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The Rise of Digg.com

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the you-know-you're-on-top-when-they-wanna-bury-you dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Wired has a story about Digg, a community bookmarking site that creates its own version of the Slashdot effect. It's a provocatively titled piece - 'Digg Just Might Bury Slashdot' - but goes on to consider the obvious similarities between the two and the differences. Digg is more chaotic, immediate and user driven, whereas Slashdot features more in-depth and technical discussions." Well, I hate navel-gazing news but I think the aggregation of blogs is a critical step in the future of on-line content, and Digg is doing good work here. The interesting thing will happen when their population grows a bit more. Scalability is hard... but I imagine the millions of dollars of VC funding will really help.

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429 comments

Naval Gazing? (4, Insightful)

Liselle (684663) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054168)

CmdrTaco, I like the Navy as much as anyone else, but I don't see how looking at sailors has anything to do with Slashdot or Digg. Oh, you meant "navel gazing". Well, some of us like to talk about the site, though, can we get a topic for it? Maybe? The icon could be a battleship. :D

So anyway, we finally have a story where Digg.com rants are not offtopic. Well, I'll fire the opening salvo: I've been to Digg, and their stories are much more current than Slashdot's (seemingly because of the way stories are posted), but the comment system is a steaming pile. There is no threading (seriously hard to follow conversations without threading). And, despite Slashdot's flawed moderation system, scanning article comments at +4 is usually a pleasant experience, and I can't find that kind of functionality on Digg as an anonymous reader.

I come to Slashdot for the comments. Not for the editor abuses, the typos, the political slant, the "last week" news, blah blah etc. I know I am not alone in this. It seems to me that Slashdot and Digg are both filling a different niche at the moment. I'd like to see Digg with a better commenting system and some form of user-moderation of posts: right now it resembles graffiti on the wall, not discussion.

Any Digg cheerleaders out there with some positive things to add about the comment system that I missed in my ignorance?

Re:Naval Gazing? (1)

gr8dude (832945) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054245)

I come to slashdot for the comments.

I second that. The comments are fantabulous, and I really learned a LOT of new things as a slashdotter. I admit that some of the signatures are great too.

But the comments are the best. There's no place like slashdot!

Re:Naval Gazing? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054322)

I learned that the word fantabulous is still used daily by some people.

What a strange world.

Re:Naval Gazing? (0)

Otter (3800) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054282)

Oh, you meant "navel gazing".

In Rob's defense, at least he can spell "dig" correctly. (Probably.)

Re:Naval Gazing? (2, Funny)

RobotRunAmok (595286) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054304)

CmdrTaco, I like the Navy as much as anyone else, but I don't see how looking at sailors has anything to do with Slashdot or Digg. Oh, you meant "navel gazing".

Now even the typos, and the subsequent jokes they engender [slashdot.org] , are dupes!

I sit here slack-jawed and in awe.

Re:Naval Gazing? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054342)

I come to Slashdot for the comments. Not for the editor abuses, the typos, the political slant, the "last week" news, blah blah etc. I know I am not alone in this.

I come to slashdot for the trolls.

Re:Naval Gazing? (4, Insightful)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054437)

Any Digg cheerleaders out there with some positive things to add about the comment system that I missed in my ignorance?

Not a cheerleader, but a user of both sites, so here goes:

I've been to Digg, and their stories are much more current than Slashdot's (seemingly because of the way stories are posted)

Right on both points. They don't have lazy editors to get in the way between a good story and the readers. A truly democratic method. I'm surprised, though, that a troll community hasn't been fostered that gets foul image sites permanantly at the top. Maybe they have a method of preventing that, I don't know that much about it.

but the comment system is a steaming pile. There is no threading (seriously hard to follow conversations without threading). And, despite Slashdot's flawed moderation system, scanning article comments at +4 is usually a pleasant experience, and I can't find that kind of functionality on Digg as an anonymous reader.

Comments aren't digg's focus. The stories are. You'll get some commentary on the story, but that's about it. And I think there's some simplistic beauty in that - the goal there isn't to get an off-topic discussion going, it's to provide a simple mechanism for commenting *on the story.* So threads aren't really needed. This doesn't mean they're better or worse than /., just different.


I come to Slashdot for the comments. Not for the editor abuses, the typos, the political slant, the "last week" news, blah blah etc. I know I am not alone in this. It seems to me that Slashdot and Digg are both filling a different niche at the moment.

Precisely.

I'd like to see Digg with a better commenting system and some form of user-moderation of posts: right now it resembles graffiti on the wall, not discussion.

But then it would be slashdot - what would be the point?

Re:Naval Gazing? (2, Insightful)

Kelson (129150) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054512)

Comments aren't digg's focus. The stories are. You'll get some commentary on the story, but that's about it. And I think there's some simplistic beauty in that - the goal there isn't to get an off-topic discussion going, it's to provide a simple mechanism for commenting *on the story.* So threads aren't really needed. This doesn't mean they're better or worse than /., just different.

I know a lot of people here hate the word, but that makes Digg sound an awful lot like a blog...

Re:Naval Gazing? (4, Funny)

Kelson (129150) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054467)

Who on /. hasn't spent hours staring at the C, contemplating its mysteries and trying to fathom its depths?

Re:Naval Gazing? (5, Interesting)

Flaming Babies (904475) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054468)

I've been to Digg, and their stories are much more current than Slashdot's (seemingly because of the way stories are posted)
I, myself, have not been to Digg...
Just curious if you saw the http://diggvsdot.com/ [diggvsdot.com] link in the story?
I've heard many times here that Digg comes out with stories faster...this seems to disagree.
Is this bad data?

/. isn't that slow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054506)

In fact, I could argue that /. is faster as this website [diggvsdot.com] attests. but note that Digg did bit /. to this particular story.

Re:Naval Gazing? (1)

Khalid (31037) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054550)

http://linuxfr.org/ [linuxfr.org] is such a beast. Posted stories are voted for by readers, and it has a Slashdot like moderation system. I don't really think that the result is that much better than Slashdot, quite the contrary in my opinion, maybe because it has less readership than Slashdot, so some stories take way too long to make it to the main page, although this has improved recently.

Note that it's in french.

Re:Naval Gazing? (1)

ToxikFetus (925966) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054580)

In a similar vein, one year "The Capital", Annapolis, MD's daily newspaper, ran a front page story on the "Navel Academy Graduation." Mind you, the US Naval Academy is located in Annapolis, and the artical pretty much summed up the competence of said newspaper.

My comparison (5, Interesting)

DeadSea (69598) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054173)

I have been reading slashdot for years and digg for months. I don't ever see one replacing the other. Some people will like one, some will like the other, but many will like both. Here is my comparison:

Editorial:
Slashdot: Targeted by very technical editors, I generally want to hear about 40% of the stories.
Digg: Targeted by users, I generally want to hear about 5% of the stories.

Comments:
Slashdot: Best comment system I've seen with a large number of commenters (threshold 4 for me)
Digg: Comments are worthless.

Timeliness:
Slashdot: Stories are often days old (and duplicates abound).
Digg: Generally havn't seen it before.

RSS:
Slashdot: As a subscriber, I get a full customized rss feed with some unexpected plums (see my latest journal entry)
Digg: The RSS feed doesn't contain the link to the story, forcing you to go to their useless comments page.

Re:My comparison (5, Funny)

P3NIS_CLEAVER (860022) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054221)

Slashdot: Stories are often days old (and duplicates abound).

They are not duplicates. They are a Beowulf Cluster of Stories.

Re:My comparison (1, Interesting)

rovingeyes (575063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054237)

Editorial: Slashdot: Targeted by very technical editors, I generally want to hear about 40% of the stories. Digg: Targeted by users, I generally want to hear about 5% of the stories.

I think you are missing an important distinction. Stories in Digg do not get rejected. If it is of great interest to lot of people, it makes to the front page. In /. if the editor doesn't want to hear about it, it adios...Pick your coolaid.

Re:My comparison (1)

TooMuchEspressoGuy (763203) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054350)

"I think you are missing an important distinction. Stories in Digg do not get rejected. If it is of great interest to lot of people, it makes to the front page."

Just wait until it gets even more popular, and half the stories are Goatse redirects.

Rejection does involve personal opinion, yes, but it's also an excellent way of filtering the wheat from the chaff, so to speak. And it shows. Just looking at Digg's front page, it looks like a chaotic mish-mash of stories compared to Slashdot's.

Re:My comparison (1)

Liselle (684663) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054352)

Maybe I read it wrong, but it sounds like the grandparent poster was talking about the overall interest-factor of the stories. On Slashdot, he finds two out of every five stories interesting to him, on Digg he finds one out of every twenty interesting to him.

So I assume that you are suggesting that since the stories the editors pick can be rejected, one of the rejected stories might be of interest to the GP and he'd miss it? Well, wouldn't the same thing happen on Digg if not enoguh people thought it was interesting in the first place? Seems to me he's noticed a great difference in the signal/noise ratio in respect to interesting visible stories, and it doesn't have much if anything to do with the way that the stories are chosen, but YMMV I suppose.

Re:My comparison (1)

rovingeyes (575063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054551)

First of all digg and slashdot do not have the same niche. Idea is similar - have a story and have people comment on it and argue. But slashdot tends to be more technical in nature - even YRO to the most part. Digg on the other hand does not restrict you to a particular set of categories. You can even post a goatse link if you want to. But will it get to the front page, most probably not unless we have too many wackos in this fading republic. But on the other hand I see it this way - it is good to know about something else other than just technology; although I lose interest very quickly. Even though the stories can be any topic, if you notice the front page stories on digg, they are more or less technical. Now I don't know if that is gonna stay that way forever.

Re:My comparison (1)

Exocrist (770370) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054384)

Digg stories dont necessarily get rejected, but only the popular ones make it to the front page. The bad stories kinda reject themselves by not getting enough votes to get to the front page.

Re:My comparison (3, Insightful)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054499)

That's both the strength and the major weekness of Digg. It shows you what the majority wants to see. For now that means it's only slightly obnoxious. As it becomes popular with more mainstream "tech" guys it will become less and less useful for people with niche interests. We already have media that caters to the mainstream, and they know exactly how to draw readers. Just because it's user driven doesn't mean the front page won't look more and more like a cross between a variety of trade rags, just a few weeks early.

I don't know about you, but I could care less about what the majority of people want to read. I want to read what *I* want to read, and the best way to do that is to find a site that is moderated in a way that matches your interests.

Hopefully the people who like Digg better will go there instead, and stop bitching about how their stories got rejected in off topic slashdot comments.

Dupes (4, Funny)

Frankie70 (803801) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054346)


Slashdot: Targeted by very technical editors, I generally want to hear about 40% of the stories.


I want to hear about 20% of the stories, twice each.

vanilla ice says... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054177)

Dig is teh bomb. Slashdot is for sucka MCs like MC Hammer. And Eminem. Phat ass biyatchez!

Digg 4eva.

Don't hate the playa, hate the rhymes!

PS: fpf pfpfpfpfpfpffpfp

Already read this? (4, Funny)

Kelson (129150) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054179)

Every other story I've read on /. over the past few weeks has had at least one comment saying, "Hey, get your act together, this was on Digg 3 days ago!"

I wonder how long it'll take for someone to post one here?

Re:Already read this? (1)

rovingeyes (575063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054402)

Yup I read it on digg 3 days ago.

Re:Already read this? (1)

HardCase (14757) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054427)

Every other story I've read on /. over the past few weeks has had at least one comment saying, "Hey, get your act together, this was on Digg 3 days ago!"

I wonder how long it'll take for someone to post one here?


Apparently, about 5 minutes:

Late again
(Score:4, Funny)
by jcorno (889560) Alter Relationship on 11:00 AM November 17th, 2005 (#14054249)
Digg.com had this article posted six hours ago.
--
got milk? then you're a human and must be killed

Re:Already read this? (1)

penguinoid (724646) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054432)

Hey, get your act together, this was on Digg 3 days ago!

Re:Already read this? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054457)

I think your comment was on Digg 3 days ago, but I'll be damned if anyone could find it.

Digg? (4, Funny)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054183)

Dugg

Re:Digg? (1)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054266)

Offtopic my ass! Whoever modded this has obviously never seen the comment section of digg.com (hint: this is what about half the comments consist of over there).

A Critical Difference (3, Insightful)

Dotnaught (223657) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054191)

A Slashdot post will get you traffic, if you have a site linked to your user id. That's not the case with Digg. Ergo, Slashdot wins. It gives you more for participating. For Web site owners, traffic has real value.

Re:A Critical Difference (1)

saskboy (600063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054312)

I agree, I often get Slashdotters visiting my webpages, which is pretty neat I think and some even look around so they must like what they see?

I got my Digg account last week, so at least I'll have a low number user ID on one major online community ;-)

Re:A Critical Difference (5, Interesting)

mcho (878145) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054392)

I disagree with the comment that traffic has real value.

As a web site owner, traffic from /. doesn't necessarily translate into new customers, increase ad revenue, etc. And, ironically, this has been discussed on digg.com.

(Of course this comment won't see the light of day because if you don't post early, you're comments aren't moderated any higher to 'Nothing to See Here, Move On'.)

nothing to see here (3, Funny)

ChrisCampbell47 (181542) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054193)

Please go away. You are finding Digg very very boring, you want to stay with Slashdot. Nothing to see at all. Mmmmkay?

Re:nothing to see here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054393)

Screw that. If digg can absorb more idiot commenters from this place, I'll give them money. It looks like they've found a way to distill the moron-PHP-webforum mentality into almost pure form.

rewriting Oscar Wilde (1)

rovingeyes (575063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054198)

The quote below the page is from oscar wilde

"There are two ways of disliking poetry; one way is to dislike it, the other is to read Pope." -- Oscar Wilde

Lets modify it...

"There are two ways of disliking slashdot; one way is to dislike it, the other is to read digg. -- rovingeyes

Oscar Wilde sue me for copyright infringment.

Digg Mentioned on Slashdot... (5, Funny)

senocular (519317) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054208)

Slashdot x Digg = The DigDot Effect
...
*Internet explodes*

Re:Digg Mentioned on Slashdot... (1)

schon (31600) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054554)

I'm wondering if that might have been one of Taco's thoughts when he was debating posting this with his distaste for "naval" gazing..

"Damn upstarts - let's see how they handle a good /.'ing." :o)

Technical Dissusions here??!?!?! (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054224)

Here are the technical discussions here:
- What would a beowolf cluster of these do?
- What would mother russia do?
- What would you guys recommend for a programmer who has never programmed?
- What does a girl smell like?

Left Out (1)

mrisaacs (59875) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054363)

In South Korea only old people Digg....

Naval gazing (3, Funny)

mblase (200735) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054226)

Well, I hate naval gazing news

Yeah, staring at Naval vessels [navsource.org] gets kind of boring unless you're really into that kind of thing.

Gazing at navels [weeklybikini.com] , on the other hand, I could do for hours....

Re:Naval gazing (1)

WhiteLudaFan (634444) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054441)

I would bet a large sum of money that you're not just looking at their navels. :)

Digg (revisited) (4, Insightful)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054238)

I've been checking out digg for the past few weeks. The only real advantage I see to it over slashdot is that you can see all the submitted articles and vote them up to the front page. The downside of that is that there's a whole lotta crap to filter through. And there's nobody to blame for the dupes. And the comment system sucks. And the dupes. Oh, and many of the posters seem to be 15 (at least those tend to get modded down on /.).

Re:Digg (revisited) (4, Insightful)

Lewisham (239493) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054582)

You're right about the crap problem, and it will only get worse. As Digg continues to expand, so the number of users submitting stories is increasing. If we assume there's only so much interesting news a day, the crap ratio is going to increase as well. This seems to be happening already.

Digg will implode if the expansion continues, because no-one will be bothered to digg for anything that isn't on the front page. So in the end, those that have the time/inclination to wade through the stories will end up becoming pseudo-editors (you can promote a story on just 50 diggs if you submit at the right time), and then it'll either get dugg more by people who enjoyed it and can't be bothered to digg for stories, or it'll be reported out. Front page stories will only end up being the ones that the pseudo-editors like.

Losing the Digg we're-all-equal-community ethos seems inevitable. They should give up, and start weighting user votes. For example: users who post stories that are often promoted; those who digg stories that are often promoted; or those that comment well should have their submitted stories in one pool. Stories below this privledged status go into another one. The stories for all will still go to the front page, but the more esoteric stuff that a sizable majority enjoy reading about (which really made Digg; getting stories interesting to you that editors didn't think were worthy) will end up in the privaledged pool.

Like Taco said, scalability is going to be a big problem if you aren't ruling from the top-down.

So Who's Goin' Down First? (5, Funny)

dcw3 (649211) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054241)

Ok, so /. links a story to them, and they link one back. The question is, who's servers are gonna melt down first?

Late again (5, Funny)

jcorno (889560) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054249)

Digg.com had this article posted six hours ago.

Re:Late again (1)

ezeecheez (931550) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054418)

This joke was on there 5 hours and 59 minutes ago.

Re:Late again (5, Insightful)

LoganEkz (552402) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054514)

Digg.com had this article posted six hours ago.
I'll bite at this.

When did the article make it the main page? It seems that when people refer to when an article was posted, they are talking about when the article was submitted to digg.com, not when it appeared on the digg front page. Even sites such as digg vs dot [diggvsdot.com] use the digg article submission time and compare this with when the article appeared on Slashdot.

This is comparing apples vs oranges.

What I would like to see is a comparison of when the digg articles appear on the digg front page vs when they appear on the Slashdot front page.

Design (1)

jeremedia (564928) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054258)

For me, Digg's primary advantage more modern, more readable page design. However, as other have mentioned many time, Digg's story comments are never, ever interesting or informative,

Re:Design (3, Funny)

jlp2097 (223651) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054456)

Digg's story comments are never, ever interesting or informative.
But that implies.... Ah, never mind :-)

Saw this last week on digg (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054264)

Actually I have only been to digg a few times. And I guess I don't get it.
Perhaps it is, as others have pointed out, the unstructured comment system.
For me /. is all about the comments, no matter the moderation level.

I see no reason for any major changes at Slashdot.org. If you don't like it go elsewhere.

The comparison is interesting (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054270)

I started looking at digg last week when I saw it mentioned in a slashdot comment. The mix of articles is usually interesting, but the comments are abysmal. Seriously, something about digg.com encourages comments which are almost indistinguishable from crapflooding. Who the fuck cares if you "dugg" the article? And when people aren't posting retarded "dugg/no dugg" comments, they are spewing stupidity that makes slashdot look like a MENSA meeting.

My recommendation: Put digg.com in your RSS feed, and never read the comments. Anything else is asking for a lower view of humanity.

/. killer (1)

LittleGuernica (736577) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054273)

So Digg is the latest Slashdot killer from Sony?

Less in depth than /.?!?! (1)

vondo (303621) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054280)

I think I'll just skip it.

Its own version of the slashdot effect? (1)

jlp2097 (223651) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054284)

Let's [digg.com] show [digg.com] them [digg.com] who's [digg.com] the [digg.com] boss! [slashdot.org] :-)

Re:Its own version of the slashdot effect? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054519)

It's official... diggdown...

just waiting (1)

Exstatica (769958) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054286)

I'm just waiting for when slashdot drops digg to it's knees with the slashdot effect, Then we'll show it who's boss.

Digg is... (1)

John Napkintosh (140126) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054287)

A Google, Apple, Firefox and Kevin Rose wankfest. Nothing against any of those individually, but put them all together with a fanatical userbase and it can be pretty painful sometimes.

Heaven help you if you try to become engaged in commenting.

Let's Look at the Comments... (5, Informative)

TooMuchEspressoGuy (763203) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054295)

On the Slashdot front page, at the time of this posting, the most recent five articles have 17, 124, 101, 178, and 232 comments.

On the Digg front page, the most recent five have 1, 6, 5, 15, and 13 comments.

Yep, Slashdot is REALLY in danger.

I really hate this... (5, Insightful)

ColdCoffee (664886) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054296)

Why can't both co-exist peacefully without constant 'Slash-Digging' at each other? I like both sites. I check them both quite frequently throughout the day? Can't we all just play nice? There's enough room for both Slashdot AND Digg!!

In other news... (2, Funny)

TheSpoom (715771) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054297)

Steve Ballmer has recently sent a cease and desist letter to the operators of Digg.com, and has threatened legal action for violating his patented business methods.

In depth and technical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054298)

I have always loved the indepth and technical goatse post of the past. Slashdotters keep up the good work!!

Digg.com diggnation! (1, Interesting)

bearigus77 (931879) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054302)

Digg.com also has this amazing video podcast they offer. It is hilarious and well run. The two guys that are on it (alex albrecht and kevin rose) are really funny. Plus in addition to reading us the weekly news, they sample some beers while they are at it :)

Can't resist (1)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054320)

"Digg is quite different from (older) sites," said founder Kevin Rose. "Slashdot is put together by an editorial board. Digg uses the collective wisdom of the masses and, consequently, news breaks faster."

Oh yes, and we all know about the collective wisdom of the masses! We see it every day in an ineffectual, partisan, out-of-touch Congress and a squirrely, short-sighted, and bumbling President. [sigh]

If Wired wants to annoint Digg as the new Slashdot, fine. Let the "diggies" have their fun in chaos-land. I'm sure the articles are newer, I'm sure more people are reading it every day, and of course their teeth are whiter and they have better lives. I'll stick with what I know. Here, there seems to be a better brand of intellectual discourse. I'm not a geek just to be a geek and I appreciate how Slashdot makes an effort to be informative without the need to pander to everyone.

Re:Can't resist (0, Flamebait)

east coast (590680) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054442)

a squirrely, short-sighted, and bumbling President.

No sir, you're wrong. Bill Clinton left office a few years ago.

Re:Can't resist (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054555)

You're a dinosaur.

Hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054332)

Well I've never used Digg, but if their average comment quality is lower than Slashdot's, that's not really saying much. Most of the comments on Slashdot are pretty bad, and unfortunately the moderation system does little to harvest quality.

Re:Hmm (1)

ZachPruckowski (918562) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054481)

You think so? I think the only major flaw in the comment system is that it usually misses when it has modded something Informative/Interesting/Insightful that turns out to be false. I personally think the downmodding is more important than the upmodding. I mean, as long as they keep goatse and troll monologues out for the average user, they're doing a good job. but then again, I browse at -1.

Oy, this fight already has its own website (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054347)

Digg vs Dot, guess who's winning? Anyway I'll know that Digg has overtaken /. Wwhen it has more troll posts.

Slashdot vs Digg (1)

pureseth (917220) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054357)

I like slashdot more basically because, like a previous comment said, the comments and the userbase. People get more in depth and debate the topics more vividly. Just better information overall..

Re:Slashdot vs Digg (1)

John Napkintosh (140126) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054379)

lol omg i no wat u mean. slashdot rules!!1

\. em (1)

blindbat (189141) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054362)

Let's slashdot digg.

WTF? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054372)

Slashdot features more in-depth and technical discussions

Ha! that's a laugh. Every discussion on slashdot is [Linux/MS/Apple/Google][rocks/sucks]because[bill gates is evil/i'm a fanboy/linus sucks/linus rocks/they're teh gehy].

Most of the truely technically driven posts rarely see above a 3, and then only if the orginal poster had a karma bonus. Most people waste their mod points on; redundent(WTF?), supporting whomever it is they support blindly or marking anything with the slightest chance of being offensive as "troll" or "flamebait".

Slashdot is teh gehy.

OLD news (1)

0110011001110101 (881374) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054377)

PFFFTTTT!! This story was on Digg this morning...

I know this because I submitted it to /. and was immediately rejected...

Score one more for Digg, as at least there the user community would have accepted or rejected my story...

Re:OLD news (1)

ebrandsberg (75344) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054434)

You do realize that slashdot probably has a nice queue of stories, they don't post them as soon as they get accepted, and they probably get the same stories posted all the time. They space the release of stories so as to give each time for comments, as well as to drive continuous traffic to the website for advertising. As such, you probably wern't rejected exactly, but flagged as a dupe pending being posted. I always find it irritating when people complain about their story being rejected only to show up a few days later, but in reality, it was probably sitting in the queue until there was nothing else better to post per the editors.

Re:OLD news (1)

0110011001110101 (881374) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054589)

You do realize that nowhere in my post did I "complain" that it was rejected.. quite the opposite I assumed, as you did, that the /. crowd was all over this story the moment it came out and it had probably been submitted 100 times before me. I submitted it myself as a way to lodge my "vote" that the original submitter should be approved, as it was a topic of interest among the /. community.

I know this because I submitted it to /. and was immediately rejected...

I had 2 motives when I typed that line, neither of which was to complain, or grouse about my rejection.

1. To backup my statement of the story being available earlier this morning.
2. To show that I favor a system in which the story is immediately presented to the site readers, and they then decide if the story should be published. More than likely, in the Digg environment, my story would never have been submitted in the first place, as I would have already read it in the queue, and added my digg to promote it up.

I always find it irritating when people complain about other peoples postings, just to hear themselves speak. Give yourself a cookie, pat on the head, and continue indulging [slashdot.org] your [slashdot.org] inflated [slashdot.org] self [slashdot.org] importance [slashdot.org] .

Moderation.. (1)

phase_9 (909592) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054390)

-5, 100% Overrated

Slashdot has twice as many stories as Digg (1)

Cro Magnon (467622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054391)

Of course, half those stories are dupes.

Not just a subject- some nouns & verbs too. (1)

psbrogna (611644) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054397)

Did slashdot just un-slashdot itself? I can feel the ground trembling as the herd of technonews junkies sweep majestically over to the new site.

paradox a'comin' (1)

urdine (775754) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054401)

So finally Slashdot has an article about Digg. Will Digg have an article linking to this article? How far can this go?!

Re:paradox a'comin' (1)

John Napkintosh (140126) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054414)

They already do. Three of them.

$2.8 million??? (3, Insightful)

DogDude (805747) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054410)

I thought that whole dot-com bubble was over. $2.8 million just because it's a high traffic site? You gotta be kidding me... I run a real business with real assets and real profit, but these stupid investors don't care. I honestly don't think that the dot-com bubble is over yet if sites like this can get $2.8 million for simply existing. There's nothing really unique about the site to warrant that kind of capital investment.

Re:$2.8 million??? (2, Insightful)

psbrogna (611644) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054471)

Cut 'em some slack- $2.8M's isn't exactly a King's Ransom or anything. Isn't that what VC's all about? Throwing some money at what everybody else thinks is a stupid idea? It wouldn't be much of a "venture" if it was obviously going to exceed.

I bet you didn't use the magic words: (3, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054542)

"Web 2.0" and "AJAX"

Instant VC hard-on

Re:$2.8 million??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14054558)

You call that puppy shop a real business? Just be glad youre not on the streets with that business model.

Digg and /. (3, Insightful)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054464)

I have both open in a firefox tab as both offer something to me that I find useful. With digg, you get stories that are generally "fresher", by days or in some cases even hours--which is like forever in "web speed". However, there stories are also all over the board and many are jsut links to other peoples' blogs--(e.g. "I hate the cold heat soldering iron blog story"--big deal) and I only "digg" about 10% of them. Comments are for all practical purposes useless compared to /. [when viewed at the appropriate threshold]. /. if more like a tortise if digg is the hare. Stories on /. have already been on digg 1,2,3 or more times already, but in taking it's time..it's damn sweet time, in getting stories out, I find more of the stories to be more the "stuff that matters" than I find on digg. /. has its trolls and flame tossing ACs, but in general you can find good discussions here as long as you don't mentions religion, politics (ignore the sig please), GW, or MS. Digg's comments seem more like where ACs are born or where the /. trolls go to play once no one bites on them here.

If you haven't seen digg.com, check it out. There will be some interesting stuff there, but it's no replacement for /. IMHO

wow (5, Funny)

Clover_Kicker (20761) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054496)

> Digg is more chaotic, immediate and user driven, whereas
> Slashdot features more in-depth and technical discussions.

*shudders*

Digg can't really be that bad?

Slashdot Digging Digg Digging Slashdot (1)

Azathoth!EDC (222280) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054500)


This article is so very meta!

Delicious (1)

mobilesteve (899951) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054504)

There are alot of things I hate about slashdot that I don't seem to think will ever change and might even lead to its downfall, but I tried to get into digg and to me, it is basically del.icio.us with comments. If you look at the front page right now, one of the stories is "Manipulating XML at the command line with xmlstarlet" which is such a nice article that the few people who are intrested it that would find it through other means. On top of that, the discussion that is going to surround the article will be rather boring

I think a system where a bunch of people submit articles, they get voted on and the highest ones go through an editor who then cleans them up and whatnot would kill both slashdot and digg.

Different niches (1)

Chr0nik (928538) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054505)

Nothing that Digg does will change the way /. operates, regardless of their level of success, mostly because they are a different type of geek news site. Although they got their original inspiration from here, they wen't a direction that I doubt anyone here really wants to go. If the stories here were a bit more community driven however, I do think we'd see a little less "that was on digg days ago" type of stuff. On a side note, people here probably dislike being moderated into oblivion for little or no reason given, and no meaningful recourse, that may drive some /.ers to digg IMHO.

Please tell me what to think! (1)

uberjoe (726765) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054511)

I can't read digg, the comments aren't moderated. How will I know what to think about a comment without someone telling me if I should laugh, skip it, be informed, or insighted by it?

Not really competing (1)

c4ffeine (705293) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054523)

To be fair, Digg and Slashdot aren't really competing with each other; they have different attractions. Sure, digg has great news (hell, I read it regularly), but let's face it: Slashdot has crap news. It's late, articles are misleading, there's dupes, etc. That's not why I'm going here. I go here for the comments. Sure, there's trolls, but the mod system works pretty well, and it attracts a lot of qualified people with a tendency to know what they're talking about. No other site offers anything close. Digg doesn't even have a moderation system...

Slashdot has nothing to fear- no one can match its comments. To be fair, though, Digg will probably keep growing- it's a great news site.

Digg comments javascript slowed me down (1)

sonofagunn (659927) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054528)

Their comments page made my computer nearly unusable until I was finally able to navigate away from the page. I assume it was some nasty Javascript.

But when will we aggregate the aggrigator of ag... (1)

Em Ellel (523581) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054530)

...but I think the aggregation of blogs is a critical step in the future of on-line content...

Ok, maybe I am missing something here, but arent blogs (at least of the Slashdot type) are already aggrigation of other "news" sources? Whats next? Aggrigation of aggrigators of aggrigators? At some point SOMEONE has to create content, no?

-Em

Why slashdot is popular (1)

external400kdiskette (930221) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054533)

Because it was the original and it has the community, people don't go here for the outdated site technology/design and the questionable editorial quality, they come here because of the huge base of users who will rant on about anything and everything. So it's hard to say without being tainted but Digg may be technically better but it'll come down to who has the best community and how many people are reached by that. Slashdot has the benefit of a simple front page with just stories posted and tons of people replying, not to much clutter and almost a decade of user buildup.

So it's a race around the world you want! (1)

TheOtherAgentM (700696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054538)

First one to make it around the world, crushing as many web servers in its path along the way, wins. Go! *Maniacal laughter*

I think I will stick to Slashdot (1)

Kylere (846597) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054547)

Digg appears to be aimed at the Xanga/Livejournal/Myspace/Yahoo/AOL types and I prefer signal to noise with my bandwidth. I realize that Slashdot could become irrelevant with the custom news sources and ease of their configuration but I am not willing to let a net gaggle like Digg decide my news for me yet.

"Slashdot features more in-depth and technical dis (1)

ThomS (866280) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054576)

"Slashdot features more in-depth and technical discussions." You must be new here!

Bury Slashdot (1)

jasongetsdown (890117) | more than 8 years ago | (#14054579)

the only thing Digg will bury Slashdot with are OMG's and LOL's.

perhaps the depth of the comment pool will increase with time. It they introduced threaded comments it could be a serious competitor.

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