calorie/volume ratio. While producing meat is not extremely efficient energy wise, the shipping would be much cheaper. McDonald's also has years of experience in distributing food as cheaply as possible. It would only take a couple of menu items to provide sustenance. The average value meal contains more calories than the average Cuban eats in a day, and Cuba isn't anywhere near as bad off as most parts of Africa.

Re:Isn't that a bit like (2, Funny)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793559)

While producing meat is not extremely efficient energy wise

I don't know, it seems pretty energy efficient to me.

  1. Get cow
  2. Put cow in rough pasture
  3. Wait until cow is bigger
  4. Profit!


Of course if you do stupid stuff like pump cows full of drugs so they can digest whole grain (hint - they're ruminants, they're good at foliage, not cereals) then I suppose it is less efficient.

Re:Isn't that a bit like (1)

karnal (22275) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793598)

You forgot the part about needing a chainsaw.

You know. To kill the cow.

Re:Isn't that a bit like (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793692)

Actually, they use bolt guns for that.

Re:Isn't that a bit like (1)

ehiris (214677) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793458)

No, this is almost like asking SPAM [spam.com] to solve the food shortage in Africa.

Nigeria's a nice country ... (1)

FreeUser (11483) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792885)

Nigeria is a nice country. Be a shame if anything happened [slashdot.org] to it.

Fox, meet henhouse. Keep an eye on it, will ya?

- Bill

MS providing scammers free copies of MS Money (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792893)

In hopes that they will use it, significantly slowing down their ability to manage their ill-gotten gains.

Dear Mr. Gates (0, Redundant)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792897)

I am writing to acquire your assistance in recovering significant assets I have inherited from my uncle. Due to a recent coup, the funds are being held up by a bunch of internet scammers.

I am willing to pay you $50 million dollars to help me liberate these assets, please provide your banking information so I can wire you the funds.

Sincerely, Prince Babitobe Famisippi Olemeade

Dear Prince Olemeade (4, Funny)

Anonymous Writer (746272) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792973)

I am writing to acquire your assistance in recovering significant assets I have acquired from monopolistic business practices. Due to a recent antitrust lawsuit settlement, the funds are being held up by a bunch of government lawyers.

I am willing to pay you $50 million dollars to help me liberate these assets, please provide your banking information so I can wire you the funds.

Sincerely, Bill Gates

Helping... (3, Funny)

b1gk1tty (670514) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792898)

Doesn't seem to me that Nigeria needs help from M$ to scam Americans... Although MS has been doing it a lot longer...

Dear Microsoft (-1, Redundant)

true_majik (588374) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792899)

Dear Microsoft I am the prime minister of Nigeria. I am writing in hopes that you will assist us in squashing all the bad publicity of the "Nigerian Scams" by helping us thwat them out of existance. Doing so requires a lot of resouces, which is hte purpose of this letter. If you would like to contribute to our efforts, please reply to this email so that we can send you information on how you can wire funds to The Anti-Nigerian-Scam Organization. Thank you!

why microsoft? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792910)

They should enlist the swiss instead of microsoft to help these poor nigerian princes manage their money better.

Correct me if I'm wrong but... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792912)

Those unsuspecting internet users were basically robbed while attempting to commit a crime, were they not?

Everyone who got dupped should be procecuted for thier crimes not smothered with pity.

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793051)

Those unsuspecting internet users were basically robbed while attempting to commit a crime, were they not?

Everyone who got dupped should be procecuted for thier crimes not smothered with pity.



Exactly. The people that responded were hoping to get some of that ill-gotten wealth for themselves. No one that is truly honest will fall for a 419 scam. I admit, the victims were never going to see a dime of the money they were promised but there should be some type of punishment for them. They went into the deal knowing if it went through, they would be scamming the Nigerian government, International financial institutions and the people of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (whom the politicans stole the money from in the first place).

The victims do not deserve our sympathy, they should be laughed at and thrown in jail!!

Re:Correct me if I'm wrong but... (1)

hcob$ (766699) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793107)

I personally believe that calling someone a "419" should now be as commonplace as moron, idiot, mouth-breather, imbicile, fucktard, speedy, stupid, or pedro.

pedro?

yep, pedro... (sorry, had a varsity blues moment there).

Oh, and they should be fined an amount equivalent to the rest of their bank account.

where to apply??? (0, Troll)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792924)

a share of the secret multimillion-pound fortune of a deposed African dictator.

where can i apply for my share in tihs secret fortune?? it sounds superk00l!! FREE GMAIL invites to all teh PEEPZ who answer my q!!!111!!1

Dictator? (2, Funny)

Otonotachibana (826415) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792925)

Dictator? She told me she was an african princess! I feel so used...

Re:Dictator? (1)

ChocoBean (890202) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793039)

at least all you lost was money, right?

RIGHT???!!!

scam?? I call this American TV (1)

0110011001110101 (881374) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792926)

duping unsuspecting Internet users out of thousands of pounds

Here in America we call this "The Biggest Loser", and the producers of this show are raking it in!! People are losing pounds left and right without the Sultan of UmmPapaMowMow...

Crazy foreign spam! (1)

Morgalyn (605015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792939)

I recently got my first Nigerian scam emails ever in my GMail account recently. I saved it, because it amused me. How it managed to get there is unamusing, but at least it was autofiltered to spam.

On the topic of amusing spam, has anyone ever gotten Hare Krishna spam? I did, once. I actually did some Google'rch to figure out what the hell it was. I kept it, too, because it makes me happy (coincidentally) for no apparent reason:
From: Neateye Reply-To: Neateye To: --------------------- Date: May 6, 2005 2:13 AM Subject: Gouranga Call out Gouranga be happy!!! Gouranga Gouranga Gouranga .... That which brings the highest happiness!!

Re:Crazy foreign spam! (1)

Morgalyn (605015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792969)

GAHHH! I hit submit instead of preview. Here's a fixed format on that email, SORRY EVERYONE. On an unrelated note, anyone have any idea why the pre tag isn't allowable HTML for comments?

From: Neateye
Reply-To: Neateye
To: ---
Date: May 6, 2005 2:13 AM
Subject: Gouranga

Call out Gouranga be happy!!!
Gouranga Gouranga Gouranga ....
That which brings the highest happiness!!

Re:Crazy foreign spam! (1)

hcob$ (766699) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793137)

Yeah, I got that once... Funny, the only time I'd ever seen it was in my GMail acount.

I think the article meat to say... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792954)

Microsoft helps Nigeria oppress scammers with their software.

Oh sheesh! (0, Redundant)

maynard (3337) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792956)

You mean I'm not going to get my reward after all!?!? *smacks forehead*

Oh no! (1)

porcupine8 (816071) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792966)

Does this mean they'll have to forfeit their Ig Nobel [improb.com] ?

Re:Oh no! (1)

ethx1 (532391) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793125)

Does this mean they'll have to forfeit their Ig Nobel?

My goodness, the two aren't even remotely related. The poor country finally has some good press and you come and associate it with the scammers. Tsk, tsk!

What about the money? (1)

Poromenos1 (830658) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792967)

Where does the money they confiscate from them go? Isn't it enough to buy the technology to fight them?

The REAL letter... (3, Funny)

kulakovich (580584) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792968)

1835 73rd Ave NE
Medina, WA 98039
USA


Dear President Obasanjo,

My name is WILLIAM HENRY GATES III, and I am President of the Microsoft Corporation...

Well look at the bright side... (3, Funny)

Yonder Way (603108) | more than 8 years ago | (#13792987)

Nigeria was initially slow to respond to the problem of '419' e-mail scammers operating in the country, who were duping unsuspecting Internet users out of thousands of pounds by promising a share of the secret multimillion-pound fortune of a deposed African dictator.

At least they are combating the obesity epidemic.

Re:Well look at the bright side... (1)

Wilson_6500 (896824) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793459)

OK, why Insightful? They mean pound as in bling. This is funny if anything.

After all, I sure as hell wouldn't want a share of some dictator's multimillion pound fortune if it were pounds of human flesh or something.

Letter to nigerians from M$ (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13792999)

Dear Nigerian Scammers,

It has come to our attention that you are using Linux machines to send emails to all your "investors". You may or may not have heard, but Linux is completely unstable and prone to frequent crashing, bad drivers, and general malaise. I would like to propose an initial offering of 100 copies of our much superior OS. If you can provide your bank account routing numbers, we would be happy to draft your account for each copy of the OS, as well as each time we need to upgrade it, to thawrt off those pesky viruses (Linux does not do this for you, but instead requires lengthy downloads and pesky manual installations). Once in place, your nigerian scam emails will be sent out blazingly faster, and we will share 52% of the earnings this creates with you (over 100 BILLION dollars from our tests). Please do not google for BSOD, M$ sucks, or anything similar, as it will impede our ability to help you out with this offer.

Yours truly,

Bill

Nigeria should be careful (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793006)

Nigeria should tread carefully with Microsoft. Otherwise, they (Nigerians) will be locked into Microsoft's proprietary hold - for good!

On the other hand, I suppose if Nigeria wanted to fight these scammers, they would have used a fraction of their oil profits to hire some OSS developers who I strongly believe, would deliver strong software and technical advice to fight these scammers.

Re:Nigeria should be careful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793401)

On the other hand, I suppose if Nigeria wanted to fight these scammers, they would have used a fraction of their oil profits to hire some OSS developers who I strongly believe, would deliver strong software and technical advice to fight these scammers.

In Nigeria, OSS is fairly non existent. It's pirated MS software from Asian countries (not placing blame on anyone here) that floods the marketplace. Think about it, everyone in the world has heard of Microsoft and Bill Gates, the richest man in the world but honestly ask your non geek friends if they have heard of Linus Torvalds. Or how about Eric S. Raymond, or Richard Stallman. It's the same out there. They have heard of Microsoft but that's it.

As I read the rhythm & lyrics jumped into my h (1)

Quirk (36086) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793014)

"Microsoft will provide technical expertise, training and other security resources to Nigeria's Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), which is tasked with fighting cybercrime in the country"

Microsoft security resources and 419 email scammers go together.

Try, try, try to separate them
It's an illusion
Try, try, try, and you will only come
To this conclusion

Love and marriage, 419 scammers and MS security
Go together like a horse and carriage
...

Let's do this right... (2, Funny)

pieterh (196118) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793021)

To the CHAIRMAN of MICROSOFT CORPORATION

Dear MR or MISS CHAIRMAN,

I am OLUSEGUN OBASANJO, the current president of Nigeria, a country in West Africa. I have been referred
to you after Conducting Enquiries, and I hope you treat this contact as a sincere and confidential message
from a friend. Contacts through the Internet have become difficult, with many scammers and tricky boys.

It recently came to my notice that my predecessor, General SANI ABACHA, who is still in good heart and
health, despite my daily visits to the leopard fetish, left a large number of TOP QUALITY SCAMMERS alive
and well in the country of Nigeria, especially concentrated in two regions: Lagos, and Port Harcourt,
thanks to the presence of many internet cafes in those regions.

These scammers, also known as "419 boyos", present me, and my present regime, with a problem. We cannot
ship them out of the country legally, since the very presence of such a mass of scammers in any single
plane or aiport lounge would cause the substance and material of the local internet to collapse, not
to mention the local economy, which would surely be drained of all resources as the boyos did their work.

I am actually contacting you because I have understood that Microsoft has certain problems that we may
be able to resolve in a beneficial fashion.

My Minister for International Relations, Dr Shine-Shine BOBO, has overseen a series of tests. We have
compared the top-rated business development consultants from the USA, India, the UK (London), and the
Chinese Economic Development Zone. We found that the average time taken to sell a new license of Windows
VISTA to the average ITC manager was between two hours and five days, according to the economic incentives
offered, the availability of compromising photos of the aforementioned manager, and the presence or not of
on-site "sales assistants", most of whom previously worked as security personnel for Russian businessmen.

Next, Dr BOBO tested the skills of a group of 419 boyos, captured in a lighting raid by the Special
Business Improvement Task Force (Armed) last July in Benin city. We gave them the choice of selling
VISTA or being tortured with chili peppers (this has worked very well for tax collection, and the
Ministry of Finance has now a special Pepper Insertion unit, responsible for a 30% increase in tax
revenues since 2003!). Most chose VISTA, and the results were impressive!

Not only did 80% of managers agree to buy VISTA within 1.5 hours (as compared to 30% after three hours,
and 60% after two days), but these managers also agreed to pay an average of $150,000 per licensed seat.

Dear MR slash MISS CHAIRMAN. I do not need to mention that with virtual licensing, this could raise
as much as $600,000 per computer.

We are willing to provide you with our best 419 boyos in exchange for only 10% of this new and
exciting revenue stream.

Please contact me rapidly, my email address is obasanjo_olegun_the_second@gmail.com. If you are
serious in your intentions, I will invite you to Abuja to meet my wives.

BEST REGARDS

O. OBASANJO

The trouble with these scams is... (1, Flamebait)

pmike_bauer (763028) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793033)

These scams apparently work, otherwise they would be dead by now. The sad thing is that anyone in the West would be so greedy as to help some stranger transfer millions of dollars out of a cash-poor country such as Nigeria or Uganda.

Re:The trouble with these scams is... (1)

i_should_be_working (720372) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793785)

Interesting. I never thought about it that way. Puts the victims in a new light. And if someone were trying to funnel millions out of Germany or France the recipient of the email would probably call the authorities.

I also like how these scams take advantage of peoples' amazing ignorance of current events in African countries.

Scambait: 419eater.com (2, Insightful)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793046)

http://419eater.com/ [419eater.com]

Has info about scambaiters, kind of a funny effort. But the question must be asked, do 2 wrongs make a right?
article links from last year:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3887493.st m [bbc.co.uk]
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/13/164 2255&tid=133&tid=111 [slashdot.org]

Re:Scambait: 419eater.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793131)

Two wrongs help reduce the chance of a third. As long as scambaiters can occupy these scammers, there is less chance of the scammers hitting a real victim. Plus it makes for some hilarious reading and pictures.

Re:Scambait: 419eater.com (1)

HappyDrgn (142428) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793269)

Does asking them to send money to a not-for-profit charity count as wrong?

Re:Scambait: 419eater.com (1)

misleb (129952) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793357)

What's wrong with wasting a scammer's time?

-matthew

huh? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793054)

I work for the Microsoft.

So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.

Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

But trust me.... You don't.

I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about.

This is how bad info gets passed around.

If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do.

Cuz some /.'ers belive anything they hear.

Re:huh? (1)

Reliant-1864 (530256) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793561)

What's funny is you can post this to any article on Microsoft, and it will be fully accurate and modded up as insightful. You can also replace Microsoft with something on topic in the article, and you have a reply that works anywhere

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793684)

what's also funny is he posted it as anonymous coward so he could give a fuck about mod points.

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793768)

I got 2 for being insightfull-- despite this being a Fark cliche. It works in almost any topic.

*kekeke*

Re:huh? (2, Funny)

swimmar132 (302744) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793676)

I see you work for the Microsoft. How's work at the Microsoft? Are you enjoying being part of the Microsoft?

Re:huh? (1)

ethx1 (532391) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793695)

I work for the Microsoft.


the Microsoft?!!
My God! You really call it that?!

Re:huh? (1)

Fizzl (209397) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793719)

At

Least

I

Can

Format

My

Posts

Re:huh? (1)

Fizzl (209397) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793802)

I was thinking about quoting some priceless snippets out of your posts, but decided I would had to quote all of it to give it justice. OTOH, You (the reader) can hit the parent button to figure out the context.

Anyway. Now even the standard monkeys are fleeing microsoft? Now they have to hire uneducated, illiterate, incoherent monkeys out of THE zoo?
(Yeah, I'm drunk and nasty as per usual when posting.)

Ya sure (1)

holden_t (444907) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793060)

They pitched in so well that I'm still getting these scams with MSN email addresses, just finished deleting one from jones_legalfirm@msn.com.

Don't buy it for a minute.

T.

MS05-$30,000,000 patch (1)

Skiron (735617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793069)

I dunno who is ripping who off here? WTF does MS care about it? Naff all, the same they care about any other spammer (unless, of course, the world adopts _their_ closed source, licensed, and patented anti-spam design, designed to run the internet mail base).

Wait... (1)

misleb (129952) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793070)

You mean the Nigerian scams are ACTUALLY coming from Nigeria? I thought the whole thing was completely made up buy some losers in Florida or something. Well, it is good to know that the scammers were at least honest about their nationality. Go figure.

-matthew

Re:Wait... (1)

southpolesammy (150094) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793409)

I had thought the same thing...my understanding was that Nigeria was a front for organized crime from around the world. Nigeria themselves just plays a part as a remote location with little protection should one be stupid enough to travel there to "collect" the carrot being dangled in front of them -- sort of like, "Now, that you're here, good luck getting out. But I can help you for, say, the sum of $10,000..."

Yeah, they're from Nigeria all right (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793427)

My father, a CEO, has been getting these kinds of letters in the mail for decades now. Funny how they decided using email was cheaper - and quit sending it using snail mail. They have however moved to other countries in Africa
- to avoid the obvious link to Nigeria. Some of them now live in the Netherlands, where they invite people to meet them. "Bring the money along with you!". It amazes me that people still don't know about them - and even more that idiots actually [still] fall for it!

Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793072)

You mean they REALLY were from Nigeria?

oh the irony... (1)

namekuseijin (604504) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793079)

ask a scammer to stop another scammer...

i feel no pity for their victims (1)

hsmith (818216) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793080)

i mean, anyone who thinks this is legit is too stupid to have the money they are going to lose in the first place. when will people figure out that getting rich is not as easy as responding to an email.

Great idea (1)

marlinSpike (894812) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793086)

Just give them free versions of Windows. They'll be so inundated by viruses and IE exploits that their computers will be rendered unusable and thus they won't be spamming anymore!
Why didn't anyone think of this before?!

Re:Great idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793597)

HA HA HA this is sooooo funny. You are cool. You said what we were all thinking. Its funny because Micro$oft makes windows and ie which have virus problems. hahahahahahaha.

Set a thief to catch a thief (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793096)

Why use Microsoft? Use someone who's proven himself against the 419ers. Like the scambaiter who actually took the scammers from a ride and made $250 out of them: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/06/18/pc_builder _takes_419ers/ [theregister.co.uk] It's a small start.

Interesting and funny read (2, Interesting)

Failover (717956) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793101)

I came across this on a forum dedicated to exposing 419 scams a few months back, and though it's not one of those emails promising riches (it's an eBay scam), it's still relevant. It's extremely funny, but it also shows the lengths to which they will go to get your money, including threats. http://www.thescambaiter.com/forum/showthread.php? t=109 [thescambaiter.com]

Could be either! (1)

phuked (675016) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793121)

If they succeed, I'll sure miss the lads of lagos [scamorama.com] . But this might also mean that nigerian scam could be distributed through Windows Update!1

I got an email (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793132)

Dear Nigerian resident,

Request for urgent business relationship!

I am a top official at a major American software manufacturer who is interested in exportation of our goods into your fine country. We need to move several shiploads of our product into your nation, and are willing to cut you a generous percentage of the profits. Please respond as soon as possible.

You bestest pal,
Billy Gates

And so on...

Not sure when my citizenship switched to Nigera.

Probably the same night I got that tattoo.

On my ass.

They asked Microsoft first.... (4, Interesting)

WoodstockJeff (568111) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793261)

... because most of the ones we've received in the past few months are sent by MSN/HOTMAIL users. While many actually used MSN.COM or HOTMAIL.COM accounts, Microsoft has a few hundred "vanity domains", for which there is no accountability whatsoever - attempts to report the spam get bounced, because there is no "abuse@" for these domains, and abuse@hotmail.com will only accept reports of hotmail.com accounts, just as abuse@msn.com will only accept them for msn.com accounts.

It's a nifty little scheme - use one of the vanity domains, and you can send spam for months. The mail is delivered through HOTMAIL.COM servers, so blocking by IP doesn't work. Unless, of course, you are willing to take the colateral damage of blocking all HOTMAIL and MSN customers.

Which, it turns out, might not be much real damage at all...

Re:They asked Microsoft first.... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793479)

While many actually used MSN.COM or HOTMAIL.COM accounts, Microsoft has a few hundred "vanity domains", for which there is no accountability whatsoever

Got a list?

Re:They asked Microsoft first.... (2, Interesting)

bani (467531) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793537)

but wait! it gets even better.

microsoft is running a SPAMFILTER on their abuse@hotmail.com account!

that's right. if your complaint isn't bounced with:
Unfortunately, we cannot take action on the mail you sent us because it does not reference a Hotmail account.
then your complaints get bounced with:
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
abuse@css.one.microsoft.com
    (reason: 550 5.7.1 <Your e-mail was rejected by an anti-spam content filter on gateway
(131.107.3.125).Reason...uage, graphics, or spam-like characteristics. Removing these may let the e-mail
through the filter.>)
i think this is a great example of what's wrong with microsoft in general.

Isn't it obvious? (1)

RedNovember (887384) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793282)

No wonder Microsoft has such bad security if they believe scams like this...

Then again, maybe they're finally running out of FUD and need more money to buy some from the GOP...

right after Google joining forces with Sun Micro.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793416)

M$ joins forces with Nigeria!
WoW!!!!

Counting the number of morons: (2, Funny)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793661)

When does scamming have to do with Microsoft Windows XP?

How about starting with Hotmail, Microsoft? (1)

bgalbrecht (920100) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793675)

About 40% of the Nigerian scam emails that get past my greylists (but usually not Spam Assassin) go through Hotmail. If Microsoft is going to help Nigeria filter this at the source, then they should start with their own email service. I hardly see any scam email coming from either Yahoo! or GMail.

Get out that email tracker! (3, Funny)

hanshotfirst (851936) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793696)

I'll bet the Nigerians heard about that Email Tracking Program [about.com] Bill tested a few years ago. That would be really helpful in seeing who spammed and who got spammed along the way!

Clippy (1)

datasetgo (751392) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793702)

In a related story, Microsoft today announced it has installed a 150 meter tall version of Clippy, which can now be seen hovering over south-east Nigeria. No word yet if it is actually assisting with anti-spam efforts or continuing to ask "Can I help you make an outline?"

A nice and easy way to annoy spammers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13793767)

OpenBSD's spamd is easy to set up and supports greylisting. It is fun to annoy spammers with it: Annoying spammers with spamd [innerewut.de]

Duh! (1)

se7en11 (833841) | more than 8 years ago | (#13793844)

Duh! I would have thought MS would have been smarter than to fall for this. I mean if it only took me 2 times to realize a Nigerian price really doesn't get my money, then for sure the MS company should get it the first time...
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