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Open Source Media Changes Name

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the i-liked-their-old-name-better dept.

Media 116

SPYvSPY writes "In a move that emphasizes the differences between the blog media and big media, the so-called 'Open Source Media' group changed their name back to 'Pajamas Media' in response to public criticism, including (presumably) yesterday's posting on Slashdot. Regardless of any political bent in their coverage, Pajamas Media acknowledged the public's criticisms and did something about it with remarkable speed, frankness and good humor."

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DISEASED COCK, IN YOUR MOUTH (0, Troll)

(TK)Dessimat0r (668222) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091159)

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Lame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091166)

"Pajamas with the Socks in it Media" would have been cooler

Re:Lame (1)

Zoobster (892491) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092363)

"... including (presumably) yesterday's posting on Slashdot. Regardless of any political bent in their coverage..." Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, /. (especially for (non-existent) vaporious accolades you (presumably) attribute to your (maybe) self.

An Announcement (5, Funny)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091172)

My previously mentioned [slashdot.org] Free Software, Inc. will now be called Open Source Media, Inc.

Re:An Announcement (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091801)

LET Me be the first one in Minnesota who ordered an Xbox 360 from Gamestop to say: FUCK UPS.

Man... those little shitbrained fools delayed my Xbox 360 shipment until tomorrow becase their plane was a little late. Which meant that it landed here at 5:30am. Which, for some reason, results in an overnight package that was supposed to be delivered by 3:00pm to be delayed until the next day.

And yes, I am a crybaby. And yes, I am pouting. And no, I can't just go pick it up today. That's also too complex for them.

Re:An Announcement (0, Offtopic)

JustOK (667959) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091939)

At least you weren't mugged [in-forum.com] like others in Minnesota.

Re:An Announcement (1)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092027)

MINOT, N.D. != Minnesota

Also, for those that have seen the movie Fargo, Fargo, ND != Minnesota.

Thank you, and God Bless.

Re:An Announcement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14092823)

whatever, it still must be nice to live in the place famous for growing potatoes

So let me get this straight... (4, Insightful)

Bogtha (906264) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091199)

They change their name and get lots of publicity. They change it back, they got lots more publicity, and praise on Slashdot. Is that about right? Seems the name change did exactly what it was meant to.

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

Frymaster (171343) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091415)

They change their name and get lots of publicity. They change it back, they got lots more publicity, and praise on Slashdot. Is that about right? Seems the name change did exactly what it was meant to.

wait til they get sued by pyjamas media next week....

Re:So let me get this straight... (5, Insightful)

sammy baby (14909) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091448)

I think you're giving them too much credit.

This is pretty obviously (to me) an example of blog triumphalism gone awry. You have a buch of bloggers ranging from the conservative to the frothing-at-the-mouth reactionary. One of them says, "Hey: if we all start IMing each other, we can make serious cash!"

Their business model really isn't much better fleshed out than that.

For an amusing take on their launch party, read this blog entry [jimlowney.com] about a professional photojournalist who was invited.

Re:So let me get this straight... (3, Funny)

GQuon (643387) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091810)

You have a buch of bloggers ranging from the conservative to the frothing-at-the-mouth reactionary.

Oh, so they are bi-partisan? ;-)

This is beside the point (1)

SPYvSPY (166790) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091972)

I can't tell if you're attacking their business acumen, their politics, or both, but it either way you're missing the point. There was a story yesterday about the name "Open Source Media", and a lot of commenters had a gripe with the use of 'Open Source' in that context. I submitted this story as a follow-up because it is interesting to me that they acted so quickly in response to public criticism. You can deem it opportunism or incompetence if you like, but my opinion is that they (unlike, say, CBS) are a news outlet (yes, I said it) that is paying close attention to what their readers are saying.

Re:This is beside the point (1)

MemeRot (80975) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092534)

Nobody had a gripe with Open Source used in that context. People had a gripe that the company name Open Source Media was already taken by http://www.radioopensource.org/ [radioopensource.org] , who still in fact operate opensourcemedia.net (redirects to their site), while the opensourcemedia.com name claimed by Pajama Media is, in fact, just the 'how to get started with Zope' welcome page, not even a redirect to their real page. They just didn't look for conflicting trademarks.

Re:This is beside the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14092755)

No, in fact a great many people had a gripe with "open source" being used in that context. [theshapeofdays.com]

Re:This is beside the point (1)

MemeRot (80975) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092931)

I don't see anyone complaining about 'open source' on that page, except for one line pointing out that Pajama Media isn't selling software. Post an example maybe?

Re:This is beside the point (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14094158)

Reading not your strong suit, huh?

In computer jargon, "open source" refers to any computer program for which the source code -- kind of like the recipe -- is available to the public. The vast majority of computer-software companies treat their source code as a closely guarded trade secret. A few give their source code away, usually as part of a PR or marketing ploy to attract attention and build buzz.

But PJ Media Open Source Media isn't selling computer programs. They're ... well, it's kind of tough to tell exactly what they're doing. According to their Web site, "OSM's mission is to expand the influence of weblogs by finding and promoting the best of them, providing bloggers with a forum to meet and share resources, and the chance to join a for-profit network that will give them additional leverage to pursue knowledge wherever they may find it." What that means in concrete terms is as much your guess as mine.

And that's really kind of the problem, isn't it? Here's a new business venture that's out there spending a lot of money and generating a lot of buzz, and they've abandoned their established brand and deployed a new one that's utterly forgettable, and to the extent that it has connotations, it has all the wrong ones.


You = teh stoopit.

Re:This is beside the point (1)

sammy baby (14909) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092894)

To answer your question, I'm making fun of... well, both, I guess.

In terms of their politics, I'm making fun of their insistance that the whole group is supposed to represent a broad cross-section of political views, when their left-most blogger is Glenn Reynolds, a guy who weighed in on the issue of torture of Iraqi prisoners by US forces by claiming that Dems should just keep quiet about it, or they'll just make the whole thing worse [instapundit.com] .

In terms of their business model, I'm just wondering when they're going to wond up with a sock puppet for a mascot.

In any case, I didn't mean to suggest that this was a topic unworthy of discussion, or that you shouldn't have submitted the story. I'm just suggesting that the proper category may have been "It's Funny. Laugh."

Re:This is beside the point (1)

brianerst (549609) | more than 8 years ago | (#14093103)

In terms of their politics, I'm making fun of their insistance that the whole group is supposed to represent a broad cross-section of political views, when their left-most blogger is Glenn Reynolds
While it's true that Pajamas Media/OSM/name of the day has more than its fair share of right-leaning blogs (though I think the more apt description would be hawkish, as a fair number of those blogs are "Democrats that feel like they were mugged on 9/11"), I wouldn't call Glenn their left-most member. David Corn [osm.org] is a member of their editorial board and also a columnist for The Nation, that notorious right-wing rag...

They also have a goodly number of libertarians and people who don't pigeonhole easily (Tammy Bruce [osm.org] is a self-described "openly gay, pro-choice, gun owning, pro-death penalty, voted-for-President Bush progressive feminist" who was also the LA chapter president of NOW). Still, there's no denying that Mr. Corn is a rather lonely voice right now, and I hope that they can address the balance issue in some way (although how many left-leaning blogs are going to want to join is an open question).

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

Tim Doran (910) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092222)

For another amusing take on their launch party, see James Wolcott [jameswolcott.com] . Worth the read.

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

delong (125205) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092662)

Wolcott is just jealous he doesn't have some babe rubbing her titties on him. ;P

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

Yrrebnarg (629526) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091504)

The term for this is "buzz marketing" and whether or not it was on purpose, I agree that it probably didn't do anything but help them in the long term, although there are lots of internet kiddies who hold a grudge. It's hard to start a grass-roots marketing campaign and even harder to do it by accident. At least they didn't do something cheap like make some small town change its name to pajamamedia.com like Santa and Halfway, OR.

Welcome to.... (2)

GQuon (643387) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092047)

Open Source, South Carolina. State chosen to make the city name hard to pronounce. Everybody lives in caravans because nobody can keep people off their land.

Pajamas, Pennsylvania (alliteration is fun)

Indymedia, Indiana. It's placed smack dab in the middle of Indiana.

Sourceforge, Georgia

Windows, Wisconsin. Just make city ordinance requiring everybody to paint their houses blue. Elevators have this [unito.it] installed.

Pajamas, Nevada. (A bedroom community outside Las Vegas.)

Pajamas, New Mexico. New media. New Mexico. Pronounced in a Spanish accent. "Pahamas". Gets lots of tourists who thought they were going to the Bahamas.

Starbucks, The Moon. (A mining community in Mare Nectaris. If your name contains "Star", it better be related to space.)

Slashdot, Kansas. You love torrents. Now build a torrent-proof basement. And ruby slippers. Situated on the railway line between Darwin, Kansas and Pat Robertson, Kansas.

No (2, Interesting)

GQuon (643387) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091619)

Why not believe their story about this?
  1. Branding firm gives pricey advice
  2. Advice is taken
  3. Calamity!

It signifies an unprofessional attitude rather than a clever PR stunt. If they had a slashdotter in their core team, I think they would have thought of running a search in the USPTO database before settling on a name. Any PR from an extra slashdot post is miniscule compared to the unprofessional appearance this resulted in.

I don't think Pajamas Media will stay as a name for long either....

Dislaimer: Slashdot is a part of the Open Source Technology Group [ostg.com] . Please don't sue us....

Re:So let me get this straight... (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092197)

> They change their name and get lots of publicity. They change it back, they got lots more
> publicity, and praise on Slashdot. Is that about right? Seems the name change did exactly what
> it was meant to.

Nice shill! (Please paypal my share to Shill02@hotmail.com)

They may also want to change .. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14093196)

They may also want to change their website icon while they are at it.

http://www.osm.org/favicon.ico [osm.org]

http://plone.org/favicon.ico [plone.org]

Errors/Corrections? (0)

garcia (6573) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091213)

Perhaps they should add this to their Errors and Corrections [osm.org] area ;-)

Why Pajamas? (5, Informative)

xfletch (623022) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091242)

Jonathan Klein [cnn.com] of CNN was debating with Stephen Hayes about the CBS forgery scandal. Klein said that "Bloggers have no checks and balances . . . it is just a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas."

Re:Why Pajamas? (0)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091416)

So, are pajamas a requirement of being a blogger now? If so, are there some outfits that are considered more suitable than others? And how will we refer to people who do their blogging in the nude?

Re:Why Pajamas? (2, Interesting)

Chr0nik (928538) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091623)

DINGDINGDING, we have a winnar!!!!

They are probably poking fun at that statement with the name. Not that that's a bad thing. If I had the choice between going to work for some corporate monstrosity, and sitting in my living room in my pajamas. My remsume would be on the BIG pile.

Re:Why Pajamas? (1)

B3ryllium (571199) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091717)

And it would be promptly eliminated as a candidate with all those typos. :)

Re:Why Pajamas? (1)

Chr0nik (928538) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092395)

You are probably correct, grammar has never been my strong point. However, I do take a bit more time on my resumes than I do on my /. posts.

Now I'm all self-conscious. Great! :)

Re:Why Pajamas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091791)

I'm just a guy sitting in my living room in my pajamas, you insensitive clod!

Re:Why Pajamas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091840)

Why pajamas? Because they're not British.

Re:Why Pajamas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14092605)

Knowing most bloggers they're actually naked with a bottle of hand lotion next to them: Blogger.com open in one tab and Thehun.net open in the other.

Re:Why Pajamas? (1)

Cyno (85911) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092746)

Yeah, like CNN or Fox have checks and balances. The only thing they check is whether Karl Rove agrees with their voice of opinion and the occational glance at the poll numbers to be sure they can get away with it.

Aside from the pajamas I see no difference between bloggers and "professional" journalists. Very few are investigative journalists and very few of those have the opportunity to investigate anything more interesting than cats getting caught in trees.

Do you want investigative journalism or business as usual?

If you want investigative journalism, like security and quality in software, support open source, support your bloggers. The media industry will compete when you ignore them and calmly explain how you can get an equivelent product/service from your friend for free. Once you "get it" that they're not really necessary, they'll "get it" and start doing their job for their customers like they always should have.

Re:Why Pajamas? (1)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092821)

on FR they are called the pajamahadeen

Hoary Hedgehog dethroned (2, Funny)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091250)

And so, a new champion rised in the world of horribly silly open-source names.

Is the point really to make the application / technology users blush when they have to give away the name?

Re:Hoary Hedgehog dethroned (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091522)

You haven't heard of the gay duck [slashdot.org] ? It gets so much worse.

Re:Hoary Hedgehog dethroned (1)

theodicey (662941) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091706)

Well on the one hand...they have a horribly silly name.

On the other hand...they scooped the MainStream Media in getting it!

For the MSM to miss out on such an obvious strategy, they must be asleep at the wheel, just like during "Rathergate."

Ergo, the MSM is dying.

Re:Hoary Hedgehog dethroned (1)

CdBee (742846) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091759)

Just wait, Lubricious Llama will reclaim the throne..

Not keeping up (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091933)

> And so, a new champion rised in the world of horribly silly open-source names.

If you actually followed things you would know what is going on..... Pajamas Media was the working name of the outfit. I.E. when they decided to try cashing in on this whole journalism in your pajamas thing. "Journalism in your pajamas" was how the MSM always referred to bloggers, long rich tradition there of taking a term of derision hurled by your foe and turning it back on them by adopting it as your own term. Well anyway, they all knew it wouldn't fly in production use and did all the usual things companies do when picking a 'brand name'. Except someone didn't do quite enough checking and they got into trouble. So now they are back to Pajamas Media while they come up with a name again.

And Taco's (don't try and weasel by claiming it to be SpyVSSpy's words, there were a hundred submissions and you picked that one for a reason) attempt at slander in the blurb only reveals the 'political bent' of this site.

Re:Not keeping up (1)

delong (125205) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092598)

attempt at slander in the blurb only reveals the 'political bent' of this site

Especially considering they're talking about Roger Simon, fercrissakes. Attempt at slander is right. Simon is a long-time card carrying liberal. It's just that he's now a "September 11 liberal" as he would say, and it is instructive to see the response.

Re:Not keeping up (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 8 years ago | (#14093184)

> Tt's just that he's now a "September 11 liberal" as he would say, and it is
> instructive to see the response.

There are a fair number of those. Christopher Hitchens being another "Proud to be called a Leftist" Progressive drummed out of the order for disagreeing with the orthodox view of 9-11. All of the sane voices on the Left broke ranks over 9-11 which is why all they have left are crazed moonbats. Sane folk took UBL at his word that civilization was now in a steel cage grudge match to the death with the forces of howling barbarian madness and rapidly came to the conclusion that they would stand on the side of civilization. Even if it did mean being on the same side as Shrubbie. Only a fool fights in a burning house. They can and will oppose Bush on many issues and might even seek to replace him at the ballot box, but in a choice of him or UBL they didn't pick UBL's side out of spite.

The moonbat left, on the other hand, took the "Anybody but America" side as a pure reflex response, most lacking the higher mental faculties needed to have any other reaction.

If you think I'm being too hard on them, consider who recently said "America isn't worth dying for." Or who called the people who intentionally blow up civilians, when they can't cut off their heads with a camcorder running, "Patriots, much like our own minutemen."

And for the Eurotrash leftist who I just KNOW will be chiming in with some drivel about our bombs killing civilians and thereby attempting some perverted moral equivilence between the US military and UBL's barbarian hordes, let me stop you right here. Intent DOES count. Yes dead is still dead but there is a huge moral difference between aiming at a valid military target and accidentally killing civilians and going after them intentionally.

Look people, this is a War. Us killing UBL's troops is fair game. UBL going after our soldiers is fair game too. Being an American who wants our side to prevail I don't LIKE it when American soldiers are killed but am mature enough to understand that is what War is; it is why War should always be a last resort. But blowing up marketplaces and wedding parties is NOT fair game. Now pop quiz time, which side is killing the innocent on purpose? All right, now go crawl back into the hole you crawled out of and cancel that flame you were already typing.

As usual the US military is doing the hard work of protecting the world from evil and saving Europe's butt yet again. We should know by now to only expect ingratitude and snarky remarks as thanks but we can't save our own hides this time without also saving yours.

Re:Not keeping up (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14094505)

If you actually followed things you would know what is going on

don't try and weasel by claiming it to be SpyVSSpy's words

Are you having a bad day today?

Thanks for the informative parts of your post though, it helped someone who didn't actually follow this too closely.

So how many /.'ers are reading this in their PJ's? (1)

xmas2003 (739875) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091262)

or boxers, briefs, or nada ...

Re:So how many /.'ers are reading this in their PJ (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14092065)

That would be a great slashdot poll:

Boxers
Briefs
Pajamas
Nada
Cowboyneal

Fool me twice... (4, Insightful)

jfabermit (688258) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091266)

First they lie about owning opensourcemedia.net, which is owned by Christopher Lydon's radio outlet. Then they lie about owning opensourcemedia.com, which is owned by Zope. They create some BS explanation for how the acronym is "easier to type", and we are supposed to grant them any credibility. They my be famous bloggers, but their notions about running a new website show them to be hacks when it comes to IT issues.

Owned by Zope? No (2, Informative)

MemeRot (80975) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092556)

That's the 'how to get started with Zope page'. They've apparently set up a web server, installed Zope, and then didn't bother to configure the actual site. It's the equivalent of the IIS 'No web page is yet configured for this address' page.

On the site (1)

bjorniac (836863) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091270)

On TFA ther is a banner that contains a quote from someone at their organisation, calling it Open Source Media... Methinks a publicity stunt has been pulled here: Change name to something controversial, get Slashdot etc riled up about it, get a lot of page hits etc, change name back.

Pajamas Media? (2, Funny)

daniil (775990) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091276)

Whose bedroom are they reporting from?

Re:Pajamas Media? (3, Funny)

Xarius (691264) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091414)

Your moms!

</ZING>

Re:Pajamas Media? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14092223)

Your moms!

Is that the same-sex marriage version of the infamous "Your Mom!" comeback?

Or did you just forget an apostrophe?

Pajamas Media? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091285)

Well, that puts that one to bed...

Neat (1)

thesnarky1 (846799) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091296)

Good to see that.

That's a little presumptuous... (1)

Nimrangul (599578) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091322)

It may not have anything to do with the slashdot posting at all, they may have already gotten more than enough critical commentary about the old-new name that they decided it would avoid further problems to just go back, and then the slashdot posting just really pissed them off.

Don't forget, when you presume, you make a pres out of u and me.

Uhhh.... (1)

SPYvSPY (166790) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091381)

What's a 'pres'? And at least I told you it was presumptuous.

Re:Uhhh.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091526)

You assume too much.

Re:Uhhh.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091587)

What's a 'pres'?

It's short for president. Presuming can turn you into George W Bush (If a fan of George W Bush then consider that it could turn you into Bill Clinton (If a fan of Grorge Bush and Bill Clinton then consider that it could turn you into Richard Nixon (if you are a fan of all the aforementioned then please seek help before it's too late(it's probably already too late)))).

Re:Uhhh.... (1)

Nimrangul (599578) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092097)

It's called a joke son, obviously you've never heard of the saying, "when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me."

Stop the insanity! (0)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091359)

Someone needs to open shop with the Dumbest Name Ever and others will stop trying.

I mean, Pajamas Media? The name alone makes me want to lob ebola bombs into orphanages and run busses full of nuns off the road. No, wait... that how I always feel. Never mind about that.

Anyway, someone please start "Grotty Foo-Foo Linux" or "Neener Neener Neeeeeeeeeeener Media" or some such intellect grating piffle of a name.

Any other suggestions?

Re:Stop the insanity! (1)

tsaler (569835) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091551)

Yeah, okay, but there is a reason for the name "Pajamas Media."

An old media person claimed that bloggers have no checks and balances on their work, saying that it's "a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas."

So, they decided to take that and spin it to their own advantage. I'm with you on there being too many stupid names in online media, but at least this one sort of makes sense. You can explain Gentoo Linux to me all day though if you want.

Re:Stop the insanity! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14092348)

So, they decided to take that and spin it to their own advantage.

I think the spinning that this story talks about has been to their advantage, but their new name per se? Doubt it.

You can explain Gentoo Linux to me all day though if you want.

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Re:Stop the insanity! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091896)

Okay,

G o o o o o o o g l e!

Re:Stop the insanity! (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092319)

Well, google was named after googol, wasn't it?

My favorite (1)

MemeRot (80975) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092597)

There's a store near me called Barefoot Shoes.

Every time I go by, I just wonder WTF?

One of the cooler ones I've seen though is Ho Lee Chow (chinese takeout).

Re:Stop the insanity! (1)

slo_learner (729232) | more than 8 years ago | (#14093026)

I've always been partial to the lesbian bike delivery service in San Francisco named Lickety Split.

No really, I'm not making a bad joke, it was a real business.

Re:Stop the insanity! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14094066)

I've done commercial work for the "Blah blah blah" agency

Tricky Pictures Hires New York Rep Firm Blah Blah Blah [boardsmag.com]

A lot of publicity (3, Insightful)

honeypotslash (927312) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091371)

They are getting a lot of attention on this. I, personally, had never heard of Pajamas Media before this. I'm sure they are soaking up the aftermath of this debate with a lot of free advertising.
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OSP (1)

trollable (928694) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091443)

I didn't follow all the details of this story but I would be very interested to get away from my current vendor lock-in. So where can I get one of these open-source pajamas?

Re: Changes Name... (1)

Ruvim (889012) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091444)

Back to your pajamas [google.com] naughty boys!

ho#mo (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091457)

here, please do up my toys. I'Dm

ESR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091541)

And no, ESR did not coin the term "Open Source".

Re:ESR (1)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 8 years ago | (#14093076)

No, he just co-opted it for the purpose of more effectively flagellating the community with his insane rantings.

I'd like the guy more if he weren't such an insane, right-wing douchebag (and one who claims not to be an insane, right-wing douchebag, at that. Is there anything worse than that?)

bedroom politics (1)

Mr.Fork (633378) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091561)

Pajamas has no business in the bedrooms of Slashdotters!

The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth... (2, Insightful)

daniil (775990) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091573)

Unfortunately, it seems that this is one of the myths they'll never be able to bust. The myth about the so-called New Media not being media, about blogs being the voice of the experts. I mean, fuck, look at us, the commentators on one of the bigger blogs -- we're nothing but a bunch of egomaniacs who think that they "get it", but really don't when it comes to application development, IT, networking, etc... Unfortunately, we're far too common.

Re:The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth.. (3, Insightful)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091709)

we're nothing but a bunch of egomaniacs who think that they "get it", but really don't when it comes to application development, IT, networking, etc... Unfortunately, we're far too common.

Speaking as a card-carrying egomaniac, I'd like to think that I come up with a few cogent and well reasoned ideas now and then. And the fact is this is a forum for people's knowledge as well as their opinions. I find that more often than not, people here open up avenues of discussion about topics that the mainstream media won't touch because they don't fit conveniently into a sound bite or might piss off the advertisers.

Maybe not everyone here has two neurons to rub together, but I think the vast majority of us can back up our egos with knowledge and common sense.

Re:The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth.. (1)

GQuon (643387) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091749)

The myth about the so-called New Media not being media, about blogs being the voice of the experts.
When I read this, it looks like to contradictory points.

You're saying that
- New Media is media
and that
- blogs are NOT the voice of the experts

The "new media" is media too. That's in the definition. A discussion about how new media turn main-stream with higher readership would be interesting.

When it comes to experts, every moron and his little sister has a blog these days. But some experts do too. You'll find experts in many fields with blogs. What's good about blogs is that the experts can be challenged by their readers, either by email or comments, and by other blogs. They fact-check and opinion-check each other to oblivion or to fame. This massive interactivity is what attracts about blogs. Before, the most you could realistically hope for from the big paper was some sort of non-retraction retraction hidden among the classifieds.....

Re:The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth.. (0, Troll)

daniil (775990) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092978)

I should've made it more clear that what I said in my post was mostly in response to what these 'pajama journalists' wrote on their web page [osm.org] : In the 1960's, the medium may have been the message, but in the new century, it's time for the medium to get out of the way. I can't see how this is possible -- how it's possible for blogs to give us "the experts themselves". For a blogger is still a "mediated expert": he still has only a subset of the facts, and he doesn't write everything he knows in his blog. In the end, the main difference between 'new' and 'old' media is, instead of "experts say", we get "I, $expert, say". Yes, these experts (or people pretending to be experts) are a legion, but what they produce isn't something qualitatively new.

The only area where I have, so far, noticed any difference is disaster-reporting. Blogs have brought disasters (invcluding war) to your bedroom. But I tend to see this change as a negative one: you still get lots of lies and misinformation just like you got from the 'old media', except that it's all loaded with tons of emotion, making you less critical about what you read or see.

Re:The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth.. (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091854)

Pish posh! The biggest problem *I* have with Slashdot is that everyone considers themselves an "expert" when they aren't. I am! I've said many things of great import over the years and like to think that I've had a fairly wide ranging influence over the readers. In fact, I even argue that some of the industry's so-called "experts" like John Dvorak have read my JEs and posts with relish and have used them as source material for their columns. Where else would Dvorak have come up with the idea that games development leads to GUI breakthroughs? I said that like... ten years ago on Slashdot. Back when it used to be called Usenet.

I don't submit any questions to the Mythbusters because I've already debunked all the myths. A few examples:

1. The American economy is improving. (Busted this myth in 2002)
2. The American economy is collapsing. (Busted this myth in 2004)
3. The moon launch was a fake. (Busted this myth in 1969 before I was even born)
4. The moon is real. (Busted this myth in a past life as a sea slug 40 million years ago)
5. Xenu the clam wasn't real (Busted that myth in 1995)
5. L.Ron Hubbard is a con man (Busted that myth in 1996)
5. Tom Cruise likes curly fries (Busted that myth in 2001)
5. President Bush doesn't eat babies (Busted in 2005)

And so you see, I have quite an illustrious body of work that shows "prior art" in the Myth Busting realm. So I claim ownership of all myth busting from here on out. Ask me the questions folks and I'll produce!!! ;P

Re:The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth.. (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#14094509)

Dude... what's with all the repition on item "5"? Did your key get stuck or something? Get over yourself...

Re:The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth.. (1)

serano (544693) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092186)

I consider /. more of a forum than a blog.

Re:The Myttbusters should try and bust this myth.. (1)

corellon13 (922091) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092523)

I'm not sure that the problem is that people claim to be experts. In fact, I haven't read many articles that start off with I am an expert and know everything about what I'm talking about...prior to discussing the topic. I think the real problem is close to what you are getting at.

People are lazy and assume that if it's in print, on TV, on the radio, or on a webpage, it must be true and it must be backed up by facts from experts. That is exactly why I think blogs and forums like /. are so important. Because people are beginning to realize that most of these people posting and reporting may not (and arguably definitely not) as smart and knowledgable as the person receiving the information. Therefore, I think this will prompt people to get off our lazy @#$ and research those things we care about or are skeptical about. You can blame people for crappy and outright false reporting/blogging, but I think the person who takes this stuff on faith is the real problem. My hope is that the average Joe will start to be more skeptical of all reporting, especially what we hear from our politicians, which can only be a good thing IMO.

Did I miss something yesterday? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091574)

What's all this talk about stupid names? I took a look at their website yesterday to see what the hubbub was about, but didn't see anything that bad. It looked like they chose the name "Open Source Media" without a full understanding of what the open source community would expect from something with such a title. Now that they know, they are going back to to their original name.

Yeeeach! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14091628)

"Blog media"? Is "big media" prohibited from using a particularly annoying buzzword [thebestpag...iverse.net] , or what does the story submitter mean?

This just in... (1)

djupedal (584558) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091700)

...OSM PR claims all fuss over nothing, as the correct declared new corporate name was meant to be 'Open Sores Media.' Something about being on the bleeding edge...

Sorry for the confusion - back to your nap.

For our non-American Speaking Readers (2, Funny)

Dr_LHA (30754) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091755)

In English "Pajamas" is "Pyjamas". Its not a mispelling, its just the crazy American way of spelling the work.

Re:For our non-American Speaking Readers (1)

daeley (126313) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091866)

In English "Pajamas" is "Pyjamas". Its not a mispelling, its just the crazy American way of spelling the work.

Yep! Just like our crazy American way of using apostrophes to indicate a contraction, even for pronouns! ;D

Re:For our non-American Speaking Readers (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091898)

> In English "Pajamas" is "Pyjamas". Its not a mispelling, its just
> the crazy American way of spelling the work.

And they think "jail" is spelled "gaol". These are people I should take spelling advice from?

Lawsuits may yet come... (3, Insightful)

Parity (12797) | more than 8 years ago | (#14091891)

According to TFA, the OSM name came from a 'branding company'. Now, personally, if I'd hired 'experts' to come and design my 'corporate image' and ended up with this fiasco, I'd be looking to get my money back. I suspect a lot of people would be looking for not just a refund but 'compensation' for the 'damage' done to them (not that in the end they're really damaged, I think... lots of free publicity... but you know how these things work.) I'd sure like to know who the 'branding' company' was so that I can be sure to never, ever hire them or see them hired by any employer of mine...

A better name (1)

KrackHouse (628313) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092020)

I was thinking "Longtail Media" with homer in the Safety Salamander costume as the logo.

Slashdot should change their name, too! (1)

callipygian-showsyst (631222) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092262)

Slashdot should change their name!


How about I-hate-Microsoft-dot or Apple-Dot?

After RTFA'ing ... (1)

Infernal Device (865066) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092725)

They managed to go through a whole sequence of fund-raising and hire a branding company which came back with a totally inappropriate and appropriated name ... which tells me that they aren't smart enough to be in charge of all the money that they've been given.

Has anyone mentioned this to their investors?

"open source" (1)

penguin-collective (932038) | more than 8 years ago | (#14092958)

Note that media and intelligence (aka spooks) are the only areas where "open source" had an established meaning before the FSF started using the term: "open source" referred to the use of published, generally available sources in intelligence gathering. Other kinds of sources were "covert sources", "anonymous sources", and "confidential sources".

Private Property (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14093288)

Maybe they had to back down after someone pointed out that their privacy policy [osm.org] includes terms like "You may not reproduce, distribute, copy, publish, enter into any database, display, modify, create derivative works, transmit, or in any way exploit any part of this site". Hardly "open source" - just another orwellian lie to cover up their corporate agenda with "freedom" dressing.

I'm glad their PR firm managed to spin their surrender with "humor", but that doesn't mean their effort isn't a joke. When do we get to read Woodward's defense of his role inside the Plame outing as "better late then never reporting", rather than a feeble coverup of his sellout?

As They Organize... (1)

jeff_schiller (877821) | more than 8 years ago | (#14093578)

... so shall they become corrupt, just like the "old media". Basically they'll have a blaze of fame and then they'll become targets for other bloggers who claim they are now corrupt...

What they should have done... (1)

brownpau (639342) | more than 8 years ago | (#14093848)

They should have just appended a "2.0" to the name, which is what all the cool kids are doing these days.

cu8 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14093939)

Of user base f0r invited back agai8. If you do not

Objected before they announced! (1)

watermodem (714738) | more than 8 years ago | (#14095372)

Some of us had little birds tell us the name early and pointed out it would not fly. Perhaps that's why they were prepared to pull it so fast. The name change to Open.... appears to be a request by their Venture Capitalist and not really their choice. Many of the Pajamas principals hang out at: http://www.windsofchange.net/ [windsofchange.net] to discuss issues before blogging about them.
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