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Bland ambition? (4, Funny)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891149)

The head of the software giant told the BBC that its ambition is to be bigger than Google in search

Yeah, and my ambition is to be an astronaut-playboy-robot-vampire that fights crime and plays lead guitar in his own thrash metal band on the weekends, but I don't think my ambition is terribly realistic either.

Re:Bland ambition? (3, Interesting)

Eberlin (570874) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891304)

Granted that unrealistic ambition goes nowhere, and yes we're all detractors of the borg here, but there are enough decision makers out there that will buy into the hype. "Oooh, microsoft is down right now but that just means they're going to come back in a big way. They always do."

If Bill Gates says that HIS ambition would be to be an "astronaut-playboy-robot-vampire that fights crime and plays lead guitar in his own thrash metal band on the weekends" I think he just might have the resources to do it.

As for going with something bigger than Google search, it might be unlikely because of their corporate culture and how they just don't "get it" -- but that doesn't mean Google shouldn't rest on their laurels lest we forget the follies of Netscape. GOOG: defend the lead, extend the lead...and do no evil. :)

Re:Bland ambition? (4, Interesting)

IWantMoreSpamPlease (571972) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891340)

>>I think he just might have the resources to do it.

He may have the resources, but he'll never have the talent.

Re:Bland ambition? (2, Interesting)

EnderWiggnz (39214) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891376)

which is kindof sad, as ms used to be the place where all the talent went.

they dont gots it anymore.

Re:Bland ambition? (-1, Troll)

peragrin (659227) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891362)

>>If Bill Gates says that HIS ambition would be to be an "astronaut-playboy-robot-vampire that fights crime and plays lead guitar in his own thrash metal band on the weekends" I think he just might have the resources to do it.

If Bill Gates has enough money to create a real vampire then why doesn't he have enough money to make Windows stable? It takes more than money and an Idea to solve a problem. it takes creativity. MSFT employes smart people, but they aren't let loose to create things.

Re:Bland ambition? (1)

eggoeater (704775) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891317)

...astronaut-playboy-robot-vampire... fights crime...plays lead guitar in his own thrash metal band on the weekends
Sounds like the making of the next /. poll....
My blind ambition is....

It'll never catch on... (5, Funny)

Jesselnz (866138) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891153)

Telling someone to Microsoft for the answer just doesn't sound the same as googling for it...

Re:It'll never catch on... (0, Troll)

Bloggins (783115) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891199)

Ya, I just spend 4 hours trying to find answers for a microsoft problem, they have a great search capability..not

Re:It'll never catch on... (5, Funny)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891212)

Yeah. Googling for something is to search for it, but microsofting something is, well, lets just say anally painful...

Re:It'll never catch on... (4, Insightful)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891255)


That's because you usually get the problem via Microsoft, and the answer via Google. ^_^

TRIPMASTER MONKEY WHORES AGAIN (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891283)

Shut the fuck up, you completely unfunny son of a Jobs.

How about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891380)

..just tell people to search for it!

WOOWHOO! (5, Insightful)

RingDev (879105) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891160)

Competition is good. Even you anti-Microsoft pundints will have to admit, this will only make Google have to work harder ;)

-Rick

Re:WOOWHOO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891266)

Even you anti-Microsoft pundints will have to admit, this will only make Google have to work harder ;)

If Microsoft actually do anything intersting with their search engine then that might make Google work harder. Bill telling us how ambitious he is doesn't help anyone. Wow, you're so ambitious Bill. Go Bill!

Re:WOOWHOO! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891334)

Bill Gates is as ambitious about as much as Republicans are for small, limited government.

Re:WOOWHOO! (5, Interesting)

utnow (808790) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891348)

for the less computer adept... having the company that "made their computer" say that their search engine is better than that college-startup named "Gafoogle" or whatever is pretty convincing. Not to mention it'll prolly be the default engine in the next version of IE and will probably search straight from the location bar. Google may be better, but MSN search is nothing to scoff at. I think they'll have their work cut out for them if they want to stay on top of the popularity curve.

Re:WOOWHOO! (5, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891312)

Competition is good. I am just not sure Microsoft understands the area they are trying to overtake. Hotmail is a really good example -- they bought hotmail and for quite some time never really knew what they wanted to do with it. In the end, I don't think it gave them much of anything.

In this case, they can't buy Google (did I just say that?) so they will try to 'compete' in an area where they just aren't prepared. They lack the culture to really do anything like that from what I can see. Google's way is really like an amoeba... little projects everywhere -- the good ones grow and fill with resources, the others disappear. Microsoft's is just a bit too carnivorous and aggressive by comparison.

Re:WOOWHOO! (1)

aurb (674003) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891329)

...Google have to work harder

Oh, those capitalist exploiters! Harder, more, better... Think of the poor pigeons [google.com]...

Competition is good (4, Insightful)

amightywind (691887) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891338)

Competition is good. Even you anti-Microsoft pundints will have to admit, this will only make Google have to work harder ;)

Sure. If Microsoft had the reputation for being a fair competitor I would agree with you. My guess is that they will resort to their traditional sleezy tactics to impede Google and flog an inferior search capability using monopoly assets (like IE, Windows, Office, MSN). Microsoft is now firing at random. They are clearly off balance.

Re:WOOWHOO! (5, Insightful)

Pxtl (151020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891403)

Yes, but Microsoft does not have to compete - Google must show a profit in their endeavors, while MS can burn cash while living off of their OS and Office revenues.

For example, Microsoft search can be adless (or charge less for ads) and hyperfast thanks a server farm 100x Google's size. Hell, they can throw in prizes for prominent users, whatever. They can quite simply outspend their competators. Not saying that's what they will do, but it's what they can do. They can do so until Google no longer exists, and then they own the mindshare and can relax. They've done it before a hundred times.

Plus, they can integrate it into their ownership of the OS and browser markets.

Google has neither an endless mountain of cash, nor a 90% of the browsers, nor 90% of the desktops.

The simple fact is that MS does not have to win - they can lose, and lose by a wide margin (in terms of profits) until Google is starved out of business. And then they win anyways by default.

Re:WOOWHOO! (1)

sedyn (880034) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891411)

If google has to work harder then it's accepted that MSN is a viable alternative. That would mean that competition exists. (Paraphrased, instead of quoted for the sake of consistency)

People are anti-ms because despite the existance of all these great operating systems, we have to face facts that the average user does not see them as a viable alternative. Thus, they are, by a de facto means, stifling competition. But hey, it's not like it's their fault they are a monopoly. *end sarcasm*

So thinking about microsoft promoting competition is like hearing that a person bullying you has decided to take up martial arts. Though, don't get me wrong, I'd love for them to have a really range of products, in particular an OS. It'd do the world a lot of good.

Sounds like Microsoft (3, Insightful)

Psionicist (561330) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891162)


Sounds like Microsoft alright. They are not trying to create a better search engine, they are trying to "beat the competition". Haven't they learned yet this rarely works?

Re:Sounds like Microsoft (5, Funny)

RingDev (879105) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891215)

Err yeah, I'm sure the richest man in the world has learned all about how his 'beat the competition' business plans are doomed to fail yet again ;)

-Rick

Re:Sounds like Microsoft (1)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891220)

Seemed to work for them for quite some time now - built them quite a monopoly. I don't mean to be an ass, but just saying.

Re:Sounds like Microsoft (1)

darth_MALL (657218) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891222)

"Haven't they learned yet this rarely works?"
No kidding...just ask all those other OSes with over 80% market share...

Re:Sounds like Microsoft (1)

jiushao (898575) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891271)

It is amazing how Microsoft goes from failure to failure and yet never learns. Considering their astronomical losses the stock-holders should really drop them like a hot potato immediately.

Re:Sounds like Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891384)

I would say you are a troll, but I seriously doubt it, just a linux zelot... yeah, that is why they don't have 90+ percent of the web browser market, and about the same for desktop pc's...

huh (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891164)

figures

first

So like everything else ... (1)

petabyte (238821) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891167)

Bigger ... yes.
Better ... eh, probably not.

Re:So like everything else ... (4, Insightful)

Iriel (810009) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891275)

You're forgetting the two key features that work in tandem, thus insuring Microsoft's success in a good deal of previous ventures:

Embedded in Windows: you betcha!
Good enough: yeah...it takes too much effort to do otherwise.

The only real uncertainty is how well they can pull this off on the internet; a place which has proven to be a difficult area for MS in many ways.

Yeah? (1, Redundant)

sammy baby (14909) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891169)

Oh yeah? Well, my ambition is to lead the NBA in rebounds.

Of course, I'm 5'6" and 32 years old - not to mention pudgy and with asthma - but ambition is ambition, baby.

Basically... (4, Interesting)

sandman935 (228586) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891174)

Google is an enemy by choice. I get the impression that Google is a competitor simply because Gates thinks they are.

Is there a GoogleOS in our future?

Re:Basically... (4, Insightful)

MoonFog (586818) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891290)

Google constantly moves into new areas, they've received a solid name for themselves and outdid Microsoft (MSN) on search. I don't think it's that weird that they will "fight" Google, they see them as a threat to their position. Perhaps they really are scared that Google will officially support a Linux distro or something like that. Few companies have the money to compete with MS, they may be scared that Google will achieve just that.

Re:Basically... (1)

cnelzie (451984) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891343)

Man, that would be something else, if Google were to get behind a Linux Distribution.

    With the people they hire, can you imagine the kind of whiz-bang software (That really works!) they would add to "Google Linux" (or should it be called Googlix? ...or Goognux?)

Google is competition (0, Flamebait)

overshoot (39700) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891295)

I get the impression that Google is a competitor simply because Gates thinks they are.

Google is competition because Microsoft can't stand the idea that somehow, somewhere, there is someone in IT who doesn't bow down to Redmond five times a day.

Possibly. (1)

KitesWorld (901626) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891375)

Google could well be a competitor in that they are making software and services available that are platform independant. As they continue to do that, there are fewer 'lock-in's that microsoft can exploit to maintain it's position, and as a result it will begin losing market share. So, In a sense, Google is a competitor in that they might seriously hurt microsofts bottom line.

dfgsd (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891176)

Microsoft will assimilate everyone. Resistance is futile.

a vision through cataracts (well, he IS aging) (5, Interesting)

yagu (721525) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891182)

The article is expectedly mostly spin, but I'm surprised at how much rehash it is. Specifically:

  • Mr Gates said that the PC of today is still not the PC he dreamed about 30 years ago however, and that was a challenge he would continue to pursue.

    I think that says a lot. Computers today are astronomically more powerful than ever before which is a natural consequence of the development and maturation of electronics and transistors, etc. But, Mr. Gates and Microsoft has promised year after year the power (delivered, but not because of Microsoft) but not the ease of use.

    I do think (and of course this is just opinion) the software could have evolved much further than we see today if Microsoft hadn't been so dominant. There are/were hints of advances but often these were stunted early either by Microsoft essentially buying out companies and putting their own stamp on the technology (and sometimes actually advancing it), or by cooking up something similar and squashing the competition with price undercuts.

  • "They can do lots of things, but still you can't talk to them, and that is one of the things we will get this decade," he predicted.

    (Actually, technically, Mr. Gates is wrong here: you can talk to them. They won't do much, but you can still talk to them.)

    I saw Mr. Gates say this same thing at a Expo Keynote speech in the '90s. I said it then, I'll say it now, we'll get real speech recognition in computers sort of, but it's not clear people really want to talk to them anyway. It's mostly amazing and a little disgusting Mr. Gates gets to get away with these promises year after year. I suppose it's partially the consuming public's fault for having a collective short memory and never calling Microsoft on this.

As for Mr. Gates' prediction MS is going to be bigger than Google, uh, hello, it already is. I think this is mostly code language for what they intend (hope) to do to Google. I'm not sure MS is positioned quite as nicely this time to accomplish this.

And, finally, from the article:

"We are stronger than ever because we have a research lab in Cambridge, we have one now in China, one in India and that is where the top problems in computer science are going to be solved."

I'm not sure what Mr. Gates is implying here. But if I were on one of the U.S. campuses, I'd be pissed, and a little nervous.

Re:a vision through cataracts (well, he IS aging) (1)

commo1 (709770) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891308)

This is a good post.... someone please mod up?

"""""""""""""""""
And, finally, from the article:

        "We are stronger than ever because we have a research lab in Cambridge, we have one now in China, one in India and that is where the top problems in computer science are going to be solved."

I'm not sure what Mr. Gates is implying here. But if I were on one of the U.S. campuses, I'd be pissed, and a little nervous.
"""""""""""""""""

I think the key word here is "stronger", not better. Just because more players arrive does not make a football team better, it makes them stronger. Able to draw on another's talent that wasn't there before. Mr. Gates is a gifted spin doctor, and knows (most of the time) how not to alientate his own minions.

Re:a vision through cataracts (well, he IS aging) (1)

Soko (17987) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891360)

"They can do lots of things, but still you can't talk to them, and that is one of the things we will get this decade," he predicted.

(Actually, technically, Mr. Gates is wrong here: you can talk to them. They won't do much, but you can still talk to them.)


I disagree. I talk to mine all the time.

"Look. You know the axe near the fire escape? Good. I don't care that it's in a locked cabinet, I'll get it if needed. Blue screen again, whydon'tcha?"

Seems to work, too.

Soko

I Wonder ... (1)

MarkNijhof (926299) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891189)

... what would happen when you search for Linux ... -Mark

Re:I Wonder ... (2, Funny)

kryten_nl (863119) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891381)

Clippy: Did you mean, you would like an honest comparisson of the Linux-TCO and the "Windows Server 2007"-TCO?

Clippy will redirect you in 5 seconds, unless you click NO

[Yes] [Yup] [OK]

Translated: (3, Funny)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891196)

> People are underestimating what Microsoft is doing with search technology, says Bill Gates. The head of the software giant told the BBC that its ambition is to be bigger than Google in search.

"Whoops, here's another hot application that we didn't see coming."

Good luck... (5, Funny)

butterwise (862336) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891198)

As someone much wiser than me once said, "The day Microsoft starts making a product that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners."

Again? (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891203)

Microsoft Takes Aim at Google

Google: Like a poor marksman, Microsoft, you keep missing the target! Why don't you come down here and take of me yourself?

Microsoft: Perhaps I no longer need to try. I'll leave you as you left me. BURIED ALIVE, Buried Alive, buried alive...

Google: MIIIIIICCCCRRRROOOOSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFFTTTT!

(With apologies to Star Trek.) :-P

Guh? (1)

llZENll (545605) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891207)

Why is this even posted and how is this news or stuff that matters? Every companies ambition is to be the leader in everything they do. This just in, water is wet!

Re:Guh? (1)

MikeURL (890801) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891337)

I was thinking the same thing. I was expecting to see some detailed discussion on how, exactly, MS planes to improve on search. This article does not qualify as news that matters to anyone but Bill Gates.

We Know What Microsoft is Doing With Search... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891214)

"People are underestimating what Microsoft is doing with search technology, says Bill Gates."

This [smh.com.au] is what Microsoft does with search technology, or at least what it plans on doing with it.

Hey, one of us had to make the obvious, yet obligatory, joke.

Censorship (2, Funny)

FidelCatsro (861135) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891223)

"its ambition is to be bigger than Google in search. ""
Which was the BBC Censored version of..

Gates: We will take them down and destroy their families and friends ,Google prepare for a smack-down

Ballmer:THEY ARE GOING DOWN ..OH YEAH . Were going to fucking bury them ..BALLMER SMASH BALLMER SMASH

Gates : yeah , See you on RAW .. Google your title reign is over

Ballmer : *Smashes interviewer over the head with a chair* DEVELOPER DEVELOPER DEVELOPER DEVELOPER DEVELOPER.

Re:Censorship (OT: SIG) (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891324)

If you don't get his .sig, sing it to the tune of 'Happy Birthday.'

At least, that's the only way it made any sense to me.

Re:Censorship (OT: SIG) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891409)

Bingo
I would have spaced it out but I didn't want to irritate anyone with the spacing

-Fidel-cat-sro-

It's hard to beat a name (4, Interesting)

jav1231 (539129) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891235)

Google has the name right now. Microsoft would have to completely abandon MSN because no one wants to search from MSN. One problem they have is that they don't appear to want to go head to head. Their move for AOL shows that they appear to have the idea if they can force AOL users to MSN unawares then their numbers will go up and they will appear to be competing. Just my observation. This whole battle seems to be more of Microsoft's idiology that if it's a technology, they should be the main player. Some might say this is business but business should be, "We can do it better" not "We should have what they have." Google is out there growing and coming up with new ideas. Microsoft is following. This isn't new. They did it with the browser market and the server market. They will build on the technology with new ideas (or bought ones?) once they conquer.

Only 1 thing to say (1)

daxomatic (772926) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891236)

"The beauty of software is that we are always making breakthroughs. We will have more in the next 10 years than we have had on the last 30," he said in an exclusive BBC interview.

Sure you are:

free software for anyone and you don't even have to install it yourself
Haha,

( simpsons ripoff laugh ) but hey @ least i say its a rip off

google too dominant... (1)

Maditude (473526) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891246)

Google is way too dominant (for now, at least) for vaporware announcements by Microsoft to have any effect.

Prediction? (3, Funny)

e.loser (923789) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891254)

"They can do lots of things, but still you can't talk to them, and that is one of the things we will get this decade," he predicted.

Who says I can't talk to my computer?

All bark, no bite (4, Insightful)

Teckla (630646) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891256)

Is it just me, or is Microsoft "all bark, and no bite" lately?

They're going to do this, they're working on that, they're going to be bigger than [insert market leader here].

I'd like it if Microsoft would just STFU and show me the goods, rather than keep telling me how great they'll be tomorrow.

Track Record (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891260)

Digital Research
Apple
IBM
Netscape
Word Perfect
Novell
Lotus

When Microsoft goes for a headshot, they usually succeed in killing them or making them irrelevant.

Does this mean Visual Studio help will work? (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891268)

Every release of Visual Studio means we wind up using Google more and more for help. If -that- is the shape of things to come from Microsoft, I can readily envision an MS search engine with a very cool u/i that doesn't let you find anything at all.

This is news? (2, Insightful)

overshoot (39700) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891269)

Microsoft's ambition is to be bigger than everyone in everything.

That wouldn't be so bad if their preferred method of getting there weren't borrowed from Tanya Harding.

Re:This is news? (4, Funny)

Rob the Bold (788862) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891349)

That wouldn't be so bad if their preferred method of getting there weren't borrowed from Tanya Harding.

Dear God, NO, not the Bill Gates wedding night video!!!

Yea right... (1)

jwiegley (520444) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891273)

"Oh you just don't know it yet but we're better than google at search technology. I mean how can we not? We're Microsoft! So just give it up already and join us cause we're already better. Even if nobody uses our seach stuff."

Come on! Nothing in Microsoft's history indicates that they are even competent at search and index technology let alone better than google. Look how good all of their troubleshooting "wizards" are at tracking down problems. Their on-line help page/search/indexing is also useless. What do you type first when you run into a windows problem... 'F1' or "www.google.com"?

Microsoft: Wise up. You do not even begin to compete with certain companies at certain technologies no matter how big you think you are. Your loses on Xbox should have taught you that it isn't wise to try to be good at everything.

BBC Quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891291)

Although there were a billion PCs, that was still very different to having six billion in the world and that they was still more to be done to make them much smarter.

BBC journalists also seem to be typical slashdotter-like (with 900,000+) UIDs or something that will bash microsoft and not care about their own stupidity.

"They can do lots of things, but still you can't talk to them, and that is one of the things we will get this decade," he predicted.

He has obviously never met a C++ programmer trying to debug a program at 3:00am with nothing more than g++, gdb and a printf statement.

Leave it to Microsoft to miss the point... (2, Insightful)

Kazoo the Clown (644526) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891293)

The reason Google is on top is NOT because of the best search engine technology. It was because Google presents a non-tyrannical alternative. Gates can't see that though, because he's too wedded to his tyrannies...

Re:Leave it to Microsoft to miss the point... (4, Interesting)

zoomba (227393) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891389)

Technically minded folks may flock to google over MS for the ethical reasons, but that's not the reason Google rules the roost right now. Google wins through better tech and ease of use. Technologies like search engines and anything else that depends on volume of use depend on public acceptance to be truely successful.

Techies drive tech advancement and improvement... but we don't drive wide-spread adoption, and we don't determine market success. The average Joe User does.

Most people don't care one bit over if the company they purchase from is "evil", just look to the success of Nike and WalMart to prove that point. They go with what works best, and Google works best.

That IS why Google's on top.

Hmmmm (2, Insightful)

J.R. Random (801334) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891296)

"We are stronger than ever because we have a research lab in Cambridge, we have one now in China, one in India and that is where the top problems in computer science are going to be solved."

Apparently, none of the top problems in computer science are going to be solved in the United States.

and what about all your current users ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891302)

why don't FIRST make an OS, web browser and office apps MORE secure for your thousands and thousands of users and then take the next step ?

True test of Microsoft's search ability... (5, Funny)

nharmon (97591) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891319)

When I can go to microsoft.com and search about the problem I'm having with Exchange and get better results than by searching google.com using site:microsoft.com, THEN Microsoft can tell me how great their search engine is.

Until that happens, its all FUD.

From the Article (1)

CGP314 (672613) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891328)

"The beauty of software is that we are always making breakthroughs. We will have more in the next 10 years than we have had on the last 30," he [Gates] said in an exclusive BBC interview.

Right... and so will Google. Good luck catching up Billie Boy.


-Colin [flickr.com]

no shit (1)

j1mmy (43634) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891346)

I don't think anyone would expect them to aspire to be smaller than Google in search.

template (4, Funny)

moviepig.com (745183) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891347)

People are underestimating what Microsoft is doing with search technology, says Bill Gates. The head of the software giant told the BBC that its ambition is to be bigger than Google in search.

People are underestimating what Microsoft is doing with [ANY] technology, says Bill Gates. The head of the software giant told [ALL WHO'D LISTEN] that its ambition is to be bigger than [COMPANY X] in [WHATEVER COMPANY X DOES].

Re:template (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891421)

I wonder if MS would want to be as not evil as Google... though, I don't think their competitive instincts would drive them THAT far.

Bigger isn't better (1)

Palos (527071) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891363)

Although they might end up being bigger, their problem is the search results. I've tried MS's from time to time and generally the first few links are completely unrelated link farms or the like, while the google first few results generally are what I'm looking for. Sure no search engine is perfect, but I go with the one that gives the best results for the searches I do, not the one that has the most pages indexed on their front page.

Have you tried Microsoft's experimental start.com (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891383)

http://www.start.com/ [start.com]

Awesome site. Microsoft is doing great work, and start is what's public right now.

Pre-emptive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13891387)

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH Slashdot, all Microsoft, all the Time! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Me hate stupid website! Shouldnt google have their own section by now? Me need diaper changey!

I just hope this makes it through the lameness fileter (yes fileter).

well, duh (1)

jasongetsdown (890117) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891394)

Of course their ambition is to bigger than Google in search. Their "ambition" has always been to be bigger than X at Y.

Unrealistic Ambitions (5, Informative)

agslashdot (574098) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891395)

Mr. Gates writes "We have a research lab in Cambridge, we have one now in China, one in India and that is where the top problems in computer science are going to be solved."

Really ?

Here's some of the top problems in CS. [unf.edu]

Here's [microsoft.com] the research lab in India - working on technology implementations, certainly not top CS problems.

Here [microsoft.com] are the 10 innovations that will blow you away - coming out of Beijing. Again, some very sound implementations, but not exactly top 10 CS problems.

But yes, Cambridge [microsoft.com] is looking at some of the top 10 CS problems. However, MS is no Bell Labs when it comes to taking on research problems. They end up successfully monetizing tech solutions, but that is quite different from pioneering fundamental breakthroughs like inventing a transistor [bellsystemmemorial.com] or laser [bell-labs.com].

What's Left? (1)

CGP314 (672613) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891399)

"We are stronger than ever because we have a research lab in Cambridge, we have one now in China, one in India and that is where the top problems in computer science are going to be solved." [Gates Said]

So... if we don't manufacture products in the States anymore and the future of computer science is overseas, what's left for America to be good at?


-Colin [flickr.com]

Unless.... (1)

stephenslashdot (661755) | more than 8 years ago | (#13891414)

"The beauty of software is that we are always making breakthroughs. We will have more in the next 10 years than we have had on the last 30," he said in an exclusive BBC interview. He then added "Unless, of course, we happen to knock google out, in that case we'll just leave things as they are."
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