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Man Cures Himself of HIV?

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the hoaxes-and-other-pleasant-fiction dept.

Science 909

IZ Reloaded writes "A 25 yr old British man could be the first person in the world to have cured himself of the deadly HIV virus. He was diagnosed HIV positive in 2002. After another test done the following year, he stunned doctors when his test results turned negative. He is now a wanted man after researchers and doctors want him to come back for further testing but he has so far refused. Experts think he could have something in his immune system that may help in producing vaccines against HIV."

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How sure? (5, Interesting)

jrockway (229604) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024503)

What if the test was wrong? Maybe he didn't have AIDS when first tested, or maybe the test didn't pick it up this time. And why is the guy afraid to be retested?

Re:How sure? (4, Insightful)

ValiantSoul (801152) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024516)

Maybe he doesn't want to for the rest of his life be studied by some scientists. I would love to help people but I sure as hell wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life in front of doctors if I was in his position, I would rather continue a "normal" life (you know, normal, /. reading computer geek)

Science subject (4, Insightful)

Crizp (216129) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024553)

Most likely, if he agreed to testing, they'd only need a blood sample now and then. Take a pint. Instant research material, fresh from the cooler, for ages.

Wait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024560)

Are you saying that if you could help scientists to cure a disease that's killing hundreds of thousands of people every year by devoting a big chunk of your time, you WOULDNT do it? You know you'd get massively paid for it too (research grants).

But money aside, if I could save that many people just be submitting myself to some regular tests, I would.

Re:Wait (5, Funny)

Propagandhi (570791) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024588)

Are you saying that if you could help scientists to cure a disease that's killing hundreds of thousands of people every year by devoting a big chunk of your time, you WOULDNT do it?


Hey man, didn't you read the GP!? He wants a normal life. Can't you understand that watching 10-12 hours of TV a week, working some shitty job, and breeding is more important than curing a disease which will destroy millions of lives?

Re:How sure? (4, Funny)

nacturation (646836) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024643)

No research necessary -- the answer is in plain sight: "A 25 yr old British man could be the first people...

Clearly this man is more than one person, judging by the use of the word "people" when referring to an individual. Perhaps when the man was first tested it was his second person they tested. Upon subsequent tests, it's his first person. Case closed! Another fine caper solved by ScuttleMonkey.
 

Re:How sure? (1)

calyptos (752073) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024523)

If you found out you had HIV, would you ask for a retest just to be sure it wasn't a mistake? Or would you be all cool about it: "Oh, that sucks. Thanks for your help doctor, I have a hot date I have to go cancel now. See you at my next checkup."

No need to ask (5, Informative)

archeopterix (594938) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024566)

If you found out you had HIV, would you ask for a retest just to be sure it wasn't a mistake?
No need to ask for a retest. The standard procedure is to perform a retest if the first test is positive.

Re:How sure? (5, Insightful)

Crizp (216129) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024530)

As TFA said; he became depressed and suicidal when he got diagnosis. Then, he learns that it has gone away. I suspect that he's afraid that the next test he takes will be positive; probably not able to cope with that.

It's always a possibility the first, or second test was erroneous.

Re:How sure? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024538)

HIV != AIDS just to let you know
HIV is a precursor to AIDS

Re:How sure? (3, Informative)

caenorhabditas (914198) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024663)

Certainly a false positive is a problem. A friend of mine had a positive test for HIV come back after donating blood, which surprised him because he does not engage in the sort of risky behavior that typically puts one at risk for HIV infection.

From the article, it sounds like he only got two tests for HIV, so it's possible the first one was just a false positive. However, the description of him as suicidal and the fact that he waited so long before getting a second test seems to indicate that either he doesn't know much about HIV transmission or he did engage in behavior that put him at HIV infection risk.

Either way, I'm sure that researchers will find something interesting if he's willing to help out. If it wasn't a false positive and his body was able to clear itself of HIV, that would be quite an accomplishment.

First test (2, Interesting)

KiroDude (853510) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024504)

And who can guarantee the first tests he made were REALLY positive?

Infect Him Again (5, Funny)

ibemonty2000 (902165) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024507)

Lets infect him again and see if he can go 2 for 2. -Monty

Re:Infect Him Again (1)

Hina Matsuri (909664) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024544)

I'm no doctor, but couldn't you just take some samples of all his fluids and intoduce it to each of them?

Re:Infect Him Again (5, Informative)

rkww (675767) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024558)

He's already tried. According to the NotW [newsoftheworld.co.uk] Mr Stimpson said, "I'd read the research, I knew it had never happened before. I didn't understand how I could be negative after one year especially because I had been having unprotected sex with my [infected] partner after the diagnosis, believing we had nothing to lose."

He was going in for repeat tests every two months, so his status is well documented.

Re-Infect Him, yet again (4, Funny)

TiggertheMad (556308) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024593)

He's already tried.

Well, damn, I'm impressed.

Perhaps we should hit him with a dose of Anthrax and see if his immune system can whip up a cure for that, too while we are at it...

Re:Infect Him Again (2, Interesting)

arivanov (12034) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024594)

Well... Obvious question is "Which test?".

If it is bog standard ELISA it does not actually detect HIV. It detects antibodies produced against it. So if you do not have any immune responce to HIV whatsoever you will return a negative result.

There are other tests of course which are based on amplifying DNA off the original virus RNA template. Most of these are alpha quality and they are not done as a part of the normal testing procedure.

So the obvious question here is - what tests did he undergo.

Re:Infect Him Again (4, Informative)

Senjutsu (614542) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024623)

Well, it says that after he got the negative result, he sued the hospital for fucking up the first time and making him think he had AIDS. The article goes on to say "The results came back negative and Mr Stimpson began legal action against the trust, convinced there had been a mistake with the original diagnosis. But an extensive investigation, including DNA testing on his blood samples, has confirmed all the results". I'm not sure if that means "DNA testing to confirm both samples were his" or "DNA testing for vDNA pairs produced by the RNA transcription of the virus".

Re:First test (1)

famebait (450028) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024666)

There's this thing called antibodies. If you have them, you have been exposed to infection. If you don't, you have either never had it, or you have no immune response to it and would probably get very sick quite quickly.

Refused? (5, Informative)

Carthag (643047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024505)

I don't know where you get this, I saw an interview with him last night on TV, and he said he wanted to help other people, and that he was cooperating with scientists to figure out what caused the virus to disappear.

Re:Refused? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024532)

the bbc article reports him as having refused. seems likely he just wants to find a different place to be tested at

Re:Refused? (2, Informative)

Redwin (805980) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024569)

I don't know where you get this, I saw an interview with him last night on TV

From TFA:

A statement from the trust said: "This is a rare and complex case. When we became aware of Mr Stimpson's HIV negative test results we offered him further tests to help us investigate and find an explanation for the different results.

"So far Mr Stimpson has declined this offer."

A trust spokeswoman added: "We urge him, for the sake of himself and the HIV community, to come in and get tested.

Re:Refused? (1)

joey_knisch (804995) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024611)

Ohhhh..... and I was just about to start screaming for an involuntary blood, organ, and tissue harvest.

Oh well... there is always next year.

FUCK!!!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024510)

I read this on DIGG [digg.com] three days ago!!

Re:FUCK!!!!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024552)

Only lamers reads digg.

Re:FUCK!!!!!!! (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024554)

So, slashdot was quicker than usual this time?

Patent... (4, Funny)

xyvimur (268026) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024511)

Maybe he should patent himself, his DNA and other things ;)

Re:Patent... (1)

Jerry Talton (220872) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024564)

You should read Nancy Kress' Patent Infringement from the May 2002 edition of Asimov's. Science Fiction is all too often predictive of real life...

Re:Patent...MOD UP!!!! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024603)

Seriously, this is not "Funny". Check out Donna McClean from Bristol UK who HAS successfully patented herself and her entire genetic code. If this guy does have the autoimmune code to defeat AIDS he should be doing this RIGHT NOW to make sure it stays with the people, before any corporate weasels get a chance to 'discover' it.

Re:Patent...MOD UP!!!! (3, Insightful)

xyvimur (268026) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024676)

I know that it is not funny... It is like in many sci-fi... I liked the quote from Jonny Mnemonic - I don't remember it exactly, but the gist was: "The issue is not to heal people completly, the issue is to treat them and earn money".

But if we speak about funny ideas - the man seems to be willing to contribute to the research - so maybe he should state that all the results will be widely available (OpenSource license or something like that???)

Me too (0, Redundant)

bobbyw (890344) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024514)

I also saw him in many articles as quoted saying he'd love to help people, and would be working with scientists to try to make a cure.

"Refused" is wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024519)

"He has told the papers he would do anything he could to help find a cure."

He has said he will absolutely do everything he can to try and explain this, but I guess after preparing for death and then being told that you're going to live, you don't want to go back into hospital and be tested for the next 3 years right away.

Most likely explanation (4, Interesting)

Zog The Undeniable (632031) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024521)

Occam's Razor suggests that the original tests were wrong. I know he had multiple tests, but they're not 100% accurate.

There's something fishy about the way this story is being stage managed by the News Of The World (a notoriously downmarket and sensationalist paper). I predict an expose and retraction within the week.

Re:Most likely explanation (2, Insightful)

venicebeach (702856) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024546)

Occam's Razor suggests that the original tests were wrong

The simplest solution is not always the correct one. In this case, since the potential benefits are so great, it seems worth looking into the possibility that he beat the disease.

Re:Most likely explanation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024551)

The News of the World might be "down market" and sensationalist, but it has journalists who are just as good as other newspapers. Don't confuse sensationalist information with poor journalism, just because you don't like its tone.

Perhaps you can quote a few recent examples where the NoW has been incorrect?

Re:Most likely explanation (2, Insightful)

Llywelyn (531070) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024636)

Occam's Razor simply indicates which possibility is the *most likely* to be correct. It could have a probability of 1.5% when the next most likely outcome, which is more complicated, is at 1.49%. Further, it assumes that *everything else is equal*. If there were multiple tests, what percentage accuracy do you want across those tests before something else occurring becomes a more probable solution?

Yes, there is a chance that the original test was wrong, but there's also a chance of a true remission. Without more information than what was contained in the article, its hard to tell which is which, and it certainly warrants further tests.

Waht's next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024522)

HIV Defender? :)

Re:Waht's next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024563)

Spelling Nazi Defender!

money making opp (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024525)

If this guy was low enough, he could probably make a fair bit of money. Theres a lot of money in sucking in the desperate, which a lot of fraudulant 'doctors' cash in with in their so called cures for cancer etc.

With his story to back up his claims, he could rake in some dough teaching people how to defeat it, even if he doesn't really know himself, or doesn't actually cure anyone.

This guy wants compensation?! (1, Insightful)

j4mes (905786) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024531)

"He sought compensation but has apparently been told there is no case to answer because there was no fault with the testing procedure."

Seriously, this guy doesn't sound like the nice type at all: he won't cooperate to find out if he holds the key to cure a horific disease and tries to get compensation when it turns out he's healthy!

Re:This guy wants compensation?! MOD UP (1)

Propagandhi (570791) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024576)

No shit. Obviously he had unprotected sex with someone somewhere, or he would have known the test was a false positive (I won't buy that he 'cured himself' until someone other than the News of the World is reporting it.) Everytime you have unprotected sex with someone you're taking a risk. I don't see how he can blame the doctors for his risky behavior.

Hell, I'm sure there're millions of HIV infected who would be more than a little happy to hear they aren't actually infected. The kind of person that can't take this kind of news ('Hey, turns out you're not going to die in the next 5 to 12 years!') with a laugh, a smile, and a hug is an asshole and deserves to die of AIDS.

And yeah, this is a bitter post. But think about it, this asshole's been spared by the cosmos while a million innocent children in Africa will die in the next few years. What's his reaction? Try and get "compensation."

Stupid.

Re:This guy wants compensation?! MOD UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024620)

*sigh* who did you loose?

Sure, let's blame the victim... (1)

Llywelyn (531070) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024675)

Obviously he had unprotected sex with someone somewhere

So has most of the non /. adult population of the world

Besides, it's not even necessarily true. I'll agree that it is the most likely, but it doesn't take much of a hole viral particles to slip through a condom.

And yeah, this is a bitter post. But think about it, this asshole's been spared by the cosmos while a million innocent children in Africa will die in the next few years.

...and I eat well every day and am finicky about food when children are starving all over the world. Oh no, the horror.

Sorry if that came across as callous, but in almost any situation you can find someone worse off than you are and someone better off. I just went through a bloody hurricane, the last thing I need is for people to be telling me that "oh, but that wasn't so bad compared to that earthquake in Pakistan" or "It is your fault for living below sea level."

Re:This guy wants compensation?! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024591)

He sought compensation but has apparently been told there is no case to answer because there was no fault with the testing procedure."

Seriously, this guy doesn't sound like the nice type at all: he won't cooperate to find out if he holds the key to cure a horific disease and tries to get compensation when it turns out he's healthy!


nothing in the article said that he was unwilling to help, he said he didn't want to be retested. actually, this bbc article has been changed since i read it a couple days ago, and in the original article, it mentioned him saying he would like to do whatever he can to help find a cure.

about the suing for compensation, it might seem unreasonable because he doesn't have HIV now, but imagine you were diagnosed with a terminal disease, and your life sinking until you want to commit suicide. sounds reasonable to sue for punitive damages to me. then again, the testing people probably have some sort of "not 100% guaranteed" clause in some sort of medical form you have to sign.

Re:This guy wants compensation?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024610)

How do you know "he won't cooperate to find out if he holds the key to cure a horific disease"?

Re:This guy wants compensation?! (1)

ilitirit (873234) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024645)

To be honest, I'd probably do the same thing if I thought they made a mistake. Imagine what it must have been like for him and his family finding out he was HIV+

Re:This guy wants compensation?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024650)

Quote from Scrubs:

bad doctor: "He's not sick? - Sound like good news!"
dr reid: "Well, he took it as bad news for the un-necesary colonescope I had to shove up his pooper"

And what is wrong with compensation?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024656)

If you were diagnosed as having AIDS and then latter told you didn't have it wouldn't your first instinct be that the original test was wrong. It also mentions that he felt suicidal when he found out he had HIV. If it was a misdiagnosis and he was clinically depressed as a result I don't think it is terrible for him to expect some form of compensation.

Regarding the non cooperation. As others have pointed out he has also stated that he will help out. I think the issue here is that he did not want to go back to hospital right away and furthermore wanted to go to another hospital (which is perfectly understandable).

Don't be so quick to paint the guy as the Devil incarnate. He has been through a pretty unusual and stressful experience.

It's not surprising (4, Interesting)

ReformedExCon (897248) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024533)

It's certainly unusual and unexpected in such a short period of time, but it ought not be surprising that some people may have immune systems that can fight the HIV virus. It's evolution in action.

The Plague, which ravaged Europe and decimated its urban populations may be one reason the immunity (or strong resistance, if you prefer) to HIV was found first in a European. Those who survived the Plague, among those who were exposed to it, had a genetic trait that gave them immunity. This may be one reason why Europeans are generally less susceptible to the virus than other ethnicities whose populations were not exposed to a very widespread and violently virulent disease.

Good news for this guy! Hopefully the answer to the disease is found in his bloodstream.

Re:It's not surprising (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024562)

We proud Arians are a superior race.

Re:It's not surprising (1)

MidnightBrewer (97195) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024575)

Except that no two viruses are created equal. Just because you survived the bubonic plague (several centuries ago) does not guarantee you'll have the right physiology to fight a completely unrelated disease.

Considering that the US was settled largely by Europeans, you'd think there'd be a high chance of European-descended AIDS-immune cases there as well.

Re:It's not surprising (5, Insightful)

caenorhabditas (914198) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024628)

Actually, knowing a bit about the mechanisms both the Yersinia pestis bacteria and HIV use to cause illness, it's not surprising that developing a resistance to one causes resistance to the other. Both attack the same T cells in the immune system, and both even bind to the same CD4 receptor of the T cells. Thus, mutations in the CD4 receptor that are still functional to the organism but disallow the binding by the pathogen would create a form of immunity.

Certainly, not every form of plague immunity would translate to HIV immunity, but because of the similarities between the two pathogens, some types do transfer.

Other cases of HIV immunity (3, Interesting)

jurt1235 (834677) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024608)

In some countries in Africa scientists also discovered that certain prostitutes did not have aids. Since the infection rate is extremely high, they interviewed does prostitutes and concluded that the only reason that they did not have aids was or extreme luck (win powerball lottery everytime), or immunity against the virus. They also thought they could use these women for their research. After the initial news I have not seen any other news about this anymore.

Re:It's not surprising (1)

wall0159 (881759) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024609)

Yes, it's not so surprising that there is a person who can fight AIDS. The fact that he's European is neither here nor there. Since AIDS has no known link to plague, it's unlikely that there'd be any advantage in exposure to plague.

"..were not exposed to a very widespread and violently virulent disease." is simply untrue. I can't remember the exact details of the plagues, but at least one of the outbreaks of plague originated in China (quick search: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bubonic_plagu e_outbreaks [wikipedia.org] ).

Anyway, aside from that, there've been MANY other virulent diseases! ;-)

Re:It's not surprising (1)

ReformedExCon (897248) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024622)

This is a link to another Slashdot post by another user, but I thought it would be interesting in response to your comment.

Also, see my other post in this thread regarding the extremely low incidence of AIDS (not HIV infection) among Asians.

CCR5 mutation (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024654)

The reason some people are resistant to the plague, and HIV, is due to a mutation in the CCR5 gene [wikipedia.org] . This gene encodes an immune system cell surface protein that HIV uses to bind to the cell. People missing this gene generally can't get infected with HIV.

This has been known for quite some time and is not news. This guy most likely has the CCR5 mutation. Lucky for him, but it ain't a cure for the other 90% of the population.

he's not the first (4, Interesting)

PermanentMarker (916408) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024534)

There have been more reports of people who cured themselves alltough they are exremly rare. Anyway it is how evolution works, by random creations and statistics i gues in the end a few survive. How would they test this man i wonder? Would they clone his bone cells to to make white bloodcells? what's next in genetics analyse thos cells and combine with people who survived other diseases, and then give everyone a DNA upgrade ?

Re:he's not the first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024658)

magic johnson?

Article lacking in details (4, Insightful)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024535)

For example, what kind of test did he use? Most of the HIV tests actually test for antibodies, not the HIV virus itself. It is completely possible, and does happen on occaision, that the body will produce antibodies that are similiar to HIV antibodies but there is no HIV in the body. The antibodies don't do anything, but they do confirm the presence of the virus. The body then could have later stopped producing the antibodies.

Editorial error (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024536)

From headline:

He is now a wanted man after researchers and doctors want him to come back for further testing but he has so far refused.


From TFA:

He has told the papers he would do anything he could to help find a cure.

Re:Editorial error (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024570)

It's not an editorial error, it's an inconsistancy in the behaviour of the allegedly cured man. He says he wants to help the scientists, but he's not willing to go through the tests. It seems likely that he's an attention whore.

I knew it! (5, Funny)

scooter.higher (874622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024567)

The Flying Spaghetti Monster proves once again that evolution does not happen by chance! This man must be a pirate, or a Pastafarian at a minimum!

Re:I knew it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024653)

I suspect it is because he eats pasta and noodles and the FSM has taken pity upon him in his plight. Plus, I suspect he has a noodly appendage himself...

First? What about the African Prostitutes et.al.? (5, Interesting)

Xyleene (874520) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024568)

I'm sure I am not the only one that has seen documentries that include African prostitutes that have gathered a similar immunity to the virus. One of them was a Nova episode that aired on PBS last week (atleast I think it was last week). The women are exposed to the disease many times per day but seem unnafected by it. This sounds like a similar case for the following reasons:

Article [aegis.com]

The article states that 1) The prostitutes are completely void of the virus and 2) The trait is not genetic. Therefore I assume that the people contract the virus and their immune system then deals with it. In this man's case if the first test was done before his immune system kicked in and the second one after then this could explain the result.

P.S. I am not a doctor or in the medical field so I leave myself open to corrections. (and not just for my english ;0)

Re:First? What about the African Prostitutes et.al (1)

archeopterix (594938) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024607)

I'm sure I am not the only one that has seen documentries that include African prostitutes that have gathered a similar immunity to the virus.
From what I have read, no evidence shows that the immunity has been 'gathered'. It's genetic - you have it or you don't, right from your birth. High risk groups, like African prostitutes have a higher percent of people with this gene - not because they aquire it, but because the susceptible die off.

Re:First? What about the African Prostitutes et.al (2, Interesting)

Senjutsu (614542) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024657)

From his link:

"The most probable explanation for the finding of HIV-specific CTL, able to kill virus-infected cells, in apparently uninfected but repeatedly HIV-exposed women is that they have been immunized by exposure to HIV," notes Dr. Sarah Rowland-Jones of the Molecular Immunology Group at Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford.

That would seem to contradict your genetic theory.

Re:First? What about the African Prostitutes et.al (5, Informative)

ilitirit (873234) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024617)

I leave myself open to corrections

Addendum: Prostitutes lose HIV immunity [bbc.co.uk]

A group of prostitutes thought to be immune to HIV have now become infected, causing dismay to scientists hoping to develop an Aids vaccine.

Maybe... (5, Informative)

HaveQuick (755912) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024572)

It is possible that this guy could have cured himself of HIV. There are a number of possibilities...

1) He was infected with a weakened serotype of HIV.
2) He has some unusual CCXR gene polymorphisms or some other gene defect leading to reduced ability of HIV to replicate, or the ability to clear the virus.

It is possible the original test was wrong. However, in virtually all labs I know of, on a positive test there is a repeat and follow up test done. This normally a western blot. So, the odds of the result being wrong is exceedingly low.

If this is for real... this guy is the luckiest son of a bitch alive.

What in the world? (1)

CriminalNerd (882826) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024578)

If this guy DID cure himself of the HIV virus, then this would be the turning point in medical science! Maybe he had the delta 32 gene in him? Like the one this [slashdot.org] article had reported on. Or at least some mutation of it...

Wanted: females (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024580)

Willing females wanted to have unprotected sex with this man in order to increase human kernel stability and eventually preserve the human race. Only respond with picture, please.

555-letshivsex

Old news... already happened in africa... (3, Interesting)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024592)

Already some years ago I read that some aficans born in those areas with high aids distribution were born with a natural mutation making them immune to aids. Several laboratorys tried to extract a medicament out of it.

I wonder what happened to it...

But to have a second mutation for immunity are great news... Now i hope it does not get sweeped unter the carpet from big companies earning money with selling syptopm-fighting medicaments that don't *really* help at all...

sex unlimited ? :D (1)

l3v1 (787564) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024601)

Well, first thing I thought was the initial test probably was wrong. Second thing I though was is this is true he can have sex the rest of his life without being afraid of aids. Well, this is /. and I'm here ,what did you expect ? :D
 

Re:sex unlimited ? :D (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024670)

Second thing I though was is this is true he can have sex the rest of his life without being afraid of aids.

Now all he has to worry about is venerial diseases, pregnancies, expensive SOs and impotency. What a lucky guy.

HIV is getting milder (3, Interesting)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024616)

it is not in the interest of any disease to kill its host. the disease wants your body to replicate it and spread it. a dead body for a disease is a dead end

so what happens after the initial explosion of cases is that a disease evolves to limit mortality: the germs that get passed on are the ones that are able to somehow keep the host alive as long as possible to continue the spread. the point is to commandeer the body to replicate as many copies as possible and spread it for as long as possible, but not to sap the body's resources so much as to kill the host. the HIV you could get today can kill you, but not as fast and with not as much certainty as the HIV you could get in 1985

killer pandemics happen because a virus or bacteria stumbled by mistake into the good fortune of easy spread amongst a population of animals, the mortality is just an unwanted side effect. this is true of the spanish flu of 1918 too: what once could kill you easily, well you yourself probably got that exact same strain sometime in your life, and it was probably a mild case of the flu or sniffles

this attenuation is true of all diseases. but don't let it fill you with false confidence. the flu or HIV can still kill you, easily. just a little less easily

Re:HIV is getting milder (2, Insightful)

lostlogic (831646) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024664)

You're confused -- HIV is already a slow killer, and that is why it's scary. Death by HIV generally takes years, and it can go undetected for much of that time. Its speed-of-mortality is not what is stopping HIV from becoming epidemic, the fact that it is not yet airborne is what's stopping it. See comments in the Bird Flu Pandemic article for more on this, but to summarize, a disease that kills its host before it has a chance to spread will become milder until it has a better chance to spread, just by natural germ selection. Even _if_ HIV's mortality is higher than ideal, the long lifespan of the infected means that there is no strong / fast reason for it to evolve weaker.

Complimentary to the article: African hookers (2, Informative)

NRAdude (166969) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024630)

I read about African prostitutes being immune to HIV. Apparently, a verry small number of people down in only the hundredths of people exposed to HIV, are naturally resistant. Instinctively I remember that those African prostitutes agreed to be "studied" by the UNITED STATES pharmaceutical corporations to know the peculiarities of their immunity to HIV, they mysteriously lost their immunities to HIV and fell immune. There were around a hundred prostitutes to volunteer, and they all all lost their immunity. I couldn't find the exact article, but this article of HIV immunity in the Year 1998, [66.102.7.104] has some of that same information with prostitutes in Thailand and Kenya.

"Kings need to know these things."

Please consider this... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14024646)

Has anyone really stopped to consider the statistical problems here? How many people have potentially "cured" themselves of HIV without ever knowing they were infected? How many cases never turned into part of the statistics on infection rate vs fatality rate by never being detected and never presenting the symptoms? It is like finding 10,000 dead bodies in an area that all suffered the same death and assuming that whatever killed them was 100% fatal just by the sheer number, however, without some investigation into what the original population was, how many were infected, etc, the assumtion is horribly flawed. Let's not jump to conclusions about him being the potential saviour of HIV/AIDS patience. Given his apparent attitude about not going back to help, his lip service about wanting to help, and the issue of seeking compensation...he is hardly deserving of any of that type of attention beyond being disected to check his biology out.

Everything old is new again (2, Interesting)

Kawahee (901497) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024649)

It's nothing 'new', there have been reports from Africa of this happening ever since the outbreak, but because of their developing nation status they haven't had the technology to confirm it, and nobody's bothered investigating.

It's sort of sad that it's taken this long to confirm.

I don't believe it... (2, Insightful)

TropicalCoder (898500) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024661)

Without further testing, there is no reason to believe this story. There is no precedent for this. The prostitutes from Africa supposedly remained free of HIV infection in spite of exposure, while they are saying this man had been infected, but was cured spontaneously. It's one of those stories we would all like to believe to be true, and therefore deserves the greatest amount of skepticism.

Some explanations... (3, Interesting)

John Leeming (160817) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024665)

First, his wanting compensation was his initial reaction...you are told you have HIV, an incurable disease, and you plan what remains of your life. Then, the doctor says, "Ooops! We're wrong! You're going to live!"

Immediate reaction: Sue the moron who screwed up your test. And anyone who says otherwise is a liar, because you know we all would do just that in any typical situation, right?

However, in his likely initial investigation, with solicitor in tow, he finds out that, DAMN! He is cured after all!

WTF?

Now...stop and consider the situation.

He's cured. He's alive. Barring suicide or accident, he's now the world's documented repository for The Cure for AIDS.

He's facing a life sentence now, literally, of being drained of his blood on a regular basis, having it shipped all over the world, and essentially being better protected than George W. Bush visiting a gay cowboy coke bar.

Unless and until they can isolate his factor, whether blood, genetic, mutational or whatever, he is going to be a prisoner of his condition...and Ghod help him if some pharmaceutical corporate patents his blood and makes him pay up or give up.

Whether he wants to cooperate or not is going to be moot...sooner or later, he will be drafted/conscripted/incarcerated under some obscure public safety law and turned into State property in the UK/SCotland. If he were in the US, he'd be stamped "PROPERTY OF HALLIBURTON" and turned into a rich person's personal inoculation center.

He may _want_ to cooperate and be sure everyone who needs to be is cured.

Reality, on the other hand, is likely smashing him in the face and making him well aware of what the future holds for him.

His only hope is that we find others like him, or find out it's a relatively simple procedure to duplicate what his body is doing and mass-produce it...and even then, it's highly doubtful that the medical companies will ever let him see a penny for it.

Too cynical? Too bad.

Subsequent tests... (2, Funny)

PeteDotNu (689884) | more than 8 years ago | (#14024673)

Upon performing further tests, they subsequently returned results of positive, negative, flegative, bogative, rogative and spigative.
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