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American Newspapers to Begin Carrying Manga

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the not-just-for-kids-anymore dept.

Anime 304

jonerik writes to tell us The Associated press is running an article stating that several American newspapers are going to start carrying manga with their normal arsenal of comics. The papers feel that this will help boost their readership amongst a younger audience. The two strips that made the cut are Van Von Hunter, and Peach Fuzz which are both created by American writer/illustrators and are being distributed by Universal Press Syndicate.

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Not news (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993185)

Now, it if was hentai...

Re:Not news (3, Interesting)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993275)

More to the point: ...which are both created by American writer/illustrators...

I'm sorry. I thought the headline said "Manga" was being added to the newspapers.

Illustrated stories by Americans are called "comics."

And no, it doesn't matter if they are not joke-based. Ever hear of "Prince Valliant", "Sally Forth" or "Spider Man"? This is just more of the same.

death rattles of media dinosaurs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993400)

FP (-1, Offtopic)

The Philosophers Cat (893500) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993187)

first post

How do we know this is manga? (5, Interesting)

Ithika (703697) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993188)

Where does the line between manga and comic art exist then, if not by country of origin?

Re:How do we know this is manga? (4, Funny)

Average_Joe_Sixpack (534373) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993234)

The pane progression will be right to left

Re:How do we know this is manga? (1)

TheLoneIguana (126589) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993235)

The style of art, I suppose.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (4, Insightful)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993266)

The problem is that the style of American "manga" is generally a stereotypical view of manga drawing styles. Sure, a lot of manga do follow the stereotype, alot don't. Besides, my understanding of the meaning of manga as a loan word in English always coincided with the origin, it doesn't make much sense to me to use a foreign loan word to describe a domestic product which there already exists a perfectly fine word - comic.

good point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993607)

Do you realize that discussing the qualities of manga and how it's different from comics means you automatically fail at life?

It's true.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (4, Funny)

RobotRunAmok (595286) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993248)

Where does the line between manga and comic art exist then, if not by country of origin?

It's obviously more than just the big eyes. If that were the only qualification, we'd have seen Dragonball Orphan Annie Z! a long time ago.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (2, Funny)

pcgabe (712924) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993611)

You don't get Dragonball Orphan Annie Z in your country? Man, America is really behind the times!

Re:How do we know this is manga? (2, Informative)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993255)

Style.

The Japanis comic art style is distinctly different from traditional (pre-Japanese-influence) American-style comic art.

I prefer American comic art, myself. I can't recall ever seeing any manga that looks like something I'd want framed and hanging on my wall, but there's tons of American comic art that'd look great up there. Anything by Alex Ross, for example.

The "Manga-ized" American comics are awful. It's like they took the worst elements from both and stuck them together. Ugly as hell.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993291)

Bzzt. You lose. There are Japanese comics out there that you would not necessarily recognize as manga. There is not one single artistic style that can sum up the totality of Japanese comics style.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (3, Insightful)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993318)

But what is the "Japanese style" of comics???

The "big eyes" look that people seem to associate with Manga (even though it's not always used) is something that Osamu Tezuka stole from Disney's "Snow White."

When I see must American attempts to make things "look Japanese" (such as the Teen Titan series currently on cable), it looks more like a parody of the oddest quirks of japanese anime than anything else.

Right here (1)

Valiss (463641) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993523)

But what is the "Japanese style" of comics???


Hi. I'm John Q. Public. Japanese style, manga, anime, japanimation, or whatever everyone wants to call it this week, to me, is big eyes, small mouth and no nose. There are other aspect that make it that style, but visually, that is what it is to me, John Q. Public.
------

Now, I'm not a "real" or "hardcore" anime fan. I've seen some series here and there, and it's ok, but not really my interest. But as someone who was on the outside and who gave it a real chance, I can tell you that is exactly how most people see anime - as described above. And in fact, it all looks the same to many people in the same way all heavy metal music sounds the same.

That is one of many hurdles it will have to cross to gain acceptance from John.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993484)

I can't recall ever seeing any manga that looks like something I'd want framed and hanging on my wall, but there's tons of American comic art that'd look great up there. Anything by Alex Ross, for example.

I'm not sure if this link will withstand the slashdotting, but I'd suggest that stuff like this [ssw.net] holds up with just about anything from Alex Ross.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (5, Insightful)

badasscat (563442) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993292)

Where does the line between manga and comic art exist then, if not by country of origin?

I was thinking the same thing when I read that last sentence in the submission. "Manga" is not a style, it specifically refers to Japanese graphic storytelling. Otherwise there'd be no reason to even use that word. We use that word to refer to their comics/graphic novels because they use that word to refer to the same material. (It is the same with "anime".)

Anything that is created outside of Japan is not manga, at least not if you're using that word to differentiate something from a standard comic (i.e. you are speaking English and not Japanese). It may be "manga-inspired", but it is not manga.

People do get into arguments about this sort of thing, and yes, there can be questions of degree... a lot of anime, for example, is written and designed in Japan but drawn in Korea. Is it really anime? Probably. Same is true of some manga. But if you're talking about comics written by Americans, drawn by Americans, in America, that's just a comic. That's got nothing to do with manga, however its visual style may look.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (4, Interesting)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993386)

Not to get into a "is" "isn't" flap...

But I was under the impression that one large distinction was the set of graphic conventions used. (For instance: lightbulb-over-head versus laserbeam into head for idea, smoking head versus bulging veins for anger, etc.)

I suspect when an american comic syndicate executive says "manga" he undersands it to mean a comic that uses the stylistic and graphic-linguistic convention set of manga, rather than whatever the "real" definition is.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (3, Interesting)

Ithika (703697) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993416)

Despite the fact that this is the most sensible reasoning I've seen so far for using "manga" instead of "comic", it seems a bit daft to make a product full of cultural references and market it exclusively to people outside that culture.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993573)

Despite the fact that this is the most sensible reasoning I've seen so far for using "manga" instead of "comic", it seems a bit daft to make a product full of cultural references and market it exclusively to people outside that culture.

Well, that's beside the point for the definition, isn't it, whether it is a good idea or not?

But it's not daft at all. It happens all the time. What about, say, German jazz bands (playing pieces written by German songwriters)? Japanese wine conossieur magazines? California rolls? I mean, the list would be nearly endless. Taking others' ideas, mixing them and making them our own is what all lively cultures do.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993592)

Perhaps the word "manga" is being assimilated into the English lexicon to replace the overly cumbersome (and hyperbolic) phrase "graphic novel"?

Or more importantly... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993314)

Who gives a flying fuck?

Re:How do we know this is manga? (1)

Dragoonmac (929292) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993410)

Well, we don't. Japan has been running newspaper -read "american"- comics with the gag a day format for years. Enough to leave a lasting impact on the japanese comic, case in mind, Azumanga Daioh. So I am surprised at their choice, they could have easily picked a more western style of strip to appeal to a broader audience. Maybe it's an attempt to get all the Fanboys away from slashdot and onto a real source of news for once.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993564)

Who cares! What I want is for someone to pay Bill Waterson a billion dollars to bring back Calvin and Hobbes, or to resurrect Charles M. Schulz and get him back to the 1967-1980 period of Peanuts. Everything else is just plain shit.

Re:How do we know this is manga? (2, Informative)

burrows (112035) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993570)

For what it's worth, Piro, the artist behind the online comic MegaTokyo [megatokyo.com] , wrote an extensive rant [megatokyo.com] on the problem of what to call this type of art. I don't think it really answers the question, but it certainly adds some food for thought. If not manga, what is it?

I guess (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993192)

that rape is acceptable in the US now.

Re:I guess (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993217)

Tentacle rape is not really rape, women enjoy it and so do you.

Re:I guess (0)

Feminist-Mom (816033) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993249)

I can't believe that that got modded as flamebait. Rape is the central theme in a lot of Manga, and no one seems to mind. This is a really sick thing, and I don't see why pointing it out is flamebait.

Re:I guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993526)

just like airplanes crashing on a deserted island is a central theme in a lot of american television. oh wait, that's just a few shows. you'd make a horrible scientist with the way your brain processes quantity.

what is this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993194)

what is this?

Ob (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993272)

Ah, Ziggy! Will you ever win?

s-twig (1)

s-twig (775100) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993195)

Does that mean Penthouse might start carrying Hentai?

pfffft .... (2, Funny)

Average_Joe_Sixpack (534373) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993196)

Manga has nothing on Ziggy

Re:pfffft .... (1)

geomon (78680) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993274)

You meant Zippy [zippythepinhead.com] , didn't you?

Re:pfffft .... (1)

suitepotato (863945) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993488)

The only thing as impenetrable for Americans as some manga would be Zippy the Pinhead.

Manga... by american writers/illustrators (1)

Wisgary (799898) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993215)

... huh?

Blasphemy (3, Interesting)

cryptochrome (303529) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993218)

If it ain't Japanese it ain't manga. They should have picked up Azumanga Daioh [amazon.com] .

Re:Blasphemy (1)

Wingie (554272) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993355)

Well, that's part of it. Also, Van Von Hunter? Peach Fuzz? They're above average sequential art pieces. However, neither of them really fit the newspaper format---something that you can pick up whenever you want. As parent said, Azumanga Daiou would be perfect for newspapers, since although there is continuity each strip is also standalone.

Re:Blasphemy (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993417)

"However, neither of them really fit the newspaper format---something that you can pick up whenever you want."

Not a follower of Prince Valiant, are we?

Re:Blasphemy (2, Insightful)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993395)

"If it ain't Japanese it ain't manga."

If it ain't American it ain't rock-and-roll?

Re:Blasphemy (1)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993561)

That's lock-and-loll to you...

Re:Blasphemy (1)

Mahou (873114) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993590)

no if it aint american it aint a 'toothbrush', or a 'house', or a 'cat'. it's the national-language-of-the-country's word for that object. in america, multiple drawings used to convey an event or narrative are called 'comics'. so we should call manga comics, but it's easier to say manga than japanese comic, since people like to make the distinction between comics made in america and japan. and it shows more respect since the comics industry in this country has been stunted and is mostly for kids.

How about accurate reporting? (4, Insightful)

teutonic_leech (596265) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993220)

Aaaah - manga to the rescue! If nothing else this shows how corrupt and clueless the American media landscape has become. After the obvious abandonment of objective reporting we experienced in the last three years, mixed with fabricated reports, a myopic coverage of world affairs, etc. it is manga that will get me to buy the paper now? Give me a break! If I want manga I either buy a printed copy dedicated to that genre, or buy a DVD, or if I'm really broke resort to eMule and co.
I frankly wonder what PR company issued that one - must be the one that constantly claims that 'suits are back!' - LOL

Re:How about accurate reporting? (1)

vermox (877880) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993372)

It may not be a real "bonus" for the actual buyer of the newspaper, but it _may_ help the younger audiences pick it up and become interested in reading news, I'm not saying every kid in every household will be interested in actual events just because of the inclusion of manga in the newspapers, but maybe some of them will realize they are not as boring as they may seem and start becoming aware of what's happening around them.

Re:How about accurate reporting? (1)

teutonic_leech (596265) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993617)

Really? Just go to the next Starbucks (or other evil coffee empire of your choice) and take a look around. If you're interested in the business or world news section it's easy picking and they are never hard to find. Most kids grab the local news or cartoon section. Case in point, yes - but I'm sure the kids are not the one actually buying that paper to read the 'funnies'. The 'funnies' were supposed to be a little icing on the cake - not the main ingredient you pick the dish for.

about damn time (1)

Brigadier (12956) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993233)



commic strips haven't changed much in genre since I was a kid (i'm 30). With the exception of boon docks every comic is double digit years old. Only being retired when the artists have passed on.

Re:about damn time (1)

Sabaki (531686) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993278)

And often, not even then...

Re:about damn time (2, Insightful)

amliebsch (724858) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993329)

Though I was pissed at the time, as time as passed, I have more and more begun to think that Bill Watterston (Calvin and Hobbes) did the right thing, in quitting as soon as he felt like it had become work, not fun. As a result, they are all good.

moD down (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993236)

star7 4 holy war

When are we getting complete japanese editions? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993241)

*Some undecipherable japanese characters here*

To Boost Readership? (1)

TheFlyingGoat (161967) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993243)

Seriously, how many people subscribe to a newspaper for the cartoons. How many of those people would still subscribe if there were NO cartoons in the paper? Finally, how many people would subscribe or unsubscribe from a newspaper based on the availability of 2 comics. I would guess no more than 1 out of every 1000 for that last one, with 1 out of 10000 being more likely.

While this is a cool thing, since I'll take a look at any new comic in the paper, I don't see it making any noticable impact on readership. Most papers would do better by coming up with a decent tech section and an Entertainment section with some interesting content. The Onion has a huge following just for their AV section, since they're well written and targeted at the teen-30 crowd. It's a good example to follow, newspapers.

A lot of people subscribe for the features (2, Interesting)

davidwr (791652) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993332)

In the 1980s and 1990s Belo bought newspapers across the country.

To quash competition in two-newspaper towns, they paid rediculous amounts for exclusive rights to features like comics and Dear Abby and Ann Landers.

People quit buying the competition and now we have a lot fewer two-newspaper cities.

Re:To Boost Readership? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993363)

Most papers would do better by coming up with a decent tech section

Ooh - I wonder if /. has considered syndicating! ;)

Re:To Boost Readership? (1)

Golias (176380) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993366)

I've got troubling news for you.

Dilbert, the horoscopes, and the NYT crossword are vastly more important to newspaper circulation than actual news coverage.

People who subscribe to newspapers don't care if it's a perfect source of accurate information regarding world events. They just want something to thumb through over their Special K before going to work, or read on the shitter once they get to work.

Re:To Boost Readership? (2, Informative)

InsideTheAsylum (836659) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993403)

There are 3 or 4 things that I read in the paper (in order), the comics, the editorial page, the police reports, and maybe, maybe, the front page. Comics /do/ sell the paper and thankfully my paper publisher listened to the complaints of many and cut the likes of Cathy (UGH!) out and put Dilbert (finally!) in. Were there no comics, I'd probably not ever read their newspaper.

Comics are important to newspapers (1)

LunaticTippy (872397) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993503)

Watching the Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News fight then sorta merge (while remaining separate, long story) I noticed how important comics are.
There are readers who switch newspapers and whine loudly when a single frickin comic (which I invariably don't even like) changes papers.

Comics are about as popular in our lunchroom as sports or the main section, and my first impression of both papers was based on which comics they had.

I often feel like a fool after reading the comics and not being amused even once, but I still read it every time I come across the paper.

Re:To Boost Readership? (1)

LurkerXXX (667952) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993591)

It's not that people are going to start buying a newspaper just for the cartoons. It's that kids now might start reading the comics in the paper that their parent's get every day. As they get older they might start reading some regular articles in the paper (be they dear abby or editorials, or real stories). The kids see getting a newspaper as a normal thing. Something that has stuff in it that they like. Those kids are porbably much more likely to subscribe to a newspaper than they grow up than ones who were exposed to newspapers that didn't have any comics that caught their eye in the first place.

I disagree... (1)

sp00n32 (664234) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993597)

I did not start reading the news paper because of the head lines or because of the Metro section. I started reading because of the comics. As I got older some of the headlines started to catch my eye and I read less Peanuts and more about the world around me. It is important to have comics kids will like as they are the future subscribers.

Basic Etymology (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993251)

'...it's long been a hit with the younger generation that grew up on Pokemon, Hello Kitty and Japanese animation movies or "anime" for short.'

No, anime is not short for "animation movies". "anime" is short for "animshon" (Animation in general), but anime is the actual Japanese word, not a daft English abbreviation or French derivation. Though given the quality of translation by those who are supposed to know what they're doing, it's hardly surprising...

Re:Basic Etymology (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993299)

anime is short for "animéshyon", not "animshon" or whatever you said...

UTF-8 is a bitch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993380)

First I tried the Katakana, but the whole lot got filtered. Failing that, I went for the above, spelt using the appropriately punctuated "e" (which I can't show, for obvious reasons). Only after I posted, did I realise that Slashdot had filtered the character...

Will it work? (1)

icuc22too (928307) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993259)

I wonder if adding manga would really encourage children to read the newspaper more.

Re:Will it work? (3, Interesting)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993550)

Considering Harry Potter's success, i'd say yes. Altho I doubt the kids will read the Finances section.

My parents used to buy the newspapers that had the comic strips that I liked. For my father there wasn't much difference between newspaper A or newspaper B, but I _HAD_ to see the comic strips. So he always bought newspaper A for me.

See, newspapers aren't aimed at kids. They're aimed at the PARENTS. The comic strips are just a marketing device, and manga inclusion is just a strategy to keep that market (people don't buy newspapers as often as 10 years ago). Since comic strips like Peanuts don't attract the young people right now, manga in newspapers was bound to happen, sooner or later.

Hmm (4, Interesting)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993270)

How about filling their newspapers with informative and well written articles that don't contain glaring factual errors? It seems like almost every article on a subject I know something about has blatant factual errors in it.

How about publishing the news as it happens? It seems like most of the articles in the New York Times cover things I knew about a week earlier.

How about not using anonymous sources, or at the very least outing the sources if they are proved to have been lying?

How about not pretending there is such a thing as unbiased reporting? Saying "one is lead to believe" instead of "I believe" is just another form of lying.

Re:Hmm (1)

drewxhawaii (922388) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993421)

It seems like most of the articles in the New York Times cover things I knew about a week earlier.

surely this has nothing to do with you being a long-time reader of /.

Re:Hmm (1)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993496)

While we're at it:

How about carrying all major sides to every divisive issue (rather than carrying only one to the left of Joe Stalin and mentioning others, if at all, only to deride them)?

How about giving an unbiased view of probabilities, rather than focusing on a few rare occurrences and ignoring commoner ones - without even mentioning in the reportage of the rarer events that they're the exception rather than the rule? (For instance: Covering every offensive firearm use or firearm accident as a national tragedy, but ignoring the much-more-common defensive, hunting, and sporting uses - to the point that even olympic firearms events are not carried by the network that buys the coverage rights.)

How about not fabricating news to fit the paper's agenda?

What's a "Newspaper"? (1, Funny)

istartedi (132515) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993280)

Where can I download it? 'nuff said.

Trendsetter (4, Interesting)

czarangelus (805501) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993282)

You know, this might be one of the smartest things anyone in the media has done recently. Even if it turns out to be an enormous flop (and I think it might have a chance of succeeding,) at least it's a new direction. They are at least trying to get out of their rut.

Re:Trendsetter (1)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993418)

You know, this might be one of the smartest things anyone in the media has done recently.

Could be. Manga is really taking off - this time last year, I'd never even seen translated manga. In January of this year I found a few in a specialty bookstore in San Francisco's Japantown. Now there is a large section of them at the local Barnes and Noble.

FR/BE (1)

trollable (928694) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993284)

Guess they weren't ready for serious drawing (aka bande dessinee franco-belge but not only). I don't like too much mangas, at least those I read. But I probably didn't read the good ones.

European comics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993300)

Being an imigrant in North-America from europe I notice that european comics are completly ignored here.
European comics are not alianated, scapism brain dead super hero comics.
European comics can have complex narrative and complex characters.
European comics can focus on all type of real problems in all types of forms,
comedy, tragedy what ever.
Any half brain, half educated european will have comics references for
his/her life and erudit conversations will often make references to comics
as to any other form of literature.
It's something I miss here...

have to point it out (0)

Amouth (879122) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993305)

sorry i was RTFA when i came apon this line

"Cibos, 23, is a self-taught manga artist who has never been to Japan and speaks no Japanese but grew up on the manga classic "Sailor Moon.""

and at that point i closed the browser window and came here to let everyone know.

Nothing to see here, please move along

Re:have to point it out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993375)

Let everyone know that you are a complete loser?

Of all the various zealots on Slashdot, the Anime/Manga/Hentai fans are by far the worst. You people are seriously fucked up.

Re:have to point it out (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993461)

you are assuming that i am a "Anime/Manga/Hentai" "zelot" i just couldn't stand TFA talking about bringing another cultures creation into ours and then pointing out that what they are publishing is a creation by someone that has never been in the other culture. I awas pleased by the idea that the papers where going in a diffrent direction but not happey with the way they are missleading it.

so before you flame (oh and if you flame people atleast login) feel free to think about what you read.

Re:have to point it out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993450)

Cibos doesn't speak Japanese and hasn't been to Japan, what's so bad about that?

Guess you don't like Sailor Moon but when it came out it was the only cartoon I knew about that had a plot with actual progression.

See, I would haved agreed with you if you attacked Cibos for watching Dragonball Z.

"Re:have to point it out" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993516)

"Re have to point it out"

Is that Engrish [engrish.com] for "We have to point it out"? How fitting for a manga story...

Heh (-1, Flamebait)

Moth7 (699815) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993308)

Give the religious right a couple of pages of Fake or Love Hina. They'll soon outlaw everything Japanese and we can all go back to torrenting/imports ;-)

Re:Heh (3, Interesting)

leoboiko (462141) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993388)

Love Hina? FAKE? I think you want Angel Sanctuary [wikipedia.org] .

The local anime convention was once held at a traditional Catholic school. The completely insane organizers decided to show Angel Sanctuary. I had the opportunity of watching it in a big screen between a giant statue of Mother Mary and another of a saint. The school never allowed another anime convention on its grounds. I think it was worth it :)

Nice Example (1)

Moth7 (699815) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993443)

The examples I gave were just the first ones that came to mind. I like yours better :p

I only read comics made in the USA (0, Flamebait)

Bootard (820506) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993316)

Well if you like foreigners taking amrican cartooning jobs from hardworking American cartoonists, you'll love this. Yet another example of corporate fat cats taking the bread out of John Q. AmericanCartoonist's mouth, along with mother and baby, by outsourcing his job to some foreign cartoonist. And if Ye Olde Fatte Cats do go ahead with this treasonous plan, they at least could have had the good taste to get rid of Jim Davis. That guy sucks

Re:I only read comics made in the USA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993354)

RTFA, it's manga created by an American cartoonist in the good ole US of A.

Re:I only read comics made in the USA (2, Informative)

kaleposhobios (757438) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993377)

C'mon, you didn't even read the summary. Both the manga are created by Americans.

What a shame. (1)

jasongetsdown (890117) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993344)

There are so many great comic artists who have been ignored for so long for the likes of Garfield (yawn) and Family Circus (shoot me). What a shame that they're going for the only genre that produces more cheap overdramatic and entirely unsubtle crap than Fox. There is some irony in the growing embrace of manga by americans though. The style was inspired by american cartoons after all. The only difference is that here we continue to treat comic art as kid stuff while in asia manga grew out of control like worms at chernoble.

Re:What a shame. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993470)

What a shame that they're going for the only genre that produces more cheap overdramatic and entirely unsubtle crap than Fox.
Since when is manga a genre?
The style was inspired by american cartoons after all.
Since when is manga a style?

Nobody's said it yet... (1)

Hosiah (849792) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993346)

Are they going to post instructions to read it right to left?

Anime section? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993348)

This article deserves to be in the anime section about as much as the last one that got put here: "Space Tourism Gets Another Passenger." Perhaps we need a "Americans Who Wish They Were Japanese" section... Now if you'll excuse me I have to go refresh Megatokyo over and over again until the next comic comes out.

am i the only one... (0, Troll)

drewxhawaii (922388) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993393)

...that is thoroughly annoyed by this?

I've read Van Von Hunter... (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993424)

and I've become a fan of it. It has very good jokes, and tries to imitate the japanese narrative style (altho not completely, but that's not a defect). It reminds me a bit of the Slayers series, and also has (very funny) references to anime videogames.

In comparison with american anime-like cartoons like Martin Mystery or Totally Spies (ack! Choke! Cough), VVH is much more anime-like, relatively speaking. And having seen garbage like digimon (eew) or DBZ (ugh), I say VVH has much more quality than them.

So no, VVH is NOT a heresy against the concept of Manga / Anime.

Regarding the inclusion of VVH in newspapers, I can say that it fits the format very well. It's done weekly, and altho it has a story, each strip doesn't need the reading of previous strips to get the joke. I personally recommend it to anyone.

Re:I've read Van Von Hunter... (1)

IntergalacticWalrus (720648) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993505)

FYI Martin Mystery and Totally Spies are French, not American.

Western != American

Re:I've read Van Von Hunter... (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993578)

Oh, thanks for the info. Hmmm now I think I understand why they suck so much :P

Van von Hunter? (0)

DarkSarin (651985) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993427)

Okay, seriously, that comic (call it what it is) is rarely, if ever, updated. Beyond that, it isn't the best of the online comics. I won't say what the best comic out there is (I read about 10 on a daily basis), because someone will certainly disagree with me--and I don't have my asbestos suit with me today.

Instead, let me critique Van Von Hunter on what I know of the comic, having read all the past strips up to some point in the middle of this summer. The story is interesting enough, but rather, politely put, scattered in its approach. Frequent tangents and odd, rather sudden, inclusions from what started out to be a fairly cohesive storyline all combine for a feeling that the author doesn't care that much about the story or characters. Instead, it feels very much like a part time hobby that he does because he can.

Manga (1)

spect3r (909619) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993431)

Is manga like Final Fantasy? No.. really?

wtf?1! Manga men? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993457)

wtf is teh manga? are gay satterdai nite lively dude?

Wtf? It will be americanized lame nothingness (2, Interesting)

Werrismys (764601) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993460)

Americans take what is brilliant, run it through a lamifying filter and end up with Fitz US style, Nikita US style. End result: lame, politically correct bullshit.

Manga killed my family. (0, Offtopic)

BEETROOT (929920) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993478)

and now it has a taste for blood.

w00t (1)

fuck technology (896306) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993501)

this shit is the cat's pajamas!!!

The new name of slashdot? (1, Funny)

PopeOptimusPrime (875888) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993510)

News for Losers. Stuff that noone cares about.

Damn them all... (1)

martinultima (832468) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993548)

I remember when comics and animation in general was all about well-drawn, more or less realistic, and actually decent quality work. Now it's all poorly animated, horrendously drawn, and flat-out ugly bullshit whose creators deserve to be shot.

And when it gets to the point where the newspapers are carrying this garbage, you know your once perfect country's gone for good.

The newspaper? (4, Funny)

Proudrooster (580120) | more than 8 years ago | (#13993568)

Newspaper? Aren't newspapers dead already? I thought that with inventions of Slashdot, Fark, and The Daily Show that everyone born after 1970 gets all the daily information they can use. Even old-school broadcast television is moving to the web. As of yesterday, you can now download NBC nightly news on the web.

For those of you still reading newspapers, STOP KILLING THE TREES already. We need the wood to rebuild Florida, Texas, and Lousiana before next hurricane season.

u tree huggin' hippy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#13993630)

If Eskimos can build igloos from snow and polar bear shit, why can't the cajuns rebuild their homes from swamp mud and gator testicles?
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