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No Modification PSP TV Adapter

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the because-voiding-the-warranty-is-bad dept.

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Craig writes "PSP Owners have long been interested in watching the UMD films and playing games on the TV, well now according to a report from Lik Sang they can, the new PSPTV being produced eventually by Gametech will be a no modification addon. From the article: 'The TV Adapter for PSP lets you hook up your PSP to your home television (NTSC and PAL) via Composite or S-Video and Stereo connectors. This adapter requires no modification of your PSP console. This new peripheral takes a completely different approach and clips on top of your PSP screen, with two screws to fit at the back of the handheld (in these two holes you can see on the top of the UMD drive). Some sort of pyramid grows from the base, with a precision lens and mirror system at the top, capturing the image and light, in a similar way a scanner or camera would. It then converts it into a video signal that is sent through video leads going from the adapter to your TV set.'"

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and... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804543)

I bet its going to cost you a kidney too...

PSP TV Adapter (1)

W3BMAST3R101 (904060) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804549)

Now with more fun and less hassle.

Is it the 1st of April already? (2, Funny)

CountBrass (590228) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804564)

Surely this is a joke?

now all you need... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804552)

... is a TV that fits in your packet

anyone else (5, Insightful)

firl (907479) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804554)

think this is a horrible idea?

Covert it from the out put via capture to digital back to analog, just a couple conversions too many imo.

Re:anyone else (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804562)

I think it's more horrible that you think composite and s-video are digital formats.

Re:anyone else (1)

Cramer (69040) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805080)

No, they aren't. But thank you for playing.

Re:anyone else (4, Insightful)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804615)

"There's a sucker born every minute." - David Hannum

Someone will buy it.

Re:anyone else (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804958)

I believe that quote was P.T. Barnum, but I could be wrong.

Re:anyone else (2, Interesting)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805143)

I believe that quote was P.T. Barnum, but I could be wrong.

Yup, you are. One of those popular misconceptions. Though PT Barnum is related to the quote.
http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html [historybuff.com]

Re:anyone else (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804623)

I agree, this attachment is a waste of time and money! How the hell am I supposed to use it with Metal Gear Acid 2 [joystiq.com] ?

Re:anyone else (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804825)

Wait, are they serious? That think will be about as popular as the Virtual Boy, are they really insane enough to require it? Okay, it's Kojima but still.

Re:anyone else (4, Insightful)

TrappedByMyself (861094) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804645)

think this is a horrible idea?

Yeah, it will look like ass. And what the hell is the point of providing component and s-video support when the video is already trashed?

Re:anyone else (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804920)

component != composite
and s-video already sucks

Re:anyone else (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804647)

Somehow this keeps coming to mind:

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/images/howtoprint.jpg [ebaumsworld.com]

I know what this is like.. (2, Interesting)

CdBee (742846) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804724)

..Don't buy a printer! Just stick this flat-screen monitor in any photocopier and have one-click printing with no hassle !!!!

Re:anyone else (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805015)

think this is a horrible idea?

Not only horrible but a totally stupid idea.

I fully expect that Sony will be putting out DVD / UMD combo players soon enough, but using some kind of Heath Robinson device for capturing your screen via a series of mirrors, lenses and a camera, is quite frankly, fucking stupid by a long margin.

It would be nice to see a PSP with some kind of expansion port, but this kind of thing really is ridiculous. Chances are the quality is on par with your average bootleg cinema-to-camcorder movie.

Hahahah. (4, Insightful)

Seumas (6865) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804558)

If you paid $20 for content on UMD so you could watch it on a tiny little screen, you deserve to be shot. Spending $20+ on a full sized DVD that you can watch on your widescreen television once or twice in your life is absurd enough, much less this PSP UMD nonsense. But it just proves, people will buy anything!

UMD? More like D U M! Giggady giggady gig!

Re:Hahahah. (3, Insightful)

Seth Finklestein (582901) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804621)

Dear Seumas,

Get a job, then you can buy shit. Nobody likes to read a poor man's critiques of products he wouldn't buy.

I am proud to have owned my favourite movies on LaserDiscs (no DRM!), DVDs (plays on my laptop!), and UMDs (plays on my handheld game consoles!). Go watch your XviD movies on your 6-year-old ThinkPad you bought off eBay for $200 and save the righteousness for priests.

Sincerely,
Seth Finklestein
White-Collar Worker

Re:Hahahah. (0, Flamebait)

Seumas (6865) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804807)

Actually, you're reading a fairly wealthy man's critiques of products he wouldn't by, while he's reading your stupid trollish response on his 17" powerbook in his office.

Now, the question is, if I'm going to waste money supporting the MPAA for a movie that I'm only going to watch a couple times, why am I going to do it with a stupid UMD that I can only watch on my 2" PSP screen instead of my 17" laptop or on one of my two 30" apple cinema displays or my 50" widescreen HDTV? Wherever I go, either my Thinkpad running debian or my powerbook is with me. And thanks, but I'd really rather pop in a DVD (or xvid) and watch it on my 17" than close up the laptop and enjoy the amazing "like really being there!" 2" screen PSP.

But hey, if you'd rather waste all of your money on a stupid UMD collection that you'll never get any use out of instead of buying really cool shit, that's fine with me. That's the difference between being cool and being trendy.

By the way, I hope you're enjoying your NGAGE, pussy.

Re:Hahahah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804849)

wow... you sure told him ... he won't be messin wit yo 78" apple power pod hd igadget... let me know when you get ready to whip it out and challenge him to a swordfight.. douche

Re:Hahahah. (4, Funny)

cbreaker (561297) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804892)

Fighting on Slashdot is like the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

PS. You're a shining example of why I don my sig.

Re:Hahahah. (1)

justsomebody (525308) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804969)

??? And you're the one to talk about overpriced? What now? Next week, birds hosting egg cooking show?

PB 17"? 30" ACD?

These are overpriced items (at least price-performance, when I was selecting 24" (30" is too big for coding, so I decided on 24) LCD display ACD has fallen out the first. Quality is poor and price is enourmous) and the fact that I hate Apple has nothing to do with that.

btw. You're not the only one with 50" HDTV amd two notebooks, so you can stop showing your wang and step in line as the rest of us that own them.

Re:Hahahah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804993)

How do you travel effectively with a 17" laptop, a DVD case, and that gigantic penis you have developed from buying so much electronics and winning so many arguments on Slashdot? I mean really, you must have trouble sitting down without crushing it beneath your svelte übergeek frame.

Re:Hahahah. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13805715)

Good play!

Re:I own a PSP and It has ergonomic issues (1)

Akaihiryuu (786040) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805158)

I just got a Polaroid 7" portable DVD player for just over $100. Not only is that less than half of the price of a PSP (even after tax), I can play regular DVD movies on it, it has a 4-5 hour battery life, it has audio/video inputs and outputs so I can hook it up to the TV or hook my videogame systems to it, and it even has a remote control which is useful if it's hooked up to the TV. Anyone that would buy UMD movies for the PSP is an idiot, IMHO.

Re:Hahahah. (2, Insightful)

SmokeSerpent (106200) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805056)

Spending $20+ on a full sized DVD that you can watch on your widescreen television once or twice in your life is absurd enough ...
Trading less than an hour's work for 4+ hours of entertainment is well within reason.

Besides, do you really think that most people watch most DVDs that they buy only 1 or 2 times?

Re:Hahahah. (2, Insightful)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805758)

"If you paid $20 for content on UMD so you could watch it on a tiny little screen, you deserve to be shot. Spending $20+ on a full sized DVD that you can watch on your widescreen television once or twice in your life is absurd enough, much less this PSP UMD nonsense. But it just proves, people will buy anything!"

Or it proves that some people find themselves spending time idling and they want something to occupy themselves. I've heard a few times that people who ride the bus a lot find the PSP to be a wonderful little device. Frankly, I'd probably be interested in one as well if I were still at my previous job. I travelled by plane a lot. Sometimes I'd spend up to a week at a time in a hotel. The idea of a pocket sized device with an interesting collection of movies would have been quite attractive to me. Every trip, I'd pick up a couple of UMDs and be off.

That said, I'm actually more attracted to the video iPod. 30/60 gigs of storage plus a video out. I could keep a reasonably large library of shows or movies to watch on it, then hook it up to the TV at the hotel to kill a couple of hours before bed. Not a bad deal since I'm on the market for an iPod anyway.

You don't see it, that's fine, but that doesn't mean everybody's stupid.

Overhead projector mod? (4, Interesting)

saskboy (600063) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804559)

Does this essentially turn your PSP screen into a transparency, and a digital version of an overhead projector sends it to the TV screen?

Re:Overhead projector mod? (1)

kd5ujz (640580) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804609)

Yeah, it sounds like a moded webcam that sits on top, and projects the video. I assume there is a headphone male plug that will help with the audio. Sounds like junk to me,but I will have to see it first.

Re:Overhead projector mod? (1)

fafaforza (248976) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804824)

> a transparency

A free PSP for every entering High Schoo student!

(Transparencies were heavily used in my calculus class in HS)

Re:Overhead projector mod? (1)

Mahou (873114) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804918)

and does it come with a screen cleaner? imagine a little smudge or scratch magnified onto your tv.

I'm skeptical (5, Funny)

bchernicoff (788760) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804560)

I wonder what this will cost, weight, and how good the picture will look. Also, can I clip it to my wang?

Ben

Re:I'm skeptical (5, Funny)

Geminus (602334) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804653)

I'm not sure if I want to watch anything clipped to your wang...

INSIGHTFUL?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804805)

How in the world is this insightful?

Re:I'm skeptical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804841)

Wangcasting?

/your wang wants a blog

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804711)

how good the picture will look

Probably horrible. Not only are you converting the signal from digital to analog to digital to analog again, but you're taking content meant to be on a screen a few inches big and putting it on a screen ten times the size.

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

Guspaz (556486) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804798)

Not to mention the fact that while UMDs are encoded at DVD resolution, the PSP only displays them at a lower resolution. UMDs were meant to be used outside the PSP, which is why they're encoded at a highe resolution.

By doing this webcam-on-psp garbage, not only are you limiting yourself to PSP resolution on your TV, you're putting up with the higher response time of the LCD on the PSP. You're recording the LCD screen's flaws.

Not to mention the fact that I highly doubt the camera in this rediculous contraption is going to be high enough detail to even capture the true resolution of the LCD.

This is going to come out looking worse than overused VHS tapes, mark my words.

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

Elm Tree (17570) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805082)

A "few" inches? I think you're giving his wang too much credit.

Re:I'm skeptical (5, Funny)

masonbrown (208074) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804810)

From this picture of a Wang [sieler.com] , it looks like you'll need a much bigger Lik-Sang for your Wang.

What's the point? Buy a PS2 (4, Insightful)

poopie (35416) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804572)

The whole exercise seems like a lot of work to hook a PSP up to a TV with a device that's got to be ugly and unweildy. Why not just buy a PS2 if you want to play games on the TV?

Re:What's the point? Buy a PS2 (1)

2e (93074) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804619)

I think the games are diff'rent, read "incompatible".

Yeah, it does seem like a lot of work.
At first, I thought this article was about a "PSP TV Adapter."
So one could WATCH TV ON THEIR PSP.

What was I thinking!?!?

Re:What's the point? Buy a PS2 (0, Flamebait)

earnest murderer (888716) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804975)

I think the games are diff'rent, read "incompatible".

Naw, PSP games are just conversions of the same games that weren't that good on the PS2 a few years ago.

Why pay twice as much [compusa.com] money for games that are gimped [compusa.com] versions of their plugged in bretheren? Especially if you're only going to spend more money on a device to display it on a television.

Re:What's the point? Buy a PS2 (1)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805273)

Well, the games could be different, but most of them are the same.

Um... (1, Funny)

Kraeloc (869412) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804587)

Seems to me this might be a response to the Video iPod.

Re:Um... (1)

kd5ujz (640580) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804658)

I dont see how this has anything to do with the video IPod.

Re:Um... (1)

kraiger (704911) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804847)

Nothing at all to do with the new iPod. This isn't even made by Sony, so that's just a silly thing to say! p.s. Everyone stop calling it the "video iPod"! It's just the new iPod. No fancy name to go with it.

Re:Um... (1)

Kraeloc (869412) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804926)

You're entirely right. I justed needed to RTFA all the way through. Terribly sorry, please excuse my momentary idiocy.

Re:Um... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13805748)

iPod V is a much better name, considering it is the 5G iPod.

I Don't See... (5, Insightful)

monkaduck (902823) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804589)

So essentially I'm paying for a UMD disk, then a converter to play it on the TV? And then the PSP version of the game and said converter to play on TV? I already have this. It's called my PS2. I'm not paying for stuff twice just so I can be "cool."

You aren't paying twice... (1)

earnest murderer (888716) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805049)

By the time you purchase the PSP version of the game you already have, you haven't spent twice as much money.

You've paid three [compusa.com] times [compusa.com] as much. (never mind the cost of the PSP and TV thing)

Re:I Don't See... (1)

cgenman (325138) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805622)

A friend at work just bought the PSP version of SSX 4. He was royally pi$$ed to find out that the PSP version he just bought is 10 dollars more than the regular console versions.

On the one hand, I'm surprised that as many UMD movie disks are selling as they are. The idea of portable movies isn't new or revolutionary, and the PSP has the capacity to playback movies from resonably affordable [pricewatch.com] flash memory.

On the other hand, I can't see strapping a cheap digitizer to an LCD screen, feeding the video to a television, and having it be anything other than crappy. PSP UMD disks have resolutions significantly below broadcast quality, and not at all up to DVD standards. But if you really wanted to do something like that, the best way would be to use a inline [lik-sang.com] digitizer that snags the signal before it goes to the LCD screen. That way the resolution you do have remains as crisp as it is likely to be, short of having a dedicated UMD player.

And don't worry too much about voiding your warranty. Sony has already made clear that nothing that is likely to go wrong with your PSP is covered under warranty.

hmmm... (5, Funny)

atarione (601740) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804595)

PSP $249
UDM movie $20
funny looking video capture device on top of your PSP $100
watching crappy degraded UDM movie on your TV...... PRICELESS.

oh wait... no this seems really f'ing stupid... why dosn't the psp have some sort of tv out anyway?

more math.... (1)

freeze128 (544774) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804640)

How about this:

DVD Movie: $15.99
Standalone DVD player: $40
Never needing to buy a movie in a proprietary format: Priceless.

Re:more math.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804854)

You don't consider DRM CSS encoded dvds proprietary?

Huh? (1)

autopr0n (534291) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805019)

Since when were DVDs not proprietary?

Re:Huh? (1)

RobertLTux (260313) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805212)

well considering the action of a man named JON the dvd thing can be considered well..
"spoken by an aquatic fowl for the next 7 standard days" so no its not

Re:more math.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13805343)

Linux: Free
VLC: Free
BitTorrent: Free

Knowing that I have access to all the media I want, all the time: Priceless.

For really smart people, there's open source. For idiots, there's Wal-Mart.

Re:hmmm... (1)

computerdude33 (890573) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804643)

UDM? Universal Digital Media? Wow! This has to be the best thing since the Universal Media Disc!

Re:hmmm... (1)

atarione (601740) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804690)

ummm ya ya ya ..... i meant UMD... I just haven't had enough coffee yet ... you got teh idea however right sparky???

Re:hmmm... (1)

computerdude33 (890573) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804753)

UDM sounds better than UMD, anyhow.

Pict (5, Informative)

PyroX_Pro (579695) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804628)

Here's a picture, LoL. [qj.net]

You'd be a tool to buy this.

Re:Pict (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804646)

Um, yeah, looks REAL portable as well. NOT!

Re:Pict (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804667)

Yeah, especially since you're hooking it up to the tv.

Re:Pict (1)

Anubis350 (772791) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804689)

true, though if it were a little larger itd make a nice codpiece, so you could us it *for* your tool....
At least then it might have some practical value

Re:Pict (1)

august sun (799030) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804715)

looks like they caught the PSP first thing in morning, how embarrassing!

Quality? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804648)

Wow, talk about a way to get a low resolution DVD substitute which would look sketchy on a full-size screen to look worse. Eh, if I want a movie on my TV I'll get a real DVD.

If they can get it looking good, kudos to them. It'd be tough to do.

Version 2 in the works already (3, Funny)

TheGuano (851573) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804664)

Why do you need a TV for a big-screen experience on the PSP? Just make a verison that clips on to a huge fresnel lens. Instant 40" widescreen action!

Re:Version 2 in the works already (1)

hazee (728152) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805578)

Or how about fitting arms to the side of the PSP that fold round and hook over your ears, so that you can wear it like a pair or shades?

With the screen just an inch or so in front of your eyes, it's bound to appear HUGE! Just like those virtual reality goggles - "gives the appearance of a 52 inch screen at a distance of 3 feet"...

If it works then great but... (2, Interesting)

Brad1138 (590148) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804686)

It sounds awful cheesy to me.

Excellent (4, Interesting)

taskforce (866056) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804699)

While I'm sure nobody is particularly thrilled or compelled to rush out and get a PSP so they can use one of these, It sure does present a great way of getting the UMD content onto a PC (albeit through an analogue in) on a VIVO equipped PC of some kind. In the days of DRM, analogue is your friend.

Re:Excellent (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804937)

They have another adapter that takes the digital signal sent to the LCD but that requires hardware modifications.

OMG (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804707)

I guess this hardware has some kind of blurring device build-in too to enhance the resolution of the UMD as well... But no RGB?

  How far will they go to make PSP and UMD's superior to a $40 DVD player until they realize that... ...Ah, I wont spoil this. Just sit and enjoy the show as long as they can justify their UMD purchase.

Re:OMG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804774)

How far will they go to make PSP and UMD's superior to a $40 DVD player until they realize that... ...Ah, I wont spoil this. Just sit and enjoy the show as long as they can justify their UMD purchase.

No way!!! UMD rules!!! Just bought "Stealth" and I love it to death, dude!!! It's like DVD but better because it's small and portable and has a higher resolution in relation to the size of the media!!! Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh....

UMD (2, Insightful)

TX297 (861307) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804735)

I for one don't see the purpose of buying movies on UMD, especially since you can buy a full-size DVD and rip it to your PC to use on a memory stick. Much more versatile that way.

Also, Lik-Sang does sell a modification kit with a pure s-video out and PS2 controller port if you look around in TFA.

Re:UMD (1)

earnest murderer (888716) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805003)

I for one don't see the purpose of buying movies on UMD, especially since you can buy a full-size DVD and rip it to your PC to use on a memory stick. Much more versatile that way.

Especially when the DVD is a third [compusa.com] less expensive>.

What about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804736)

What about movies like Advent Children released only in UMD format?

Re:What about... (1)

Tidal Flame (658452) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804812)

What are you talking about? Advent Children was released on DVD as well. In fact, I just got back from Japan a week ago, and I've got the DVD right here in my hand.

Sony is not going to like this... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804756)

Sony is gona have a field day since people can intercept the signal and upload it as pirated UMD movies. Given Sony's love for DRM, I am not suprised if they ask the customs to intercept those devices and have the courts declear them illegal.

Unstoppable hack (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804790)

No matter how tightly they manage to bolt down our content with DRM, something like this will always be possible. As long as we can play the signal and see it once on our DRM'd monitors, we can record it. OK, so the quality will be degraded a bit but most people are willing to put up with a less than optimum signal most of the time. (otherwise we'd all have Beta instead of VHS)

Viewmaster (1)

SleepyHappyDoc (813919) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804792)

With all the nostalgia gaming in the homebrew scene, I'm sure someone will buy this cuz it looks like the cool black Viewmaster we wanted as kids. Those of us who remember the ugly red one may agree.

Um... okay (2, Interesting)

mcc (14761) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804821)

So between this and the PSP's already-announced "virtual boy" addon [engadget.com] , do you think we're starting to see a trend here?

Theaters (1, Offtopic)

gcnaddict (841664) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804840)

Wouldnt this work in theaters too? The way I see it, someone can take their PSP into the theaters and record the whole damned movie and no one would notice...

correct me if I misunderstood what the article said.

Re:Theaters (2, Funny)

ratpack91 (698171) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804934)

yeah you got lost. In fact you didn't even make it out the door.

First DMCA Workaround (1)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804852)

This is significant because it completely circumvents the DMCA. For years we've been saying, "the DMCA has no teeth, because ultimately; if I can see it or hear it, I can record it." That is exactly what is happening here, but it avoids the DMCA because it does not break any encryption or other form of effective copyright protection.

So, who's placing bets on how long it will take for the volley of lobbyists to reach DC?

Re:First DMCA Workaround (1)

pintomp3 (882811) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805415)

mod parent up. soon we will have hdcp occular implants so u can't watch a movie at a friends place. perhaps after than, the brain implant. that way u can't remember a scene from office space and enjoy a free chuckle.

LMFAO (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804862)

Did you read the article? "Unfortunately, the installation requires you to open and modify your PSP console, and you need to replace the front face plate with a new one. This TV Adapter is recommended only for advanced D.I.Y. technicians, and installing the kit will definitely void your warranty." [lik-sang.com]

So if it's not a 'mod', but it voids your warranty, what is it? Oh yeah, a PIECE OF CRAP! Ok, I'm going to take 480 x 272 video and blow it up to wide screen using an A/D/A conversion device costing $120 ... it will look HORRIBLE! This will be worse than the crappy ripped AVI movies people put on the web....GACK!

I hate to say it, but this is one of those times where it REALLY is better to buy the effing DVD! And, I HATE the MPAA (and the RIAA, for that matter).

Obvious! (4, Funny)

Stavr0 (35032) | more than 8 years ago | (#13804896)

So how does this compare to putting the PSP and a camcorder in a black shoebox and running the cables to your TV?

Patent pending: to use this technique you must send me $100.

Stupidist Idea Ever (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804941)

UMD Video will be on our tv's soon enough. People think the content was only designed for the psp screen but in all reality, UMD Video is actually encoded at 720x480 (Same resolution as a DVD Video). Think about the math for a second
1.8 gig umd encoded with mpeg 4 avc codec.
4.7 gig dvd encoded with mpeg 2

Mpeg 2 -> Mpeg 4 cut file sizes in half by itself
Mpeg 4 -> h.263 (avc) Cuts file sizes almost in half again
That really comes down to mpeg 2 dvd quality can fit in 1/4 the space when encoded with h.263
1.8 gigs a disc is really quiet a bit for a h.263 encoded movie at dvd resolution, just look at divx, where you can rip an entire movie down to 700meg and maintain most it's quality. H.263 pushes that even further.

If sony was to encode video for the psp at 480x272 with a bitrate of about 1 meg a second for video and 128kb sound, it would come out far smaller then 1 gig, but the reason you don't see umd rips (which could be played back on a computer using a special player) is because currently there are not many 2 gig pro duo sticks and it makes these movies hard to rip because they almost always take the full 1.8 gig of the umd.

This sony encoding at 720x480 is not just a hunch based on file sizes either, it's a little bird that wispered in my ear. I think in the next year or two, you can expect to see other umd format devices, such as home players and maybe higher resolution portable movie players.

People who take this path of scanning there psp to show it on the tv are morons, and they are potentially going to have the worst quality ever seen on a tv. The only way it would be bareable is if the tv your watching it on has a smaller screen then the psp itself, otherwise you'll just have a blurry mess.

Re:Stupidist Idea Ever (1, Funny)

SheeEttin (899897) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805076)

Either:
1. Lies (hence the AC).
2. Truth.
a little bird that wispered in my ear
3. LSD. If birds start whispering to you, you need to lay off the hallucinogens.

Re:Stupidist Idea Ever (1)

mrscorpio (265337) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805478)

I am highly in doubt that a 75% reduction in file size will net video quality that is anywhere close to that of a standard DVD as you are claiming. I guess time will tell though.

Re:Stupidist Idea Ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13805648)

but the reason you don't see umd rips (which could be played back on a computer using a special player) is because currently there are not many 2 gig pro duo sticks

Why should someone bother ripping from an UMD at all?

Say hello to our future! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13804994)

This is how we will rip HD-DVDs in the near future.
When the path from the disc to the display is completely encrypted,
this will be the only way to duplicate your own movie.
So don't throw away this old videocamera and microphone.

I think they've missed the point a little. (1)

MarkTina (611072) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805047)

ummm ... while I applaud the ingenuity in getting this to work, I feel they've missed the point by, oh, about 2 miles!

The whole thing about the PSP is that it's portable .. you know you can leave you house with it, play games and watch movies on the train that sort of thing. I know that's what I do with mine ... or is it me thats weird ?!?!?!

can you stream iTV feeds to the player on the PSP? (1)

montale127 (307830) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805179)

i haven't tried this yet... anyone know whether there're any weirdnesses in accessing URLs, rtsp or mms streams, etc. from the location free player on the PSP?

PAL and NTSC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13805265)

I'm glad the composite or S-video on this device is compatible with both NTSC and PAL tv's.

P.S. If you think I'm serious your a frigging moron.

Hmmm (1)

Legendof_Pedro (900265) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805327)

Sound lossy... Personally, I'd rather take a solderign iron the the screen itself, well, it's connectors, anyway.

PSone (2, Insightful)

PopeOptimusPrime (875888) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805554)

If I wanted to play PSP games on my TV I'd buy a PSOne.

I have a better idea... (1)

acidblue (716452) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805614)

How about an iPod adapter so that you can record all your DRM enabled AAC files directly onto 1/2" audio tape and encode them again via a soundcard.

They should market that video device as a Macrovision Breaker (if such protection is used in the UMD format).

you must be sheeting me (0)

5n3ak3rp1mp (305814) | more than 8 years ago | (#13805746)

that is the ugliest hack I've ever heard of. I might as well point my iSight [apple.com] at my PSP and display it on my flatscreen. unbelievable...
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