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Mozilla Firefox 1.5 RC3 Released

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the getting-close-now dept.

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Jasper Bryant-Greene writes "It doesn't look like the official website has updated yet, but Firefox 1.5 RC3 has been just been released. MozillaZine has the scoop."

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Fantastic (1, Interesting)

b1gn4tb00bs (910640) | more than 8 years ago | (#14061980)

Firefox is the best browser, i cant wait for the full release of 1.5

Well (3, Funny)

dep01 (730107) | more than 8 years ago | (#14061984)

I hope IE is updating their notes on what to incorporate in to IE7 *rolls eyes*

Re:Well (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14061999)

Can I publicly state the rolling of my eyes at something I can only suspect that you're doing?

Been raping babies again? *rolls eyes*

Re:Well (-1, Offtopic)

dep01 (730107) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062026)

*rolls eyes*

Re:Well (-1, Offtopic)

SComps (455760) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062085)

*rolls eyes*

Why is it every time I see something like this, I have visions of some kid sitting around playing marbles with his own eyeballs.

or somebody doing that and following it immediately with "Come on, papa needs a new pair of shoes!"

First reply... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14061989)

...and in RC3 too :-)

Yea but... (3, Interesting)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 8 years ago | (#14061993)

Any news about when will the Mozilla Foundation release the final version? Hopefully, it will be around the first two weeks of December 2005.

Re:Yea but... (4, Funny)

dep01 (730107) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062004)

Just in time for the christmas rush :)

Re:Yea but... (4, Informative)

mlefevre (67954) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062133)

They haven't officially announced a date, but they are expecting [mozillazine.org] to release 1.5 final by the end of this month. But of course it depends on feedback from testing RC3, sorting out the publicity stuff, localisations, etc etc.

Re:Yea but... (4, Insightful)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062152)

Actually, the main reason why I am expecting within the first two weeks in December for final release is that this coming week is Thanksgiving holiday week in the USA, and a lot of testers might be out on vacation. I hope the Mozilla Foundation folks account for this and aim for a early December release.

Re:Yea but... (1)

mlefevre (67954) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062305)

Given that the Mozilla folks (the release is managed by the Corporation rather than the Foundation now) are based in the USA, and so will probably be on holiday themselves, I would hope that they've factored that in.

Given their history of optimistic scheduling, and the propensity for last minute problems to pop up when releasing any software, there's certainly a fair chance that the release will be early December rather than late November. Anyway, it'll happen when it happens... anyone in a hurry can use the RC.

Re:Yea but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062138)

That would be in the next week, or perhaps the week before Christmas then, right?

Or did you actually mean *during* the first two weeks of December?

Re:Yea but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062359)

Yeah, they really wanna get it ready for the christmas shopping.

Re:Yea but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062420)

They'll keep on releasing release candidates until their stats are warped enough that they can claim another pointless "mile-stone".

And for those among you who keep on proclaiming that updates or betas don't count against the stats you can take a look at http://ff.asbjorn.it/hourly.php [asbjorn.it] . The surges on Nov 2nd/3rd, 10th and the 18th today conveniently coincide with the release of RC1, RC2 and RC3 respectively.

If you bother to keep track you'll notice huge spikes on every release version as well.

This Is Was On Digg.com Yesterday (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14061994)

as are most of slashdot's stories nowadays.

Why pay to see future stories, when you can just goto digg.com to see them first for free?

Slashdot jumped the shark when it introduced politics, the end is near now that there is an alternative.

Re:This Is Was On Digg.com Yesterday (5, Insightful)

Bullfish (858648) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062095)

So, this happens on sites all over the net. News is disseminated instantly over a large number of sites instantaneously. What makes slashdot good are the users who make good comments. You want a better site, quit whining and do that. The commentary is why I come here and digg's is not that good. Tech news I can get almost anywhere.

As for politics, more and more it is impacting the nerds of world due to nervous politicians and evil content companies pressuring them. We would be remiss to ignore it.

This thread is for FF RC3. I got mine automatically yesterday with no hitches. Considering how the last time I got an upgrade message it flopped about four times, this was an improvement.

Re:This Is Was On Digg.com Yesterday (0, Flamebait)

tgd (2822) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062322)

You come here for the commentary?

Slashdot's got all the depth of a bunch of twelve year olds standing around trying to act smarter than the other by using big words they hope the others don't know.

Slashdot is where you go for comedy and narrow minded technical uneducated opinions, not quality commentary.

And to keep on topic, FF RC3 updated without a hitch on my Mac at home this morning, but I've had no luck updating my Windows install at work. It bombs out saying a file is in use.

Sucks.

Re:This Is Was On Digg.com Yesterday (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062623)

What makes slashdot good are the users who make good comments.

For a very strange definition of "good", I'm sure.

Re:This Is Was On Digg.com Yesterday (0, Offtopic)

Antifuse (651387) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062261)

Umm... I don't pay anything for Slashdot, I dunno about you.

Update now popup is too forceful (5, Insightful)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 8 years ago | (#14061995)

I was in the middle of typing a posting and this thing popped up taking away focus.
Didn't have full time to check, but hitting return would/could have started the update process off without informed consent.

I realise they want to get it updated, but I think the new regime is just a bit too forceful - it should be on application startup and not checking whilst I'm browsing.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (2, Insightful)

kalirion (728907) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062025)

Some people never shut down Firefox, though I couldn't do that since it's memory usage seems to constantly increase during use.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062083)

I was in the middle of typing a posting and this thing popped up taking away focus.

Actually this is very common behaviour in most Windows (and to a certain extent OSX) apps. I don't know how many times I've been typing away in App A, when App B decides it needs to throw up some stupid dialog right when I'm pressing the key, leading to me wondering WTF I just said ok to. This is a general design flaw in many/most windowing systems today as they assume that the user tends not to multitask much, which may be true for many/most, but certainly not true for me.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (4, Informative)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062229)

The worst one is when you're downloading some stuff with IE. Hopefully this happens only once per windows install (when you download Firefox).

IE is downloading its stuff in windows temp folder. If you are unlucky and decided to save the file in another drive, at the end of the download it will move the file to wherever you wanted it. The move dialog then pops up and the selected button is... Cancel !!!

So if you happen to press Space or Enter at that time, you are in fact cancelling your download.

Just plain insane.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (2, Informative)

nmg196 (184961) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062363)

Actually, the dialog doesn't pop up. It's there the entire time and always has the cancel button. So the chances of that happening are pretty much zero unless you alt-tab to it and press enter - which is hard to do accidentally. The text in the download window changes to tell you it's moving the file, but it's the same dialog and it doesn't pop up or focus itself. Just tried it in IE 6 to make sure.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (1)

Pieroxy (222434) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062509)

We are not talking about the same popup. When the download popup is done, there is another one popping up, which moves the file. You can see it only if the file is quite big and your destination is on another drive than windows. If you download on your C:, of course, I don't know if the dialog is displayed at all.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (2, Funny)

iwan-nl (832236) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062370)

The worst one is when you're downloading some stuff with IE.

That's not the worst one! This is far worse [bash.org] (NSFW).

tell me about it (2, Interesting)

Ender Ryan (79406) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062413)

This is one of my "favorite" annoyances with windowing systems in general these days. I think there's actually tools to prevent apps from stealing each other's focus* - I dunno, I haven't really used Windows for other than gaming in a long while, so I don't bother dicking around with it much - on 'doze and Mac. But, like FF, many apps automatically shift their own focus at inopportune times.

That drives me even more insane than usual. There is absolutely nothing like cancelling a long download or initiating a time-consuming update, or hell, REBOOTING THE FUCKING SYSTEM, because of that.

* Actually, I think TweakUI might do just that. I may even have it installed with that option set on my Windows box. It's just a bit too long in the tooth to play the latest games, so I haven't used it lately.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (1)

DJStealth (103231) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062426)

This is a problem, especially if you're typing a password or something.

I found this behaviour elsewhere within Firefox (and IE too, I think).

If you're loading a page, and it's taking a while; then you start typing in the addressbar. Once the page loads, if it has a text input box, what you're typing automatically continues in the text input box of the page.

I was thinking, before changing focus, a simple thing to do would be as follows: If more than 2 keys were pressed in the last second, do not switch focus. Otherwise, (if less than 2 keys in last second) then switch focus.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (2, Informative)

LnxAddct (679316) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062521)

Gnome stops windows from stealing focus, when they want focus they just start glowing very lightly in the window bar. I would think OS X has a similar feature.
Regards,
Steve

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (2, Informative)

afd8856 (700296) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062538)

Gnome is really nice in this matter. Not even IM windows (I'm using skype) can't steal the focus. They just blink in the taskbar. Open source can do things really nice sometimes, and Ubuntu and its components is one of those examples.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (1)

speculatrix (678524) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062608)

there's an option in "windows control panel->mouse" to automatically move the mouse pointer to the default button on a dialog box. (Or at least it was there in win2kpro)

I turned it on once because it seemed like it would make, but when I found myself accidentally doing stuff, I turned it off, and stayed clear of it since!

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (4, Informative)

Southpaw018 (793465) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062100)

I believe this was addressed as part of the RC2 to RC3 update in the "Background tab steals foreground focus" bug.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (2, Interesting)

Mercano (826132) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062325)

I think this may be from the 1.6 nightly builds, but I've noticed when the update dialog pops up on its own (as opposed to when you make it come up via Help-->Check For Updates), the OK has a ~3 second countdown before it becomes enabled, the same way unsigned extentions work. Should prevent acidental action in the future, though the anoyence factor is still there.

Re:Update now popup is too forceful (1)

Val314 (219766) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062504)

no, this is the only way. (people *never* update their Systems unless forced to to so)

btw: the default setting is install without asking me, so most users shouldnt even see this message

Oh, thats what that dialog was for. (0)

n00tz (926304) | more than 8 years ago | (#14061997)

Say what? Sorry, my browser prompted me to restart for an update.

Firefox 1.5 downloaded already via auto-update? (0, Redundant)

Greg01851 (720452) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062001)

My Firefox prompted me for an upgrade to 1.5 already... although it's not on any of the websites.

Re:Firefox 1.5 downloaded already via auto-update? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062024)

auto update is teh bomb - 10 seconds tops to install and reboot

Eh.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062006)

No digg!

Why do we care? (5, Insightful)

TheZeusJuice (766754) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062010)

Not to be a troll or anything, but why does slashdot deam every minor release of Firefox to be worthy of a story? Its no different from any other OSS. And also, anyone who uses Firefox would notice and know what the little green upward-pointing arrow on the upper-right-hand corner means.

Re:Why do we care? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062033)

Cause its important to me, now shhh ;)

Re:Why do we care? (5, Interesting)

dep01 (730107) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062039)

I love firefox.... and slashdot.... but good point, actually. "News for Nerds. Stuff that MATTERS." -- Does another RC matter? Not a whole heck of a lot. Tell me when Firefox 1.5 final is out.. Enough of the RC updates.

Re:Why do we care? (1)

Dysproxia (584031) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062584)

Yet you read the comments and wrote one yourself.

Not many of Slashdot stories matter much, and readers have different interests. Those of us who use non-English versions of Firefox might be interested to read about the update before it hits them.

Re:Why do we care? (1)

Tassach (137772) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062616)

Well, considering how buggy I found RC2 to be, it's good to find out ASAP when there's a new version available. Your browser is an important tool, probably one of the most used pieces of software on your system. Keeping it up to date is important to a lot of people. Furthermore, Firefox is one of the most widely-used and visible open-source projects. If we were talking about something like xmms, a new release would be a far less significant event.

Re:Why do we care? (2, Interesting)

SComps (455760) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062055)

I agree with you completely, but the firefox evangelists will cry if they don't get their weekly press. Sadly Firefox has become the darling child of the OSS movement because of it's successes. Those successes are largely due to the evangelists themselves, but also in no minor part to it being a vastly useful product. This separates itself from much of the OSS on the market today. Thats not to say that most OSS isn't useful, but not globally so.

Of course it's also truly sad that a web browser is the symbol for all this evangelism. I can't think of anything better, but then again does OSS really need a symbol?

It's just a browser folks. It's software and a product, like toilet paper and cheesy tasting crackers. Honestly? I'd like to see a frontpage article about Cheez-It's upgrading to a new cheezier flavor. I'd be on that like white on rice.

Re:Why do we care? (1)

MtViewGuy (197597) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062141)

Those successes are largely due to the evangelists themselves, but also in no minor part to it being a vastly useful product.

Actually, the best thing I like about Firefox is the fact most websites will now display the pages correctly with this web browser, unlike pre-Mozilla 1.7 versions and older Netscape 4.x versions. I'm all for the improvements that Firefox 1.5 will offer! :-)

Re:Why do we care? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062551)

I have to agree, the OSS world evangalized the hell out of Mozilla 1.x, and nobody used it. They've been evangalized the Linux Desktop forever, nobody uses it. They evangalize OpenOffice, nobody uses it.

Firefox caught on because it meets or exceeds Internet Explorer in nearly every aspect, not just a few cherry-picked features. In other words, it's success is due to the programmers and UI designers and has little to do with generally ignored OSS evangalism.

Re:Why do we care? (4, Insightful)

squoozer (730327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062134)

It is a little different to every other piece of OSS in one really important way - loads of people use it. It is the one real shining jewel of the OSS community so we should give it plenty of column inches.

Before I get flamed out of existance I am not saying that there aren't other good pieces of OSS - there are plenty - but Firefox / Mozilla is the _only_ one that a good number of non-geeks use (although I imagine Azureus comes close but that's a bit hard to promote).

Re:Why do we care? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062479)

The Emule is probably used by more non-geeks than firefox.

Re:Why do we care? (4, Insightful)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062140)

Actually, I never noticed a green arrow

As for why /. considers FF updates to be important, it might have something to do with the fact that FireFox seems to be one of the few (only?) reasons MS is bothering to add features to Internet Explorer.

Or it could just be that /nerds like to keep, one of the few pieces of software they interact with constantly, updated. I'm sure once MS starts cracking out Windows updates we'll see more "Critical Update" articles and that trend is vulnerable to the exact same criticism: why does slashdot deam every minor update of windows to be worthy of a story? Its no different from any other commercial software.*

*I might be stretching that one a bit, but you get the point. When all else fails, most nerds like the default setting to include as much information as possible. Which is worse: losing a few seconds of your life scanning and dismissing /. articles you don't care about or never seeing an article you might find important because someone else (/. editors) didn't think it was anything special? /end

Re:Why do we care? (5, Funny)

Jesus 2.0 (701858) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062158)

Not to be a troll or anything, but why does slashdot deam every minor release of Firefox to be worthy of a story? Its no different from any other OSS.

You just answered your own question. Slashdot deems every minor release of every OSS thing to be incredible breaking news.

I can't count the number of times I've seen front page Slashdot posts that essentially boil down to:

ThingYouNeverHeardOf 0.6.3 Released

Slashdot user Doofus [whitehouse.gov] reports that ThingYouNeverHeardOf 0.6.3 has been released. Many cool new features in this version, such as the blarglefier tool no longer causing a crash when run under Ubuntu 4.6. Licensed under the GPL! Is this the end for Microsoft?

Half the time, they never even give you a hint as to what ThingYouNeverHeardOf is supposed to be used for. Is it an email client? Is it an IDE? Is it a MIDI playback library? Does it cook my eggs? Who knows.

Re:Why do we care? (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062257)

>> Not to be a troll or anything, but why does slashdot deam every minor release of Firefox to >> be worthy of a story? Its no different from any other OSS.

> You just answered your own question. Slashdot deems every minor release of every OSS thing to > be incredible breaking news.

You need to work on your English comprehension skills. It the release of every "OSS thing" were deemed important by Slashdot then they'd all be featured here - the OP is complaining that only Firefox gets this treatment.

> I can't count the number of times I've seen front page Slashdot posts that
> essentially boil down to:
>
> ThingYouNeverHeardOf 0.6.3 Released

So work on your math skills then. Are you sure you've come to the right website?

Re:Why do we care? (1)

Jesus 2.0 (701858) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062542)

Thank you for explaining to me that I need to work on both my English and my math skills.

In return, please allow me to do you the favor of explaining to you that you need to work on your humor skills.

Re:Why do we care? (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062294)

I feel that you may have just discovered a concept called 'advertising'.
Possibly no one has thought to patent this concept.
However, your friendly PTO will be happy to slide you some justice.
So ya got that goin' for ya!
Just try not to notice that the words 'news' and 'matters' in the phrase 'News for nerds. Stuff that matters' may not mean what you think those words mean, 'K?

Re:Why do we care? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062248)

Because it makes the developers, most of whom still live in the basements of their parent's house and have never kissed a girl, feel good to get recognized on Slashdot.

So basically the Firefox group is full of people who want attention for everything little they do.

Re:Why do we care? (1)

onedotzero (926558) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062265)

I think anything involving a new FireFox update (or downloads-to-date 'milestone') or Google beta or Microsoft press release just ramps the likelyhood of getting an article published.

Are there clear benefits for having articles accepted? Maybe some Jammy Dodgers [wdir.com] or something. If that were the case I might start stea^H^H^H^Hwriting...

Re:Why do we care? (1)

Ender Ryan (79406) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062441)

Hey, I got news for you. Slashdot has always been like that. We're nerds, geeks and losers. We like these things. We like updating kernels, playing with the latest bleeding edge cool software, especially when it's something as big as FF, etc.

So fuck off.

Re:Why do we care? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062532)

So if you re a fucking nerd as your claim, wouldn't you already follow the Firefox development and know when version are released?

Or do you lack the brains to sign up for their development newsletter?

And not a moment too soon! (1)

base_chakra (230686) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062013)

Last night, just after killing FF's process due to another hang, I restarted the app and was immediately greeted with the updater's announcement of a new version. I thought it was a glitch since neither the updater nor the About box indicated that this was indeed a new release candidate.

Another RC already? (4, Interesting)

the computer guy nex (916959) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062014)

I love FireFox as much as the next guy but we need to stop bragging about "100 million downloads !!!" when a new version is out every few weeks.

Re:Another RC already? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062079)

why? everyone is doing same. for exemple micro-soft
count it user base(legit and non-legit install) from windows
update service. they dont substract query for who format and
have to download all the patchs over again.
They also dont count removed install from new PC.

Anyway, they say "100 million downloads !!!" not 100m users.

Re:Another RC already? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062144)

Do I have to rehash the "Would you jump off a cliff if everyone else did?" argument that you probably got told when you were 3 years old?

Re:Another RC already? (2, Informative)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062215)

You don't count twice in that 100 million my friend. If you are getting your updates via the update server (as any good 1.5 user should be) you aren't counted. If you go to getfirefox.com and download from the same IP address as before, you don't count. I am sure there are some duplicates, but I highly doubt it is any kind of problem like you are wanting to make it out to be.

Re:Another RC already? (2, Informative)

asavage (548758) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062219)

This is wrong for several reasons:

1. Updates aren't counted
2. Download.com, Google, and other mirrors aren't counted
3. Bundled installations (IE with a Linux distribution) aren't counted.
4. Some single downloads are installed many times in offices etc.
5. FTP, apt-get, etc. aren't counted

Only people who go to mozilla.org and download from there are counted.

Re:Another RC already? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062347)

3. Bundled installations (IE with a Linux distribution) aren't counted.

Well if you are geing IE with a Linux distribution, it shouldn't count for Moz anyway!

This is supposed to be funny....

Re:Another RC already? (4, Funny)

blazerw11 (68928) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062389)

IE with a Linux distribution

NOOOOOOO! Why would you want that?

Re:Another RC already? (1)

webzone (924183) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062366)

To my knowledge, nightlies, alphas, betas and release candidates are not counted in the number of total downloads.

Unknown upgrade (4, Interesting)

at_18 (224304) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062018)

My firefox prompted me a few hours ago about an "important upgrade", which I did. But it didn't say what this upgrade was about, and therefore I don't know if I'm running RC3 or not. It would be nice to know what has been downloaded.

Re:Unknown upgrade (2, Informative)

y0bhgu0d (168149) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062051)

look under your help->about dialog, 20051111 is the build date at the very bottom for rc3

Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5 (1)

frankie (91710) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062122)

The "About Mozilla Firefox" box only says 1.5 (Build 2005111116), nothing specifically says RC3.

However, the release notes are now up [mozilla.org] .

Re:Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5 (4, Informative)

dolphinling (720774) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062243)

To quote Asa Dotzler [mozillazine.org] ,

For those wondering why this is called Firefox 1.5 and not Firefox 1.5 RC2, it's because this is a genuine release candidate. The build you have, if no problems are found, will be Firefox 1.5. If we called it RC2 in the actual client, it wouldn't be a real release candidate because we'd have to make changes to the name and then create new builds.

Lucky you (1)

matt me (850665) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062260)

Lucky you. When the first version of 1.5 came out, after trying it on Linux that was an infinitely quicker and smoother browser, I installed on my parents computer. About a week a later I found out one of them had managed to 'upgrade' back to version 1.0 and it's buggy slowness.

A bit late :P (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062029)

You're a bit late. :P

If you're running any of the 1.5 release candidates you might have automatically downloaded the latest incremental update a while ago, and hit 1.5 proper.

I got updated to 1.5RC3 a few days ago (probably around when you submitted the article...) and tonight I got bumped up to 1.5. I think they must be releasing via the auto update first to stagger the release load...

Re:A bit late :P (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062062)

No. It may say "Firefox 1.5" in the About box, but it is one of RC2 or RC3 at this point. It doesn't say "RC" in the version string because then it would not, in fact, be a candidate for release; they would have to change the version string and rebuild.

Mozilla are doing thing The Right Way, which is rare these days. They even follow the proper definition of Alpha & Beta, which is even rarer.

Re:A bit late :P (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062092)

Congratulations. Another AC just explained it, but you don't have a clue.

Re:A bit late :P (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062112)

No, actually, you're not running 1.5 -- yet. You're most likely running 1.5 RC3. "Release candidate", you see, implies it is one of the versions likely to be the final one.

If no problems are found, RC3 will be considered the final version. Then, and only then, will you *actually* have Firefox 1.5. Since its version number is already 1.5, no updates will be necessary.

Re:A bit late :P (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062210)

Good Lord man! What is it with the English on this site this morning?

"I got updated to 1.5RC3"

"I have been updated to 1.5RC3"

or better in an active rather than passive voice,

"I updated to 1.5RC3"

Re:A bit late :P (1)

Hobbes828 (880721) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062576)

Ummm.. because you are not doing the updating, that is why "have been updated" or "got updated" is more correct, the active voice would be It updated me, because that way in all cases the subject, I, is the direct object.

(No i don't use perfect spelling or grammar or usually correct people, but if you are going to criticize, i suppose it's only fair).

Much faster, Plugins are updated, Source (4, Informative)

tronicum (617382) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062041)

I tried RC1 and now I swichted at my work PC to RC3, too. It checks if your plugins are working and gets you the latest updates (in my case adblock+ and pdf download). Compared to the 1.4 debian package it renders pages much faster, but (at least with Linux) the font rendering changed a bit. Even this textarea text is now smoothed (a bit to much for my taste) but I enoy the speed.

Good work Mozilla. I can't wait to see the source to look if they cleaned it up yeat. Last time I built mozilla from scratch is was filled with switches which where not supported for ages (like native qt support).

In related news... (0, Troll)

Leffe (686621) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062042)

In related news, the fifth hourly Firefox build of today just finished building OMG OMG OMG!!!

old bug still not fixed (4, Interesting)

potaz (211754) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062060)

And the truncating title text bug that arbitrarily drops information from websites still hasn't been fixed. It's now five years old! Hooray!

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45375 [mozilla.org]

I think Moz is a great project, but I use Opera because things like this are allowed to linger for um, half a decade, instead of being fixed.

WTF? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062185)

WTF? When I clicked the link on parent, i got:
Ook!

Sorry, links to Bugzilla from Slashdot are disabled.

Anti-Slashdot-Effect? Or anti-massive-bashing?

Re:WTF? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062255)

Yes, it refuse to serve content with the slashdot.org referrer field.

Just paste the address into a new tab/window.

Re:WTF? (0)

dolphinling (720774) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062275)

Or "People are actually trying to do work there, and they can't if the server's down".

Bugs solved from RC2 (3, Interesting)

darteaga (806257) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062061)

http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/200 5/11/17/15rc3-available/ [mozilla.org]

Notice that RC will be the final version if there are no new bugs.

Re:Bugs solved from RC2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062385)

Notice that RC will be the final version if there are no new bugs.

No way?! It's almost like this release is some sort of candidate, which they may release. I guess you could say it's a Release Candidate. What an amazing concept!

Good, if you are running a RC: Help - Check for.. (2, Interesting)

amcdiarmid (856796) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062063)

I have been running rc2, and it works well but it does have some freezing issues.

From http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/200 5/11/17/15rc3-available/ [mozilla.org] (The release notes blog):

        * A recent regression that either crashes or breaks certain usages of innerHTML for dynamic applications. (315189/315999)
        * A recent regression and most common RC2 crash (316025)

Hopefully, this will resolve most of my issues.

Remember, if you can't wait a day or so for the auto update: Help -> Check for Updates. (If you are running a RC of 1.5)

Kudos for the dev team.

Fixed drag and drop (2, Informative)

BenjyD (316700) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062087)

They fixed the drag-and-drop crashes I was seeing all the time in RC1/2. It was getting really annoying having the browser lockup all the time whenever I accidentally dragged a tab or some text.

Website says it.... (1)

Donniedarkness (895066) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062111)

As of last night (when I submitted the story), the official site mentioned it.

Anyways, I can't see much different in this version, but it's supposed to fix some bugs.

But what about the plugin manager ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062183)

Big deal.

Unless they've fixed the plugin manager so that it stops annoying me about not having flash installed.

No thankyou I don't want flash installing. Not now, not ever. So stop annoying me you clods.

Re:But what about the plugin manager ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062323)

It'll get fixed when you patch it. Here's the source code [mozilla.org] ; go nuts. On *nix systems at least, here's the offending source code line [mozilla.org] .

has been just been released (5, Funny)

thebdj (768618) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062208)

has been just been released

I hear the new RC has a grammar and spell check that automatically fixes slashdot before it loads...

Did they fix memory leak problems yet (2, Interesting)

kekec (901056) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062209)

Every time I use firefox and open a few tabs my vm size goes to 1GB. It's getting ridiculous how developers of firefox are ignoring to fix this problem. I hope they fixed this otherwise it gets uninstalled once IE 7 comes out Apart from tabbed browsing and few cool addons It's just not worth it in my opinion.

Memory leakage (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062236)

Has that pesky memory leakage problem been solved or what? You know, that thing when you dl-ed pr0n for hours and after closing FF you'd ctrl-alt-del-ed to see that FF still uses a *HUGE* sh1tl04d of memory.

Significance? (1)

beforewisdom (729725) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062240)

Is there anything user visible and interesting with this release?

Re:Significance? (1)

dolphinling (720774) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062335)

Burning edge hasn't updated, but from my own trawlings through bonsai, the following checkins were made:

  • Bug 313335 Update the URL bar before showing security warnings r+sr=jag a=asa
  • Fix bug 316025 -- no need to create a wrapper on plugin teardown if we don't have one already. r+sr=jst, a=mscott
  • Bug #315189 --> Loading this url crashes [@ nsHTMLDocument::MatchLinks] Camino and Firefox Fix a probme with inline style rules on innerDiv elements that was breaking Yahoo! webmail. patch by bz r/sr=jst a=me
  • bug 316674, compare-locales should support reasonable numbers of ordered search engines, r=gandalf, sr=bsmedberg, a=mscott,chase

The end user visible ones would be the first, second, and third.

MSIE activescript (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062289)

For those who don't know, MS IE can run perl and python scripts just like javascript (as long as the programs are installed), with &ltscript="python"&gt ... &lt/script&gt.

Why not Mozilla?
If mozilla allows this then opera will follow and people will be able to put python/perl/anything scripts into their web pages instead of the braindamaged javascript language. Plus we'll also avoid the AJAX hype stories every now and then on the media sites.

But seems like mozilla likes the fact that they have the control of the javascript vm and they wouldn't like to lose it! Props MS!

Alright, alright (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14062365)

Every Firefox release candidate gets an article. Why is there all this frustrated sexual tension between Slashdot and Firefox? Geez, just fuck and get it over with.

Did they fix the memory leaks? (1)

krelian (525362) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062501)

I love firefox, but after using it extensively for a couple of hours it occupies about a third of my available memory and a lot of VM. I know that there are a lot of complains about this but I have found no solution. This should definitely be the top priority for firefox developers.

Looks like version 1.5 to me. (1)

cpdsaorg (733031) | more than 8 years ago | (#14062553)

After getting back to my desk I saw the update window for Firefox. After clicking on it it restarted and the new Help>About window shows 1.5. Nothing about 1.5-rc3.

One thing I find a little dissapointing is that it does not save the links to the pages you were surfing but instead brings you to your default home pages. While I know this might be a little hard to do or deal with due to post information on some pages but it would be nice for firefox to attempt to bring you back to the place you were before.
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