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Google Base Launches

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the google-cheerleading-overlords dept.

Google 337

An anonymous reader writes "As announced on the Google Blog, Google Base has finally launched. According to Google, Google Base enables content owners to easily make their information searchable online. Anyone, from large companies to website owners and individuals, can use it to submit their content in the form of data items. We'll host the items and make them searchable for free."

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Good for 'public' sites (4, Interesting)

b0r1s (170449) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041540)

But bad for private intranet sites. For anything where privacy is significant, the Google appliance (or Google mini) will still be in high demand. The

Re:Good for 'public' sites (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041587)

Well obviously. Why would Google deliberately introduce a service that would obviate the need for

Re:Good for 'public' sites (5, Interesting)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041593)

Good for 'public' sites But bad for private intranet sites

I'm not certain that it's "good" for anything. Pretty much all the previous Google apps were something you could "get" just by checking into it quickly. However, most regular people don't truly understand the concept of a formal database. As a result, we usually need other metaphors to help them understand the databases their using. (e.g. A filing system, a card index, etc.)

What Google Base is proposing is very interesting (though of dubious use at the moment), but I just don't think that users are going to be rushing to grab ahold. Users will continue to keep their recipes on their computers or Recipe Database websites, jobs will continue to be posted on Monster, and life will otherwise continue on as is.

Nice try Google, but I think this one has a long way to go until it's out of Beta.

Re:Good for 'public' sites (4, Insightful)

DMouse (7320) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041731)

Don't you see that it's not about being useful for joe average, but as a way for people to feed google pre-digested data feeds that describe their websites. This is a white hat search engine optimisation tool. And the fact that you can upload content using ftp to upload rss files just makes it a walk in the park. Really, too friggen easy.

The fact that I am thinking about uploading my local job site's content just so that i can actually search it is beside the point, right? ;-)

...but for how long? (3, Interesting)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041750)

Google to me seems like a new Catholicism. Everything consolidated under a monolithic central power with a mandate of "doing no evil". They send missionaries in the form of Bots and Ad Words to uncharted territory seemingly to help netizens in the wild, while gathering statistical data about what large masses of people are doing where, when and why. With this they can build their own versions of everything. Your home (page) is nothing compared to their cathedral. Heathens flock to it and erode their old societies under Google (capital G).

Yeah, it's a far stretch, but it's 2:18 am.

Re:Good for 'public' sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041805)

Yeah you're right, nothing will ever change. Fuckit, why bother doing anything unless it's perfect the first time. It's the end of history.

Brain the size of a planet...

Re:Good for 'public' sites (2, Interesting)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041871)

What Google Base is proposing is very interesting (though of dubious use at the moment), but I just don't think that users are going to be rushing to grab ahold. Users will continue to keep their recipes on their computers or Recipe Database websites, jobs will continue to be posted on Monster, and life will otherwise continue on as is.

Maybe until they start noticing that their Google Base content start appearing in their main index, Froogle, and other services. It says this may happen if the relevancy is good enough on Google Base. Quite a deal for being free.

Re:Good for 'public' sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041689)

Parent is not offtopic. Mod abuse, mod abuse!

Re:Good for 'public' sites (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041791)

Great! Now you can search for people in your local area selling their souls:

http://base.google.com/base/search?q=souls+for+sal e [google.com]

I LIKE FORST PIST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041541)

FP FP FP FP WIN

Has to be said (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041544)

All your Google base are belong to us.

Re:Has to be said (4, Funny)

Dante Shamest (813622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041600)

Balmer retorts: You have no chance to survive make your time.

Re:Has to be said (4, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041614)

Jobs exclaims: What you say?

Re:Has to be said (0)

Doomstalk (629173) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041633)

Somebody set up us the bomb... er, Vista.

Re:Has to be said (2, Funny)

Deathbane27 (884594) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041678)

Cache all 'Zig'!

Re:Has to be said (2, Funny)

S. Ballmer (931150) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041705)

Someone set up us the chair!

Re:Has to be said (1)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041890)

anti-thrust jury panel: For great justice.

Re:Has to be said (1)

joe_n_bloe (244407) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041667)

Damn, both of you were just too quick on the draw. I didn't even *see* it ....

*sigh*

Sim Earth (1)

aywwts4 (610966) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041748)

And here I was reading the title thinking google had reached the nanotech age of enlightenment and launched itself into space like at the end of sim-earth.

Re:Has to be said (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041785)

When will this joke ever die?

Re:Has to be said (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041834)

When will this joke ever die?

You have no chance to survive make your time.

Oh great (3, Funny)

fmwap (686598) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041556)

Great, so now our top results are going to be clutered with samples of the info we're really looking for

Thanks, google

Re:Oh great (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041645)

Dude, if you're going to hassle Google, you're going to get modded down. You must be new here.

Google says (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041561)

All your base are belong to us.

I'm sorry, I had to.

World Domination (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041562)

I'm paying even odds that in twenty years, Google is the oppressive world government. They've add their fingers to 10 or 15 big new pies per week, and it's only a matter of time before they get to the governmental one.

Re:World Domination (5, Funny)

yamum (893083) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041591)

Yeah but it'll be a government running Linux!

Re:World Domination (3, Insightful)

Patrik_AKA_RedX (624423) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041635)

Well, it would be the first oppressive regime that makes information easily available to its minions.

Re:World Domination (1)

coralsaw (904732) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041776)

... but similar to all other oppresive regimes it 'crawls' all over its minions too. Unless of course you walk around with a robot.txt tatoo on your shoulder.

Data integrity (4, Insightful)

afaik_ianal (918433) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041564)

Does anyone know what they are planning on doing to make sure data is up to date?

I can just see things happening like a school putting up all of their course information and not keeping it up to date.

Re:Data integrity (5, Informative)

puppetman (131489) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041597)


The company I work for has been participating in this for a few months now. We upload content once per night. Data items that were in the feed from the night before are removed if they aren't in the most current feed.

Data is expired if there is no activity on it after a period of time. There is also an expiration date.

Like Froogle (5, Informative)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041675)

Data is expired if there is no activity on it after a period of time. There is also an expiration date.

This is more or less what was done with companies wishing to have their product database indexed within Froogle.

It was actually a nice implementation for a complicated process, and it only took them a week to approve our data feed and begin listing our items.

We upload a new feed as frequently as we need to.

Re:Data integrity (1)

truckaxle (883149) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041828)

How exactly is this different than froogle....

Re:Data integrity (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041604)

I think this is a real issue. Like Wikipedia, this idea has great potential. Like Wikipedia, this will have many problems. What's to stop this from suffering under a heavy load of spam, honest mistakes, and deliberate mischeif?

Re:Data integrity (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041648)

That's the user's problem, not Google's you whiny bitch!

Re:Data integrity (2, Funny)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041664)

Does anyone know what they are planning on doing to make sure data is up to date? I can just see things happening like a school putting up all of their course information and not keeping it up to date.

Yes, because the web itself contains no broken links and no outdated information. It would be criminal to pollute such a reliable resource.
--
Kerry/Edwards 2004 !!!!! I love SONY!!!!

Re:Data integrity (3, Insightful)

afaik_ianal (918433) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041703)

I agree that there are a lot of mistakes on the web, but I'd expect it to be harder to keep Google Base up to date because if an organisation is going to make a website, they have a lot more work to do up front (register a domain, buy hosting, create the actual site).

I imagine it would be quite common for someone from an IT department to hear about Base, decide to put up ad hoc info about his organisation, then forget about it. That's far less likely for a website.

Further to that, websites are currently organisations' primary presence on the internet. A secondary presence like Base is likely to fall by the way side before their website does.

Jeepers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041565)

Is google the realworld borg?

Oh who cares its all futile.

What exactly goes into base? (4, Interesting)

obli (650741) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041566)

What exacty goes into base? As I've understood it everything is supposed to go into Google base, right?

Could wikipedia be imported to Google base?

Google Consolidating All Info For Advertising? (5, Insightful)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041569)

The example that comes to mind here is recipes.

There are many independent websites that offer recipes and make a few bucks with Google Ads. Now if users start entering all their recipes in Google Base, google can still run the advertisement but no longer has to pay a third party.

News For Nerds, is technically an item that could also be entered in the Base. In theory, with all the editorial mistakes and dupes, that we all know and love, the only thing that's really holding everything together is the community.

If they host everything, and it's better than all the websites that host their own info in order to run advertisements, then those websites will disappear with time.

Restricted to "content owners"? (2, Insightful)

ReformedExCon (897248) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041570)

Does the TOS really restrict this? And does such a clause make it necessary for them to police the database for infringements?

Not All Your Base Are Belong To Us Anymore (-1, Redundant)

BikeRacer (810473) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041573)

It's now: All our base are belong to Google.

Scary Pace (4, Interesting)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041574)

Is it me or does it seem like Google is average 1 new service/product every 2 months or so. This is a scary pace. The part I am most amazed by is that ALL their services scale very well.

Re:Scary Pace (1)

RWerp (798951) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041668)

Dude, this is the new monopoly coming in. Google$ it will be called on Slashdot anytime soon.

Secret Ingredient (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041698)

The part I am most amazed by is that ALL their services scale very well.

Most people probably don't know about this, (and it's why they're so secretive about letting people see their data centers). See, the secret is actually that their entire supercomputing grid is based on the unreleased Microsoft Windows Cluster Vista 2006, which they license on a per-processor basis. This advanced technology, developed by Microsoft, is what allows them to attain such mind-boggling customizability, scalability, and response time.

Re:Scary Pace (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Writer (746272) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041773)

Is it me or does it seem like Google is average 1 new service/product every 2 months or so. This is a scary pace.

I agree. I actually think this can be confusing. It's great they're producing so many interesting things, but I keep having to hear about them by "word of mouth" in online discussions. Otherwise, I wouldn't even know they existed. It would be useful if they actually provided some simple notification of updates to the services they provide, possibly just some small blurb on search result pages or something. And they need to do something like make a menu of all their services just a click away from any main project page, search result page, or any other page from their site. Sure, they have the Google Labs [google.com] page, but at the moment that doesn't even mention Google Base. They need to consolidate navigating through these services in their interface. By the way, have you heard of Google Moon [google.com] ?

Re:Scary Pace (4, Informative)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041864)

It would be useful if they actually provided some simple notification of updates to the services they provide, possibly just some small blurb on search result pages or something.

You could always join the Google Friends newsletter:
http://www.google.com/contact/newsletter.html [google.com]

It sounds great, just like Wikipedia (5, Insightful)

MattskEE (925706) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041577)

Like Wikipedia, this idea has great potential. Like Wikipedia, this will have many problems. What's to stop this from suffering under a heavy load of spam, honest mistakes, and deliberate mischeif?

Re:It sounds great, just like Wikipedia (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041660)

Well, actually, this is not like wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so it is restricting itself in the kind of information and the way it is presented. My Honda civic car would not be relevant to Wikipedia (Pope Benedict's former Volkswagen however gained some relevance during it's ebay selling - so does the car of JFK during his Dallas visit).

And, of course, it is a wiki.

Google Base is not an encyclopedia and it is not a wiki. It is offering a much more flexible way of storing data while making it public - combined with the usual way of making it searchable in an easy way.

Re:It sounds great, just like Wikipedia (2, Funny)

mateomiguel (614660) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041709)

These days, my experiences on the internet make me wonder how the world itself can survive under a heavy load of spam, honest mistakes, and deliberate mischief. Can someone explain that to me?

mod parent up (1)

moultano (714440) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041740)

I only write this because it is likely to be missed.

ok... (-1, Redundant)

Godman (767682) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041586)

All your google base are belong to us?

API Interface (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041589)

I wonder if Google will have any plans to create an API for base, or at least integrate it into their existing search API. It would be pretty neat to be able to create applications that would automatically submit the information for you, rather than having to perform the bulk-upload method that I suppose *could* be automated...

Thoughts?

So wait... (3, Insightful)

Ctrl+Alt+De1337 (837964) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041590)

So, regular Google is their search crawlers going out and indexing information, while Google Base is people submitting information to be indexed in categories that submitters assign themselves. Is that right? Or is there more to this? Is this like a subsection of the search engine, or an informal free webhosting service? I'm just not sure of what this is or why it's necessary.

Didn't work for me (3, Informative)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041594)

I tried publishing something and it told me I published over 200 articles already. Then I clicked 'save draft', and it gave me an error.

Re:Didn't work for me (3, Informative)

thesnarky1 (846799) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041609)

If you login, this goes away. It probably means that some 'guest' user has put up 200 posts in total. Good to make sure people register email with you, huh?

will this be another wikipidia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041595)

sound like single (as in url location) database of massive information to me.

Just sayin... (4, Funny)

GreggyBUIUC (262370) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041596)

... I really [google.com] wish [google..com] I would [google.com] have [google.com] got [google.com] some [google.com] of [google.com] that [google.com] IPO [google.com] a [google.com] while [google.com] back [google.com] ...

Re:Just sayin... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041630)

Oh yeah, I got in at $100/share. I'm holding on to it. As a web developer, if I can't beat them, I may as well own them. :)

API? (4, Interesting)

protohiro1 (590732) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041598)

If they release an api for this...holy crap. How incredibly useful. One could, say, write a content management system that runs on google base rather than mysql or whatever. Or who knows what other cool shit the hackers will come up with. This concept is SO powerful its kind of...freaky. So much of the internet could fit onto this one little idea.

Re:API? (4, Insightful)

hagrin (896731) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041715)

There will still be a need for mySQL/SQL Server/other DB options for certain types of applications like forums, etc. However, you're 100% right, with an API the possibilities are endless in terms of what you could include in their indexing.

The one factor that will keep this happening is performance and speed. Adding an additional 2 hops for database content won't make much sense for web applications. I can't see replacing local network queries with external queries to Google's Base system. Good call though on the API.

Re:API? (2, Insightful)

DysenteryInTheRanks (902824) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041747)

How incredibly useful. One could, say, write a content management system that runs on google base rather than mysql or whatever.

I know! Just imagine: the sophistication of a MySQL database plus the speed of an HTTP connection!

It's sort of like putting your money in a piggybank -- a piggybank not in your bedroom, but on *the other side of town*.

Re:API? (2, Funny)

masdog (794316) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041857)

It's sort of like putting your money in a piggybank -- a piggybank not in your bedroom, but on *the other side of town*.

Like a bank?

Re:API? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041856)

oooh! aaahh! You sound like you just discovered your penis.

you're a fucking idiot.

I'm disappointed... (4, Funny)

HellsAngel (582912) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041615)

for a minute there I thought they were finally launching Copernicus Center [google.com] , their Lunar base.

Google base is broken (1)

afarhan (199140) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041617)

I tried the google base. i tried creating a new content-type called 'Presence' it crashes with the message '-5.5'. the site is unstable as of now.

Re:Google base is broken (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041865)

That's funny. I ran it for 3 seconds and it was incredibly stable!

Check out the program policies page (3, Informative)

wordisms (624668) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041620)

http://base.google.com/base/base_policies.html/ [google.com]

The list of banned content is great!

Hacking and Cracking Sites - Posting is not permitted for the promotion of hacking or cracking. For example, items must not provide instructions or equipment to illegally access or tamper with software, servers, or websites.

Aids to Pass Drug Tests - Posting is not permitted for the promotion of products such as drug cleansing shakes and urine test additives.

Too much!

Re:Check out the program policies page (1)

Anonymous Writer (746272) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041824)

Hacking and Cracking Sites - Posting is not permitted for the promotion of hacking or cracking. For example, items must not provide instructions or equipment to illegally access or tamper with software, servers, or websites.

That's not cool. What about legitimate hacking? The quote mentions examples of illegal methods, but the scope could be broader in practice. There's also mention of mod chips on the list, citing copy protection circumvention as an example, but what about legitimate mod chips? The "Posting is not permitted for the promotion of body parts or human remains" is hilarious, but what's the deal with "Posting is not permitted for the promotion of raw precious metals"?

Re:Check out the program policies page (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041861)

Aids to Pass Drug Tests

This strategy is a zillion times more effective than those high-priced kidney sweepers: Don't take drugs.

(and, of course, it is a zillion times more sucking)

Google Base Slashdotted... (1)

Electrawn (321224) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041636)

For Slashdot, this is a royal flush, no?

Hmm...Porn? (4, Insightful)

CriminalNerd (882826) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041643)

Sexual Content
(Adult) Posting is not permitted for the promotion of child pornography or other non-consensual material.

Does that mean people are allowed to post most of their pr0n? That would be...disturbing...Interesting for others, but not for the soccer moms.

I think Google got Slashdotted (1)

joe_n_bloe (244407) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041647)

Oops!

There was an error with the page you requested.

Please check back later.

All Ur b4S3 R b3L0ng 2 S1r5Hd0t (-1, Troll)

joe_n_bloe (244407) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041657)

!!!!!!!!111!!!!!one

All your base... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041679)

...are belong to Google.

druggle (4, Funny)

grungebox (578982) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041686)

So if we can use Google Base for free, does that mean we can free base? Far out, man.

open the API, many sites suddenly become redundant (4, Insightful)

davejenkins (99111) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041727)

sites like vehix.com, orbitz.com, and finance.yahoo.com are essentially taking data from some goofy mainframe format (Reynolds & Reynolds, edgar, etc) and simply skinning it and making it searchable via the web. If those original database holders (data OEMs if you will) decide to plug in here, many of those sites just took a giant step toward redundancy.

I don't think such sites are kaput, because the retail experience holds something of value in and of itself (all the customer care bits). But Google gets a helluva lot more powerful, certainly.

Re:open the API, many sites suddenly become redund (1)

BitchKapoor (732880) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041812)

I can't vouch for the other sites you mentioned, but Orbitz is considerably more than just skinning some static data feeds, and moreover isn't that mainframe-dependent these days. Check out this article by Paul Graham [paulgraham.com] for more information. The pricing engine they use is by ITA Software [itasoftware.com] , and it's actually quite complicated and compute-intensive.

30 Day Expiration? (3, Insightful)

SledgeHBK (148480) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041734)

"Most types of items (such as products, services, housing, autos, wanted ads, jobs, travel, events, and news) automatically expire after 30 days. "

I'm kinda confused. Is this only referring to the actual commercial items being put up for sale, or is applying to most everything?

I was going to tell my fiancee about this and get her started on creating her own model horse database (she's a collector). I don't think it would be a good way to go if the above is true.

Could somebody clarify this for me and/or show me some sort of good out-of-the-box software that could be used in this way (collection of items, with pictures, description, etc.).

Obligatory (2, Funny)

Pesh Hawksfire (928893) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041761)

I'm in your google base. I'm killing your google mans!

Re:Obligatory (0, Redundant)

Metteyya (790458) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041822)

All your base are belong to Google!

Copyright violations? (4, Insightful)

mikeburke (683778) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041765)

I can imagine this becoming a great source of copyright issues - google you have no way of knowing where your content came from - pictures, reference articles - even recipes. For example it's really not hard to imagine someone posting up all the recipes from their Delia Smith cookbook collection.

Who is going to police all this aggregated, easily searched content? The only rational strategy for google is to wash their hands of it and have some kind of content editors responsible for acting on complaints.

Sure, this issue isn't exactly new to the internet, but by storing it, indexing it, making a tidy profit from it (via adwords) and no doubt painting a nice, publically available API over it, I find it hard to believe it won't be long before various organisations are up in arms.

What? no anynymous id? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041767)

The reason why Craigslist is so popular is the anonymous nature of the poster.

Google Base = GBay (1)

kote-men-do (881870) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041779)

I'm seeing fields for quantities, expiration dates, descriptions, ... With a little more work and GooglePay integration this will be the GoogleBay.

easfdq (5, Interesting)

snark23 (122331) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041792)

Larry: I've been trying to infer structure from web pages all day, and boy are my arms tired!

Sergey: Hey Larry, what if we could trick our users into supplying structure along with their data?

Larry: Why, we would rule the world!

[Larry and Sergey burst into song...]

~

But seriously, this is way cool. Here's where Google Base could go from here:

1. Allow more complex data types (the AJAX interface is beautiful and simple, but really limiting... maybe allow more complex types to be built through an API?) I'm thinking of structures and some kind of instantiation system.

2. Publish a really rich library of types. What they've got right now is a good start, but more common types will prevent people from creating redundant and not-quite-identical types. For instance, if there had been a "Slashdot geek" category, we wouldn't all have had to create our own when we entered ourselves into the 'Base after reading this headline.

3. Allow data to be restricted to groups of users. Google already has concepts of users and groups, so this is a no-brainer... a few customized viewing pages, and it could replace Flickr, Blogs, ... everything. Just by the example details you can tell it's poised to kill craigslist's classifieds.

(about the subject title... my cat wrote it just now when he jumped onto my laptop, and it seemed as good as anything I was about to come up with)

Re:easfdq (3, Interesting)

SnprBoB86 (576143) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041858)

2. Publish a really rich library of types.

Or allow machine learning to generate one :-)

All your base are belong to us (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041793)

Google

base (1)

sewagemaster (466124) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041797)

gentlemen, with all the googling going on, we'll arrive at 3rd base in no time...

a new API for search (2, Informative)

techrunner (897148) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041798)

Think of this as a different API for the search application. Google base often points to data outside of google. The only requirement is that everyone labels their data and gives the labels to google.

Going through cars, there are pull down menus to select the year, price range, etc.. Previously, you could either 1- go to google.com and hope you get lucky or 2- Go to every listing service and do searches of their databases

The main advantage is that this gives access to the deep web or the hidden web. It gives the google user the ability to search databases that were previously invisibile.

Has to be said... really. (-1, Redundant)

agibbs (729458) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041799)

All your Google base are belong to us!

So.. PageRank? (2, Interesting)

mcc (14761) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041819)

The details here seem rather scant. What search algorithm? Is this just like a normal database search? Or is there any way data can be searched using something like PageRank?

Because if this is just a normal database, meh, I could do that myself. But if I could in some way define a group of webpages and then perform pagerank-intelligent searches within that group, that would be a lot more interesting.

Are people allowed to define new "kinds" of information to search for, or only new attributes? And is Google Base available through a Google API like interface? Because I don't see anything about that on the site right now.

Re:So.. PageRank? (1)

snark23 (122331) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041855)

It seems that user-defined types are limited to a type name and a series of attributes ("details"). Attribute types are limited to primitives like "Web URL", "text string", "location".

Hopefully they do expand the type system to allow for richer types (generalized algebraic data types, anyone?)

I don't see anything about an API either, but I think it's a fair bet that Google will supply one at some point. They've been very good about APIs for their other services.

It's broken. (4, Funny)

melikamp (631205) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041825)

I cannot find any porn. I think it is broken.

What about copyright? (5, Insightful)

adnonsense (826530) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041829)

A brief search reveals some recipies reproduced from an external site. There is a link provided, but no indication what copyright the recipie is under; the same for a recipie copied from Wikibooks (a clear GFDL violation).

Hosting Images and API's (5, Interesting)

MBoffin (259181) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041835)

Apparantly you can link directly to a Google Base hosted image. This means basically free image hosting with virtually unlimited bandwidth. I wonder how long it will be until Google clamps down on this, if at all.

Here's an example. [google.com]

Frankly, I'm more interested in when the API's come out for this thing. The kind of apps people will build that take advantage of this will be quite interesting. Hmm... Things might get pretty interesting pretty fast once the API's are out.

Disappointed by story headline (1)

Zan Lynx (87672) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041843)

Dammit. I read the headline and was all exciting about Google launching the Copernicus Moon Base.

So disappointing.

Somebody tell me (2, Interesting)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041882)

I can't figure this out just from the info on the site, but is this the sort of thing that lets you search on attributes (AKA metadata)? If so, it's like an idea I started implementing a few years back, which (due to lack of time) never really materialized.

The idea was that you could do things like: suppose you're looking for a PDA with certain features; say, a keyboard, no more than $ 200, and at least 320x240 screen size. Then you would go to the site, select the item type, and add constraints by selecting attributes from a list, then a relation on that attribute (e.g. equals, or greater than), and then select or enter a value. You would keep adding constraints until all of the ones important to you where there, and then click search.

The idea was to let any interested party add information to the system; "many eyes" would make sure that it was mostly accurate. I wasn't really sure this would work, but Wikipedia later went and kind of proved the viability of it. In the meantime, I had gotten the user interface and database backend to a usable state, but lacked the time to add all sorts of item types, including sensible metadata, and enter some sample information to kick start the system.

Nowadays, I just wait for Google to implement my ideas. :-)

Attributes by popularity (4, Interesting)

XNormal (8617) | more than 8 years ago | (#14041894)

While the semantic web people are arguing forever about ontologies and schemas Google go ahead and implement a practical way of adding meaningful metadata which real people can actually use.

Instead of having strict schemas which will never be quite right you can just add whatever attribute you like and see which attributes are popular for the type of entity you are entering.

So.. the Google Base is.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041895)

So.. the Google Base is.. Goog Al Qaeda?

Semantic web, anyone? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14041901)

In five years, Google will sell you CPU time to run your algorithms on their servers, connected to the largest well-organized database in the worlds, which updates itself in real-time from all over the world with RSS feeds.

You first read it here :)
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