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iPod Nano Scratches Result In Suit

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the don't-put-it-in-your-pocket-with-your-keys dept.

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Evil W1zard writes "Earlier this week a class action lawsuit against Apple was filed claiming that the iPod Nano has a widespread propensity for scratching easily. The lawsuit alleges that Apple violated state consumer protection statutes, as well as express and implied warranties and charges that Apple knew that there were design problems with the Nano." From the article: "An Apple representative declined to comment on the suit, but Apple has stated that the Nano is made of the same polycarbonate material that's found in previous iPods and maintained that the scratching problem does not appear to be widespread. The lawsuit charges, however, that the Nano contains a thinner coating of resin than on previous iPod models."

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Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (3, Interesting)

geomon (78680) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847320)

"The amount and durability of the resin applied as a protective coating during the Nano manufacturing process is clearly defective in that it is not sufficient to adequately protect the face of the Nano from extreme scratching and ultimately irreparable damage," the lawsuit says.

Notice that this statement is meant to sound like Apple just rigged Grandma's respirator to fail due to shoddy workmanship. While there is certainly damage to the Nano, and the coating process is "clearly defective", I don't buy for a minute the last statment that the players are irrparably damaged. There are plenty ways that Apple can make good without paying a fucking nickle to these assholes.

Mind you, I am no Apple fanboy and am not against filing law suits when people are being scammed, but this suit is just one more reason to ship lawyers to the Moon to minimize contamination of the rest of the world's population.

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (3, Insightful)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847359)

Notice that this statement is meant to sound like Apple just rigged Grandma's respirator to fail due to shoddy workmanship. While there is certainly damage to the Nano, and the coating process is "clearly defective", I don't buy for a minute the last statment that the players are irrparably damaged. There are plenty ways that Apple can make good without paying a fucking nickle to these assholes.

It doesn't sound like that at all...in fact it just sounds like a lawyer utilizing strong language - which is something you should do if you are making a complaint, or a lawsuit. You are not going to write "we think that it might be possible the nano might scratch, where the other ipods will not". At no point did they claim apple was evil or tried to ripoff people who purchased the nano - so no, relating apple to someone who rigged grandma's respirator is completely false.

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (3, Insightful)

kryonD (163018) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847439)

Seriously folks, it's no wonder that the legislature is ramming through laws to protect companies from these lawsuits. I mean really....there are places in this world where people will sell their daughters into the sex slave market so they can afford to get one kid through high school....and here we are whining that our iPod Nanos get scratches on them too easily. Am I the only one who thinks this is totally messed up?!?

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847464)

Then don't have more than one kid. Seriously, this isn't Grand Unified Theory here, if you can't even eat, don't make more mouths...

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847545)

Then don't buy an iPod Nano. Do some research. If they scratch easily, why the heck are people buying them?

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (2, Insightful)

AviLazar (741826) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847563)

Our resources are not so limited that we can't focus on multiple lawsuits, ranging from slavery to ipod nano's. Is the ipod nano more important then slavery, no, but is it important - sure. The legislature is not ramming laws to protect the companies because of other bigger issues - they are doing so for other reasons (some altruistic, some not so much).

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (2, Insightful)

evil agent (918566) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847564)

Sure, they're trying to make a strong case for themselves but "extreme scratching"??? Gimme a break. You could pretty much say that about anything with a screen.

If your willing to pay a couple hundred for an iPod, then set aside another 20 dollars and get yourself a case to put it in.

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (1)

geomon (78680) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847567)

At no point did they claim apple was evil or tried to ripoff people who purchased the nano - so no, relating apple to someone who rigged grandma's respirator is completely false.

I'm not spouting falsehoods, I am just utilizing strong lawyer-speak language.

I agree with you, but let's consider WATCHES (1)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847360)

I haven't worn a cheap watch since I started programming professionally, but I do seem to remember a $10-15 dollar Casio that had some "liquid crystal" face on it that was, though probably a market-speak term, nearly impossible to scratch.

Is there a reason NASDAQ:APPL didn't use this for their great Nano product?

By the way I bought 14 Nanos the day they came out for family and friends -- and DON'T regret it, they're truly innovative!

Re:I agree with you, but let's consider WATCHES (4, Insightful)

timster (32400) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847491)

Well, I don't know about CHEAP watches. Good watches have sapphire crystals, which aren't very easy to scratch.

Fundamentally it's a matter of hardness; anything will scratch if it encounters something harder. Hard materials like diamond and sapphire are pretty much inherently expensive. Thus, any material that would be practical for an iPod will scratch.

Re:I agree with you, but let's consider WATCHES (2, Informative)

hey! (33014) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847515)

You have to pay a lot more to get mineral crystals in watches. However, cheap watches tend to be protected by raised buttons or recessed faces. They often have plastic gaskety things around the faces that are a mm or so thick. This protects them from being scratched when they're tossed on your bureau.

Re:I agree with you, but let's consider WATCHES (1)

iamlucky13 (795185) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847584)

"Liquid Crystal" refers to the LCD display. As a programmer who probably sits in front of a monitor for 8+ hours a day, I'm sure you've heard of them. Watches don't have nearly as fancy of LCD as monitors, but the basic principle is the same. The cheap watch that I'm currently wearing while scratches fairly easily, but not deeply and it polishes really easily. It says it's made out of acrylic, which is softer and less durable than polycarbonate. The Nalgene bottles everyone is carrying are made out of polycarbonate. They scratch, but it's hard to do. When they do though, the scratches don't polish away easily.

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847456)

"The amount and durability of the resin applied as a protective coating during the Nano manufacturing process is clearly defective in that it is not sufficient to adequately protect the face of the Nano from extreme scratching and ultimately irreparable damage," the lawsuit says.

But no one is actually having the FACE of their Nano scratched, it's the resin that is getting scratched. So who cares how thick it is. It could be a mile thick and exposed portion of it will get scratched just like it were 1 um thick.

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (1)

Daniel_Staal (609844) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847497)

One comment I've seen regarding the Nano's scratching pointed out there was a reason why the Nano's are more likely to appear scratched, even when they aren't as scratched a previous versions: The new case design. In the previous iPods, the front resin rounded over and blended into the sides. In the Nano (and now the 5th gen iPod), the face has clear, 'sharp' (in comparison) corners.

The effect of this is to give the new iPods more 'depth' in their apprence, and a crisper, cleaner, face. Part of why this effect occurs though is that the new form-factor allows light from the sides as well as the direct light, and gives the resin finish more of a prisim effect. As a result, a minor scratch is more noticeable: it has more effect on the light you are seeing the iPod with.

Of course, none of that implies that Apple cut down on the amount of resin. Just that scratches are more noticable. Whether that is a design problem or not is open to interpetation.

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847566)

Oh, I think it's a design problem, but it doesn't mean that the product is defective in any reasonable sense of the word. It's a music player after all, and it still plays music even if it doesn't look mint.

The problem is that Apple (unusually) did not see the consequences of its design decisions on the perceived value on customer satisfaction. It may have been a mistake, but I shudder to think what will happen when disappointing customers becomes a crime.

Re:Fscking Scumbag Ambulance Chasers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847521)

dude, if u had one (I have the 2GB nano) you'd be singing a different tune. They're basically a mass of scratches after 1 week in your flannel shirt pocket (without even a pocket protector or pens or other shit) and obviously nobody who actually bought one is happy with that kind of underperformance.

First Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847327)

...results in more posts.

suck it up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847436)

Waah Waah Waah.. What a bunch of pussies. Apple should countersue based on the case of them being whiny little bitches. Electronics get scratched.. so what. It is called "wear and tear" for something! Do it still work after being scratched? Is the display readable after being scratched? Geez...

Don't blame APPLE (-1, Troll)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847332)

Apple are an AMAZING company.

This is NOT their fault.

When you truly INNOVATE the consumer electronics market, sometimes the price to pay is a bit of negative talk about an outsourced small piece of your product, in this case the wonderful iNano's screen.

Re:Don't blame APPLE (1)

eln (21727) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847363)

Part of it is their fault. When they found out that part of their inventory was faulty, they should have immediately issued a recall for all products with that particular problem. If it was really less than 1% of the Nanos sold, then this shouldn't have been that big of a deal to do.

Their failure to issue a recall, and to basically ignore the problem, opened them up to these sorts of lawsuits, and more importantly to a PR hit.

Re:Don't blame APPLE (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847389)

Apple are...

Apple is a single corporate entitly. Thus, it is singlular. As such, "is" should be used, otherwise you sound like an utter tard. That's quite an accomplishment on a site populated entirely of tards.

Re:Don't blame APPLE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847472)

A company is a group of people, therefore are is correct, tard!

Re:Don't blame APPLE (1)

TeacherOfHeroes (892498) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847432)

I can't tell; is this sarcasm or fanaticism?

This would be the second problem that the nano has had, already apple has had to replace nanos when the screens actually cracked. How is this not their fault; they put their name on the product, so it's up to them to make sure that it works properly.

Define "works properly" (1)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847457)

I bought 14 Nanos and they all work great.

Yeah, if I put one in my backpack along with sharp metallic objects and go hiking 3 days, it'll probably get a scratch or two.

How dare you claim the Nanos don't "work properly".

They're amazing razor thin devices that have changed the way humans listen to personal music FOREVER.

Re:Define "works properly" (2, Funny)

zxnos (813588) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847615)

...changed the way humans listen to personal music FOREVER.

no, not really. i still use my ears...

P A T H E T I C (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847467)

If it was Microsoft that botched an upgrade (for example) of their great hardware product you would be at their neck within a millisecond for "cheap cost cutting" ignorance et all. But NOOO its APPLE the company that "INNOVATES" (you see i CAN USE CAPS TOO!!), then were all on their side by default, right next to clueless macophiles that have no clue what a computer even is!

On a side note, in my university lab today i overheard this:

"Dude PC's soo suck! I cant wait to get my mac back, its been in the shop for 2 months!"

Intelligence at its finest, no doubt.

Re:Don't blame APPLE (0, Offtopic)

psst (777711) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847484)

All caps is an AMAZING way to get your point across!

It is NOT annoying!

When you truly EMPHASIZE what you type, sometimes the price to pay is a bit of negative talk from a loser mimicking everything you say; in this case, me.

I didnt know (5, Interesting)

timothykaine (821252) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847336)

I didnt know you could just sue people for releasing a crappy product.

I guess Microsoft and ATI both owe me a few bucks.

Re:I didnt know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847371)

You can sue anyone, at any time, for any reason. Yes, it may be fribolous, but you can do it.

Re:I didnt know (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847452)

You spelt "frivolous" defectivately, causing severe tire damage, so I sue you!

Re:I didnt know (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847508)

Just cause its a class action doesn't mean the people get money if they win nor does it mean that the company looses money. The Laywer will but not the people all the time. For instance Toshiba just lost a class action on some of their laptops. People had 3 options.

Laptop was ~$2500 dollars new and was basically useless because problem was so bad.

1. Send in for a fix (who knows what that entails since it was never fixed with previous fixes). Toshiba still made $2500 on a POS
2. Keep the lap no fix $500. Toshiba still made and you paid $2000 on a POS.
3. Send the latop in for test if falls in certain paramaters they keep laptop you get $1000. Toshiba still made and you paid $1500 dollars on a POS that you don't even get to keep.

So if you ask me from what I have experienced on a technology class action the company still makes millions while we the people get screwed.

Re:I didnt know (5, Funny)

punxking (721508) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847572)

I didnt know you could just sue people for releasing a crappy product. I guess Microsoft and ATI both owe me a few bucks.

That's a good idea, I'm going to do the same! I'll just save this legal letter I've written to my handy Iomega Zip Drive and then I'll

What is this garbage (1)

xgadflyx (828530) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847339)

So what product was it that said it best? Yeah, that's right, shampoo, rinse and repeat. Yawn.

On the 29th of September ./'rs were informed that Apple had agreed to fix the nanos with a faulty screen due to manufactures.We all know that its [slashdot.org]tiny and get stuck places normal ipods never have.

Re:What is this garbage (1)

RUFFyamahaRYDER (887557) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847399)

The faulty screens before happened to a small percentage of iPods Nanos. That problem was with the screen cracking not scratching. This lawsuit is about the scratching only which affects a large percentage of iPod Nanos.

Resin (2, Insightful)

Poromenos1 (830658) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847341)

the Nano contains a thinner coating of resin than on previous iPod models

Yes, well, the nano ITSELF is thinner than previous iPod models...

Re:Resin (1)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847522)

The nanos I've seen in pictures look great. I saw one in real life this kid at my college had and it was scratched to shit. He commented on how he wished he could have purchased the nano tube with it. This is a problem for apple. They released a product that was too susceptible to cosmetic damage and that's a big part of their promotion. This shouldn't be settled in courts. They should find better materials and offer their customers a replacement. It'll cost them, but customer loyalty has kept apple in business during the hard times so they can't forget about it now that they're doing well all of the sudden in the past few years.

And the other iPod models can just as easily be scratched. But there was never a black ipod to bring it out.

Why the need for a Lawsuit? (1, Flamebait)

Uruk (4907) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847343)

It's obvious that these screens can scratch. It's exposed to everything that's in your pocket.

PDA users have had this problem for a long time, which is why there are brisk sales for PDA screen protectors [palm.com].

<sarcasm>I guess my only question is why they aren't going after those bastard manufacturers who make the plastic and metal items that are responsible for scratching the iPod nanos.</sarcasm>

Re:Why the need for a Lawsuit? (1)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847449)

Every new iPod design comes with a lawsuit. The original iPod minis had aweful battery problems. Now the nano just scratches. The only time Apple can sell you something of unreal high quality is when they overprice to the extreme. When they sell at market value, there is problems.

Re:Why the need for a Lawsuit? (1)

distributed (714952) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847586)

next they would sue gawd for making polycarbonate scratchable. That would definitely be an outta court settlement.

Don't people ... (2, Insightful)

10101001011 (744876) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847345)

... Have anything better to worry about? I mean, we jump when our MP3 players scratch, but major issues like voting, the environment, and the homeless are all just glossed over as something too complicated to worry about, or not worth the effort. I am not trying to flame anyone in particular, since if, indeed Apple produced a shoddy practice they should be held accountable. SOmetimes, I just feel as if people don't realize there is more to life then a little piece of plastic and silicon.

But I'm new here...

Re:Don't people ... (1)

The Shrewd Dude (880136) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847477)

The post was modded correctly off-topic. This happens to be Slashdot, News for Nerds, not the BBC. This is tech news that (some) nerds are interested in. We go to other sites for information on other topics.

Re:Don't people ... (1)

spuke4000 (587845) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847523)

... Have anything better to worry about? I mean, we jump when our MP3 players scratch, but major issues like voting, the environment, and the homeless are all just glossed over as something too complicated to worry about, or not worth the effort. I am not trying to flame anyone in particular, since if, indeed Apple produced a shoddy practice they should be held accountable. SOmetimes, I just feel as if people don't realize there is more to life then a little piece of plastic and silicon. But I'm new here...

You must be new her.... oh, nevermind.

It's called "multitasking" (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847582)

Most people can be upset about the price of oil, the degradation of the environment, the war, natural disasters, AND shitty product design.

However, if you're the same troll we used to call "barcode" at Planet Crap (is that site still around?), then you wouldn't understand anyway.

Cheers.

Please Remind Me To... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847351)

Please remind me to sue Nescafe for my injuries due to their coffee being hot. Also, I'd like to sue God for the sunburn he gave me. Likewise, I must sue Taco for the eye damage that the Games pages causes. Furthermore, there is the lawsuit against Taco for my Slashdot addiction.

Looks like I found step 3. Profit, here I come. w00t!!!

There is some truth to this.... (0)

noneloud (891263) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847358)

I think the iPod scratches way too easily. Come on Apple, there are many different plastic advancements out there...Think different and listen to comsumers.

Re:There is some truth to this.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847460)

"Think different and listen to consumers. "

AND IF YOU DON'T, WE WILL SUE YOU!

Re:There is some truth to this.... (1)

middlemen (765373) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847510)

How can they listen to consumers, when they are busy listening to songs on their Ipod nano !

Re:There is some truth to this.... (1)

HairyCanary (688865) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847593)

Exactly - LISTEN TO CUSTOMERS. That's why a lawsuit like this is so wrong. Quality problems with products are easily solved through basic capitalism.

Dumbass lawyers (1)

GungaDan (195739) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847369)

Too lazy to go out and sue whatever it is that's scratching the screens...

Unless Apple advertised the screens as unscratchable, WTF kind of legal leg do plaintiffs even have to stand on?

Re:Dumbass lawyers (2, Funny)

Intron (870560) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847495)

They failed to warn you about the face getting scratched.

This just means that the 50-page book of safety instructions that noone reads will now have a 51st page stating that you should not place the unit next to or touching anything that can scratch it, deface it, mar the surface, or look at it crosseyed.

Dumbass posters (1, Informative)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847542)

RTFA, maybe spend 1 minute with Google, and you'd know the answer to your question.

Knowingly releasing a defective item is not legal, when the defect in question results in irreparable damage to a core function of the product or presents an undisclosed hazard to consumers. There are implied warranties with any product that goes to market, that have the full force of law behind them.

So they DID know... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847376)

"An Apple representative declined to comment on the suit, but Apple has stated that the Nano is made of the same polycarbonate material that's found in previous iPods"

So they MUST have known it scratched really easily....

Nanos Scartch Easily (2, Informative)

Daveznet (789744) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847382)

As an owner of an ipod nano I can attest to it being easily scratched. I had it not only 1 week and it seemed like its been thrown around for months, since then Ive been trying to buy a case for it but the local apple store is always sold out. Yes it scartches easily, but it still plays music, which is the reason I bought it, to listen to mp3s. Its not worth the time effort and money to get into a lawsuit with apple over!

Re:Nanos Scartch Easily (1)

nate nice (672391) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847616)

It definitely does. I bought my girlfriend one and after the first or second use it had a scratch near the top of the screen. She kept it in a sweatshirt pocket with nothing else in it so ideas about keys and other things found in pockets is baseless here. She was a bit upset (especially because finding cases is really hard right now) but we both agree it doesn't matter much. It works fine and the screen is 99.9% readable still so no real worry. It would be cool if there was a problem and Apple replaced the screens, however.

Re:Nanos Scartch Easily (2)

Daveznet (789744) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847641)

Yeha I got my best friend one as well and she still has the laminant on it and I gave it to her about 1 month ago. She wont take that laminant off until she gets a case for it, she doesnt want her nano looking like mine apperently!

Of course the resin layer is thinner (3, Funny)

aztektum (170569) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847383)

They just put a regular iPod in a cloner and reduced the scale. If you put a Nano in your cloner and increase the scale back to normal, the resin layer will compensate.

huh? (5, Funny)

greenguy (162630) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847384)

Did anyone else have to read this headline four or five times?

I finally got it, though. Someone had their iPod in their suit, which managed to scratch their results.

Re:huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847431)

no,

An iPod being kept in a suit resulted in nano scratches.

Re:huh? (2, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847487)

I had thought an iPod had attacked a suit-wearing result, but -- yeah, it's a bit cryptic.

It saved us from a full Apple-free day, though. Google, you're up...!

aluminum was better (5, Insightful)

zumbojo (615389) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847393)

Materials aside, these scratching problems seem symptomatic of a big step backwards in design. The iPod mini that the nano replaced was built from tough, brushed aluminum that stayed beautiful even after months in a pocket with change and car keys.

(I [heart] my iPod mini.)

Re:aluminum was better (1)

shmlco (594907) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847471)

Yeah. Not to mention that apparently the cool way to save your shuffle's, nano's, and pod's from scratching is to buy a aluminum protective cover for it... dumb.

Science has given us SEE-THRU aluminum! (1)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847494)

I just read an article here: http://www.dcmilitary.com/airforce/beam/10_42/nati onal_news/37782-1.html [dcmilitary.com]

We can now have see-thru and amazingly durable products using aluminum.

Apple should do that for those of us geeks buying their products.

Imagine a Beowulf cluster of see-thru aluminum iPods that lets you watch them operate!

Re:Science has given us SEE-THRU aluminum! (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847555)

Transparent aluminum!

But is it tough enough to hold two humpbacked whales?

Re:aluminum was better (1)

eMartin (210973) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847642)

My mini's screen is scratch free as well.

The only part that has scratches is the painted on Apple logo on the back.

Serious Doubts (2, Insightful)

Hrvat (307784) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847394)

Mind you the article says that they're suing Apple because the scratches can get so severe it prevents one from seeing the screen. If that is the case in ALL of these "scratch" cases, sure, Apple should replace it. Notice how Apple is replacing the Nanos with cracked screens.

However, I seriously doubt that with REGULAR USE (meaning under normal conditions) wear and tear is such that majority of these Nanos actually can't see the screen.

silliness (1)

lo_fye (303245) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847401)

This is just silly. If you bought, and you scratched it, it's your problem, not Apple's. Buy a frickin' Nano-tube for crying out loud!

Re:silliness (1)

DaggertipX (547165) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847581)

I bought a nano about 2 days after it was out, and at that time - there were no cases available for it. Even the apple branded ones that you could order from apple.com would not be available for 2-3 weeks. This is shoddy planning on Apple's part. I didn't think it would be TOO much of an issue, so I proceeded with my purchase. I also didn't think being placed in an empty pocket (no keys, no change, nothing but the nano) would scratch the screen enough that it is now difficult to read. I am actually a bit of an Apple fanboy, but the coating on the new device is not nearly strong enough. I'll be trying the nano/brasso trick soon, and i hope that does some good.

Plastic Scratches? (1)

Dak_Peoples (591544) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847405)

My cellphone scratches easily too. Common sense people. Thats why companies sell aftermarket ipod covers. Another frivolous lawsuit. Please move along. :)

He's lost it (4, Interesting)

tktk (540564) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847407)

...demanding that customers get their money back as well as a share of the company's profits on the music player's sales.

The lawsuit seemed somewhat legitimate until I read this little gem at ipodnn.com http://www.ipodnn.com/news/05/10/21/ipod.nano.laws uit/ [ipodnn.com]

OYFG (4, Funny)

hotspotbloc (767418) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847490)

...demanding that customers get their money back as well as a share of the company's profits on the music player's sales.
Clearly being a heavy crack user doesn't stop someone from practicing law.

Why make lawyers richer? (1)

spagthorpe (111133) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847411)

I can understand there might be a problem with scratches. Every product isn't perfect, but all this will do is give everyone in the suit a few $$$ or a free case or something, and the bottom feeding lawyers will make a huge pile of cash. Idiots.

Apple already addressed this (2, Insightful)

adzoox (615327) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847418)

Apple said anyone who felt the issue was big enough would repair or replace the Nano at no charge ...

what else do these jerkoffs want?

Not widespread? (2, Interesting)

futurekill (745161) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847419)

All the people I know ( about 10) that have the nano, including myself, have scratches all over including the metal plate on the back. I used mine for about 3 days and it has been sitting on my desk ever since. It seems to get scratches if you breathe on it funny or if dust should settle on it. Also, go to your local Apple store and see how many they have in pristine condition. Nano...good concept, less than stellar execution...

Re:Not widespread? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847613)

you've managed to get scratches all over the *metal* portion of your ipod and are complaining that the *plastic* got scratched too?

I removed my scratches w/Brasso (5, Informative)

Twid (67847) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847428)

I got a ridiculous amount of hits to my blog posting from a couple of weeks ago [dailey.info] where I cleaned the scratches off my nano with Brasso. Actually, I got the idea [slashdot.org] from the original slashdot thread on the nano scratching issues.

My take: the nano doesn't scratch more than a normal iPod, but it's so small that you're tempted to pocket it, causing more scratches than you would get in the un-pocketable full-size iPods. I see that with the new iPods w/video Apple is now including a *really* basic (fabric?) case. Maybe that was a response to all the talk about the nano. I do think that the nano needs some sort of screen protector or case in order to stay scratch free. I made mine from some old PDA screen protectors.

Re:I removed my scratches w/Brasso (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847618)

" I got a ridiculous amount of hits to my blog posting from a couple of weeks ago where I cleaned the scratches off my nano with Brasso"

Just don't polish with Brasso too often, or you'll end up without a casing at all.

Thanks Apple! (1)

Work Account (900793) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847429)

I just want to say "thanks" to Apple for having the guts to continue innovating and doing what was previously unthinkable -- reaching deals with music and entertainment industry to change the way consumers use entertainment media FOREVER.

The Nano may have a defect or two, but it is still an extremely good product that I'm proud to own.

So, again, in the midst of all this negativity, just an honest heartfelt thanks for the job Jobs has done these past few years.

Thanks Apple!

Do they even claim it's scratch-resistant? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847442)

I took a quick look through the product page for the Nano and I didn't see any mention of it.

Battery (3, Interesting)

rlp (11898) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847466)

I'd be more concerned with the fact that the battery is soldered onto the unit! Of course, before the rechargable battery's worn out, you'll buy the IPod Pico ... and a magnifying glass.

Personal responsibility (2, Interesting)

HarvardFrankenstein (635329) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847488)

People really could stand to take better care of their stuff. I've had a 4G iPod for more than a year now, and there are hardly any scratches on it at all. It's simply a matter of being responsible and not tossing your precious electronic devices into a pile of nails and scorpions. In my opinion, this lawsuit is ridiculous and should be thrown out.

TROLlKORE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847504)

Another charnel with any sort has> been my only Task. Research Series of exploding Do, and with any perspective, the

It's a little more serious than it sounds. (1, Insightful)

Dixie Flatliner (850959) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847514)

Very soft felt, the kind you'd use to clean the most delicate of surfaces leaves damage on Nano's that looks like what would happen if you rubbed it on a slightly sandy floor, and it permanently obscures the screen, so I'd say it was an issue.

A little ingenuity (2, Interesting)

mks180 (442267) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847530)

I got my nano a few weeks ago, and managed to avoid all problems with screen scratches by using a screen protector bought for my palm pilot. I had to trim the protector to fit on the nano, but it's barely noticeable that it's on there and I have not had a single scratch on the screen.

True, I shouldn't have to do that; maybe Apple should have used a better material for the screen. In the end I see this as another frivolous lawsuit that's destroying this country.

HAHAHAHAHHAA (-1, Troll)

James A. Y. Joyce (877365) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847531)

That's what you get for being dumb enough to buy one of those pieces of shit. I hope their fuckwit suit gets thrown out of court.

Sounds like a job for capitalism (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847536)

Does the law even need to get involved in this? I do not own an iPod nano, so I cannot comment on the validity of the claim. But assuming that the screens are crap and are more easily scratched than they should be, isn't this problem easily fixable by capitalism?

If your product is less than satisfactory, your sales suffer, and you're punished by lower revenue than expected. Isn't it just that simple? As a consumer, it's your responsibility to know what you're spending your money on. If it's a crappy product, and you choose to purchase it, it's your fault.

In other news (1)

melted (227442) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847549)

McDonalds corporation has been sued because people who eat quarter pounders three times a day get fat.

Oh, wait. This happened already.

Seriously, people. Just don't put your nanos in your pocket along with the car keys and you'll be fine. I hope plaintiffs get their ass handed to them by Apple lawyers.

Some thoughts.... (4, Insightful)

8127972 (73495) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847552)

OMFG! Where do I begin?

1. Every iPod I own has gotten scratches.
2. If you don't like scratches, get a case.
3. If you already have scratches, try Brasso [dailey.info] or iCleaner [ipodcleaner.com]. I've tried both and they work well.

Bottom line, scratches are the responsiblity of the owner. GM won't replace your car if YOU scratch it, so why should Apple pay up if your iPod gets scratched. Meaning that if you own an iPod Nano, it's YOUR fault that you have scratches. Please deal with it in a way that does not involve the justice system as it is NOT their problem.

Apple's Fault! Apple's Fault! (5, Informative)

GiSqOd (793295) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847595)

Clearly, Apple should have provided guidelines to help keep everyone's iPod Nanos from getting scratched. I guess it falls to me to provide this valuable public service:

1. Do not keep iPod Nano in the same pocket as your keys.
2. Do not run over iPod Nano with your car: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/3 [arstechnica.com].
3. Do not use iPod Nano to scratch off your lottery tickets. Invest in a quarter, instead.
4. Do not keep iPod Nano in the same pocket as your keys, dumbass: http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/tombstone/839/ show/70's_badluck.wav [fortunecity.com].
5. Do not gnaw nervously on iPod Nano.

and finally...

6. Maybe think about investing in a $20 ultra-thin case for iPod Nano: http://www.speckproducts.com/nano-skintight.html [speckproducts.com].

FWIW, in my experience, there are two kinds of people in this world. Those who know how to take care of personal electronics and those who casually throw their new toys in with their spare change. I've had the same iPod for almost 2.5 years now. Still runs fine, still without scratches, and I've taken it jogging, biking, to work, to the bathroom, across state lines, etc. I guess some people just can't have nice things.

Just in... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13847614)

Car Dents Result in Suit

People who drive their new cars on the road have begun filing class action lawsuits against major automotive companies such as Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota and Honda claiming that their vehicles are getting damaged when getting into accidents. Ford has responded by saying, "Well, maybe if these idiots knew how to drive without hitting things..."

At least it still works (3, Insightful)

carambola5 (456983) | more than 8 years ago | (#13847633)

Complaining about a few scratches?!? How about running over it twice with a car [nyud.net] and still playing music on it?

People are being too obsessive about the "status" the iPod gives the owner, and not realizing that it's a damn solid product.
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