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Velociraptor Bad At Disemboweling

Zonk posted about 9 years ago | from the illusions-shattered dept.

Robotics 298

illtron writes "British scientists at the University of Manchester were apparently bored and decided to find out, once and for all, if the Velociraptor was as mean as Jurassic Park would like everyone to think. They created a robotic Velociraptor leg to simulate the effect that leg would have on pig and crocodile skin. It turns out that disemboweling a dino probably would have been out of the question, since the best that big claw could do was usually just to leave a deep puncture." From the article: "I realized that the sick-claw was not a knife, but was rather more like the claw of a cat. Cats use their claws to pierce and hold prey, not to disembowel. Whereas my work was mostly theoretical, Phil took one step farther as he was given the opportunity to mechanically test the disemboweling hypothesis. His work is very important,"

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Obligatory Jurrasic Park (the Movie) refference. (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850188)

KSHAAAAAAAAAW!

Aaaaaaaaaaugh!

GNARFGNARF!

Kssssssssssssss!

SPLURT

Word, folks... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850431)

Another of Zonks fabulous non-stories edited while fucking some underage boi on the kitchen floor of his parents house. Bravo.

Re:Obligatory Jurrasic Park (the Movie) refference (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850507)

Does this mean that in a fight, the lawyer might win? Noooooooooo!

That's when the attack comes... (5, Funny)

Cruithne (658153) | about 9 years ago | (#13850191)

... from the other two raptors you didnt even know were there. And they DO have disembowling claws, unlike this obvious decoy.

Re:That's when the attack comes... (1, Funny)

slashname3 (739398) | about 9 years ago | (#13850414)

.. from the other two raptors you didnt even know were there. And they DO have disembowling claws, unlike this obvious decoy.

Actually the other two carried AK-47s. At least until the anti-gun lobby got laws passed to ban those weapons. That was shortly before they all went extinct. No way to protect themselves from the mammals who still carried automatic weapons.

I nominate this... (1)

DrEldarion (114072) | about 9 years ago | (#13850194)

... for next year's IgNobel prize.

Re:I nominate this... (3, Funny)

phasm42 (588479) | about 9 years ago | (#13850222)

"His work is very important"
Hmmm...

Re:I nominate this... (1)

ratnerstar (609443) | about 9 years ago | (#13850563)

He's also the best paleontologist ever -- deserving of great respect.

Re:I nominate this... (5, Funny)

Seumas (6865) | about 9 years ago | (#13850279)

What a waste of scientific effort. This was so obvious in the first place. Of course they suck at disemboweling. Even if they had the strength and accuracy to hurl the ball down the lane and knock all the pins over, how the hell would those tiny little arms hold the ball?

Darn you scientists. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850195)

Always challenging our deeply cherished beliefs.

Who needs them scientists any how, eh guys? EH?!?

Re:Darn you scientists. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850241)

It's scientifically very important to scientifically demonstrate that a non-scientific Hollywood screenwriter isn't as smart as a scientificist.

Next experiment... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850251)

make a robotic "Dino" from the Flintstones, and see if it really just licks Fred Flintstone when he comes home, or really tears out a big chunk of his jugular vein.

kudos (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850202)

Good thing they originally called them "velociraptors" and not "disembowelraptors".

65 Million Years Later ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850205)

Taco Bell Burrito deemed best at disemboweling.

PHEAR THE CLAW (1)

Placebo Messiah (895157) | about 9 years ago | (#13850207)

Needs more laserbeam

Raptors suck at disemboweling... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850211)

Netcraft confirms it.

very important work (-1, Troll)

aeoo (568706) | about 9 years ago | (#13850214)

Yes, without this work the humanity will take two steps backward.

What I do is very important too. I am an important person, because I am my favorite person.

A Prayer to My God (3, Funny)

Seumas (6865) | about 9 years ago | (#13850252)

Dear God,

Today, I read a story about scientists creating a robotic velociraptor leg to see how well it could gut certain animals. What I don't understand is, why do we not know more about dinosaurs without having to go through such extensive research? My pastor told us that the Bible teaches that the world is only a few thousand years old, which must mean that men and dinosaurs lived alongside one another (perhaps Jesus even rode a triceritops?). If that is the case, then why isn't dinosaur behavior and activity a matter of written record?

Yours Truly,

Johnny Christian.

Mod up (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850380)

Mod up. Funny.

Re:A Prayer to My God (0)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | about 9 years ago | (#13850405)

Mod up. Insightful.

Re:A Prayer to My God (1)

aeoo (568706) | about 9 years ago | (#13850448)

Haha.. very funny. Of course, while I have no hatred for a theistic viewpoint, I am not, strictly speaking, a theist. What I was trying to say there, has nothing to do with religion, but oh well. If some Christians happen to agree with my off-hand remark, that's wonderful. :)

I have no hostility toward any group and no sentimental love either. What drove me to make that comment is my feeling on how self-serving and self-obsessed we are (and I include myself into this mess too). Scientists are just as "impure" and self-serving, greedy, and ignorant as even the most hardened superstitious religious zealot. I only see a differense in appearance between the scientific zealots and the religious ones, and not a differense in substance.

Who is zealot? A zealot is someone who refuses to be critised in good spirit. A zealot is someone who cannot laugh at themselves. Guess what? Scientists take themselves so freaking seriously and are SOOO unable to laugh at their pursuits, as a group. They are very offended when criticised and they look down on anyone who doesn't worship science as the "ignorant masses". Too bad, because they fit under the zealot definition in my book. Of course, I have the same thing to say about religious zealots and any other kinds of zealots.

Re:A Prayer to My God (3, Insightful)

Scratch-O-Matic (245992) | about 9 years ago | (#13850537)

I haven't studied the issue, but I feel like your generalization of scientists is wrong. Most good scientists welcome the chance to be proven wrong...that's what peer review is all about, and why scientists have such confidence in properly derived conclusions. If they look down on anyone who doesn't "worship science," it's most likely because the conclusions drawn by those people are NOT replicable and have NOT been subjected to real peer review--which is why such conclusions fail to convince those who understand (not "worship") the scientific process.

Re:very important work (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 9 years ago | (#13850285)

[shrug] You either get why pure knowledge is important, or you don't. If you don't, no explanation anyone can give is going to help.

Re:very important work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850375)

it's something to talk about at parties and allows you to rack up lots of points at trivial pursuit.

Re:very important work (-1, Offtopic)

aeoo (568706) | about 9 years ago | (#13850415)

How can you tell pure knowledge from impure?

Re:very important work (0, Offtopic)

ikkonoishi (674762) | about 9 years ago | (#13850512)

Give it one of these [armory.com] .

Now we know why they are extinct (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850316)

I don't think Noah would have wanted these guy in his ark!

Unconvincing (3, Insightful)

geordieboy (515166) | about 9 years ago | (#13850215)

It seems possible their methodology and conclusions are flawed. If you saw away at a large chunk of meat with a small but sharp knife you can make a deep wound. Why do they assume the raptor attacks in a short stabbing motion? What about other modes of attack their "robotic arm" doesn't simulate?

Re:Unconvincing (1)

Helios1182 (629010) | about 9 years ago | (#13850309)

It would be my assumption that when attacking another animal the raptor would not slash and make a deep puncture wound, then saw back and forth to gut the animal. Most animals would run away or fight back.

Re:Unconvincing (3, Interesting)

geordieboy (515166) | about 9 years ago | (#13850370)

You're probably right that a sawing motion is not practical in an attack. But more generally, I'm not sure exactly why it is useful to build a robot arm to do their demonstration. Wouldn't a few minutes experimentation with a sharp piece of bone and a lump of meat achieve the same, and probably give you more insight about the specific types of movement you can use to cause damage than just manipulating this simplistic arm? I suspect they used the arm to lend some extra perceived scientific flavor to their observations. It's an experiment with a *robot*, so it must be right.

Re:Unconvincing (3, Informative)

kfg (145172) | about 9 years ago | (#13850439)

If you saw away at a large chunk of meat with a small but sharp knife you can make a deep wound.

Try "sawing away" at something, anything, with an awl. The whole point here is that a velociraptor claw is not a sharp knife, but a pointy stick.

You can make a wound as deep as the "hilt", but no "longer" than the diameter of the claw.

KFG

Re:Unconvincing (1)

Scratch-O-Matic (245992) | about 9 years ago | (#13850488)

I suspect this is related to a show I saw recently...I don't specifically remember if it was the Discovery Channel but it probably was. The show featured simulations of various "animal vs. animal" fights, to see who would win. It was mildly amusing, in a Mythbusters sort of way, but I remember thinking at the time that the methodology and assumptions seemed bogus. Science-wise, it seemed about as valid as a middle school science fair project. For example, the one I saw had two animals facing off with each other, but standing more or less stationary. In other words, it was a test of penetration, cutting, and crushing, without taking into account mobility, intelligence, and will. To top it off, they would just examine the damage after each trial, and declare, "Yup, that would have killed him," or, "Nope, that wouldn't have killed him."

Furthermore, if this experiment was conducted in the course of making a show for Discovery, I find it questionable that they didn't mention that in the article in Discovery News.

Re:Unconvincing (1)

ikkonoishi (674762) | about 9 years ago | (#13850531)

I remember the one they did trying to find out why sabertooth tigers had their fangs.

Eventually they discovered that it used them to sever the jugular of its prey in one bite.

Who care about TFA (4, Insightful)

zappepcs (820751) | about 9 years ago | (#13850221)

Just how cool is it to be paid to test "stuff" like that?

Fsck! I need a job like that!

Re:Who care about TFA (1)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | about 9 years ago | (#13850443)

Did you see the National Geographic Channel thing about sabre-tooth tigers? They had a (metal) simulated hydraulic sabre-tooth jaw (on the end of a small backhoe) chomping into a cow carcass jugular. They're jabbering about foor-pounds per square centimeter, depths of arteries, length of teeth, and flow rates from buffalo hearts, and I'm screaming "What a cool job!!!". Amazing 3-D compu-cartoons based on skeletal dimensions, etc. - highly recommended.

It's not cool when... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850470)

you're the taxpayer or student footing the bill for this crap.

Re:Who care about TFA (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | about 9 years ago | (#13850519)

Just how cool is it to be paid to test "stuff" like that?

Fsck! I need a job like that!


You can contact www.discovery.com and search for the Animal Faceoff show. Requirements: Very good knowledge of hydraulics, zoology, physics, materials dynamics, physical simulations on computers, etc. etc.

So *AHEM* you were saying?

So they were worse than in Jussasic Park (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850223)

They joyfully toy with their prey before killing it and proudly bringing it back to the master's front door.

Remember, in 2008! (1)

Seumas (6865) | about 9 years ago | (#13850227)

Robo-Raptor for President!

Re:Remember, in 2008! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850300)

I, for one, welcome our new raptor overlords!

Re:Remember, in 2008! (2, Funny)

bersl2 (689221) | about 9 years ago | (#13850399)

You need ask yourself only one question:

What Would Raptor Jesus Do?

Re:Remember, in 2008! (1)

bladesjester (774793) | about 9 years ago | (#13850458)

Eat all of the unbelievers (and anyone else close/slow/stupid enough to get caught by him)?

Re:Remember, in 2008! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850486)

RJWRTF[AM]

Cats don't disembowel? (5, Funny)

Matey-O (518004) | about 9 years ago | (#13850231)

"I realized that the sick-claw was not a knife, but was rather more like the claw of a cat. Cats use their claws to pierce and hold prey, not to disembowel.
He's obviously never had a catnipped-up cat grab a hold of his forearm with the front claws and use it's back legs to scrape the everlovincrap out of him.

Re:Cats don't disembowel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850254)

A cat immobilized your forearm? Man up, Nancy :P

Re:Cats don't disembowel? (1)

discordja (612393) | about 9 years ago | (#13850318)

Ya, I was always of the impression (I have no formal knowledge of the feline species beyond the one actively declaring ownership of the recliner atm) that cats latch with their fronts and drive with their back legs slicing. Now in fairness, considering raptor frontals would (likely) not have the same kind of usage as a cats forepaws, we may just be derailing this topic for the sake of talking about cats! :D

Re:Cats don't disembowel? (1)

MadAhab (40080) | about 9 years ago | (#13850345)

Nor had the heart and feet of a velociraptor's prey left at the foot-end of his bed after every other part of the victim was eaten )emboweled or disemboweled).

Re:Cats don't disembowel? (3, Informative)

commodoresloat (172735) | about 9 years ago | (#13850438)

I recall a long time ago seeing one of those "animals attack" shows and it showed some sort of big cat attacking a much larger prey by running alongside it and pouncing on its belly from underneath and using its legs in a manner similar to what is described above. That sucker was disemboweled, that's for sure.

Re:Cats don't disembowel? (1)

DwarfGoanna (447841) | about 9 years ago | (#13850474)

You got modded Funny, but this is actually pretty Insightful (or at least Interesting) =p. I'm going to assume you are talking about a regular domestic cat. I have a Bengal cat, and let me assure you, its serious shit when he does this. I also keep reptiles, which leads me to wonder why pig skin is supposed to be analogous to dino skin.


Hang on...I'm going to try something...=p

Re:Cats don't disembowel? (1)

DwarfGoanna (447841) | about 9 years ago | (#13850508)

...and yes, I also caught the thing about croc skin as well. Again, why? Not only are crocodiles and herbivorous dinos entirely different lineages, but they also occupied entirely different niches. Skin type varies dramatically from one species of reptile to the next. A scale is not always just a scale.

Umm kay (1)

OverlordQ (264228) | about 9 years ago | (#13850232)

They used a reconstructed claw, let me see a test with a real claw and then get back to me. As much as they'd like to say it couldn't happen, unless they use the real deal, take the results with a grain of salt :)

Umm kay-A Salting Peter. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850283)

"... unless they use the real deal, take the results with a grain of salt :)"

Salting wounds? Awful harsh aren't we?

I for one, (0)

ElNerdoJorge (923041) | about 9 years ago | (#13850243)

Welcome our puncturing clawed velociraptor overlords.

Re:I for one, (1)

HoneyBunchesOfGoats (619017) | about 9 years ago | (#13850262)

Puncturing-clawed robot velociraptor overlords.

From TFA... (4, Funny)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | about 9 years ago | (#13850256)

"Our study shows that the claw was used as a climbing crampon. It allowed the dromaeosaurs to hook themselves on to the flanks of their prey: when the prey turned, so too was the attacker," Manning told Discovery News. He continued in a puzzlingly forced manner, "Yes. We truly have nothing at all to fear from what I am sure are very friendly dinosaurs. We should trust that any dinosaur attacks are certainly not imminent. Nothing to fear whatsoever."

Questioned on the claw marks in his back, Manning replied, "What? Oh that. Yes. Haha. Silly me, I must have walked into a door. Yes. Nothing to fear whatsoever."

Re:From TFA... (2, Funny)

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Re:From TFA... (1)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | about 9 years ago | (#13850502)

Women's hygiene products? Man, you're peddling your wares on the wrong site. Unless... Oh you people sicken me!

Chaos Theory (2, Funny)

EdwinBoyd (810701) | about 9 years ago | (#13850266)

"Sure your scientists set up this elaborate demonstration because they could but they never stopped to think if they should!!!"

Also why is it every time a paragraph ends with "This is very important" usually isn't at all?

Re:Chaos Theory (1)

lionheart1327 (841404) | about 9 years ago | (#13850476)

Boogedy boo. This is very important!

Hey, you're right.

Please pardon my cynicism (4, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | about 9 years ago | (#13850270)

"I realized that the sick-claw was not a knife, but was rather more like the claw of a cat. Cats use their claws to pierce and hold prey, not to disembowel."

Right now I'm sitting here with a 2 inch long scratch on my tum... uh.. stom.. uh.. crap factory because last night my clutzy-ass-cat took a swipe at the cord to my sweat pants.

Re:Please pardon my cynicism (1)

Seumas (6865) | about 9 years ago | (#13850311)

Stop whining - it could have been a lot worse!

Re:Please pardon my cynicism (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850340)

So you rubbed your balls in catnip again, did you?

Where's the foot? (1)

Mr_eX9 (800448) | about 9 years ago | (#13850280)

I know this is a serious story, but this is easily the most hilarious one that's been posted all week.

"Velociraptor Bad at Disemboweling." I mean come on.

yeah, um (1)

ZachPruckowski (918562) | about 9 years ago | (#13850287)

Not gonna lie. "Bored Scientists" isn't quite as interesting as "Bored Sorority Girls" or whatever. Seriously, why would anyone do this? I mean, if I donated to their organization, I'd stop the checks. Go cure cancer or something.

**Wild mood swing brought on by caffeine**

Re:yeah, um (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | about 9 years ago | (#13850304)

Oh, for God's sake. This is excellent science; it's very rare that scientists in an observational science (such as paleontology) get the chance to do such elegant experimental work, and they should be applauded for finding a way to do so.

Re:yeah, um (1)

ZachPruckowski (918562) | about 9 years ago | (#13850442)

Yes, I understand that, but "British scientists at the University of Manchester were apparently bored and decided to find out, once and for all, if the Velociraptor was as mean as Jurassic Park would like everyone to think." doesn't really do it as a motivation to do research for me. Obviously, this was a joke, and shouldn't be taken seriously, just like my post.

Not to mention, it's sort of hard to say what a real raptor did by using a robotic model based on what we assume is the correct muscle structure based off of bones. In seriousness, I've been reading about robotic models and AIs, and they tend to come up with "unique" solutions to problems (which is good in my opinion). In this case, I'm not going to fund (if I had money) something that seems overly hypothetical. I mean, if they cloned a dinosaur to find out...

Re:yeah, um (5, Funny)

The Amazing Fish Boy (863897) | about 9 years ago | (#13850362)

Go cure cancer or something.

Uh huh. Look, I'll be honest with you. I'm not sure paleontologists are able to cure cancer. I know. It comes as a shock to most people. We've all heard the tired old argument that dinosaurs died from cancer, and that the cure to cancer is in their magical dinosaur bones, but I just don't buy it. And frankly until someone proves it, I don't think much effort is going to be put into forcing paleontologists by whip and chain to cure cancer. I'm sorry that you had to hear this from me.

Re:yeah, um (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850406)

Sir, I congratulate you. This was a burn of epic proportions. Indeed, I dub thee Captain Burns of the USS Starship Hot.

Re:yeah, um (1)

QuantumG (50515) | about 9 years ago | (#13850543)

I think the grandparent post was actually suggesting that palentology itself is a big waste of time. As such, all I can say is thank god we live in a free society where scientists are not forced to work on what is considered "most useful" by the powers that be.

If Edsger W. Dijkstra wrote the headline... (2, Funny)

Saberwind (50430) | about 9 years ago | (#13850295)

"Velociraptor Considered Harmless"

Re:If Edsger W. Dijkstra wrote the headline... (1)

spudwiser (124577) | about 9 years ago | (#13850461)

mostly harmless

Geek Fight (1, Insightful)

eluusive (642298) | about 9 years ago | (#13850297)

"His work is very important,"
I fail to see how it's important what a dinosaur did period. Great it punctured, big deal, they aren't around now anyways. This is about as important as two geeks debating spiderman vs batman who would win?

Re:Geek Fight (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850330)

Batman

Re:Geek Fight (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850384)

Spiderman!

Re:Geek Fight (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850477)

I agree. Definitely Spiderman.

Oblig. PA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850535)

Van Helsing! [penny-arcade.com]

Re:Geek Fight (1)

TheGilmanator (745322) | about 9 years ago | (#13850516)

It's not like that sentence was sarcasm or anything.

I bet it is! (2, Funny)

Joe Ego (53541) | about 9 years ago | (#13850298)

"His work is very important,"

They must know something we don't: such as when they're planning on turning Euro-Disney into Jurrasic Park.

His Work Is Very Important (4, Funny)

Greyfox (87712) | about 9 years ago | (#13850303)

Because now we all know that the next time we encounter a velociraptor we do not have to fear disemboweling. You would not believe how many nights this has kept me up...

Bio-CAD (1)

six11 (579) | about 9 years ago | (#13850307)

It's weird to see this on Slashdot, because I was researching "bio-CAD" about a month ago. The BC guys are not the only ones working on this sort of thing. For example: researchers at Buffalo [buffalo.edu] are working on a similar problem.

Bio-CAD is an interesting field. You can use modeling or reconstruction of what you think an organism was like, and you can sometimes come to a conclusion that doesn't support the currently accepted theory of how something worked. The dromaeosaurs (velociraptor and friends) were among the smartest dinosaurs (as determined by the brain cavity's size). So if they were also capable of taking down larger dinosaurs by means of disembowelment (ant waiting for them to die), this means they have less reason to hunt in packs. But if they can't take down a big game as individuals, they may have had reason to work together. Now, I'm not a paleontologist, so I may have the story wrong here. But the basic idea is that you can use modeling and replication as a way to support or contradict other theories (which we can't directly measure).

Claws hold the government teat while suckling (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 9 years ago | (#13850322)

Boy, silly me, I went to school to be an engineer, and spent countless thousands of dollars and 6 years of my life doing so. These guys get to play with dinosaur bones, fly all over the world looking at rocks, play with synthetic dinosaur claw machines, and don't ever have to make a penny. After doing this for many years, they'll retire on a fat taxpayer funded pension.

I guess I'm the sucker.

Re:Claws hold the government teat while suckling (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850393)

suck to be you, troll.

Sounds even Meaner to Me!! (1)

logicnazi (169418) | about 9 years ago | (#13850365)

I don't know about anyone else but I think I would prefer to be disembowled rather than pinned with a claw. Sure disembowling is visually shocking and likely doesn't feel to pleasent it sounds a damn sight better than benning held pinned with a sharp claw while being eaten.

I mean have you ever seen a cat play with a mouse? It isn't always a quick death. Also if the example of big cats is any guide it doesn't mean it couldn't take down bigger animals either.

Obligatory joke (1)

Kombat (93720) | about 9 years ago | (#13850368)

I realized that the sick-claw was not a knife, but was rather more like the claw of a cat. Cats use their claws to pierce and hold prey, not to disembowel

Sounds like my ex-wife.

*buh-dum-ching!*

Cats use their claws to pierce and hold prey, not (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850379)

>> Cats use their claws to pierce and hold prey, not to disembowel.

Yeah, well they also use antigens in their saliva to incapacitate the male of the human species with convulsive sneezing, watery eyes, scratchy throat, and perpetually runny nose. If it weren't for cats there wouldn't be half as many single female homo sapiens as there are now.

velociraptors suck (3, Funny)

minus_273 (174041) | about 9 years ago | (#13850389)

Deinonychus would kick thier ass any day!

shit did i say that out loud..

Evil Disemboweling Kitty Cats (2, Insightful)

PresidentEnder (849024) | about 9 years ago | (#13850398)

Has anyone ever been disemboweled by a cat? This thread has several mentions of how a cat scratched the poster, but never of how a cat disemboweled them. My cat has never disemboweled me. If we take this further (anything that can scratch can disebowel), I've had a nasty scratch or two courtesy of a nail (or two), but if you threatened to disembowel me with one, I'd laugh. I may receive a nasty puncture wound or two courtesy of your nail, but I'd laugh.

Re:Evil Disemboweling Kitty Cats (1)

TheLoneDanger (611268) | about 9 years ago | (#13850509)

I would imagine that if a cat (say a tiger, a large cat, but a cat nonetheless) disemboweled someone, they wouldn't be here to talk about it. A velociraptor was a fair amount bigger than a housecat.

Re:Evil Disemboweling Kitty Cats (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850567)

Anyone? As in a person? Maybe not, but bigger cats in the wild do disembowl large prey with their rear claws. Domestic cats still have the instinct but rarely go after big enough prey to require disembowling.

Generally speaking I have only seen cats disembowl if the prey is a lot larger than the cat.

They do in fact use their claws for disembowling so these "scientists" are idiots.

The movie was wrong? (1)

Pneuma ROCKS (906002) | about 9 years ago | (#13850422)

So, does that mean that San José, Costa Rica is not a beach after all?

In Other News... (1)

Eradicator2k3 (670371) | about 9 years ago | (#13850424)

- Velociraptor bad at being snuggly pet.
- Velociraptor bad at Survivor immunity challenges.
- Velociraptor bad at surviving mass extinctions.
- Velociraptor bad at playing the good guy, just for once, in a movie

To summarize: Velociraptor BAD!!!!

DOH... (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | about 9 years ago | (#13850444)

What about their JAWS?

More Insteresting 10 Days Ago (1)

nuance9 (713164) | about 9 years ago | (#13850452)

News as old as dinosaurs? BBC [bbc.co.uk] carried this story 10 days ago. I guess that isn't quite as old as dinosaurs. Of course, that supposing that dinosaurs aren't still alive on the bottom of the ocean.

Crocodile skin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 years ago | (#13850459)

Last time I checked, birds were a lot closer to most dinosaurs than crocs evolutionarily--and gutting a chicken would not have been challenging for that machine.

As I expected all along (1)

drzolo (760845) | about 9 years ago | (#13850464)

"... It turns out that disemboweling a dino probably would have been out of the question, since the best that big claw could do was usually just to leave a deep puncture" I knew it!! Haha, who is laughing now?....

I remember watching Jurassic Park (3, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | about 9 years ago | (#13850492)

and thinking I could kick the shit out of one of those Velociraptors. They're short, they have short little arms and these long ineffectual tails and they can't turn their heads more than 80 degrees to the left or right. Not to mention the fact that they have poor peripherial vision and can't recognise stationary objects. In particular, when the kids ran into the computer room and hid, thinking the raptors couldn't open the door, but they did, the kids could have kept low, circled around, jumped on the raptor's tail and kicked it in the spine.. it'd be snappin' at em but as long as you stay behind it you'll be fine.. then you could do a wind choke on its prehistoric neck or just snap it Bruce Lee style.

That's why I really liked Pitch Black. Instead of pitting blood hungry monsters against helpless little kids, they threw in a bad ass human to take em on and, unlike the useless soldiers in Aliens, he actually put up a fight!

Snuggle-Saurus! (3, Funny)

damned_mediocrity (923503) | about 9 years ago | (#13850538)

From TFA: The Velociraptor dinosaur... was not as vicious as portrayed. On the contrary, it embraced its victims before its razor sharp teeth went to work...

Awww, look. He wants to hug me!

Definition of Disembowel (2, Informative)

krunk4ever (856261) | about 9 years ago | (#13850561)

For those, or maybe it's just me, that didn't know the definition (for some reason I thought it had to do with digestion)

Disembowelment is evisceration, or the removing of vital organs, usually from the abdomen. The results are invariably fatal. It has historically been used as a form of capital punishment.

So, I'm guessing from that post and the definition, disembowelment is when the velociraptor sliced you in the stomach, so your guts spill out, which they're claiming here is untrue.

Yet again scientist realize (3, Interesting)

Xiph (723935) | about 9 years ago | (#13850564)

that Hollywood movies don't always get their facts right. It reminds me of the roaring fast-running t-rex which couldn't see stuff when it was standing still. I can understand that Hollywood needs to come up with these things, if something haven't been studied thoroughly. What i don't understand is why we bother reading about whether this uninteresting tidbit of information is true, for the whenever it's been part of a movie.

Now let me see if I've got this tight... (1)

gone_bush (578354) | about 9 years ago | (#13850566)

...use their claws to pierce and hold prey, not to disembowel

So I wont be disembowelled before the beastie eats me. That's reassuring. Not!

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