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DVD Jon to work for Michael Robertson

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the make-something-great dept.

News 265

GuNgA-DiN writes "Jon Lech Johansen, the 21-year-old Norwegian media hacker nicknamed DVD Jon, is moving to San Diego to work for maverick tech entrepreneur Michael Robertson in what can only be described as the most portentous team-up since Butch met Sundance. "I have no idea what I'll be doing, but I know it will be reverse engineering, and I'm sure it will be interesting," Johansen told Wired News during a Friday stopover in San Francisco. Robertson's website reveals that they are working on a new project and all he said was: "Oboe is the code name for a significant new project we have underway that will launch before the end of the year. It's as momentous as anything I've ever done in my technical career, but I won't say more since I despise vaporware. I know this project will be even better with Jon on board.""

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265 comments

More info at WSJ Story and Jon's Blog (4, Informative)

Hulkster (722642) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825832)

The WSJ story can be read here [post-gazette.com] and has some interesting insights as Jon as a person. Also check out Jon's Blog [nanocrew.net] that is appopriately (?) titled "So sue me"

Hulk'in Halloween Display/Webcam is up [komar.org]

Re:More info at WSJ Story and Jon's Blog (1)

ion_ (176174) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826039)

Quoth the linked article:

At the age of 15, Mr. Johansen wrote a computer program that allowed users to copy DVDs.

One can copy a DVD without ever breaking CSS. You need DeCSS to decode the contents -- for example to watch the DVD.

Re:More info at WSJ Story and Jon's Blog (1, Redundant)

mpathetiq (726625) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826102)

Who do you think wrote DeCSS?

Re:More info at WSJ Story and Jon's Blog (1)

KronicD (568558) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826260)

The point he was making is that DeCSS isnt required to copy a DVD, only to watch it.

Re:More info at WSJ Story and Jon's Blog (2, Funny)

mpathetiq (726625) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826331)

Aye. I misinterpreted it. Perhaps I shouldn't be posting while doing wireless surveying in the car. Don't worry, I'm not driving... my boss is.

Re:More info at WSJ Story and Jon's Blog (4, Funny)

Itchy Rich (818896) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826470)

Perhaps I shouldn't be posting while doing wireless surveying in the car. Don't worry, I'm not driving... my boss is.

Right, and you were just down there looking for your keys. Heard it all before...

mod parent down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826351)

He's a troll, plain and simple. He manually typed out his signature! He just wants traffic to his site so he can cash in on the google ads. What's worse, he's a fraudster! His displays are all a scam.

Stay out! (5, Insightful)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825833)

He should stay out of the US. We don't need him becoming another Dmitry Sklyarov.

Agreed (4, Interesting)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825860)

now he won't be able to reverse engineer anynthing that circumvents the copy protection on Blu-Ray.

Re:Stay out! (1, Insightful)

zzqzzq_zzq (883263) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825913)

Yup. Bets on how soon after he moves he'll be busted for something..

Welcome to Amerika.

Seconded! Don't do it! (5, Insightful)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825997)

Dmitry was the first person I thought of too - seriously Jon, stay out! I'm not kidding. You'll wind up in jail. Doesn't matter if what you did was legal in your own country or not. The Media Mafia does NOT care. They'll have you locked up. These guys own Senators and they make the rules.

No offer they've made could possibly be worth the risk. Don't do it.

Re:Seconded! Don't do it! (1)

BJZQ8 (644168) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826059)

Senator Roark will get revenge on you through Nancy! You cut his bloodline!

Re:Stay out! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826010)

Damn right! There's only one oboe he'll be playing when he gets thrown in jail: a big pink one.

Re:Stay out! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826339)

I personally was offered a choice of pink or brown - you went to the wrong jail, buddy :)

Let's get ahead of the game (5, Funny)

Lifewish (724999) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826051)

Why don't we just set up the "Free Jon Lech Johansen" fund now? Will save time later.

Doesn't really matter anymore (5, Interesting)

CheeseTroll (696413) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826068)

According to the Wired article...

"In Norway, you have the same laws (as in the United States) now," he says, "so it makes no difference if I'm doing my work here or there."

Danger Will Robinson! Danger! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826276)

"In Norway, you have the same laws (as in the United States) now," he says, "so it makes no difference if I'm doing my work here or there."

This may be true but, I'd be surprised if it really were. I thought only the US had the DMCA. But, assuming it is true, it does not mean that the US have the same courts, judges, juries or mindsets as Norway. Indeed Jon's freedom in Norway was at risk. The fact that he was successful in twice defending himself in Norway does not guarantee that he will also be successful in the US. It doesn't even mean that he would be able to afford to defend himself in the US.

I'd hate to be in a US jail for months, waiting for a trial where a public defender will represent me against the wishes of massive moneyed corporations. There is no way that I would set foot in the US if I were DVD Jon. Surely he can telecommute for a software gig!

Re:Danger Will Robinson! Danger! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826473)

it does not mean that the US have the same courts, judges, juries or mindsets as Norway

Bingo. I have two words for Jon:
Judge Kaplan

There is no way that I would set foot in the US if I were DVD Jon.

Hell, I wouldn't set foot in the US even if I weren't DVD Jon. :o)

Re:Stay out! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826142)

That's the first thing I thought. Now both of them will be sued into oblivion by big media.

He's a coder. Why not work from home?

Re:Stay out! (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826417)

Sklyarov was found Not Guilty IIRC.

Is the DOJ really going to waste time prosecuting someone who will immediately be found innocent based on precendent?

Mysterious (0, Troll)

wedgehead (654217) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825834)

So mysterious that no one can think of any posts?

adsfgadsgdfga (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13825835)

forgl porst

MPAA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13825837)

Lets just hope that the MPAA doesn't try to charge him HERE.

I Hope He's Working On Something Legal (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13825853)

It's about time that he go legit.

Maybe he'll learn from his youthful indiscretions and use his skills and talents on something productive and useful.

Re:I Hope He's Working On Something Legal (3, Insightful)

aichpvee (631243) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825901)

Being able to play DVDs on Linux seems pretty productive and useful to me.

Re:I Hope He's Working On Something Legal (1)

real_smiff (611054) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825983)

well maybe not productive ;). but you should have the right to see things you've bought w/o needing another "licence". grandparent, i hope you're being paid by the **AA, if not, why are you shilling for them?

Re:I Hope He's Working On Something Legal (1)

Slashcrap (869349) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826011)

Being able to play DVDs on Linux seems pretty productive and useful to me.

Yeah, I've been waiting for that feature for years. I long for the day when I will finally be able to play a DVD under Linux.

Who knows, maybe one day someone might even crack their encryption scheme?

It's a trap! (5, Funny)

parasonic (699907) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825857)

Moving to the US...

Officer: Welcome to America, sir
Jon: It's a trap!
[Brief pause] Officer: You are under arrest for crimes against the DMCA.

Re:It's a trap! (2, Funny)

-kertrats- (718219) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826129)

Actually, Michael Robertson made a deal to sell him out to the US government, but once they have DVD Jon in custody they'll also arrest Michael Robertson for aiding and abetting and take his reward.

Re:It's a trap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826402)

moderators beware, this is _not_ funny.

All I know (4, Insightful)

Kawahee (901497) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825873)

"All I know is it will involve reverse engineering"

Despite the fact that reverse engineering is legal for plenty of abstract instances, there's only a few cases where it's legal (in the US) to reverse engineer to compete/modify/upgrade (with) a product.

I'm guessing this 'Oboe' thing is doomed to fail, regardless of how 'legit' it is, it's going to be blockaded by legal barrierers and appeals and whatnot.

That's assuming they're using the reverse engineering to enter a market and compete with another services, if it's something completely new and doesn't compete with other services (at least directly), I'll change my tune.

Re:All I know (4, Insightful)

hador_nyc (903322) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825943)

As far as I know, it's legal to reverse engineer. Then you build something significantly different, but performing the same function, and sell it. I know people at P&G that do that with pratically every consumer product on the market. Is there a patent issue I'm missing? I though that was the whole point of patent laws and the like. You can reverse engineer if you like, but can't build something significantly similiar during the life of the patent. You can build something to perform the same function though.
All that aside, I'm curious what they're up to. I'm a fan of competition and innovation. Isn't that the reason we all attack Microsoft so much?

How about a VPN then? (3, Insightful)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826031)

If he's going to be doing "reverse engineering", why on earth would he come to the place on planet Earth where he is most likely to wind up in jail for doing so?

Why not hook him up with a VPN and have him work out of his current home? You know, some place far far away where he can't wind up in jail for DCMA violations?

You don't need your physical body to be in the US to work for a US company, you know. Keep your body somewhere where it can't get thrown in jail.

Perfectly legal (1)

shadowj (534439) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826099)

IANL, of course, but reverse engineering is perfectly legal under most circumstances. The DMCA creates one exception... it's illegal to perform reverse engineering in order to circumvent a security mechanism, i.e., copy protection.

Re:All I know (2, Interesting)

mwvdlee (775178) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826249)

If you use Compaq's famous method, R.E. is perfectly legal.

-Get one team to reverse engineer and document the functionality of a system (that which can be observed as a user).
-Get another team to only take those documents and build a new system.

This way avoids any copyright issues because nothing is copied except those parts which cannot be protected by copyright (the technical interface).

Only thing to worry about now is patents.

Another H1B case? (-1, Troll)

pigiron (104729) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825882)

I wouldn't care except it looks like he's going to be yet another H1B visa swine.

What's the difference (0, Offtopic)

mmkkbb (816035) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825885)

What's the difference between an oboe and an onion? Nobody cries when you chop up an oboe.

Re:What's the difference (0, Offtopic)

DataPath (1111) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825918)

What's the difference between an oboe and a bassoon?

The bassoon burns longer.

Re:What's the difference (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826109)

How do you get two oboe players to stay in tune with each other?

Shoot one.

Re:What's the difference (1)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826183)

Mmm, that's a joke I always heard with viola players in it rather than oboe players. Here's another one, though: what's the difference between two viola players?

One quarter tone.

(On a side note, it's amazing how many viola jokes are out there...)

Re:What's the difference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826020)

That's what makes oboes so great...

...as kindling...

Don't bother... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826118)

Thierry doesn't read Slashdot!

a million voices just cried out (1)

klang (27062) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825891)

and fell silent..

Who is going to break the DRM on pretty much anything and everything now?

Why can somebody that smart be so stupid? (as to move to The Land of The DMCA)

Re:a million voices just cried out (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13825973)

Who is going to break the DRM on pretty much anything and everything now?

The same people who broke CSS and other DRM schemes and let Jon publish them under his name because he was supposedly in a "safe" country. You don't really think he wrote that stuff do you?

Re:a million voices just cried out (1, Redundant)

Patrik_AKA_RedX (624423) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826015)

Perhaps he got "persuaded"? As in "Your wife is having a lovely vacation at our resort in Guatanamo bay. We believe you'd want to join her here as there are so many steep cliffs around here and, well, accidents happen..."

Re:a million voices just cried out (1)

BobSutan (467781) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826150)

If you'd read the article, you would have realized that Norway (among others) have been forced to adopt their own DMCA-like provisions as part of an EU directive. With all things being equal he said he might as well come to the States since he can now have direct access to all of America's [previously] restricted [DRM'd] content (i.e. Realnetworks).

Re:a million voices just cried out (1)

lbrt (625194) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826271)

If you'd read the article, you would have realized that Norway (among others) have been forced to adopt their own DMCA-like provisions as part of an EU directive.

You seem to have some information that no one else has. So tell me, when did Norway join EU?

Re:a million voices just cried out (2, Interesting)

808140 (808140) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826337)

That's all well and good, except that Norway isn't part of the EU, and thus is not under any obligations whatsoever to comply with any "EU directives".

Just so you know. Not all of Europe is in the EU. Here's a link: European Member States [eu.int] .

Re:a million voices just cried out (1)

Jussi K. Kojootti (646145) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826219)

It's pretty much Planet DMCA now. Most of Europe already has DMCA-like laws.

Re:a million voices just cried out (1)

thebdj (768618) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826238)

Indeed, I am working on installing some sort of DRM into genetic code to prevent people from being downloaded and copied illegally. (If you do not get the Futurama reference in that, bah on you.)

But now there's a company behind him... (2, Insightful)

airjrdn (681898) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825896)

Doesn't that just give the big boys someone to sue that has more money?

does not compute (1)

moviepig.com (745183) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825912)

How do you get "reverse engineering" and "momentous" into one paragraph?

Re:does not compute (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825950)

I think it was pretty momentous when Compaq first reverse-engineered the IBM PC BIOS.

Re:does not compute (1)

NormalVisual (565491) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826253)

Not quite - the BIOS source code was published in the PC tech reference manual. The first Compaq machines had a compatible BIOS as the result of a clean-room implementation, but it wasn't reverse engineered.

Wired Story (5, Informative)

hojna (914510) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825920)

The WIRED [wired.com] story is here. It is more indepth then the WSJ article.

wired article has more insight (2, Interesting)

enjahova (812395) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826143)

The Wired article makes a few things much more clear then the original article. It would stop this constant posting of "oh no Jon, don't move to the land of the DMCA" because it tells how Norway has adopted the EU's version of the DMCA. The original article only mentions this in passing at the end.
Also it tells more about Robertson and his previous battles with the content industry.

If Johansen goes on now to help make legitimate programs that will help change the face of content distribution and digital media, then I think this is better then waging guerrila warfare on content producers. I think DVD Jon made a good choice for himself, and probably for the good of digital entertainment.

Re:Wired Story (1)

Geek Dash Boy (69299) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826257)

The Wired article is more in depth, but it repeatedly calls the project "Obeo" rather than the correct name "Oboe".

I suppose you could blame Evan Williams [odeo.com] . Maybe we'll see a correction. or not.

Bad Idea (3, Insightful)

dismentor (592590) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825922)

He's just going to get arrested isn't he? He's clearly comitted crimes under the DMCA; more so than Dmitry Skylarov, and look what happened to him. I think this is a really bad idea.

Yes! (1)

Marthisdil (606679) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825947)

Let's bring in more foreigners...now he can break US laws and get arrested and put in jail :)

sorry guys.. (5, Funny)

jkind (922585) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825961)

But there is already something called an Oboe.
A doublereed, soprano range instrument with a conical bore (slightly expanding diameter from reed to bell). It has a nasal, but mellow and poignant, tone.
Honestly though I don't see how Lindows + DVD + reverse engineering = profit?!

Maybe oboe is... (1)

cryptoguy (876410) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826330)

...the ability to synchronize music across pc, ipod, and other devices regardless of format?

Hes going to reverse engineer woodwind instruments (1)

S. Baldrick (565691) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825967)

Diabolical!

TMM? (0, Troll)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 8 years ago | (#13825992)

I, for one, miss TripMaster Monkey's insights. What have you done with him?

Re:TMM? (4, Funny)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826310)

I, for one, miss TripMaster Monkey's insights. What have you done with him?

He is taking a well-deserved rest.

He'll be back as a higly-moderated first-post in a duplicate story near you real soon.

Re:TMM? (1)

SnailNobra (903090) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826327)

He probably got a job. I remember him mentioning he was not employed recently.

Origin of product? (1)

Tominva1045 (587712) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826002)



He might not be reverse engineering an American-made or otherwise legally protected in America product.

It might be a hydrogen-powered, transparent aluminum encased, Linux box- with full support for word, excel, powerpoint, etc.

oooh baby!

This has a familiar ring to it (0, Offtopic)

totallygeek (263191) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826004)

Reminds me of the hype surrounding the Segway.

Re:This has a familiar ring to it (1)

HermanAB (661181) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826258)

The what? Anyone who goes to all that expense to build a unicycle with two wheels and no pedals or seat, deserves an onion award...

An oboe by any other name (3, Funny)

FishandChips (695645) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826032)

Ah yes, a code word.

Prosecuting counsel: "Moreover he is, Your Honor, a player of the pink oboe."
(Judge faints, courtroom erupts in uproar)

Re: An oboe by any other name (1)

Kickersny.com (913902) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826082)

The article linked in the post mentions nothing of an oboe. They consistently call it Obeo...I think the submitter just read it wrong.

... would sound as bad! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826188)

(SCNR)

Dear Jon (1)

hode (771261) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826033)

You're moving from Norway to San Diego? I hope you packed your sunglasses and sunscreen. Enjoy!

criminals not allowed to immigrate (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826050)

I wonder how he got a visa with his criminal record?

Re:criminals not allowed to immigrate (2, Insightful)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826147)

From what I have read of the various affairs where he was implicated, he never was found guilty of anything in his homeland. So his record should be blank. I don't think he can be prosecuted in US if he is cautious. I believe the same was true for Skylarov and that they only could charge him when he made a presentation about circumvention techniques on US soil. I hope Jon checked his status and the US regulation with a lawyer before immigrating anyway.

Re:criminals not allowed to immigrate (1)

ArsenneLupin (766289) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826154)

I wonder how he got a visa with his criminal record?

Well, they wouldn't have been able to lure him to the US without granting him a visa first, would they?

He doesn't need a visa (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826396)

San Diego is right on the Mexican border, silly. Why bother with visas?

All we know about Oboe (5, Funny)

Xarius (691264) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826063)

Is that it will blow.

Re:All we know about Oboe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826245)

Where did you reed that?

For crying out loud (1)

nanojath (265940) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826073)

Absolutely true story: my novel in progress (don't tease) is about a young man going to San Diego to work for a wealthy maverick technology guru on a project involving reverse engineering. Is this a good omen or some kind of cosmic goof on me?

Reverse engineer! (-1, Redundant)

LuciferBlack (905438) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826121)

In Soviet Norway, DVD reverse engineers YOU! What? Oh crap...yeah yeah...okay they're not soviets. Sorry. The joke is over now. I need to get back to work... (should really learn more geography...)

One Word (0, Redundant)

weave (48069) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826123)

Ginger.

Re:One Word (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826196)

Don't you mean "it" [whatis-it.com] ? (flash, sound)

In other news... (1)

Dekortage (697532) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826125)

...a foreign programmer is moving to America to work on technology projects for a rich dot-com investor. This has never happened before, has it?

Vaporware? (1)

Nuclear Elephant (700938) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826131)

I won't say more since I despise vaporware.

Sounds like he has high expectations for this project.

I dont think he'll be working on DVDs... (1)

dontkillme (577915) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826152)

Linspire already has support for dvd playback so I kinda doubt he'll be working on DVD stuff... My bet is that he will be hacking on the Skype protocols to get Gizmo to be compatible with it. That way Gizmo will work on Skype, but not vice-versa.

http://www.gizmoproject.com/ [gizmoproject.com]

Re:I dont think he'll be working on DVDs... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826277)

what with the .deb and gizmo?

i've been looking forward for gizmo because Skype didn't work out of the box.
after the debian and linspire preference
i've spent a couple more days trying to fix Skype
and got the hang of it - it works pretty perfectly

It supports Linux with RPMs and DEBs

The bug? Well my systray was switched off - so I was getting two instances of SKype without knowing
which is why I thought my password was being reset each time.
The support people (Windows oriented as they are, could have guess that)
So my fault.

I am very very happy with Skype now.

It's easy once you know how.
It's easy to blame other people - when it could be ignorance of your own part.
I immediately jumped into the "They haven't ported it well, Why release a program that works bad in Linux, etc" sort of wallowing.

I feel bad, I apologize (not that they really care lol) to the SKype people.

Man, having a port is already a nice present.

I wont bother with Shitzmo even after they have the decency of releasing an RPM.
I don't like clubbing and preferences when it comes to Linux.
(Now you are going to say: Yeah but so many RPMs out there - don't have a .DEB ... )

Hero worship? (1, Insightful)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826172)

What's with /. and the fuckin hero worship

Jon is a kid hacker, wasn't even the author of DeCSS for crying out loud.

RMS needs a shower and job.

Kevin Mitnick *IS* a criminal.

Linus is not our lord saviour.

etc. etc...

Tom

Re:Hero worship? (1, Troll)

CypherXero (798440) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826255)

You must be new here.

Re:Hero worship? (1)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826291)

Check my UID dude. I'm upset specifically because I'm not new around here.

I mean the people I listed [except Jon] have done cool, useful things that impact our lives today. Congrats, thanks for the hard work, etc.

What people are missing though is that Linux is useful because of 1000s of people [more like tens of thousands...]. Linus started it, but imagine today with no GNU CC, no Mozilla, no gnome, no kde, no bash, no etc.... You're sitting a Linux [or BSD or whatever] machine using 100s of pieces of software NOT WRITTEN BY LINUS OR RMS.

The sooner people realize it's a group effort the better.

Tom

Re:Hero worship? (1)

psavo (162634) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826357)

Sadly, people will never be able to realize (or rather really understand) that this all is a group effort. Human brain isn't able to do that, all we can is iconize and idolize.

It's like, I 'know' that I should thank all the people and I can say 'thanks to all people that've participated' but it's not like I have a feeling for it. But when I can meet an participated individual I'm really grateful, with the feeling.

Re:Hero worship? (2, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826471)

It's a shame you were modded as funny instead of insightful, because you are dead right.

It's a manifestation of low self esteem really. Some people are sheep and *need* to have heros to follow.

Re:Hero worship? (0)

91degrees (207121) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826503)

Jon is a kid hacker, wasn't even the author of DeCSS for crying out loud.

Maybe he's got a job in UI design. Or PR. He seems to have been pretty good at self promotion.

RMS needs a shower and job.

He has a job. Professional Yak. Yaks don't shower.

Kevin Mitnick *IS* a criminal.

Okay - serious answer this time - Yes he is. But the penatly was totalyl disproportionate to the crime. It's like charging tresspassers with grand theft.

Linus is not our lord saviour.

No. he's the finnish god of open source.

Robertson = SIPphone, Gizmo (4, Interesting)

gerbercj (267098) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826213)

Although Michael Robertson is known for things like Lindows, it seems that he's currently more excited about SIPphone and his Gizmo Project. I would guess that he's more interested in connecting that tool to the world to make a Skype killer. It's already got IP Phone, Jabber chat, and links to Google maps. Perhaps they're ready to reverse engineer some chat protocols for integration into a Jabber server? If only my crystal ball were working...

DRM is Conspiracy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826222)

Then, more seriously, he added, "I'm not scared about being arrested now that I'm here. Michael has good lawyers."

Brave move, I expect this will be tested. It is also good he is backed well by someone who can afford the legal harassment from the entertainment industry. Sure hope he wins too as DRM is turning out to be a conspiracy. My attitude is if I don't buy them, don't get the content and don't copy it their case is mute. That is why I don't buy DVDs. And besides, my VCR records what I want to see which by last count is legal for personal use.

since Butch met Sundance? (1)

FuriousBalancing (903038) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826267)

That's the only way it can be described? Damn, I'm glad I know that, so I won't even try now.

DCMA (1)

joshsnow (551754) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826384)

Jon Lech Johansen, the 21-year-old Norwegian media hacker nicknamed DVD Jon, is moving to San Diego

So he'll be within prosecutable/persecutable range of the DCMA, then.

Oboe = a better GPS / WiFi / Other radio tech ? (4, Interesting)

Dave21212 (256924) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826479)


Well, the techie in me believes that you always give a project a secret code name that represents some attribute of the nature of the project [wikipedia.org] ... (or is that the evil genius in me)?

I looked around for data on the Oboe (ok, I went right to Google then to the Wiki) and found this intriging entry [wikipedia.org] :
Oboe was a British aerial blind bombing targeting system in World War II, based on radio transponder technology. The system went live in December 1942, about the same time H2S radar was introduced.

Oboe used two stations at different and well-separated locations in England to transmit a signal to a Mosquito pathfinder (RAF) bomber carrying a radio transponder. The transponder reflected the signals, which were then received by the two stations. The round-trip time of each signal gave the distance to the bomber. (continued)
... let the wild speculation ensue !

From Robertsons email (2, Interesting)

techstar25 (556988) | more than 8 years ago | (#13826512)

From Robertsons email...

Last Saturday, the Wall Street Journal ran a front page story about Jon relocating to the United States. After that, he got plenty of job offers from some of the biggest names in the technology business. I talked to him over lunch today and asked if he wanted to work at those other companies. "Not really," he replied in a typical minimalist Scandinavian-style reply, forcing me to ask why not. "I want to work on open systems, which is why I came to you."

Sounds good to me.

Get it right, dumbass. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13826517)

Apparently Annalee Newitz (the author of the article) is a really busy, important person. So busy and important that she can't get the code name of the project correct. Either that or she just leaked Mr. Robertsons secret weapon: codename Obeo.
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