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Cyber Monday Doesn't Exist

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the whole-lotta-hype dept.

The Almighty Buck 247

xsspd2004 writes "Despite a huge amount of hype, the Monday after Thanksgiving is historically only the 12th-biggest online shopping day of the year. Do a Google search on "Cyber Monday," and you get as many as 779,000 results. Not a bad haul for a term that was created just a week and a half ago."

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Uh (2, Interesting)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137005)

If it was created only a week ago, I somehow doubt that google has spidered and indexed ~800k sites/pages containing such phrase, in that time period.

Google index (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137047)

Well, most of the hits on the google search are from msg board posts that actually say "Wanna cyber, Monday?"

Re:Uh (4, Informative)

myspys (204685) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137055)

looking at google now, it's up to 1.8m

look at the results though, they are from cnn, yahoo, cnet etc etc
all big sites, and as you can probably guess, google crawls these sites a few times every day

so google crawling and indexing 1.8m pages in a week isn't impossible at all

Re:Uh (4, Informative)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137056)

Well, we have the primary news sites, then we have the secondary news sites, then we have news blogs (like this one), then every fricking blog and message board, then all the spam-blogs...I googled it just a second ago and got 2,060,000 [google.com] hits. So if it can jump from 800k at the time of submission, to 2,060,000 hopefully not too much later, I think you may be underestimating how many people can talk abotu nothing, and how fast google can make that meaningless blather available to the world.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go google this post.

Re:Uh (4, Informative)

WebCrapper (667046) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137484)

It all depends on how you search...

Without quotation marks I get 5.2M results. With marks, I get 706k and the top 100 results (ok, so I scanned the top 100) are all news sites printing or reprinting stories.

I have to agree here. It appears that someone coined the term and something happened. I'd love to see the historical data off some of the larger E-tailers to see if the term increased sales. If so, I'm predicting that retailers will start naming different days in the year to try to get more sales.

BTW, in case no one knew this Black Friday [wikipedia.org] is historically a day when something bad happens.

Oh - and it looks like "Cyber Monday" is now on Wikipedia as well. Oddly enough, its pending deletion...

The term Cyber Monday is a fairly recent term which refers to the Monday immediately following Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving. Similar to Black Friday, one of the busiest shopping days of the year when retail stores often offer great deals, "Cyber Monday" has in recent years been a busy day for online retailers, and one in which online stores offer similarly low prices.
[edit]

Origin of term

The term "Cyber Monday" is a neologism invented by the National Retail Federation, and was never in common use within the ecommerce community. According to shop.org, Scott Silverman, the Executive Director of the company, coined the term during a meeting in August or September 2005 to describe an emerging trend first noticed on the Monday after Thanksgiving, 2004.

O rly? (5, Funny)

parasonic (699907) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137062)

I somehow doubt that google has spidered and indexed ~800k sites/pages containing such phrase, in that time period.

Somebody has a case of the cyber-Mondays!

Re:O rly? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137262)

I reckon you'd get your ass kicked saying that where I work.... (LOL)

Re:O rly? (1)

C++12 (934449) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137341)

Careful now...hey may quietly flip and burn your building down...

Behold! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137373)

..the power of SPAM

Link to 'o rly?' owls (1)

sczimme (603413) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137433)


I believe you are required to link to pictures of the 'O Rly?' owls. :-) Linky to Google cache [64.233.161.104] for the three people that have not yet seen the owls.

Yes, I know owls can't smile, etc. with their beaks, but the original picture cracks me up anyway. (I'm easily amused.) He just looks so joyous and enthusiastic, even though that's a gross misanthropomorphism.

Re:Link to 'o rly?' owls (1)

dogbowl (75870) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137587)

You know, I just don't get that joke.

Is it a Harry Potter reference (haven't seen or read any yet), or am I just getting too old these days??

Re:Uh (1)

aug24 (38229) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137105)

He's an idiot. A search for "cyber monday" [google.co.uk] which only finds the two words together, not co-incidentally in the same page, finds only about 1,020,000. Still, more than I would have expected.

J.

Re:Uh (1)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137184)

Wow, that's really interesting. Why does Google.uk [google.co.uk] have half as many results as Google.us [google.com] ? Either they are completely separate databases, or one updates the other on some schedule so the data stays linked. Iiiiiinteresting.
 

Properly, 110 results. Not 1 Million (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137145)

Parent is right. Furthermore, it looks more like 110 results to me. [google.com]

I trust the 1Million phrase combinations on google are mostly random if this is truly a new word, except when you search for CyberMonday as a single word. The resuls actually seem relevant in that search, but it's mostly forums.

Re:Uh (5, Informative)

Motherfucking Shit (636021) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137164)

If you're doubting the freshness of the term, try searching in Google Groups instead. A usenet search can often give you a better picture of how a term or phrase evolved through culture.

"Black Friday" [google.com] - 11,000 results dating back to at least 1993 [google.com] .

"Cyber Monday" [google.com] - 20 results, all but one were indeed posted within the past week. The other one is in Russian, and doesn't actually appear to contain the term.

So, if there was such a thing as "Cyber Monday" prior to this Thanksgiving, nobody seemed to know about it, and they sure as heck weren't discussing it.

Re:Uh (1, Funny)

gummih (932818) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137459)

In other news, Google searches for the term "Cyber Monday" just skyrocketet. Analysts are saying "we told you so, slashdot it and they will come"

Re:Uh (1)

GoodNicsTken (688415) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137284)

Ether I have supernatatural powers or it's a really slow news day.

Cyper Tuesday didn't exist until 20 seconds ago when I typed it into Google and I got back 3,390,000 hits.

Now if only I could use my powers to eliminate dupes from Slashdot. Nah, I'll stick with useing them to get girls.

Are you trying to say... (5, Funny)

lbrandy (923907) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137008)

Are you trying to say that our media is creating and over-hyping something that doesn't necessarily exist to make for better headlines? Noooooo... not our media....

Re:Are you trying to say... (1)

FudRucker (866063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137028)

probably a paid press release by walmart.com & amazon && a few other big online retail websites that stand to make big bucks off of this...

Re:Are you trying to say... (1)

SatanicPuppy (611928) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137075)

Offtopic, but who the hell would buy from Walmart.com? Doesn't seem like their business model would translate well to the internet. What's the point of buying cut-rate crap when all the savings get eaten up by the shipping fees?

Re:Are you trying to say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137231)

You know, I actually hate Walmart in a tangible way. But last week I had to buy a specific GPS unit for my company. Tried the big outdoor stores (online and in person) and got headache after headache. As a last resort, I tried to buy it online from Walmart, but for some reason Walmart's credit card screen wasn't encrypted so I canceled out. Called customer service and not only did I get a real, well spoken, knowledgeable person in under a minute, but they pulled up exactly what I had tried to buy, took my card information, and got my unit shipped to me in a few days at a price significantly cheaper than the outdoor store would have charged me for in store pickup 2+ weeks later! They may be evil, but Walmart surprised the pants off of me for customer service. :)
-Will

Re:Are you trying to say... (1)

poor_boi (548340) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137286)

The form itself doesn't need to be encrypted, just the action="" target behind it. But I guess Wamlart shouldn't expect people to know that. :(

Re:Are you trying to say... (5, Insightful)

MCraigW (110179) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137520)

Walmart's credit card screen wasn't encrypted so I canceled out. Called customer service and not only did I get a real, well spoken, knowledgeable person in under a minute, but they pulled up exactly what I had tried to buy, took my card information, and got my unit shipped

Yeah, that knowledgable person just entered your card information in the same form that you wouldn't use...

Re:Are you trying to say... (1)

bad jerkface (930612) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137271)

What's the point of buying cut-rate crap when all the savings get eaten up by the shipping fees?

With gas at about $3.00/gallon, I refuse to drive. Hell! I stopped driving when gas was $2.00/gallon. To answer your question, I have no problems letting FedEx pay for the gas.

Re:Are you trying to say... (1)

mordors9 (665662) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137113)

Oh come now, it isn't the media's fault. They were simply misled by (insert Democrats or Republicans depending on your politics).

greeting card strategem (4, Insightful)

know1 (854868) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137013)

this will be just like when they tried to add grandma and grandadas days to mothers and fathers days, just another excuse to try and drum up more profit. seems a bit pointless in this case though, they are both wrong and it's a growth business anyway. perhaps marketing were exceptionally bored. or maybe it was the work experience guy

1st post (-1, Offtopic)

oktokie (459163) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137014)

1st post!

Re:1st post (-1, Offtopic)

somersault (912633) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137021)

aren't you the clever one[/oo-err]

So... Google search is now indicative of sales? (1)

Wisgary (799898) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137020)

Huh?

Re:So... Google search is now indicative of sales? (1)

Noog (934684) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137042)

Didn't you get the memo?

No. (4, Insightful)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137066)

The Google search they performed has nothing to do with indicating the quantity of sales. They don't even claim that it does! They use the search more to show how quickly the new term "Cyber Monday" has spread.

If you had bothered to read the article, you would have noticed that the sales data is based on non-Google research.

It's twoo, it's twoo! (4, Funny)

glomph (2644) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137031)

On CyberMonday, my whole family stands in line for hours to buy stuff on the Internet! It gets to fisticuffs and hair-pulling when it comes to grabbing the mouse and clicking on the 'Complete Purchase' button!

non news (1, Funny)

phase_9 (909592) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137033)

google.com "non news" Results 1 - 10 of about 271,000 for "non news". (0.24 seconds)

What's Thanksgiving??? (-1, Offtopic)

Burb (620144) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137035)

Well yes, I do know what Thanksgiving is. But since I don't in North America, it's hardly relevant to me. There's a rise in fireworks related injuries in the UK at the start of November, but do you guys in the States have one? The Internet is in-ter-na-tion-al.

Re:What's Thanksgiving??? (1)

kmmatthews (779425) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137081)

The internet is international. Slashdot is not. I refer you to the FAQ: http://slashdot.org/faq/editorial.shtml#ed850 [slashdot.org] .

Re:What's Thanksgiving??? (-1, Offtopic)

Burb (620144) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137100)

Thanks for the clarification. But if you search google, you get international results unless you go to great pains to restrict searches geographically. So measuring anything that is US-centric using a world-wide search is pretty meaningless. And I would encourage all Americans to look outside their borders occasionally, just as Europeans and everyone else should do from time to time.

Re:What's Thanksgiving??? (1)

Malc (1751) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137121)

I guess they don't care for our money. Not that I'd pay anyway as there are better discussion threads on the Usenet for free.

Re:What's Thanksgiving??? (1)

Antifuse (651387) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137323)

Ummm... so what you're saying is - they should make it less US-centric to please you, a non-paying non-subscriber, even though you freely admit that you have no plans on paying to become a subscriber?

Re:What's Thanksgiving??? (1)

Malc (1751) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137400)

Yep. There's no way I'll ever pay for /. whilst it's a US-centric site. Otherwise I might consider it. I'm sure there are other people in the same position. Unfortunately /. also has other issues that leave me disinclined to pony up for it.

An alternative name... (5, Funny)

ysegalov (849765) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137050)

From the article:
They quickly discarded suggestions such as Black Monday (too much like Black Friday), Blue Monday (not very cheery), and Green Monday (too environmentalist), and settled on Cyber Monday.

I would call it - 'November's fools day'.

umm Cyber? Monday (2, Funny)

0110011001110101 (881374) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137057)

DOH! Does this mean I missed the biggest day of the year to get online and talk dirty to women who are actually men pretending to be women pretending to like men who are pretending not to like little boys?

Re:umm Cyber? Monday (1)

TPJ-Basin (763596) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137108)

Don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day today.

Re:umm Cyber? Monday (1)

LDoggg_ (659725) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137595)

You pay the bills for that? Does that cost money every time you're on, like for minutes on the phone?

Talk about over-hyping... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137061)

"windows vista" gives you about 15,600,000 results on google. And it's not even out yet!

Uh guys, It's was Deer Slaying Day.... (3, Funny)

FirstNoel (113932) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137064)

The first Monday after Thanksgiving has always been and will always be Deer Slaying Day. Hell, we have off for work and school, just so we can go slay some of those fierce creatures.

Sheesh...get it right.

It's kind of like Snake Whacking day...only with deer.

Watch out those antlers can be nasty!

Sean D.

Re:Uh guys, It's was Deer Slaying Day.... (1)

sczimme (603413) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137282)


The first Monday after Thanksgiving has always been and will always be Deer Slaying Day. Hell, we have off for work and school, just so we can go slay some of those fierce creatures.

Don't be fooled, Timmy: if given a chance that deer would kill you and everyone you care about.

It's kind of like Snake Whacking day...only with deer.

At least that would be a fair fight:

"Monday! MONDAY! MONDAY!! A knock-down, drag-out brawl between Homo Redneckien and a Deerus Pistofficus! It's antler vs whacking club in a fight to the death!"

(Yes, I know we need to control the deer population. No, I don't think all hunters are rednecks. This was a pre-emptive "sshhh".)

Re:Uh guys, It's was Deer Slaying Day.... (4, Funny)

evilviper (135110) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137369)

Watch out those antlers can be nasty!

My sister was once bitten by a moose.

Re:Uh guys, It's was Deer Slaying Day.... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137548)

No really! She was carving her intials on the moose when...

Re:Uh guys, It's was Deer Slaying Day.... (1, Funny)

FirstNoel (113932) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137567)


Mind you, moose bites can be nasty.

Re:Uh guys, It's was Deer Slaying Day.... (1)

(startx) (37027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137540)

Damn straight. Even the St. Louis Police Department [ksdk.com] got in on Deer Slaying Day when one wondered into the remains of old Busch Stadium.

Re:Uh guys, It's was Deer Slaying Day.... (1)

MCraigW (110179) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137566)

The first Monday after Thanksgiving has always been and will always be Deer Slaying Day. Hell, we have off for work and school, just so we can go slay some of those fierce creatures.

Gee, neither I, my wife, nor my children have that Monday (yesterday) off. Do I need to take up hunting to get that day off? I do like venison.

And you only get... (1)

lbmouse (473316) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137065)

...2,920 results for a Google search on "Cyber Monkey". Something just isn't right here.

Thanks slashdot, I just did a search for... (3, Funny)

Wisgary (799898) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137070)

"Cyber monday" and came up with this:
naked girl naked underage and nude boy nude boy teen pic nude boy... and tgp preteens very female nudist cyber monday real underground erotic ... lolitas gay art european porn clitoris story little lilamber sex polish ...
Relevant!

Re:Thanks slashdot, I just did a search for... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137339)

Relevant!

Of course your search result is relavant. If you can't spot the obvious connection between 'cyber monday' and 'european porn clitoris story' you should not be participating in this discussion.

Online shoppping (1, Funny)

HappyCakeOven (900863) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137082)

Personally, I stay home on cyber monday. The internet is too crowded and I hate waiting in the long lines at the checkout button.

Re:Online shoppping (1)

yellowbkpk (890493) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137106)

Last year I saw on the news about people getting trampled on Cyber Monday, so I just stayed home (Slashdot, Fark, etc.).

Oh my God! I totally missed Cyber Monday! (-1, Redundant)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137084)

Oh fuck! I just missed Cyber Monday!

Strange... (1, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137093)

When I clicked on the CNN Money poll asking if you were shopping on Cyber Monday, the "No" was running at 85%. No wonder there was no internet slowdown when I was browsing the Amazon site at work. Alas, I didn't buy anything. Bad, consumer, bad!

I'm sick of this. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137094)

And while we're beating down hype, "Good Friday" was only my ninth favourite friday of 2005.

Love Day (5, Funny)

farfisa69 (526335) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137098)

Marge: "Happy Love Day everyone!"
Lisa: "Come on Mom! The stores just invented this holiday because they wanted to make money!"
Homer: "Lisa don't you ruin another love day!"

For the same reason Black Friday *does* exist! (4, Insightful)

pla (258480) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137112)

Black Friday exists because physical shopping at a Brick-n'-Mortar has a number of very real constraints on when it can occur - You need the store open and staffed; You need to have free time (ie, not at work) to go; You need a reason to go; You need money to spend there.

Most people meeting the last condition have the Friday after Turkey-day off from work, thus meeting the second condition. Most retail sales staff do not, thus meeting the first condition. And our annual Materialism-and-oh-yeah-that-dead-Jew festival provides the final condition, a reason to go shopping in the first place.


Shopping on-line changes all that. The store always has its virtual doors open. They always have what you want, even if you don't know you want something. You can even find things on the cheap, if you look around carefully. It eliminates three of the four constraints necessary for a "holiday" flood of shoppers to occur on a particular day. And for the only one remaining, we still have at least another 20 or so "shopping" days up to which Amazon will guarantee delivery by December 25th. So no rush.


The entire premise of a mad rush to shop on one particular day comes from the same minds that can't understand why we "abandon" 90% of shopping carts at online stores, after they force us to add items to a cart to see its price.

Nothing to see here, move along - Captain Obvious has struck again.

Re:For the same reason Black Friday *does* exist! (2, Insightful)

kria (126207) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137215)

In addition, of course, most stores have huge sales on that Friday. It would be interesting to see the order that all this occured in, but I suspect that the sales just made a fairly popular shopping day into a very popular one.

Of course, even Black Friday is only the Fifth Largest Shopping Day [snopes.com] of the year. Apparently weekends leading up to Christmas are bigger, and I suspect that peaks in online shopping will occur based on when things can be shipped to get to people in time for Christmas. This year, with Christmas on a Sunday, I suspect that Christmas Eve will be an astounding shopping day.

90% abandoned carts??? omg!!! (1)

Urusai (865560) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137410)

That's a lot of restocking!

Re:For the same reason Black Friday *does* exist! (1, Informative)

Milican (58140) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137466)

"Materialism-and-oh-yeah-that-dead-Jew festival"

I understand where you are coming on the materialism issue. However, Christian or not, it would be nice if you showed a little more respect. Although I have my own beliefs, I respect the beliefs of others. Especially in a public forum. To not do so reflects poorly on you.

JOhn

Re:For the same reason Black Friday *does* exist! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137582)

Whoosh.

Re:For the same reason Black Friday *does* exist! (1)

Not_Wiggins (686627) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137472)

Nice summary.
However, you missed touching on your last (and perhaps most important to the "lack of shopping this year") point:

...You need money to spend there.

There was a massive spike in US bankruptcy claims the 4th quarter of this year. This was mostly spurred on by the changes in laws around bankruptcy making it more difficult to do. So large was this spike that many credit card companies profits for 4th quarter are projected to be wiped out completely. With so many people declaring, their spending will be curbed, to say the least.
Add to that that there hasn't been a rousing economic recovery, and I'd say we're looking at a fairly red Christmas season.

On the rest of your comment about the non-need to rush, I suspect marketers/businesses are pushing especially hard this year because they know it will be hard to get into the black.

It is easy to put out hype. It is hard to convince Joe Six-pack to spend his dollars at BestBuy instead of food when the money is scarce.

when... (1, Funny)

mangus_angus (873781) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137115)

will the cybermonday sales ad's be leaked on the net? I hope these people do a better job next year, I couldn't find a single one for amazon, tigerdirect, or newegg!!

Cyber* (1)

stalky14 (574130) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137117)

I think the prefix "cyber" needs to be taken out back and shot.
It's been run into the ground, through to the other side of
the Earth and then back through again.

It's not clever anymore, media! Jeez...

Re:Cyber* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137158)

don't you mean BIZARRO shot?

Re:Cyber* (1)

PezJunkie42 (837065) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137493)

Do you prefer the lowercase 'e' prefix? (Ooh, eMonday!) Although I suppose that one's a bit outdated as well. Maybe they can paint it white and throw an 'i' in front of it. That's pretty trendy these days. At least they didn't mention the Information Superhighway.

CyberDay! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137124)

Well I declare tomorrow Cyber Wednesday as I'll be doing my grocery shopping online ... maybe I should run a /. poll to see who else will be doing theirs - and wow! a new national day is born!

Every day is cyber -----day (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137151)

What good is a work day without the internet? People would be quitting their jobs in droves.

Can we get rid of real monday too? (1, Funny)

Tachikoma (878191) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137152)

I mean seriously...no one needs REAL monday either

Re:Can we get rid of real monday too? (1)

Haydn Fenton (752330) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137423)

Yeah, mondays are a terrible way to spend 1/7th of your life.

Talliwhacker Tuesday! (1, Funny)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137177)

Today has been declared Talliwhacker Tuesday! Everyone who is capable of obtaining and maintaining an erection shall stroke it to the point of ejaculation.

Alas, I cannot participate, as I suffer from severe impotency.

Re:Talliwhacker Tuesday! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137246)

In the average /.'ers world, EVERYDAY is Talliwhacker Tuesday.

Re:Talliwhacker Tuesday! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137256)

You can buy something for that online, just wait for the next Cyber-Monday...

12th biggest day? 12th?!?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137188)

When it comes down to TWELVTH biggest day, shouldn't it be a non-event?? I can see hyping #1, second biggest and maybe even 3rd, but 12th? Who cares!

Re:12th biggest day? 12th?!?! (1)

'nother poster (700681) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137359)

Well, they hype Black Friday to death, and it is usually the third or fourth biggest sales day of the year by dollar value. Historically, the Saturday before Christmas is the largest sales day with the Sunday before, and the second Saturday before being larger than Black Friday.

way to... (0)

drewxhawaii (922388) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137568)

...MISS THE WHOLE POINT.

Oh, just wait... (2, Insightful)

greg_barton (5551) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137202)

A few more years of this hype and it may well exist. Just wait.

The interesting question is, "Why the hype?" Or, more specifically, "Why do some people want it to exist?"

A related question is, "How can the entire media be manipulated to hype something that doesn't really exist?" Sounds *cough*WMD*cough* familiar, doesn't it?

Re:Oh, just wait... (1)

Malpheus (934478) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137330)

One must wonder, though, who is really manipulating who? Is it the media pulling the strings attached to businesses and consumers for their own ends? Or perhaps it is the businesses taking advantage of the media and using it to get consumers to spend more? Then again, it could be that consumers are manipulating everyone to get what they want at a price that is Cheap Bastard compliant. Do we bring this hype on ourselves, and what does it have to do with Microsoft's plot to rule the world? The world may never know.

I celebrated Cyber-monday (1)

digitalderbs (718388) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137219)

I did my share of cyber-ing [wikipedia.org] .

Lemmings to the Internet (2, Insightful)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137247)

Of course Cyber Monday doesn't exist, by way of the fact that you can shop at most e-tailers at any time, any day, and with advances in shipping, you can shop and get things delivered to you right up to Christmas day in most cases.

Of course some marketing person thought this up -- they thought up New Coke didn't they?

From Business Week: That's not to suggest that the Cyber Monday boost is a total fabrication. The fact is, people do most of their online shopping at work -- 58% of them, according to comScore Networks. They often get started in earnest on Mondays, when they return from a frustrating weekend at the mall to their broadband connections at work.

The fact is, many of us are smart enough not to buy into the hype of Black Friday, let alone Cyber Monday. I can shop online any time, from work, from home. It's easier to do from work because there's little chance of someone discovering what you're buying. Mind you, you have to be careful and actually work occasionally...

realtime retail monitoring at akamai. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137261)

I dug this up on Akamai's website.

http://www.akamai.com/en/html/industry/nui/retail/ [akamai.com]

779,000 results? more like 300. (2, Insightful)

Sam H (3979) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137346)

Doing a simple Google search [google.com] I get "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 283 already displayed." although more than 1,000,000 pages were indexed. (YMMV, all Google frontends don't yield the same results, especially with newly coined terms). This simply means that hundreds of useless blogs or news sites use the phrase on hundreds of their pages, and that those pages are accessible through hundreds of different URLs. Typical Google pollution.

Like the "nine months after" myths... (2, Interesting)

dpbsmith (263124) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137349)

Sounds a lot like the "baby train" and "birthrate peak nine months after the 1965 Northeast US blackout" myths. Only less entertaining.

Someone said, "Gee, I betcha there's a lot of online shopping when people get back to work and their high-speed internet connections" and the plausible and amusing speculation became a legend.

I actually was skeptical about this, because most e-commerce sites are quite usable even at dialup speeds, and, conversely, DSL and cable are far from rare.

It's not like the days when people had 28Kbps modems at home and T1s at work.

It would be very interesting if someone actually managed to track the "Cyber Monday" meme to its source. It might be possible, since it originated recently and probably spread mostly via the Internet.

Myth URL (1)

dpbsmith (263124) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137374)

Hmmm, not sure why my URL showed up properly when I previewed but not when I posted. Let me try again. It was

http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/babtrain.htm [snopes.com]

i.e. here [snopes.com]

Wait.. it was a SHOPPING day? (1)

AnswerIs42 (622520) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137384)

Um.. er... hmm... To all the people I was cybering with yesterday... sorry about that. I had missread the "Cyber" part..

Hmm... it's gonna make the meeting with HR awkard this afternoon..

Not to be confused with "cyber tuesday" (1, Funny)

Zane Edwards (562074) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137419)

Which only gets 2,100 hits in google (with quotes).

Black Friday was out Cyber Monday (stupid name!) (1)

Pontiac (135778) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137420)

What a load of crap..

By Monday all the good deals are GONE!!!!

Most stores have the same sales online on Friday that they do in the stores and they start at midnight.. Just stay up after Thanksgiving (if you can, stupid Turkey). Hit Ben's Bargins & Fat Wallet then go shopping at midnight EST.

We scored everything we wanted and never set foot in the shopping nightmare at the mall.

Odd title--Cyber Monday? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14137447)

I have been celebrating "cyber Monday" each Monday for the past 10 years or so but it has nothing to do with shopping. It's more of an IRC thing.

hype (1)

SmellTheCoffee (808375) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137481)

Yet another termed coined to increase sales. How is this not a hype? The corporations and self-appointed analysts think people have not bought enough (or we've not earned enough) so we should go ahead and create a hype so that hype-deprived consumers will jump on and start clicking wildly. Honestly I think it just propagates the culture of over-consumption and waste.

The prefix "cyber" negates the requirement of naming a day there...it can be any day for that matter. If I want to buy something, it is "cyber that-day" for me.

Cyber Monday... the day for (1)

hypergreatthing (254983) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137491)

Breaking out your old AOL account and going into those looking for love teenager chatrooms. Or...
Breaking out the latest posts from blood ninja and laughing it up.

i had never heard of it... (1)

drewxhawaii (922388) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137530)

...until a few days ago.

but i did manage to get a Dell 2005FPW Ultrasharp Widescreen 20" LCD for $334

whether or not Dell endorses cyber-monday is debatable

I'm such a tool of the "man" (1)

Hoi Polloi (522990) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137531)

I just bought about $2000 of computer parts Monday. Now I read this. I'm a pawn!

This has been my experience (1)

theblueprint (749157) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137577)

I work as production manager for a toy company. I am responsible for product being in the correct location to ship, so I see every order.

Our sales Friday were the best ever for our "direct" business. Yesterday's orders (in front of me) are standard for the season, but nothing like "Black Friday".

Where is internet shopping this season? (1)

artemis67 (93453) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137599)

Seriously.

I stood in line for an hour in the freezing cold on Thursday night, for the chance to save $30 on a Bluetooth headset at CompUSA (store opened at midnight). Unfortunately, there were 500 people in line ahead of me (and another 700 behind me), so ALL the good stuff was gone by the time I got into the store. I left empty-handed. I was going to get up early on Friday morning to stand in line, but after that experience, no way.

I have to wonder why internet retailers aren't trying to put the kibosh on B&M outlets on Black Friday. The whole "Cyber Monday" thing seemed far-fetched to me... many people will have already blown their wad of cash over the weekend.

If I were a cyber retailer, I'd have a blowout sale from 8 PM to midnight on Thanksgiving Day, and get the jump on Black Friday. Nobody WANTS to get up at 4 AM and spend an hour or two in line outside in the cold.

I didn't shop on Cyber Monday From Work... (1)

B11 (894359) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137616)

Cuts into all my other non-productive web surfing.

What?! (1)

Tashmire (926583) | more than 8 years ago | (#14137619)

Your gonna tell me Cyber Monday doesn't exist. First Santa, then the WWF, then this. Why do I even bother trying to Believe in something.
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