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Science Fiction Stories for Teenage Girls?

Cliff posted more than 8 years ago | from the a-subset-for-the-fairer-sex dept.

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Sooner Boomer asks: "Not having met 'Mrs. Boomer' yet, I'm buying Christmas gifts for my nieces and nephews. Whether genetics or just good luck, almost all of the young 'uns are girls. I've been slowly introducing them to the classics of science fiction: Heinlein ('Podkayne of Mars', _'Starship Troopers', etc.), Asimov short stories, Ann McAffrey (the Dragonrider books), Alan Dean Foster (the Flynx books and others), Douglas Adams and Terry Prachett, some Neil Gaiman (Stardust, Good Omens), as well as the mandatory Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. This is just a partial list, but what would Slashdot consider to be good (or even essential) science fiction for teen and pre-teen girls?"

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Nicholas Fisk (3, Informative)

Joel Rowbottom (89350) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142828)

Anything by Nicholas Fisk is good for that age bracket, but especially 'Highway Home' and 'Trillions'. Very accessible sci-fi for kids, although if you've already educated them in Pratchett and Heinlein you're probably way ahead of this.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (5, Informative)

B'Trey (111263) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143040)

You asked about Sci-Fi but I'm also throwing in a few fantasy recommendations:

  • A Wrinkle in Time
Madeleine L'Engle

Any of a few score books by Andre Norton.

Anything by Patricia A McKillip, but particularly the "Riddlemaster of Hed" series.

Earthsea series by Ursula K LeGuin

  • Ender's Game
by Orson Scott Card. The rest of the series is good as well (as is pretty much anything by Card) but may not appeal as much to your target audience.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (2, Informative)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143258)

I'd 2nd, 4rd, and 4th "A Wrinkle in Time", as well as the sequals that come after it.

There's also another series I thought was wonderful, but I can't remember the exact titles. I think they were:
- The White Mountains
- The City of Gold and Lead
- The Pool of Fire.

It's about Earth after aliens have taken over and people are "capped" at 13 or so, and immediately start behaving differently. (Capping includes getting a wire-mesh gadget put over their skull.)

If they're young enough, or don't mind something for a younger audience, all 14 of the Oz books by L. Frank Baum are a world of fun. The series was continued by other authors when Baum died.

There's also the works of Edgar Rice Burroughs, like John Carter of Mars, Tarzan, Carson of Venus, and the Pellucidar books.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (1)

meara (236388) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143382)

I'd second the Tripod trilogy by John Christopher (White Mountains, City of Gold and Lead and Pool of Fire).

Great stuff.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (1)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143443)

Yes-- that's it! John Christopher. I think that trilogy is just as good as many sci-fi and fantasy classics for younger audiences, but it just isn't that well known.

And another one is the original "The Neverending Story" by Michael Ende.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145525)

He also wrote a prequel to the trilogy, again its worth a read.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (1)

6hill (535468) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145081)

Ooh, thanks for reminding me about the Tripod trilogy -- I read it when I was a kid and loved it. Ought to re-read it ASAP!

Christopher (2, Informative)

mrak and swepe (799450) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145282)

There is also a prequel called "When the Tripods Came" (I think).

Other essential John Christopher:

* Empty World
* Guardians

Anyone who enjoys those should also like:

* The Chrysalids (John Wyndham)
* Futuretrack 5 (Robert Westall)

Re:Nicholas Fisk (2, Insightful)

Somegeek (624100) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144029)

Here's a second vote for the Riddlemaster of Hed series. Can't believe it's not more well known.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (2, Interesting)

Seumas (6865) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144225)

However, if their family is religious, you probably want to avoid a Wrinkle In Time. The religious kooks go crazy over that like they do Harry Potter.

Re:Nicholas Fisk (1)

Chasuk (62477) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145105)

I've never read Frisk, I'll have to check him out. You say that he is appropriate for "that age bracket," when this depends on what "that age bracket" means. "Teens" is a a very broad range, and in the pre-teen group you can have precocious readers.

I dislike Foster, so I wouldn't recommend him to anyone. Likewise Piers Anthony, unless you want them to be scraping the bottom of the barrel, fiction-wise. Children don't have to read tripe just because their tastes haven't (theoretically) matured. Think of Garth Nix or Philip Pullman. Their books are more adult than many books written for ostensibly older readers.

Lucy Boston is wonderful, if a bit hard to find. John Christopher. John Bellairs. Susan Cooper. Strictly speaking, you would have to stretch "Science Fiction" to "Speculative Fiction" to include some of those authors, but it is well worth the stretch.

This is Slashdot - (3, Funny)

woobieman29 (593880) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142832)

What the hell do we know about girls??

Re:This is Slashdot - (5, Funny)

Joe the Lesser (533425) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142993)

I know they always seem to be in another castle.

Re:This is Slashdot - (1)

n0d3 (708403) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143950)

I agree, we really don't know much about girls. Takes a lifetime to figure out women, so girls ... forget it.

However I have noticed that there's a lot of female firefly fans. Yes. Women dig firefly, which is good.

So my advice, Firefly. After that, Serenity of course. : )

Gotta keep on flyin'

Re:This is Slashdot - (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144633)

In general - not much.

But I sure know a hell of a lot about your mom. :P

Getting Out Alive by Regina Paul (2, Informative)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142839) []

Regina is a relatively new science fiction writer- this is her first novel, released just this year, self-published through Lulu press. It was originally written as a romance- and thus has a good deal of appeal for the female sex. But I found it equally interesting as science fiction. It's likely to end up the first book of a series; and thus would give you additional purchases in the future. But best of all, it's available cheap ($5.00) as a PDF e-book; which would allow you to give it as a present to people on your list that you won't neccessarily be seeing for Christmas.

Mercedes Lackey and Lois McMaster Bujold (3, Interesting)

danaris (525051) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142863)

Lackey [] , who wrote the Heralds of Valdemar series, is about as perfect as you can get for a teenage girl--for one thing, three of the first books, Arrows of the Queen, Arrow's Flight, and Arrow's Fall have a teenage girl as the main character. All of them are fun to read, and most of them are at least pretty good books. Light fantasy.

Bujold [] is the author of the Miles Vorkosigan series, which has something of everything, as well as the Chalion series and a few other books. They're also excellent. The former are usually termed "space opera" (I'd call them "light SF"), and the latter are rather deep fantasy.

Dan Aris

Heralds of Valdemar (1)

Orrin Bloquy (898571) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142883)

I thought his name was not to be spoken.

Re:Heralds of Valdemar (1)

TheWanderingHermit (513872) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143367)

Someone's been reading too much about Hogwarts.

On the same line, when I went to see the latest HP movie, I saw a bumbersticker, "Republicans for Voldemort." I'm sure you can turn it into a partisan attack if you feel the need, but I would have found it just as funny if it were "Democrats for Voldemort."

Re:Heralds of Valdemar (-1, Flamebait)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143484)

It's funnier the first way, due to the stereotype of Republicans fitting the stereotype of the Malfoys. Both are rich, pretentious, arrogant, and will do anything for profit.

Re:Heralds of Valdemar (0, Redundant)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144109)

Why was the parent modded off topic? The discussion was about Harry Potter. The Grandparent mentioned the bumper sticker- I was trying to bring it back on topic by mentioning the Malfoys and why the bumper sticker was accurate.

Re:Mercedes Lackey and Lois McMaster Bujold (1)

Calmiche (531074) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143835)

Err. You might want to watch the Mercedes Lackey titles though, depending on the girls age. The Arrow series is really good, but some of the later books she has written are definatly not for children. Most of them have fairly strong sexual themes.

For fantasy, you might try Elizabeth Moon's The Deed of Paksenarrion. It's a really good novel with a teenage female main character. In fact, it's an omnibum of three novels, (Over 1000 pages) and can be picked up cheap on

I'm coming up blank on Sci-Fi, but you could try the Honor Harrington Series, or The Council Wars, both by David Weber.

Re:Mercedes Lackey and Lois McMaster Bujold (1)

bluephone (200451) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145529)

Oh wow. Another Bujold fan. My fave scifi author is Larry Niven, but man, Lois McMaster Bujold is a very close second. "borders of Infinity" was on sale for $1.99 about 6-7 years ago in a Barnes and Noble, and so I picked it up. If it sucked, I was only out 2 bucks, which is less than a Starbucks in the B&N stores. I was instantly hooked. I bought every other book published at that time, and read them all in 9 days. IIRC that was 13 or so books. I got NO work done that week. I haven't touched "The Spirit Ring" and her other fantasty stuff, as Fantasy isn't my bag, but her scifi is incredible. The ending of "The Warrior's Apprentice" literally brough ttears to my eyes. I can't think of too many books that manage that.

Now, I'm a late 20's male, but it's good to know this author appeals to the teen girls. I'll bring some with me when I hang out with the high school cheerleaders. ;)

pics or stfu (0, Troll) troll (593289) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142894)

"for teen and pre-teen girls?"
pics or stfu []

Foundation (4, Informative)

OldManAndTheC++ (723450) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142901)

It's about makeup, right? :)

Seriously though, don't miss Le Guin's "Earthsea" books, and the old Andre Norton stuff - the "Witch World" stories are good.

Re:Foundation (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143050)

I'd second the Earthsea series. LeGuin is a wonderful writer.

David Webber (3, Insightful)

nhstar (452291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142905)

I'd have to recommend the Honor Harrington Series. It's easy enough reading to be entertaining, and the story's compelling enough to bring you back for more. There's a good number of books in the series (On Basilisk Station being the first) and the main character through all but the latest is a very strong female lead.

The books tend to be a little formulaic, but still very enjoyable.

Re:David Webber (1)

Mycroft_514 (701676) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142961)

Second this choice, but I would dump the CS Lewis stuff as well.

Re:David Webber (1)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143810)

Also, don't forget that, due to the Baen Free Library and the CD's with extremely liberal licensing, the Honor Harrington books can be had for $0. As well as a ton of other books, including some that should appeal to girls.

Check out Piers Anthony (5, Informative)

thepropain (851312) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142908)

A girl I was infatuated with got me hooked on Piers Anthony, specifically his Adept series. Good blend of sci-fi and "girly stuff" (unicorns, chivalry, etc.).

Re:Check out Piers Anthony (1)

Idealius (688975) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142958)

The PUNS, though.

They drive me insane, I just can't read Pier's work.

Re:Check out Piers Anthony (1)

Gaewyn L Knight (16566) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143251)

Puns are mostly contained in the Xanth series...

Which... Even with the puns is a fairly good series. And best of all... you can read until you want to stop :}

He's at almost 30 books in the series. Another hint is... The earlier the book the less the puns... "A Spell for Chameleon" has very few compared to "The Color of Her Panties" and such...

Re:Check out Piers Anthony (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144624)

A girl I was infatuated with got me hooked on Piers Anthony, specifically his Adept series. Good blend of sci-fi and "girly stuff" (unicorns, chivalry, etc.).

Now that she's had you locked up for stalking, you must have plenty of time to read, huh? ;)

Am I the only one who has had the thought "I wish I could get life in prison so I could finally have the time to read all the books I ever wanted"?

Re:Check out Piers Anthony (1)

swillden (191260) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144900)

Don't just grab anything written by Anthony, though. The Adept series is both good and fairly tame. The Xanth books are as dirty as your imagination (heavy on very vague innuendo). Anthony has some other stuff, though, that is absolutely X-rated. The title of "Pornucopia" says it all, and his "Bio of a Space Tyrant" series is very adult. I've also read some other books and short stories he wrote whose titles I don't recall, but they're probably not what you want to give to a pre-teen girl.

Recommendations (5, Insightful)

meara (236388) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142945)

Speaking as a former teenage girl...

The Meri by Maya Bohnhoff

Mary Stewart's Merlin Trilogy (start with The Crystal Cave)

Mercedes Lackey's Heralds of Valdemar series (start with Magic's Pawn or Arrows of the Queen)

David Eddings's Belgariad and Mallorean (start with Pawn of Prophecy)

Mary Herbert's Dark Horse trilogy (start with Dark Horse)

Trudi Canavan's Black Magician Trilogy (start with Magician's Guild)

Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality Series (start with On a Pale Horse)

Piers Anthony's Apprentice Adept Series (start with Split Infinity)

Re:Recommendations (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14143289)

Speaking as a former teenage girl...

not strictly scifi (1)

HTL2001 (836298) | more than 8 years ago | (#14142946)

But Marianne Curley writes some great fantasy books, all in the YA category

I started a wikipedia project on a series she wrote, logy []
Interestingly, the stub fell into the "science fiction book stub" section (admittedly, there is no fantasy section for book stubs)

forgot to add (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14143089)

forgot to add, most fans seem to be female, and in the teenage range. A fansite (which I will NOT link, but can be found on google easily) had a poll and it is at 9-2 girls favor right now (small community)

AC = no karma whoring

Garth Nix - Sabriel (1)

danaris (525051) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143015)

Oh, yeah, one I forgot: Garth Nix [] 's Sabriel series. It's really, really good. Main characters are 2 teenage girls (well, one grows up, then the other one's the main character). High and deep fantasy.

Dan Aris

Re:Garth Nix - Sabriel (1)

Darius Jedburgh (920018) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143255)

I read Sabriel. I really don't get what's supposed to be all that good about it. I'm sure the entire book was simply a contrivance to set up a scene in a girl's school where a bunch of people with machine guns mow down hordes of attacking zombies. (They're not called 'zombies' of course, that would give the game away, but a zombie by any other name would smell the same.) That was an entertaining scene, but really not good enough to justify reading an entire book. I suggest reading something a bit more literary instead, the Earthsea books for example.

Re:Garth Nix - Sabriel (1)

danaris (525051) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143754)

Well, if you'd read the 2 sequels, you'd see that there's a LOT more to it...Nix has created a very deep world, with a lot of backstory and a fascinating system of magic and Death. You'd probably see pretty much the same thing if you read Sabriel itself with an open mind, 'cause the end scene with the Ancelstierre army trying to hold back the Dead with the guns is in no way the goal of the book. There is, of course, a possibility that it was somewhat the inspiration for it, but I've had weirder inspirations for stories.

It's also possible that it's simply not your type of book.

Dan Aris

Re:Garth Nix - Sabriel (1)

slthytove (771782) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144144)

Also by Garth Nix: Shade's Children and the Ragwitch. Both very good reads - my sister got me into Nix when she was a teenager, and both her and I very much enjoyed reading them.

Shade's Children is one of my favorites.

Science Fiction Stories for Teenage Girls? (2, Funny)

Anne_Nonymous (313852) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143049)

>> Science Fiction Stories for Teenage Girls?

If it's your first time, you can't get pregnant.

Harry Potter? (1)

delirium_9 (26055) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143055)

Seeing how you mentioned Stardust, Good Omens and a bunch of other fantasy stuff I take it you don't mean science fiction but rather books that geeks/nerds like. I'm not saying that individually these books aren't interesting but as a whole it leaves a very stunted impression of what fiction is about.

So give them some Harry Potter. They can read some pretty good fantasy and there won't be any social stigma attached to it.

The problem with books in general for young people is that you have to know what things their parents will be comfortable with. Will they like the mocking of angels and devils in Good Omens? Would they be comfortable with the rape scenes in the Fionavar Tapestry (a great fantasy series)? The rather archaic gender roles in Heinlen and Asimov, and really most of the other classics?

If you leave the ghetto of Sci-fi\fantasy you end up generally with books that have possibly objectionable content or are so devoid of anything that reading them becomes work.

So give 'em some Harry, or Dave Eddings or whoever else (Billy Collins writes some pretty accessible poetry), just check it with the parents so that they don't come back to you later with some complaints.

I'd suggest a book gift card, but I really hate gift cards.

Asimov, gender-archaic? (1)

hummassa (157160) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143400)

AFAIK most of the Big-Extended-Foundation-Saga heroes are girls. Including the girl-robot-Hari-Seldon-wife (R. Dors Venabili)

Re:Asimov, gender-archaic? (2, Funny)

delirium_9 (26055) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143797)

Brief summary of the Foundation series:

Foundation - various dudes in space.
Foundation and Empire - dude and his girlfriend unknowingly take the enemy of the foundation on a trip in space
Second Foundation - Young girl travels in space looking for the second foundation
Foundation's Edge - Two dudes try to find Earth. They pick up some chicks on the way.
Foundation and Earth - The dudes find Earth as well as a robot.
Prelude to Foundation - A dude meets a chick and a kid and has adventures on Trantor
Forward the Foundation - The last days of the dude and the old galactic empire.

I haven't read any ones after this, are there really more? and only the first three could hope to be called "classic" but if you look at the 7 books that were written by Asimov there were exactly 3 useful women characters: Arkady (the heroine of Second Foundation), the Gaian chick from Foundation's Edge and Foundation and Earth (who was a sidekick to the two male leads) and Dors who again was a sidekick to Hari, and was a robot to boot. Dors' whole thing was that she was fierce. 20,000 years in the future it is still notable, in a freakish way, that a woman is fierce?!

Maybe you really think that the female characters in the Foundation series were given appropriate roles and abilities. If so, contrast the roles and abilities of women in the Foundation series and Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy.

No, you got it all wrong. (1)

hummassa (157160) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145526)

It's all the Foundation series (unless it doesn't fit).
Since Susan Calvin until the Second Foundation.
Susan Calvin -- amongst other stuff, creates mentalic-powers robot for the first time (Liar!) and destroys it.
Jessie Baley was a fundamentalist.
The Solarian woman (Gladia Delmarre) that was a murder suspect. Her Nemesis, Vasilia Aliena, super-roboticist, created R. Giskard Reventlov.
Valona (the girl that saves the Earthman's ass) in the Currents of Space.
You mentioned Arkady Darrell and R. Dors Venabili, but you forgot Raych's wife (Manella -- saved Hari Seldon's ass, too), Raych's daughter (Wanda, important psychohistorian and had telepathic powers like Arcadia)
All those woman had important, in-the-20th-century-male-only jobs (except for Gladia, who was a plastic artist, and Valona, who was an agro-worker). And if they (except for R. Dors) were not "fierce", it was because the Old Doctor was always a romantic.

some suggestions (3, Informative)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143077)

Perhaps not all of the Dragonrider books are going to be good, but certainly the Harper Hall trilogy, about Menolly, would be better, I think. Lessa is, well, annoying, really, though admirable. Nerilka's Story and Moreta's Ride are good stories, too. And lots of other McCaffrey stories are good. The Pegasus books, the Rowan books are all good stuff. I'd avoid the most recent Pern books, but that's just me. Up to around Dolphins of Pern is a good collection, though.

The Telzey books by Schmitz (Schmidt?) would likely be good. The classic Witches of Karres has been reprinted, I think, and I believe there's also a sequel (written by another author, of course), though I could be wrong about that.

I see someone else has already suggested Mercedes Lackey's Arrows of the Queen books. Those are great, and much easier for a younger person to get through than the other Valdemar novels.

You might also look at some stuff by Patricia Wrede, the Enchanted Forest books are great fun, and not just for younger folks, either. Talking to Dragons is my favourite of the series.

Books by Tamora Pierce would be really good stuff. Multiple series by her - lots of good stuff.

If you want more of the science fiction, then space opera is always easier for younger kids to get into.

Scott Westerfeld is a newish author who has written some stuff that may work well. I especially liked Peeps.

If you're into Heinlein, then I can always suggest the Moon is a Harsh Mistress. That'll always get them thinking, though ya gotta be careful - many people mistake this story as an endorsement of Libertarianism. Still - ya gotta love Professor de la Paz's philosophy, Rational Anarchy. And Manny is a funny guy. Certainly reading the novel Starship Troopers will give a whole new perspective on things that the movie 'based on' the bok didn't. :)

The Honor Harrington novels by David Weber could certainly be appreciated by younger folks, as long as they're prepared to wade through all the 'technical' details. It's the same way you have to read Tom Clancy. Just let your eyes glaze over until you get to the story, which is always good stuff. I wish these two had editors with balls of steel and an eagerness to snip, but oh well - it's generally not wise to mess with success, and they are both very successful, indeed.

There's always the Xanth novels by Piers Anthony (Xanthony), though that series has gone on _waaaay_ too long.

There's the Myth Adventures books by Robert Aspirin, at least the first several; another series that's long since outlived its entertainment value.

The Belgariad/Mallorean books by David Eddings is good high fantasy, and has fantastic characters.

Okay, this is harder to do off the top of my head than I would've thought.

The various "Ship Who Sang" series - written by Anne McCaffrey and others.

Elizabeth Moon has some good military-oriented space opera. Much like Weber, but without the extraneous technical details.

Space Angel by John Maddox Roberts
Healer by F. Paul Wilson
Eridahn by Robert F. Young


I'm sure I'll think of several dozen other things on the way home from work. Maybe I'll post more later. Always a favourite topic.

Re:some suggestions (3, Informative)

BDZ (632292) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143591)

Thought I'd tack my own recommendations onto this post as I whole heartedly agree with the list the poster gave.

First, I'd like to say that I highly, highly recommend a series by Philip Pullman "His Dark Materials" the first book of which is "The Golden Compass". It's definitely more fantasy than SF, but since you mentioned Tolkien and such I thought it would be a good recommendation. Though this series is not at all Tolkienesque aside from the fact that I found the process of reading this series in my 20's just as magical as I did reading The Lord of the Rings many years earlier. Also, the protaganist is a girl who is (though I hate to use the word) plucky to say the least and grew up in an alternate universe Oxford University. It has everything from wonder, magic and friendship to armored bears. Can't be beat. Waiting impatiently for my own nieces to get a bit older so I can get them the series. Here's the wikipedia entry on the series: The Golden Compass [] .

Aside from that I strongly agree with previous recommendations such as Mercedes Lackey. Many of her books are great for teenagers in general I believe...and I say that as an old member of her fan club back in the days before the web (should I be embarrassed by that?). Also, Elizabeth Moon is a great writer of both SF and Fantasy. Hey, what other writer do you know who manages to mix horses with SF military?

David Eddings is another writer of fantasy I'd agree with as a strong recommendation. He has both strong male and female characters. I originally read the Belgariad when I was in the early years of that prison they called high school and loved it.

Further on fantasy I'd say The Song of Ice and Fire series by George R. R. Martin (first book is "A Game of Thrones") is something that shouldn't be missed. Though your nieces may hate you when they get to the newest book (#4) and have to wait for the next one to come out. The series is well written, well envisioned, probably more than a dozen strong plot lines and very well developed character. Female and male.

Well that and all the other good recommendations already posted should give you a great help when you do your holiday shopping (and if you haven't read some of these yourself you might want to grab an extra copy here and there...or tell your nieces you want to borrow them).



Re:some suggestions (1)

Bob_Robertson (454888) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143725)

I'll second (&etc) the recommendation for Anne McCaffrey, pretty much everything I've read by her will work. Her writing is certainly G or PG rated, and is (obviously) written from the female point of view.

Re:some suggestions (1)

tqft (619476) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144698)

Katharine Kerr Deverry Series

Young Wizards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14143125)

Okay, it's fantasy, not science fiction, but Diane Duane's "Young Wizards" series is excellent. It starts with "So you want to be a wizard".

More Heinlein (4, Informative)

Hakubi_Washu (594267) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143137)

Under all circumstances, more Heinlein: You can add the other "juveniles" first, the gradually increase the amount of "adult situations" over the years. Heinlein gives a few excellent examples of societies built upon different social systems and moral ideas (My own views were heavily influenced by his depictions of relationships in "Time enough for love", which I read first at the age of 13, I think. Don't if you don't want them to end up like Lapis & Lazuli, personality-wise, though :-P )

If you want you can try leaving a few copies of John Norman's Gor around when they're teenaged, they helped me discover and understand my BDSM side (Bugger if they don't have any or aren't bright enough to differentiate fantasy from reality!). This advice is not for the faint of heart, though (Still, I'm thankful for my father having these on his library board, where I was free to read since aged about 12).

Later again I can recommend the RGB-Mars series by Kim Stanley Robinson, which offers a few great examples of scientific thinking along with idealism vs. realism, but the reading is quite dry, so wait till they're 16 or so.

From the top of my head I can also think of these (Don't consider them "recommended", though. They were simply the ones I read...), that I liked quite well then (but then, I am male, though I doubt reading preferences are much more than behavior adopted from the surrounding society): The "Riverworld" series by Philip Jose Farmer, "The ragged astronauts" series ("Wooden spaceships" & "The Fugitive Worlds" are the other two, I believe) by Bob Shaw, the "Omega 2" books by Bo Anders (were particularly intersting when I was younger still (8,9?), so you might want to check them out. The author is german, so they might be difficult to find), "Hellstroms Hive" by Frank Herbert (A lot easier to comprehend than "Dune", but grizzly nonetheless) and finally "House of stairs" by William Sleator (Rather easy to read as well, certainly a "juvenile")

William Sleator (5, Interesting)

ParticleGirl (197721) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143189)

When I was a preteen girl I loved books by William Sleator [] . It was only years later that I realized how technologically/scientifically advanced they were-- at the time I just loved the stories. My favorites were The Boy Who Reversed Himself [] (which to this day shapes how I think about 4+ dimensional geometry) and House of Stairs [] (which I forgot about completely until I was in Psych 101 and then had to track it down and reread it), though they were all good; great plots and characters and cool SciFi. I can't vouch for anything written after about 1990.

Xenogenesis - Octavia E. Butler (1)

sparkie (60749) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143219)

Xenogenesis by Octavia E. Butler is a compilation of 3 of her books Dawn, Adulthood Rites, and Imago. They are in my opinion some of the best science fiction I have ever read.

Madeline L'Engle (1)

Gaewyn L Knight (16566) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143230)

Wrinkle in Time... Wind in the Door... Many waters...

Quite good books that appeal heavily to both genders. Edges a bit more into the fantasy than Sci-Fi... but great stories all the same.

Why Science Fiction? (4, Insightful)

trs9000 (73898) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143243)

Have they asked for science fiction? (Disregard if so). Or shown any interest in reading it, in the least? It seems clear you are into it, and that's pretty awesome. But maybe you should aim to buy something that your nieces and nephews really enjoy. Something you know they will enjoy, based on their tastes, not yours. Not something that will collect dust on their shelves. You don't want to be the weird uncle (I'm assuming you're male due to the nature of your question) who always gives dopy books none of them like.

Probabilistically, what are the odds that they are all interested in sci-fi/fantasy? Nothing is "essential" as you put it, it's all a matter of taste. I read some growing up, but disliked a lot of it. So even if they are studious or like to read (an assumption right there, maybe a CD is what they would really appreciate) the topics could be as far ranging as biography, architecture, 18th century literature.

Giving the same genre across the board doesn't speak to any of them personally, and showcases what you think they should be interested in, not what they actually seek out themselves.

And, I believe, the season of giving is about selflessness and doing for others. Perhaps, rethink your strategy?

And if not, all these other suggestions here are good too.

Re:Why Science Fiction? (2, Insightful)

Halfbaked Plan (769830) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143861)

One of the things that 'giving a gift' can represent is giving someone else something that you like in hopes that they may like it as well. It's a concept called 'sharing.'

Re:Why Science Fiction? (1)

delirium_9 (26055) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144196)

If all you're going on is a hope that they may like it, then you aren't buying them a gift.

It's a concept called consideration of others.

Re:Why Science Fiction? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14144205)

Screw that. They're apparently just some unrelated person's children or something. They're lucky to get ANYTHING.

Re:Why Science Fiction? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14145264)

It is not selfish to share something you love with someone in the hope they will derive value from it. If you want to argue that science fiction has no merit for young women, hence shouldn't be shared, then that is a case you can certainly make...but you didn't actually do that. Instead, you implied that this person was somehow wrong for soliciting book suggestions, which makes no sense at all.

Your position seems something like a couple of other posters who recommended gift certificates or money so these kids could go pick out whatever they wanted to read. However, some people want to share more than that with a their gifts. The orignal post was clearly an attempt at "doing for others." It's better to be the "weird uncle" who shares something unique than the "rich uncle" who gives out money.

... for Teenage Girls? (3, Insightful)

XoXus (12014) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143254)

Why would this automatically be different to SciFi stories for Teenage Boys?

Re:... for Teenage Girls? (3, Funny)

daeley (126313) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143553)

Why would this automatically be different to SciFi stories for Teenage Boys?

Didn't your school have the Special Assemblies where the girls and boys were separated and watched the different films? Well, the girls watched The Abyss and the Boys watched Predator. ;D

Re:... for Teenage Girls? (1)

LordLucless (582312) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143924)

Because boys are different to girls?

(There are some websites around that will allow you to verify this visually, I've heard)

Re:... for Teenage Girls? (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144217)

Maybe for the same reason girls like Miatas and Mini Coopers and boys like Mustangs and Vipers.

Maybe for the same reason girls like RedBook and Family Circle while guys like News Week and Sports Illustrated.

Maybe for the same reason girls like Days of our Lives and guys like The Shield.

Maybe for the same reason girls like figure skating and boys like boxing.

Maybe for the same reason girls like Nintendogs and boys like GTA.

Maybe for the same reason girls dream of being a princess and marrying a rich doctor and boys dream of being a sports star and marrying a hot stripper.

Maybe for the same reason girls read Nancy Drew and boys read Asimov.

Re:... for Teenage Girls? (1)

XoXus (12014) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144412)

Maybe for the same reason girls read Nancy Drew and boys read Asimov.

We've already narrowed it down to "SciFi", more so than just "books". If we were asking what types of gentle sleuth novels teenagers like to read, Nancy Drew would apply to both genders. Apart from the odd scantily-clad busty barmaid, what is it about some SciFi that would turn girls off, if they were interested in SciFi at all?

Re:... for Teenage Girls? (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144612)

Well, label me a sexist pig, but I would say the "sci" part of "scifi" scares them off. The countless organizations and articles (frequently here on slashdot, in fact) proclaiming how women aren't interested in math, science or computers would tend to back up my statement, though.

The point being - there are some girls who read quality science fiction and are interested in it just like there are a few girls who are into programming or math or chemistry. But it's silly to assume these girls would use anything that doesn't fall into the MTV / Princess Diary line of entertainment as anything more than a booster seat at the childrens' christmas table.

Firsthand (1)

Kiaser Zohsay (20134) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143321)

My twelve-year-old is a huge HP fan (all of my kids are) but she also enjoyed the Narnia series, Ender's Game, and Wrinkle in Time. She read the Hobbit, but said it was hard to finish (it does kinda drag in the middle). Another consideration in this age bracket is Accelerated Reader. If the lids you're buying for have Accelerated Reader at school, then you get bonus points for any book that's on the AR list.

Re:Firsthand (1)

gcatullus (810326) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144734)

Well this shows how totally out of touch I am with books these days. When you said your daughter was a huge HP fan, my first thought was Lovecraft and not Rowling.Cthulu for kids, what a concept, although I did notice at Barnes and Noble that they have a "Edgar Allan Poe for Children".

The Deed of Paksenarrion (3, Interesting)

dreamer-of-rules (794070) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143341)

The Deed of Paksenarrion - by Elizabeth Moon

It is in the Tolkein genre, but more personal, less "grand armies crashing". It's more accessible than Tolkein, but still grand. The hero is an -ine, which makes it a little more appropriate for the nieces. Everyone I have introduced to the book has loved it, including my in-the-Marines brother. And all of my sisters.

If they are in the Christian-way, I can also recommend the Stephan R Lawhead books: The Dragon King trilogy and the Empyrion saga.

My other favorites are more mainstream, and have probably already been mentioned.

One more book to consider is The Count of Monte Cristo. Long, but oh so good. I first read it when I was in sixth grade with a five-day flu, and it has been on my top 5 list ever since.

John Hackworth (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143417)

A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer, IMO, is a good book to give to young girls as covers a lot of things which may be useful later in their lives. It's not easy to find, but definitely worth it.

Re:John Hackworth (1)

Hakubi_Washu (594267) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143638)

The parent is of course referring to a fictional "book" and its author, both presented in "The Diamond Age or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" by Neal Stephenson. A very good read, though not exactly for preteens, I'd say. It's esier if you already understand nano-technology and turing-machines :-)

Philip Pullman (2, Informative)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143469)

I would highly reccommend anything in the "His Dark Materials" series by Philip Pullman [] . It's age-appropriate, both genders appreciate it, and the story is absolutely beautiful and really unlike anything else in the genre.

That said, I think you're going in the right direction with Pratchett and Gaiman.

Tolkien's always worthwhile as well, but i'm sure you already know that. If you have any relations you particularly dislike or want to intimidate, you can always give them the Silmirillion.

Re:Philip Pullman (1)

Bootle (816136) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143600)


The ending is quite sad, not as sad as my own life, but close

Not to troll the question... but... (1)

Mad_Rain (674268) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143513)

I don't mean to troll the "Ask Slashdot" deal here, but this bugs me. It's the holiday season, where you're buying gifts for loved ones - it seems to me that you're gifting them with stuff that YOU want, not giving them stuff that THEY want. I know that getting them a Barnes & Noble gift card (or $localbookstore gift card, whatever) is a bit impersonal, but they're teenagers - let them choose stuff that they'll like. And if you want to recommend sci-fi books to them, then by all means, do so, but don't try and make them like what you like. Everyone ends up happier this way, and that's the point of the holidays anyway - sharing joy.

Re:Not to troll the question... but... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14143664)

You're talking about heartless gifts. Continuing that reasoning we can conclude it's inappropriate to give a gift certificate for a specific store because it robs the recipient of choice on the path to joy.

Sometimes I give gifts that I hope will cause the person to remember me when they use it in whatever manner they do. Sometimes I give gifts to introduce the recipient to an idea or subject they might not otherwise stumble upon.

Mostly I give gifts because I feel like it, and the rule isn't that you give the bestest gift they could ever hope for, the rule is you give a gift if you feel like it. "If I feel like it" leaves most people a lot of leeway.

Re:Not to troll the question... but... (1)

Calmiche (531074) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143960)

Ah, but the problem is, there is such a HUGE bredth of literature out there, and books have become so expensive, that it is easy to get stuck in one genre and never come out. I mean, if you buy a book and don't like it, you are out up to $20.00 for a hardback. A lot of people just stick to their known authors and series. They don't venture out until something shows up on the bestseller list or Oprah's book club.

Introducing someone to a wonderful new experience is going to be a much more memorable christmas than getting some of the same recycled formula crap that gets shoved at a lot of kids.

I still remember the family friend that loaned me his copy of "A Wizard of Earthsea." I still remember the first time I read "Starship Troopers". I loved the librarian that introduced me to Terry Pratchett.

Forget bland safe giftcards. They don't mean anything. And even if they throw the book on a shelf and don't even read it for 4 or 5 years, eventually they will pick it up and realize how thoughtfull you actually were. Just remember to sign inside the front cover so they know who to thank!

What is that supposed to mean? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14143529)

Just because I'm a teenage _girl_ I'm supposed to have some strange taste in books? Why not mention their personalities, what kind of characters appeal to them, how hard (or soft) they like their science fiction?

I'm partial to Knight and Polk but I've only encountered them in short stories so far...

why not ask her/them? (2, Interesting)

doug (926) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143556)

The sci-fi/fantasy genre is pretty large, so you should get your hints from the reader, not from the peanut gallery. Blasters vs. unicorns, dragons vs. starships. Space Opera, satire, philosophy: the scope is just too large.

When I was in college I tried to get various people hooked on the genre and I had the most luck with the Hobart Floyt and Alacrity Fitzhugh trillogy by Daley. The first one (Requiem for a Ruler of Worlds) did the trick. And for some reason, Moorcock's Elric never had much success. Go figure.

Although you do mention Pratchett in your queston, I have to bring up _Wee Free Men_. It was a fun read, the protagonist was a girl "coming of age", and was targetted to the pre-adult reader. And to agree with many of the earlier posts, LeGuin's Earthsea Trilogy was another excellent choice.

- doug

a short list. (-1, Troll)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143596)

Year Author Title Comments
1919 James Branch Cabell Jurgen Many sexual innuendos; was prosecuted for obscenity
1932 Aldous Huxley Brave New World Only promiscuity is socially acceptable
1953 Theodore Sturgeon The World Well Lost Alien homosexuality
1949 George Orwell Nineteen Eighty-Four Sexuality restricted by the state (based on the 20th century history of totalitarianism)
1949 William Tenn Venus and the Seven Sexes Procreation on Venus requires seven sexes
1961 Robert A. Heinlein Stranger in a Strange Land The Crèche, a form of group marriage
1961 Brian Aldiss The Primal Urge Emotion Register on forehead tells others when you experience sexual attraction
1962 Naomi Mitchison Memoirs of a Spacewoman Interspecies mating during shore leave; aliens that change their sex
1965 Frank Herbert The Dune series Human breeding and eugenics planned over thousands of years
1966 Samuel R. Delany Babel-17 Starship crews bonded by group sex; sexual relationships with the "discorparate" spirits of the dead
1966 Robert A. Heinlein The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Various forms of group marriage; professional host-mothers
1967 Harlan Ellison, ed. Dangerous Visions
1968 William Tenn The Seven Sexes A short story in which Humanity encounters an alien race with a seven sex life-cycle.
1969 Kurt Vonnegut Slaughterhouse-Five Naked with a porn star in an alien zoo
1969 Ursula K. Le Guin The Left Hand of Darkness A planet of androgynes, where non-androgynous people are 'perverts'
1970 Robert Silverberg Tower of Glass Graphic descriptions of anatomy
1970 Ira Levin This Perfect Day
1972 Thomas M. Disch 334 Flexible sexual relationships, but compulsory contraception
1972 Isaac Asimov The Gods Themselves Aliens with 3 sexes; co-penetration
1973 Woody Allen Sleeper Orgasmatron orgasm booths
1974 Samuel R. Delany Dhalgren Sexual freedom and exploitation in all conceivable combinations
1975 Joanna Russ The Female Man Four parallel universes, one with no men, one with male sex slaves
1976 Samuel R. Delany Triton Male bisexual with gender issues
1978 Gardner Dozois Strangers Human must be surgically changed to alien to mate with his alien lover
1979 John Varley Titan A future where sex changes and other radical body modifications are commonplace
1979 Diane Duane The Door Into Fire Gay sexual relationship
1980 Larry Niven Ringworld Rishathra, sex between humanoid aliens of different species
1980+ Godard Ribera Le vagabond des limbes The eternal Eternauts live an eternal childhood or until they meet their true love and then choose their sex accordingly
1981+ Alejandro Jodorowsky Incal One character, Solune, is an androgynous messiah with immense psychic powers, customers at brothels can genetically engineer prostitutes to exact specifications
1982 Anne Carlisle, et al. Liquid Sky A comedic science fiction film in which space aliens land to feed off of endorphins released during orgasm
1984-86 Mike Resnick Tales of the Velvet Comet Four novels set on a spaceship bordello
1985 Margaret Atwood The Handmaid's Tale Women are subjugated by men in a theocratic America; five classes of women, one only for procreation
1986 Theodore Sturgeon Godbody Religious sexuality
1986 Lois McMaster Bujold Ethan of Athos Reproductive scientist on a planet with no women
1987 Iain M. Banks The Culture novels Where humans can change sex at will
1987-93 Storm Constantine The various Wraeththu novels Humanity mutates into a hermaphroditic race
1989 Spider Robinson Callahan's Lady The most amazing House of Prostitution Anytime, Anyplace and Anywhen
1992+ Alejandro Jodorowsky Metabarons A monastic order called the Shabda-Oud are trying to create an androgynous messiah, the fourth Metabaron, Aghora, is a transman
1993 David Brin Glory Season Sexual vs. asexual reproduction
1998 James Alan Gardner Commitment Hour Children alternate between male and female every year until age 20, when they must choose
2003 M. Christian The Bachelor Machine Sex robots that accept credit cards
2004 Carlos Atanes FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions Not only sex, but physical contact between human beings is forbidden.

Source n []

Re:a short list. (1)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143613)

PS, I'm sorry....

James Alan Gardner (1)

Gyga (873992) | more than 8 years ago | (#14143631)

Expendable (first one I read I suggest this one first) is very interesting, most of his books are except i didn't really like Trapped (he tried to blend sci-fi and Fantasy, didn't work).
After expendable there is Hunted, Radiant, Vigilant, and Trapped. The books don't really have an order but they use they same settings (and one character).

L. Neil Smith books. (1)

Bob_Robertson (454888) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143694)

Taflak Lysandra and Brightsuit McBear are a couple of his works that are written expressly for the young reader. You will likely have to get them from AbeBooks. I can also recommend his Lando Calrisian trilogy, it's quite readable and in a known "universe". an=l+neil+smith&y=6&x=48 [] an=l+neil+smith&y=0&tn=brightsuit&x=0 [] an=l+neil+smith&y=0&tn=taflak&x=0 []


_Treason_ by Orson Scott Card (1)

dr_leviathan (653441) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143749)

_Treason_ is my first choice when recommending scifi to somone who hasn't yet explored the medium. It would be a good book for teenage girls. Unfortunately it is out of print and is difficult to find in used bookstores.

Re:_Treason_ by Orson Scott Card (1)

Calmiche (531074) | more than 7 years ago | (#14143870)

Man that's a good one. I had to special order it from a used bookstore last time I wanted to read it.

Do you mean the original version (1979, A Planet Called Treason) or his rewritten version? (1988)

Jean M. Auel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14143784)

The Mammoth Hunters, and etc, the series. Girls should like it a lot, woman author, female protagonist, adventure and romance.

"There is another..." (1)

VernonNemitz (581327) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144003)

Science Fiction and fantasy aren't the only sort of mind-expanding literature. Mysteries are good for the mind, also. Therefore the classic Nancy Drew books are equally worthy.

Roger Zelazny and Mary Stewart (1)

zhobson (22730) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144041)

These might technically be considered "fantasy" rather than sci-fi but whatever.

I am surprised nobody has mentioned Roger Zelazny's "Amber" series of books. I would highly recommend those to anyone's niece.

I would also like to re-raise the suggestion of Mary Stewart's Merlin trilogy (starting with "The Crystal Caves"). One of the best fantasy series ever.

My regards for a very thoughtful gift-giving tradition.


Stephenson's Diamond Age (1)

Idylwyld (324288) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144300)

Good god, Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age is perfect for teenage, but possibly not pre-teen, girls. Most of the rest of the stuff that's been mentioned, I'm sorry to say, is really more in the juvenile category and would be an insult to any decently intelligent, moderately read young lady

Early stuff, avoid what they wrote latter (1)

bluGill (862) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144391)

There have been many good suggestions. However a warning is important: go for the early stuff the authors wrote, not what they write after they quit their day job. A few (Andre Norton comes to mind) managed to continuously write quality books. However many authors do not. (Mercedes Lackey) Those latter authors often get worse and worse over time.

I wish publishers had the nerve to stand up to established authors and tell them that this garbage would never have been printed if they were new, so why inflict it on fans now? Then demand they spend another year or so turning it into a great book. (Sadly there is no money in that)

I keep going back to names I love, only to be disappointed. I try new names once in a while, but that is no better (the quality might be better, but it isn't the type of book I want).

Here's an idea (2, Interesting)

poopdeville (841677) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144429)

I know I'll be modded a troll or off-topic, but I'm being sincere. Why focus on science fiction? These are those girl's formative years. Why not give them a novel that will help them form a realistic conception of themselves and their relationship to the rest of the world? "Nausea" by Sarte and most of Camus' corpus is all terrific. "The Trial" by Kafka is another great book, and ends with a surreal chapter that leaves you breathless.

Terry Brooks.... (1)

Raisputin (681604) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144579)

The Shannara Series by Terry Brooks

  1. The Sword Of Shannara []
  2. The Elfstones of Shannara []
  3. The Wishsong of Shannara []

Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman:

  1. Dragons of Autumn Twighlight []
  2. Dragons Of Winter's Night []
  3. Dragons Of Spring Dawning []
  4. Time Of The Twins []
  5. War Of The Twins []
  6. Test Of The Twins []

L. Ron Hubbard:

  1. Mission: Earth: Vol 1
  2. Mission: Earth: Vol 2
  3. Mission: Earth: Vol 3
  4. Mission: Earth: Vol 4
  5. Mission: Earth: Vol 5
  6. Mission: Earth: Vol 6
  7. Mission: Earth: Vol 7
  8. Mission: Earth: Vol 8
  9. Mission: Earth: Vol 9
  10. Mission: Earth: Vol 10

Depending on their reading habits that should last them at least a 20 days, and hopefully more like a few monts. I read the Mission: Earth Series in a week when I read it because it was that good IMO.

If they have not read them yet, there is of course Douglas Adams' Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy [] . It is too bad The Movie [] sucked the sweat off a dead man's balls, because the books were GREAT

You might also consider som Isaac Asimov such as I, Robot [] and/or Foundation []

Just my $.02...Hope it helps, because I am now being forced by slashdot to add more characters to this post because apparently creating a good list with appropriate links is a bad idea here.

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Marion Zimmer Bradley? (2, Informative)

SleepyHappyDoc (813919) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144694)

I was never a teenage girl (and I don't play one on TV), but you might consider something by Marion Zimmer Bradley. In particular, I was thinking of The Firebrand. It's a heavily fictionalized (can a myth be fictionalized?) retelling the story of Troy, from the perspective of a young Kassandra. Might be too long for a preteen, but an older child would probably enjoy it. The novel has some great strong female characters.

Re:Marion Zimmer Bradley? (2, Informative)

miyako (632510) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145416)

I wasn't sure if I should mod this up or comment, so I'll prepend a comment with "Mod Parent Up"
Marion Zimmer Bradley is a great choice for young women- or anyone. Along with The Firebrand, I would recommend The Mists of Avalon- which is based on the story of King Arthur and Avalon, though Mograine is the main character, instead of King Arthur (TNT did a very good movie adaption of this which is available on DVD too).
You might also look into the Harry Potter books, which are quite good and quite popular.

Just SciFi, or can I suggest "fantasy"? (1)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 7 years ago | (#14144959)

Anything by Kim Wilkins [] , Freda Warrington [] , Storm Constantine [] or even Starhawk [] should be fairly interesting to anyone who's interested in depth to their characters. The genre is (mostly) "Dark Fantasy".

What my actual, real-life girlfriend read as a kid (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14145057)

Yes, I've got a girlfriend, who, growing up, loved Orson Scott Card way more than I do, and Madaline L'Engel (or however you spell her name), and the old Heinlein with their female protagonists. She loves Phillip Pullman, and Ursula K. LeGuin, and Margret Atwood, too.

I guess the more important question is, what do your nieces love? Why not mix it up with a little Jane Austin, or some Isak Dinesen? Or get 'em some poetry- Emily Dickinson or Edna St. Vincent Millay? (Or get some cool non-fiction...)

I'm cheating by just listing female authors- of course, they may just as well love books by men.

There's plenty of really wonderful stuff out there, and as the kindly nerd uncle, you have the opportunity to expand their horizons in all kinds of directions.

Rite of Passage (1)

one-egg (67570) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145222)

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "Rite of Passage" by Alexei Panshin. It's a great story for any preteen, but especially girls. Heck, it's a good read for adults, too.

"A Girl's Guide To Sex With Dogs" (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14145234)

It's more like non-fiction, but they'llenjoy it better than some boring story about space ships or robots.

Better Than Men (sometimes)--

A Girl's Guide To Sex With Dogs
September, 1996

Men: This guide is for WOMEN ONLY; you can stop right here and get your rocks off on something else.
Women: Have you ever wished you could have-

The hottest oral and vaginal sex (up to 6 orgasms for me in one session!)?
Simple pure physical satisfaction with no strings attached?
Sex without AIDS or pregnancy fears?
Private sex that no one will ever find out about?

If you answered yes to any of these, then you should consider having sex with a dog. Wait, don't laugh! I am VERY serious.

My name is Jamie, and I am not ashamed to say that I enjoy having sex with dogs (and I've been doing it since I was 14!), I am totally "normal" in almost all respects: I'm 28 and live in Los Angeles. I have a boyfriend who is pretty good in bed and I have a great job as a graphic artist. But I've found that dogs can actually be better and more satisfying lovers than either men or women!

I know that sounds weird, and a lot of you will be shocked by this, but thousands of women and girls worldwide agree with me, and, by all indications, more women are discovering this secret every day. Women have been having sex with animals for centuries, and I wholeheartedly recommend it to any woman who wants to experience what is possibly the most intense and electrifying sexual experience there is.

If you have a dog, chances are he is practically your best friend already. He is more loyal than any man, and loves you completely, unlike many men. He doesn't talk back or argue, and he's always there for you. Why not take it a step further and let him become your sexual lover? Male dogs are naturally horny practically all the time, so helping him relieve some sexual frustration can just be a demonstration of your love for him, and a lot of fun for you! Unlike men, dogs are almost always ready to have sex when you want to, they won't tell all their friends about your experience together (and who cares if they do?), they can't expose you to AIDS or other sexual diseases, and, perhaps best of all, they can't get you pregnant!

Now, I'm not some weirdo who advocates sleeping only with dogs and not with men. Far from it: I have a good relationship with my boyfriend and we are sexually active. (I've also had one serious relationship with a woman.) However, I seem to be hornier than he is, particularly at certain times of the month. There are times when my guy isn't around, or doesn't feel like it, or I don't want the emotional complications involved with human sex. I can then turn to my doggie to get off, and its great.

I'm sure many of you are disgusted by this whole thing, and that's okay. Just quit reading now and go on with your boring "normal" sex life. But if you want to learn more, keep reading.
I first had sexual contact with a dog when I was 14, and it continued off and on until I went to college. But I always felt ashamed or weird or guilty, and that kind of ruined the experience. After I graduated and had my own place, I also got a dog. One night, I came home drunk and ended up messing around with Max again. Afterwards, I thought about it, and I decided that I didn't have to feel guilty about pleasing myself and my dog. I decided that if God didn't want us to do it, he wouldn't have made dogs so interested in sniffing and licking human females. It's my body, and my puppy, and I can do what I want as long as it doesn't hurt either one of us!

Okay, enough about me, let's discuss how YOU can enjoy dog sex. There are three areas that I will cover in this guide: Oral sex, Vaginal sex and Anal sex. My thanks to the original writer of this guide (it wasn't me, but I edited it and I agree with almost everything she wrote).

ORAL SEX Oral sex is the way many women first get exposed to dog love. Dogs are naturally attracted to the scent of a woman's vagina, so many of you have already discovered that Rover likes to sniff your panties or even your crotch. Allowing him to take it a step further is an excellent way to experience some of the greatest oral sex you will ever have in your life! One of the nicest things about allowing a dog to lick your snatch is that most male dogs will spend much more time than a human male providing you with the most electrifying oral sex. A dogs tongue is also much longer and is able to get to many places that a man can't or won't. A dogs tongue is covered with thousands of tiny buds that when he licks your clitoris you will feel sensations that you did not know existed. And, how many of you have had a man give you analingus? Not many i'll bet. Well, I'm hear to tell you that having your ass licked is a great thing, and a dog has no problem doing it for you!. If you have never experienced a tongue working from the very top of your slit all the way around to the end of your crack you have truly missed something grand.

There are several very good positions for you to try if you want to try this. If you decide that your preference is clitoral/vaginal only I have found one position that works very well. I recommend that you sit on the edge of a bed so that the back of your calfs are flat against the edge of the bed. You then lay straight back picking your feet up and placing the on the edge of the bed. This will expose your clitoris, labia and vagina to his waiting tongue. For those of you who would like more but want to prevent him from trying to mount you then the ideal position is reclining on your side, on pillows or cushions, on the floor. All you have to do at that point is to raise your leg a little and he will have access to all of your pussy and ass. For those of you that want that ultimate experience you will have to give give him full and total access to you. This can only happen when you are down on all fours. Now I know that staying in that position for more than a few minutes is not comfortable at all but there is one way that I have found that will be both very comfortable and very enjoying. You kneel at the edge of your bed and then lie the upper part of you body face down onto the bed, keeping your knees on the floor. You then spread your knees apart as much as you dare giving him full access to you. One very important item to remember while you are considering what position you would like to use is that if you do not wish to have him mount you this is not the position to use.

Now that we gone over all the wonderful things that a dog can do for you with his tongue, lets talk about what you can do with yours. According to several doctors and veterinarians I have spoken with, a dogs cock is three times cleaner that a mans cock. A dog will spend considerable time every day cleaning it, how many men do you know that do that? So, why not try it? I find that when I am sucking off a dog, I have a tremendous amount of mental stimulation that gets me horny as hell! Just knowing that I am sucking on an animals dick will get me so horny, that it doesn't take much to get me off. I will usually use a free hand to masturbate while I am sucking him, and I have some of the greatest orgasms this way.

Most male dogs will gladly allow you to suck them and there are many positions to do it in. I find that two positions are very good and are easy to accomplish. For those of you that are just starting out and are nervous about doing it I recommend that you have him lie on his back with you next to him. This will give you full access to his cock and be able to control all the action. But, another great method I use is to lie on my back with the back of my head slightly raised by a pillow and have him stand over me with his cock within reach of my mouth. Then he humps me and does all the work, leaving my hands free to masturbate myself with. One important thing to remember when sucking a dog: While most men like to have their balls rubbed or fondled while having their cocks sucked, this is not so with all dogs. Before starting any sexual activity with him touch and feel his cock and balls to insure that he does like it. The next thing that we are going to do now that we have gotten into the position that we prefer is begin to get him aroused. I find that the best way is to first gently stroke his cock through his sheath until it begins to enlarge and slip out. Once you have at least an inch of him out of his sheath you should gently take him into your mouth. You should continue to gently stoke him with your hand while you begin to slowly move you mouth back and forth over his cock. As you do this his cock will continue to enlarge until he reaches full erection.

While you are moving your mouth over his cock you should try to place the tip of you tongue into the indentation on the head of his cock as this will cause his to reach his climax. As he gets closer to his climax you will notice that at the base of his cock there is a very large bulge known as his knot. This knot is used to hold his cock inside a female (dog or human) until he has finished ejaculating. If you are considering going further then you should make a mental note of the size of his cock and knot. The average large dog has a cock, when aroused, that is 5 to 7 inches long and 1 and half to 2 inches wide. The knot for a dog whose cock is 6 inches long and 1 and a half wide can be two inches long and 4 inches wide. A dog is different than most mammals as from the time they begin to become aroused until they begin to get soft they will have some form of ejaculate coming from their cocks. At first arousal there is a clear thin fluid that tastes like iron and has the consistency of water, this is his precum that is for lubrication so his knot will slip into the females vagina. At full arousal is when he actually will produce his sperm and you can tell when this happens as his cum will begin to have a slightly salty taste to it. You should be aware that his cum will never be as thick as a mans but he will produce about twice as much as a man. I personally think that dog cum tastes much better than man cum.


Good old screwing thats what this is all about, well not quite. There are a number of things that differ from sex with a man other than the dog can't get you pregnant.

At this point I will assume that you have made the decision that you are going to have sexual intercourse with a large dog (75 pounds) and that you are there by yourself. I will be your companion and you may visualize me there. The first discussion is how are we going to do it. There are two prime positions to use, the old standard doggy style and the safer missionary style. If we choose the missionary position you can prevent him from getting his knot inside you and we can be in control the whole time. Ok you want to try the missionary position, you are siting on the edge of a chair, a towel under you to prevent his and your cum from staining the chair, your ass at the very edge legs spread wide apart. Here comes your lover he sees your warm and wet pussy and at once begins to sniff and lick it. You call him up to you so that he has his front paws on the chair his body between your legs. (I like to put some socks over his front paws so that he can't scratch me accidentally.)

Then you take his sheath in hand and begin to stroke it gently and as he begins to swell and extend you guide the end of his cock into you. As he feels the wetness and warmth of you he begins to hump, slowly at first then faster and faster until you feel his knot at the mouth of your vagina. As his cum slowly fills you up you too reach climax. If you allow him to put his knot inside you YOU WILL be together until he gets soft which usually take 15 to 20 minutes but can take up to 45 minutes. The major benefit of the missionary position is that if you do not want to have his knot inside you you can, in almost all cases, prevent it by holding it in your hand. I find that the most satisfying and arousing sensations I feel are caused by the knot being inside me. I try to have my dog put his knot in every time we make love, but whether or not you want to is up to you.

Doggy style is just that, you are down on all fours with him. This position will allow you to fully experience the pleasure of having a canine lover. He will at first sniff then lick you and after the tastes and smells begin to arouse him he will move to a position to mount you. A dog will usually come up directly behind you and mount you that way. Once he has mounted you he will begin to hump trying to get his cock into you, if this is something new to him then you should guide his cock to where it should go, he will do the rest. As the two of you continue he will move faster and faster with his strokes until you feel his knot begin to swell and rub at the lips. At this point we have decision time, If you want it inside you you should totally relax and allow him to slide it in. If you don't want it in you you should reach back with your hand and try to hold the knot with your hand. A simple note of warning, if you use this position and then decide that you don't want his knot in you you may not be able to prevent it from happening. If his knot is in you you WILL have to wait until he gets soft. I do not recommend you trying to remove it as unless your vagina is very large, it will hurt and may even injure you. So if you have any doubt's at all I would stick with the missionary position.

Well we are now mated and as his knot continues to swell inside you you begin to feel this warm feeling inside you. I have been told that a dogs body temperature is higher than a humans and that his cum is even warmer, and as he cum's deep inside you you can feel that warmth. His knot is now fully expanded, his cum is flowing into you, your juices begin to flow mixing with his and at this point you begin to feel his knot begin to throb. I found that while doing it doggy style as his knot pushs against the inside walls of my vagina it also pushes against the inside of my clitoris and that the sensations of that happening drive me wild. I have reached orgasm up to seven times in a row while this is happening.


There are some things that you should consider before you attempt allowing your lover to mount you for the purpose of anal sex. You should be experienced with anal sex, by this I mean you should have no difficulty taking your human lovers cock into you. You will not always be successful with achieving penetration and if you do you may wind up with his knot inside you. If you now still want to try it well lets go. In finding a good position for male canine/human female anal sex I have tried dozens of positions and found many that work and many that didn't.

I have found that the best position is one called a modified doggy position. To get into that position you should first find a open space, very private of course, inside your house or wherever and place a soft pad on the floor for you to kneel on. You then kneel on the pad and get into a normal doggy position. To achieve the correct position you now bring your knees forward and tuck them up into your stomach. Now that you have done that you rest the front of your body on your elbows. Great you have mastered getting into the proper position, now there are some other things you have to do before you call to your lover. We have this little problem with lubrication that has to be solved with something otherwise this will really hurt. I have found that natural oils such as olive or corn oils work best and will not hurt your lover. NEVER NEVER use vaseline or that like as they will make the dog sick or even worse.

Well now we know what lubrication we are going to use we must now apply it. It is not enough to just smear a little oil on the outside of your anus for this to work, you must lubricate both outside as well as inside. The easy part is the outside and I leave that until I am in position to do. To lubricate the inside I have found that if I lubricate as much of the inside of my anus as possible I have no discomfort at all. I use a large eyedropper, that will hold about an once or so of oil, to get the oil inside and when I have done that insert one finger to spread the oil over the muscle.
Congratulations you are now ready, you have done your inside lubrication and are in the proper position and here comes your lover. You should now take your oil and rub some on your anus and the area around it. After he has mounted you you will probably have to guide him into you. Once he is inside he will hump just like an vaginal sex. The same precautions concerning his knot should be used here as well. I do not recommend those just starting out to try having him insert his knot. As there is not as much stimulation with anal sex you may want to gently masturbate while he is in you. There is one way to increase the stimulation and that is place a dildo into your vagina. This will transmit his movement inside you to you clitoris and help you reach climax.

Just a few footnotes about the fun of canine human sex. You can do all of these things while a human lover, male or female is present and in some cases the experience is more enjoyable. I would have liked to have had illustrations for this but I have not found someone to pose for them and I am more than a little nervous about having my picture here. Ladies any volunteers?


"The People" series by Zenna Henderson (1)

dtmos (447842) | more than 7 years ago | (#14145639)

My vote is for the "The People" series of short stories by Zenna Henderson [] . It's usually regarded as fantasy, but I've always considered it firmly in the sci-fi camp.

The backdrop of the stories is a spaceship of human-looking aliens ("The People") that crash-lands in the American Southwest, scattering individuals and groups over a large area. The aliens have certain abilities not usually seen in the Southwest (telekinesis, etc.), but have to try to blend in with the local population nevertheless. Not only are the stories largely concerned with interpersonal relationships (the loneliness of feeling different from everyone else and the desire to fit in with the group is a strong theme, something I expect will resonate with early teenage girls), the protagonists are often teenage girls as well.

The stories were collected in a 1995 book, "Ingathering: The Complete People Stories of Zenna Henderson [] " (also available at Amazon et al.), and it's a great read. I've always felt that the best introduction to the series is the short story "Ararat," but YMMV.
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