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97 comments

Where's the OS X release... (0, Troll)

irchs (752829) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968208)

... and the source code?! :)

Jan

Re:Where's the OS X release... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968476)

Don't be silly. Everyone knows Macs don't have any computing power.

Re:Where's the OS X release... (1)

wootest (694923) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968965)

It's true. They feed on pure karma... which might be why my PowerBook has been a bit sluggish lately.

Re:Where's the OS X release... (1)

irchs (752829) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968663)

Damn it, troll me if you want. I just thought the source code would be useful so the community could learn how it works, and maybe even optimize it.

After antivirus and Windows Update... (-1, Flamebait)

jkrise (535370) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968218)

I hardly have any 'computing' power left... and my Linux box is blocked by a firewall ;-(

Imagine (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968219)

Imagine a beow... no, don't...

There's another OS besides Windows? (4, Funny)

teewurstmann (755953) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968228)

It is a great move that a Linux agent has been released. I just wished more companies/projects/institutions would realize that there are people out there that prefer living without having to click on Start to shutdown their box...

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (2, Informative)

Agret (752467) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968233)

You can just hit the power button and the OS will shutdown itself.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (3, Informative)

Chicane-UK (455253) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968276)

Or you can make a shortcut on your desktop, to shutdown the computer with the following command line:

shutdown -s -f

Or you can make it do a shutdown and restart with:

shutdown -r -f

The -f option is to forcibly quit any applications that insist on staying open! :)

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968290)

What's the command to recycle 10 year old jokes and present them as new? ;)

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968308)

What's the command to find out the running processes on a Win98 system? A command-line option to kill the process? You seem like a friendly MS astroturfer.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (1)

blackpaw (240313) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968518)

Win98 ? great comparison, tell me about running 3D accelrated X games on linux kernel 1.x then.

Command line tools for listing & killing processes plus a bunch more - try sysinternals.com, great set of utilities.

Windows 2000? (1)

sr180 (700526) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968375)

So which versions of windows does this work for?

My computer (Windows 2000):

c:\>shutdown -s -f
'shutdown' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

Re:Windows 2000? (1)

Agret (752467) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968497)

Works for XP not 2000.

Re:Windows 2000? (1)

zootm (850416) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968570)

I just checked, and it's not included in 2000 by default (I think it was made after release or something). It's available with the Resource Kit [microsoft.com] , apparently.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (1)

istaz (694207) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968376)

I tried it once. It does not switch off your pc. You need to manually switch it off.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968504)

Yeah we should believe you and your tireless scientific research into the problem.

Thanks for the utterly worthless post, you fucking cretin.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (1)

Chicane-UK (455253) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969116)

You need to have a reasonably modern PC with a fully ACPI compliant BIOS in order for the power button thing to work. My 2+ year old Abit NF7-S board works fine with it.. press the power button, begins a normal shutdown of the system.

Of course folk like SGI have had this on their systems for years.. my old SGI Indy did this and thats from the early 90's!! :)

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (1)

feamsr00 (746721) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969308)

So did IBM, at least thier aptiva line.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (1)

oliana (181649) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969100)

Or Alt-F4. (you may have to click on the desktop to make that work.)

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (1)

roger6106 (847020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13973006)

For even more fun you can put that shortcut in your startup folder.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968317)

I press ctrl-alt-del to shutdown my box...

it sure beats shutdown -ht sec now

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (0, Troll)

greginnj (891863) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968325)

There are also people out there who prefer to read /. without having to wade through all the karma whoring....

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968405)

'Start' refers to starting a task. Shutting your computer down is a task. To start to shut down your computer, you click 'start'. Nobody has ever been confused about this.

Re:There's another OS besides Windows? (1)

scumbaguk (918201) | more than 8 years ago | (#13977425)

Well technicaly you are "starting" the shutdown proccess. So clicking on start makes perfect sense.

Yes, it IS important. (4, Insightful)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968293)

So, okay, Linux is like 2% of world computer share. BUT lots of the Linux machines are servers. Running 24/7 and with plenty of spare CPU power.

I launch my primary PC, 2GHz CPU. Boot it to Windows. The computation starts and runs for 1h when I check my mail, read some slashdot, then I want to start up Half-Life 2 and have every CPU cycle for myself so I quit the client. I play for 3h, then for the rest of the evening use a text terminal in my bed for IRCing, the main PC is off. 2 billion CPU cycles per day donated.
But I have a PC at work, that works as a Samba server, has 330MHZ CPU, and most of the time does completely nothing. Linux. 8 billion CPU cycles per day donated.

Re:Yes, it IS important. (1)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968355)

With one problem though. GTK and X required.
Fuck.

Re:Yes, it IS important. (1)

strider44 (650833) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968365)

No they're not.

Re:Yes, it IS important. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968453)

%boincmgr
12:45:14: Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

Re:Yes, it IS important. (2, Informative)

strider44 (650833) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968475)

BOINC$ ./run_client
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] Starting BOINC client version 5.2.6 for i686-pc-linux-gnu
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8 zlib/1.2.3
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] Data directory: /home/strider44/BOINC
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] Processor: *
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] Memory: * MB physical, * GB virtual
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] Disk: * GB total, * GB free
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [World Community Grid] Computer ID: *; location: Default; project prefs: default
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 1970-01-01 10:00:00)
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] General prefs: no separate prefs for Default; using your defaults
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [---] Remote control not allowed; using loopback address
2005-11-07 23:02:08 [World Community Grid] Resuming computation for result de078_2D_0 using rosetta version 419

Perhaps you should have read the instructions before using the wrong command.

Re:Yes, it IS important. (1)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968614)

okay, okay... depending on WHICH manual you read. I've found at least four different on the site so far. The one about "launching the agent at system startup" (which I used) refers you to boincmgr in order to add a project, and doesn't even mention adding it from the commandline.
Anyway...

click cygwin\startx.bat
in xterm type:
xhost server
ssh -l boinc server
setenv DISPLAY "client:0.0"
boincmgr
or alike...

Re:Yes, it IS important. (1)

RicktheBrick (588466) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968957)

It look like AMD is going to soon stop making 32 bit microprocessor. They now sell a 64 bit microprocessor for around $60. It would be nice if the people who are asking for your donation of CPU time at least allow you to use the cheapest means of providing that service. Windows require the professional version to get 64 bit computing so a 64 bit Linux operating system on a AMD 64 bit machine would be cheaper and faster than a 32 bit machine with windows xp.

Debian Package? (1)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 8 years ago | (#13976343)

Does anyone know what the story is with the Debian package of this?

I just spent more than two hours trying to get the "official" version of this running on my headless Debian sarge box, over an SSH session, and I eventually threw in the towel when I couldn't find a script for running it as a daemon that seemed generally accepted to work and be stable. It's too bad, since I have the perfect system for it: my backup server, which sits connected to a cable modem in a friend's basement, on a UPS and 99.9% idle, since all it ever gets used for is the few seconds every day when my other systems rsync to it.

I had high hopes when I found out that there's a packaged version over at https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-boinc/ [debian.org] however that server seems to be dead as an oak door right now.

It's too bad they didn't do a better job documenting this for anything other than a "desktop linux" install with a non-remote user, because I think a lot of the potential users of this software are going to want to do it using a daemon, and install it remotely over SSH -- so it can use the idle cycles on a server or other headless box. Right now it's a real exercise in frustration, sadly, and I think I'll wait until somebody comes up with some good step-by-step instructions on how do it, using precompiled Debian packages.

I'd love to help, but I'm not going to risk possibly screwing up something on my home server for it. There's a reason I swore off installing anything that didn't come from Debian Stable, and maybe I'm just being reminded of why.

But... (2, Funny)

Wite_Noiz (887188) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968298)

now what will Team Slashdot be campaigning for?!

Psst (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968303)

The Linux Agent is Valerie Plume.

But you didn't get that from me.

-- A friend of democracy

Re:Psst (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968968)

Also known as the wife of Tux.

But it is a rumor I heard from someone else and I have no idea if it is the truth but I'd like you to know it anyway.

-- Another friend of democracy

Re:Psst (1)

neomunk (913773) | more than 8 years ago | (#13976340)

If that's the case, I bet Jeff Gannon is the Windows Agent.

That's some effort (5, Insightful)

dJOEK (66178) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968305)

Logic for beginners:

1. World Computing had only a Windows Client until today
2. Team Slashdot is the #1 Team -> lotsa computing power
3. Slashdotians are in general Linux zealots.

Conclusion, The few windows users on slashdot that engage in World Computing have some pretty hefty Windows boxen ;-)

That, or you're all closet XP users ;-)

Re:That's some effort (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968326)

Why don't you guys just run BOINC, which is open-source and runs on all sorts of platforms and projects? It seems kind of lame to act like supporting a multi-national conglomerate like IBM is "rad" and they only run one boring project.

Re:That's some effort (2, Informative)

strider44 (650833) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968330)

Statistics seem to show most slashdotians are closet XP users. However I've added my computer to the linux fold (I love puns).

Incidentely the software seems to work fine. It's not pretty and it's just based off standard GTK. When installing you have to remember to read the instructions CAREFULLY as it will give you a link that's needed to attach your account to the server. After this run the file run_manager and it will download a whole lot of files that you need and then after these files are finished downloading it'll automatically start and your trusty CPU counter will go up to 100%.

I'm doing my bit for Team Slashdot!

Re:That's some effort (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968331)

Psst... this sounds like a real dirty trick to infect Linux loving geeks on Slashdot -careful!

Re:That's some effort (2, Informative)

J0nne (924579) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968333)

It's been general knowledge that the majority of users on /. use Windows. But if you'd compare it to other websites, there's a bigger percentage of users that use Linux (but it's still not the majority).

Incidentally, I'm posting this from Linux (Ubuntu Breezy Badger).

Re:That's some effort (1)

dascandy (869781) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968530)

What causes the Slashdot effect? Incredible loads of computers.

Reason with me:

1. World Computing had only a Windows client
2. Team Slashdot has the most computing client
3. Team Slashdot has lots of computers running on windows

1. Team Slashdot has lots of computers running on windows
2. Slashdot consists mainly of non-Windows boxes
3. Slashdot (indirectly) has more boxes than you can imagine.

It's like the slashdot effect on DC.

Questions (5, Interesting)

trollable (928694) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968322)

The fact there is now a linux client is a good things. However, there is a few things that are not very clear. I scan quickly both grid.org and worldcommunitygrid.org.

1) Who can access the results?
2) What are the policies for the input and output?
3) Can any researcher use the results?
4) Is the client close-source?

Thanks

Re:Questions (2, Insightful)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968378)

4) Is the client close-source?

Yes, I would be rather uncomfortable about running a cpu heavy application which requires internet access without some way of auditing its behavior.

Re:Ridiculous (2, Interesting)

SolitaryMan (538416) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968626)

I would be rather uncomfortable about running a cpu heavy application which requires internet access without some way of auditing its behavior.

I find it more than just uncomfortable. It's ridiculous to ask me for some of my computing power, while in return giving some weird EULA to accept and non-free (as in freedom) application.

Re:Ridiculous (1)

Somegeek (624100) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968737)

They have to protect their data stream and project data from people who would vandalize it via hacked clients, thus the protected clients.

People on slashdot and the grid have been begging for a linux client since it started. Now they have provided one.

I'm sorry you feel uncomfortable about the eula, but if you think about the reasons behind it and the importance of keeping this data valid, it makes sense.

I personally think that it's a great project and have been happy to contribute 111 days of computing time to the project so far.

Linux != x86 binary (1)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 8 years ago | (#13971230)

Also, without source code, they're missing out on lots of Linux machines that don't run x86 CPUs, including major G5 clusters, Sparc workstations, Alpha workstations, etc.

Running in sandbox (1)

CustomDesigned (250089) | more than 8 years ago | (#13970133)

I run the seti@home and folding@home clients. I created an init.d service for each. They run in the background with their own user id. While the kernel could have local exploits, and they don't run chroot (too many libraries to chase down for that), it is a sandbox. I was mainly worried about bugs, rather than intentional spying or sabotage.

I had rpms for each service that "builds" from their binary tarball. But the installation is not consistent, and the RPM needs tweaking every time I upgrade.

If your unix sandbox is all its cracked up to be, you *ought* to be able to run the closed source binary client in a sandbox with no worries. I would feed safer, however, if the client was written in Java, and I could run it in a JVM sandbox inside a unix sandbox. That would make it a cross-platform binary to boot. Java actually does pretty well speed wise for long running programs of that nature. I suspect that the lack of built-in complex number support makes the coding rather a pain. Maybe we'll see a Fortran compiler for Java one of these days.

Re:Running in sandbox (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#13977117)

I run the seti@home and folding@home

Ah yes, but how do you know they are really doing seti and folding? Not so much of a problem today, with the small community of people running these things, but in the future when there is a greater demand for heavy computing capacity, it may be different.

Java actually does pretty well speed wise for long running programs of that nature

Quite right

Re:Questions (1)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968543)

4: No. It may not be Free as Speech, but you can compile it from the source.

Re:Questions (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13969021)

1 and 3) Contributed to the public domain

2) * Focused on solving problems to benefit humanity;
* Conducted by public or nonprofit organizations;
* Contributed to the public domain; and
* Accelerated by grid computing technology.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcas e/viewSubmitAProposal.do [worldcommunitygrid.org]

Re:Questions (1)

Switchback (6988) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969863)

1. The results from any project run on World Community Grid are required to be placed into the public domain for anyone to use.

2. I'm Not sure what you mean by this question. The research institute creates the data and World Community Grid verifies and packages it up for deployment on the grid. Results are verified by World Community Grid, packaged and sent back to the research institute for whatever post processing they need to do on the raw results. All data is sent and received via an encrypted link.

3. As answered in #1, the results are placed into the public domain, so anyone can utilize them.

4. The Windows client is closed source, licenced from United Devices. BOINC [berkeley.edu] is open source.

Re:Questions (1)

trollable (928694) | more than 8 years ago | (#13970111)

Thank you very much for the answer. The fact that the results are put into the public domain is exactly what I wanted to hear. I could not find this information on the website but I probably just missed it. Thanks again.

Re:Questions (1)

Switchback (6988) | more than 8 years ago | (#13970213)

Look on the Submitting a Proposal [worldcommunitygrid.org] page under the "Research" tab.

Specifically, the first paragraph states:
...Research results must be made available to the global research community and will be made available on World Community Grid's web site.
You can find more details in the "Request For Proposal" PDF on that page.

Re:Questions (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13970091)

There is big difference from this and Folding@Home from what i can see Folding@Home never published raw data despite their promise years ago, every year there is some user asking on their forum and they answer something like "oh yes soon very soon".I can't understand how are so many contributors devoting so many CPU hours to Folding@Home when their behavior is clearly to keep results for themselves while throwing back near useless nice pictures or short reports.

Aint it a bitch (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968386)

Ha ha! French assholes. Hypocrisy is a motherfucker aint it. You fucks sit around and talk all that shit about the US and now look at you. I guess Jacque Chirac is finally thinking about maybe considering the possibility of doing...something. Ha ha! That's what you call leadership? What a joke. You people are a bunch of fucking jokes.

Figure out what the term upward mobility is all about and then see if maybe you jokes can apply it to your broken excuse for a society. Then maybe your immigrants won't be so pissed off at you when they at least have a fair chance of getting a good job and actually making something out of themselves. We call it the American Dream. It isn't perfect but you know what? It works if you work it. Just ask the millions of self-made millionaires we have here including myself. And by the way, I am a millionaire as of a couple of months ago. Isn't ebay and amazon great?

READ THE EULA (3, Interesting)

putko (753330) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968436)

There is a EULA, and it looks pretty irritating [worldcommunitygrid.org] .

I will leave it to the EULA vultures to pick over this thing -- but it is a doozy.

Agent? (1)

Mathness (145187) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968441)

Agent? Agent!? We don't need no stinking agent.

What kind of agent anyway? Secret agent? Agent Orange? PR agent?

*goes off to read TFA*

Oooooh shiny.

Re:Agent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968448)

It's secret agent orange with new fast-acting PR!

Re:Agent? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968479)

First thing that came to mind when I read the title was:
The Matrix released Agent Smith.
You'd better watch your back!

Why did it take so long? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968455)

Seti@Home and other grid computing programs have ports for lots of OSs, I run it on FreeBSD. Why shouldn't they when the program just processes information and sends it back? How much OS specific code is there in grid computing programs like these anyway?

Comparison to Folding@Home (4, Insightful)

TuxPaper (531914) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968466)

From their FAQ:
What is the difference between what Human Proteome Folding does and what Folding@home does?

There are large differences between the Human Proteome Folding Project and folding@home. Both projects are excellent but have very different objectives.

Folding@home aims to get at how a few proteins of KNOWN structure fold DYNAMICALLY. Folding@home is a project to further understanding of the folding process itself. Understanding why protein folding works (and why it doesn't) could have a significant impact in certain diseases like Alzheimer's and Huntington's Disease, which Folding@Home is actively studying.

The Human Proteome Folding Project will PREDICT the structures of large numbers of proteins of UNKNOWN-structure. The aim of this project is to get structures and functions for huge numbers of proteins so that biologists and biomedical researchers who run into these mystery proteins in their research can look to ISB's database for functional/mechanistic clues about their favorite mystery-proteins.

Call me a pessimist, or a conspiracy theorist, but the ability to predict unknown structures sounds like a way for coporations to patent them. Or maybe I'm reading it wrong. Either way, I'm sticking to Folding@Home.

Re:Comparison to Folding@Home (2, Informative)

tayhimself (791184) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969457)

This should be rated informative but not insightful. You cannot patent the structure of a protein, because there are several experimental methods to determine structure such as XRAY and NMR crystallography. If you create your own protein which AFAIK noone has created a useful sizeable protein, then maybe you can patent it. Or you can patent special ligand molecules that bind to proteins of medical interest. Heres the wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallography/ [wikipedia.org]

isn't Public Domain bad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13969857)

Haven't we been taught that in the current climate of Intellectual Property that "public domain" is bad, basically providing no protection against with big-bad-mega-corp coming along with a patent and making it non-free.

Why exactly is it that we have open source "licensing" for software rather than just relying on the public domain? What accountability can we as users in the information. Where is the easy-to-find link where "I" can download the 44 top results for the smallpox treatments?

Sure the projects are run for non-profit organisations, but what guarantee is there on the behaviour of that non-profit in the business it does with for-profit organisations. A license IS NEEDED for the generated discoveries to keep them freely available.

I'd be much happier particpating in a grid if it was already a non-profit organisation itself, which would actually own and hold the intellectual property discovered by the grid, with a constitution to license it to EVERYONE. A reasonable charge could be levied to fund the process of patenting its discoveries to ensure they are kept free-as-in-speech.

Re:Comparison to Folding@Home (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13970254)

There is big difference about results between this and Folding@Home, because Folding@Home never published raw data despite their promise years ago, every year there is some user asking on their forum and they answer something like "oh yes soon very soon". I can't understand how are so many contributors devoting so many CPU hours to Folding@Home when their behavior is clearly to keep results for themselves while throwing back near useless nice pictures or short reports.I think this is unexcusable because the Folding@Home at the very begining attracted lots of users by promising they will give access to results.

Re:Comparison to Folding@Home (1)

Duncan3 (10537) | more than 8 years ago | (#13971259)

Nice troll AC, That's not true, the data is shared with other researchers.

Re:Comparison to Folding@Home (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13972690)

Can you please provide a public accesible url to raw data?
Only then you can prove me wrong (easy!).
Not a PSC local researcher only user/password account.
Can you explain the raw data related messages on their main forum?

A lot of people are wondering... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968489)

How is this different from Folding@Home?

Whoa! Linux agent released?! (1)

Agret (752467) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968503)

The World Community Grid is proud to announce the release of a Linux Agent

What did they capture him for? Was he spying on them again? Who is this agent, is he a secret agent? What was exchanged in return for his safe release?

Re:Whoa! Linux agent released?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968524)

He is THEIR agent and they are proud to announce they successfully traded his release in exchange for two former soviet spies, a taliban leader and three mid-level managers who will hopefully be used as live shields by Al-Quaida. He was held hostage after being caught spreading anti-Microsoft propaganda in Iran. (you see, Allah loves Microsoft...)

YEAH (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968515)

I am jackin' it as fast and hard as I can

Heh Heh (2, Interesting)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968529)

"No news story has appeared yet on ./ as I'm writing this. You should submit one (I have to go). Be sure to mention that the project has previously been featured on Slashdot on 2004/12/30(31 ?), so that moderators can moderate "-1 Redundant" posts containing some form of mention that the news is a dupe ;-)"
That's the last post in their official slashdot thread

someone's got a sense of humor

Re:Heh Heh (1)

Lionel Debroux (807362) | more than 8 years ago | (#14001110)

Well, I'm slightly tired of reading multiple posts containing a mention that the news is a dupe, and/or that the ./ authors are lame because they couldn't see they were making a dupe. This is one of the kinds of comments responsible for the special reputation of ./ readers (although there are gems in mostly every topic).

BTW, where are all those who complained about the lack of a Linux client ;-) ? Last time, team Slashdot gained more than 3000 users. This time, less than 400 so far (barely enough to be noticeable in the stats) !
Similarly, this thread has surprisingly few replies for a ./ thread. It's true that there's been no mention that both major complaints about the Windows client (it does not accept more than one WU at once - although there's UDMon for that purpose; it does not support multiple cores / multiple instances) have been addressed in the Linux BOINC client.

As someone else posted, there's now the Easynews team. Their growth over the past days is explosive, reminds of that of Team Slashdot on 2004/12/30-2005/01/02.

Ah-ha, just as I thought! (1)

biglig2 (89374) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968555)

Team Slashdot are #1 but only now does it have a Linux client! You're all secretly Windows users! It's all been lies!

Source (2, Interesting)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968563)

For anyone asking: No idea what's the license but the source code is open:
http://boinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/source_code.php [berkeley.edu]
(by the way, they really make it hard to get there from the main page...)

Re:Source (2, Informative)

amirl (813941) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968629)

You're wrong. Boinc is not part of World Community Grid. As a matter of fact, it's 2 different projects. Boinc is indeed open source written by Berkely University but World Community Grid is not. Read more here [worldcommunitygrid.org] .

Re:Source (2, Informative)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968652)

except World Community Grid uses Boinc as its Linux agent.
support@worldcommunitygrid.org
to me
    More options 12:01 pm (1½ hours ago)
Thank you Vo0k for downloading the World Community Grid Linux agent.
 
Be sure to have the following information handy when installing the Linux agent:
Account Key: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
BOINC Project URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
 
If you'd like to download the Linux agent to another computer, you can do that from this link: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewDownload. do
If you have questions about installing and registering the Linux agent, please take a look at the FAQ's at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.d o?shortName=boinc
Thanks,
World Community Grid Team

Why Don't You Publicize BOINC? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13968564)

The only reason the corporate-driven "World Community Grid" has a Linux client is because they ripped it off of the open-source BOINC. Which you guys never promote/publicize for some reason.

Folding @ Home? (2, Informative)

r2tincan (893666) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968598)

I was wondering how this World Community Grid stands up to Folding@Home [stanford.edu] ?

I'm a member of a F@H team and it seems like there are a lot of people participating. Are these efforts competing against one another or are they different areas of study? I don't quite understand.

Also, I know that the F@H client can run in the background and take up no system resources, only unused processor cycles, (which is part of the reason I use it.) Does the World Community Grid project's clients take up a lot of system resources...?

Re:Folding @ Home? (1)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969169)

I've been running it on my XP box for about a year now, and it's been pretty well behaved. It doesn't lock up, or noticably slow my applications down. Beyond that, you can set it to run in pure screensaver mode, so you can be sure it won't be interfering.

I'll definitely try it out on my low security linux box, but it worries me slightly, because I have a lot of background services running on that one. It'll be interesting to see how well it plays with others.

Re:Folding @ Home? (1)

NereusRen (811533) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969532)

The Boinc client seems to run at nice 19 (i.e. very low thread priority), and doesn't seem to be hogging memory or disk space. I haven't been running it long enough to see if either of those will build up over time. It's designed for you to run it in the background without noticing.

As to your other question, this addresses a slightly different research topic than Folding@home. See their explanation of the differences at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/projects_showcas e/viewHpfFaq.do?shortName=hpf#folding [worldcommunitygrid.org] .

Linux Agent? (1)

Frankie70 (803801) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968825)

What's a Linux Agent?

I know Clippy was a Microsoft Agent [wikipedia.org]

Godd job guys, my Suns will still go to waste... (2, Informative)

Triode (127874) | more than 8 years ago | (#13968973)

It would have been nice to release the source code for the client, eh? Now all of my
idle cpu clocks on all of my dual cpu sun machines will still go to waste heating the
house instead of helping mankind. (the client is AMD or Wintel x86 only).

I suppose the apple guys are in the same camp until 2006 (apple-tel?) also...

When will they ever learn.

Re:Godd job guys, my Suns will still go to waste.. (1)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 8 years ago | (#13975205)

Maybe I'm missing something, since I haven't actually installed it yet (downloading now) but can't you use BOINC? It's open source and multiplatform, runs on Linux x86, PPC, probably other architectures as well, and Mac OS X. Probably there's a windows version...but who cares. ;)

Would that satisfy your requirements?

OT: I wish there was a summary of the various distributed projects along with a rundown of what they do, who's sponsoring them, and what clients you need to help out. I keep hearing about a big IBM-sponsored one that uses a Windows screensaver (it's popular at work) but I can't figure out which project it is.

Mine going to waste also. (1)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 8 years ago | (#13975446)

Well, guess I got ahead of myself there. Just for the record, although World Community Grid (which is clearly the IBM-sponsored project) does use the BOINC client, it only uses the Windows and Linux "official" versions. The OS X and I assume probably also any other roll-your-own-from-source versions don't work. As an example on my Mac I just get this message:

"Mon Nov 7 20:03:27 2005|World Community Grid|Message from server: platform 'powerpc-apple-darwin' not found"

Their loss, I'll find another project to attach to I guess. Too bad, because it's always on and idle most of the day and night, since it basically just acts as my firewall and wireless router.

Where can I download Team Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13969287)

Team Slashdot, being the #1 team on the World Community Grid, will be pleased to hear that it is now available for download.

So, just what kind of bandwidth will I need to download Team Slashdot?

For the Clueless... (1)

OS24Ever (245667) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969332)

...I've searched the FAQ and stuff on the worldcommunity web pages but I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do next after installing it? I'm running it from a command line, no GUI available and can't find any local DOC file on how to install it.

It runs, did a benchmark of the cpus, then sits there.

Never Mind (1)

OS24Ever (245667) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969636)

Never mind. Found it, underneath the 'self extracting archive' is really a link telling you what to do.

Free Software (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969555)

Wheee - more free R&D resources for pharmacos pimping their drugs to dying people who can't say no to patent-monopoly prices, and the government handouts. When these drug research massively parallel projects can chargeback to my bank account a share of the take proportional to my participation in the project, wake me.

Re:Free Software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13972187)

You forgot to say something about Chimpy McBushitler. You're losin your touch, Doc....

Re:Free Software (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#13972512)

Why bother, when ACs will do it for me? And when my post can be decoded to "Prescription Drug Bill Scam", which is covered under Bush? I just don't have to work that hard anymore, now that the preznit is shooting down past 35%, President VP Cheney is seizing at 19%, the White House is under parallel indictments...

This project is academic, not private/pharma. (1)

metro012 (898321) | more than 8 years ago | (#13976903)

Yes, for-profits like IBM and United Devices are helping, but the Proteome Folding project is not theirs. Nor do you see an pharmaceutical companies here. The ISB in a non-profit academic center. The lead scientists are top-notch. This data is being published and shared. Check out the papers at http://genomebiology.com/2004/5/8/R52 [genomebiology.com] and http://www.genome.org/cgi/content/abstract/14/11/2 221 [genome.org] for examples. They used the Halobacterium NRC-1 as a practice run and discovered the function of a number of its unknown genes.

(For example, they uncovered over a dozen Htrs--halobacterial transducer proteins--part of the machinery halobacteria uses to sense its environment. These things are amazing extremophiles. They show how life can survive just about anywhere. They're what make the salt ponds at the south end of San Francisco Bay turn purple. NRC-1 came from the Dead Sea.)

Plus Linux Allows Secure Computing (1)

privaria (583781) | more than 8 years ago | (#13969793)

If they didn't have to support that other, lesser OS that is still polluting everybody's desktops, these folks could use the Secure Computing capability of Linux to wall off the grid client from the rest of the box, right at the kernel level: http://kerneltrap.org/node/4005 [kerneltrap.org]

WCG does not work for me. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13970129)

The WCG is still a for profit project and any scientific outcome will go to paying customers. Why should I spend my money on it?
I'll better run Folding@Home client as I do see scientific publications rolling out the door and results are open to anyone to use.
http://folding.stanford.edu/ [stanford.edu]
http://folding.stanford.edu/papers.html [stanford.edu]
http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-diseases.html [stanford.edu]

So does it do yEnc? (1)

Maltheus (248271) | more than 8 years ago | (#13973097)

Bout time they released this, Pan is a piece of garbage. ;-)

Slashdot #1 team?! (1)

mrgodzilla (730416) | more than 8 years ago | (#13974994)

From the looks of things, Easynews beat the slashdot team
in results returned, points generated and run time yesterday.

Come on folks.. re-gain the #1 stop.. or we'll (Easynews) keep
whipping your a$$.

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