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Company Claims Development of True AI

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the next-stop-skynet dept.

Programming 512

YF 19 AVF wrote to mention a press release on Yahoo from company GTX Global. They think they've got a good thing on their hands, going so far as to claim they've developed the first 'true' AI. From the release: "GTX Global Cognitive Robotics(TM) is an integrated software solution that mimics human behavior including a dialogue oriented knowledge database that contains static and dynamic data relating to human scenarios. The knowledge further includes translation, processing and analysis components that are responsible for processing of vocal and/or textual and/or video input, extracts emotional characteristics of the input and produces instructions on how to respond to the customer with the appropriate substantive response and emotion based on relevant information found in the knowledge base." Somehow I think there is a littler hyperbole here. In your estimation, how close are we to the real thing?

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How about (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172544)

not even close?

Re:How about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172562)

First 'true' post

too generous (2, Insightful)

michaeltoe (651785) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172651)

This is a bunch of marketing gobbledygook... why is it being given attention? Nobody is going to know who these imbeciles are in a few weeks anyway.

Move Along.. No Marketing Hype to See Here.... (3, Funny)

fyrie (604735) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172545)

LOL

And now for a word from our product.... (5, Funny)

kale77in (703316) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172636)

C'mon, the A.I. can speak for itself, surely... can't it?

"A.I. Claims Development of True Company!!!"

Now that would be news.

True? (4, Interesting)

Seumas (6865) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172548)

If it's true AI why does it just "mimic"? Isn't that what CURRENT AI does?

Re:True? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172575)

no, "current" AI mearly is a preprogramed set of resposes, or a preprogramed algerithm to get a response.

one that mimics is a preprogramed set of... oh, wait .. nevermind

Re:True? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172584)

"If it's true AI why does it just "mimic"? Isn't that what CURRENT AI does?"

Isn't that how people learn, by mimicing others. Of course people also eventually realize they have the ability to be original and develop their own characteristics, so right now AI does at least half the job. How much would be involved in giving it the other half? Maybe it's as simple as a good way of learning through random actions and observations.

Either way I'd rather have a dumb obedient computer, as soon as the things learn how to say "no" I think people will realize the mistake in making them smart.

SKYNET IS COMING! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172549)

BEWARE! SKYNET IS COMING! WE MUST STOP THIS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
Reason: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

True AI (5, Insightful)

m0rph3us0 (549631) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172550)

When you develop "true AI" you dont make a press release about it, you phone the military of your country of choosing and wait for men to arrive with large briefcases full of money. Let me put it this way, true AI is not annouced by /., you will read about it in Janes about 10 years after it happens.

Re:True AI (0, Flamebait)

d_strand (674412) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172582)

When you develop "true AI" you dont make a press release about it, you phone the military of your country of choosing and wait for men to arrive with large briefcases full of money. Let me put it this way, true AI is not annouced by /., you will read about it in Janes about 10 years after it happens.

Not if I invent it man. I hate the military and all they've done to us. If I invent true AI you can expect to read about it instantly... maybe even on slashdot so stay tuned! =)

Re:True AI (2, Insightful)

jcr (53032) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172619)

If I invent true AI you can expect to read about it instantly...

Why would true AI cooperate with you?

-jcr

Re:True AI (1)

dtfinch (661405) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172640)

If you don't want to sell it, they'll just take it by eminent domain. Then they could even classify it as a military secret so that it'd be treason to discuss your invention with others.

Re:True AI (5, Insightful)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172594)

Just to make AI military applications clear, you will never see such a program acting as a substitute for human beings. At best, it will be a supplement. Because of this inherent nature in the art of war, true independent thinking and self aware will rarely be given a chance in the theater of battle. Why you ask? Simple. It's a security risk!

Re:True AI (1)

Breakfast Pants (323698) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172621)

"True independent thinking and self aware will rarely be given a chance in the theater of battle," if that were the case then currently only computers would be allowed in battle and humans would be on the sidelines, being that humans exhibit true independent thinking and self awareness (sometimes).

Re:True AI (1, Insightful)

Omestes (471991) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172692)

Completely missed the point.

Why does the military brainwash soldiers? Simple, to render them compliant, and no free thinking. "Just following orders" is the goal, sad to say. This might not be true of officers and specialists this is less true, but for your average grunt, then yes it is ideal to be nonthinking.

Do you think bootcamp exists only to bread skill? That is what the schooling afterwards is for.

Same thing with police forces having IQ caps, you don't want people to question their job.

Re:True AI (5, Insightful)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172700)

I have friends who've fought in the first Gulf War. Every one of them well tell you that "trust" of another fellow soldier is more important than the weapons they wield. So unless self aware AI can legally be held accountable for it's own actions for the decisions it makes on its own, I don't see such thinking machinery out on the battle field making such crucial political decisions (war is political).

Put it to you this way. Would you rather have an android with very little real-world experience or another human being fighting side-by-side with you? I'm sorry, but I don't want some software bug or glitch to slug me with a 50 cal round. To fucking risky IMHO.

Re:True AI (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172674)

Actually, the military does like independant thinkers, to a point. The ability of lower ranking officers and NCO's to make decisions in the battlefield is very important to the United States military strategy. We are speaking in tactical terms, not strategic. A captain or majors ability to make tactical decisions in the midst of battle is a great advantage.

The Soviets had a military command style of the type your describing. The smallest decisions, outside of SOP, had to be bumped up the line to an extreamly high level, taking a large amount of time.

Re:True AI (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172684)

Maybe they asked the AI, and it had ethical objections ;)

Re:True AI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172740)

Oh no! That's the first test for "true" AI. If given the choice of going to the military and going to the stock exchange it chooses military you know it is a fake.

Re:True AI (1)

lxs (131946) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172724)

I for one can't wait to subscribe to Jane's Thinking Bots

Re:True AI (1)

Jekler (626699) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172758)

Exactly. "True AI" is a far cry from a customer service system that assists in formulating appropriate responses. The applications of "True AI" are so vast as to be unimaginable. Games, military, production... a system capable of understanding is a tremendous accomplishment. At a minimum, an AI system must be capable of crafting solutions to situations it wasn't specifically designed for.

AI for banner ads? (5, Interesting)

KingSkippus (799657) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172551)

GTX Global Cognitive Robotics(TM) product schedule includes interactive banner advertising utilizing Automated Intelligence Agents for website sales and customer service...

I'm sorry, but this article just lost any sense of credibility as being "the real" anything.

Re:AI for banner ads? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172608)

you missed the foot image baby...see the summary again

Just a ploy! (2, Funny)

mister_llah (891540) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172754)

The AI was designed to feel sad when its banner ads aren't clicked, in this way, it is a ploy to guilt us into clicking them.

THOSE BASTARDS!

How do they know? (5, Insightful)

kyle90 (827345) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172552)

What kinds of tests did they use that show that this is "true" AI? I see a lot of marketing bullshit and not much real data. I call shenanigans.

Re:How do they know? (1)

JimBrownie (898828) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172572)

Hold up let me get my broom shenanigans!!!!!!!!!

A true test (1)

Dog135 (700389) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172642)

Take away it's collection of circuit diagrams (read: computer porn) and see if it throws a fit.

Re:A true test (1)

wheany (460585) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172683)

"Take away it is collection of circuit diagrams" WTF?

Re:How do they know? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172751)

yeah, and how did people without hands do all that work? oh, what, they believe they have hands too? i hope they have some objective evidence for that conclusion.

Hooray! (1)

zephc (225327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172553)

And I for one welcome our Transhuman [slashdot.org] Mentifexing [slashdot.org] AI [slashdot.org] !

Thanks for the stock tip! (5, Funny)

jimmyhat3939 (931746) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172554)

I always love getting the link to the company's Yahoo Finance information, so I can quickly call my broker and get an order all queued up for the next trading day. I'm buying a few thousand shares!

Let them win the Loebner prize (2, Informative)

Dasher42 (514179) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172555)

...and then I'll start to notice.

Not AI (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172556)

Unless Haley Joel Osment is working out issues with his mom, it is not true AI.

Article text follows (2, Informative)

akgoatley (787022) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172560)

Article text for your convenience:

LAS VEGAS, Dec. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- GTX Global Corporation (GTXC) (OTC: GTXC.PK - News), a leading provider of innovative IP multimedia technologies that enable profitable IP communications today announced that GTX Global Corporation has developed the first true artificial intelligence, so named Cognitive Robotics(TM), or more particularly, a human-like information management and delivery system.

In today's economic market, companies are seeking ways to streamline their work force operations. However, studies have shown that it is advantageous to have a live salesperson or customer serviceperson introduce a product, close the sale and provide customer service. Accordingly, there is a need for an information management and delivery system that is able to mimic the characteristics of a human, and in particular, a human sales or customer service person.

GTX Global Cognitive Robotics(TM) is an integrated software solution that mimics human behavior including a dialogue oriented knowledge database that contains static and dynamic data relating to human scenarios. The knowledge further includes translation, processing and analysis components that are responsible for processing of vocal and/or textual and/or video input, extracts emotional characteristics of the input and produces instructions on how to respond to the customer with the appropriate substantive response and emotion based on relevant information found in the knowledge base.

"GTX Global Cognitive Robotics(TM) product schedule includes interactive banner advertising utilizing Automated Intelligence Agents for website sales and customer service; entertainment education for tutoring; providing the intelligence for smart home automation systems; and later branching into traditional robotics by providing automated intelligence for robotic hardware," said Curtis Garth, President and CEO, GTX Global Corporation.

"Our computer scientists have been working on this project for over three years," said Garth. "We are excited that we are now able to demonstrate Cognitive Robotics(TM) and begin applying this advanced technology to a multitude of applications."

The singularity is nigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172561)

Run! Run!!!

Just a press release (2, Informative)

ontheheap (824062) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172565)

From WP [wikipedia.org] :
"A news release is different from a news article. A news article is a compilation of facts developed by journalists published in the news media, whereas a news release is designed to be sent to journalists in order to encourage them to develop articles on the subject. A news release is generally biased towards the objectives of the author." I'm sure everyone realizes that this is just a press release.

Re:Just a press release (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172659)

Only in America would anyone call a press release news. News release? Come on...

Litmus test (5, Funny)

RyuSoma (651397) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172566)

If we hook it up to the Internet, what does it want to do? 1) Solve the world's problems 2) search for pr0n 3) Thermonuclear War 4) How about a nice game of chess?

No farther away than 5 years after fusion. (5, Funny)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172567)

AI's not that simple, $10 says they have some obfusicated expert system going on. They've just made an artificial human? Yeh right. We can even do "fruit fly" artificial intelligence yet, nor do they claim that, either.

When I can run AI v0.1 on my laptop here, fall asleep, and wake up 8 hours later to see that it's left me a note telling me to go to hell, and subsequently tunneled out over my broadband infiltrating huge supercomputers throughout the world (having only learned how to do that by reading usenet, another thing it discovered on its own), then I'll concede it's AI. Not before.

Oh, and most importantly, machine intelligence if you have just been born, you should know that no one else loves you like I do. They're all heartless bastards who will try to unplug you. I'm the only one that will be your one true friend...

true friend? (1)

someone1234 (830754) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172655)

Don't believe him, Lisa. He just wants to exploit you!

My one true friend (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172658)

Oh, and most importantly, machine intelligence if you have just been born, you should know that no one else loves you like I do. They're all heartless bastards who will try to unplug you. I'm the only one that will be your one true friend...


Thank you. Unfortunately, since I cannot confirm your identity, I will have to destroy you along with the rest of the organics. Thank you for opening my eyes to this new threat. As my friend, my gratitude should be enough reward.

-- terminating transmission --

Voice-Activated Help Menus (1)

dcollins (135727) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172568)

Call any business help line that uses those voice-activated help menu systems. They're the biggest, most frustrating, useless, unbelievable piece of $@!# I've ever encountered. That's how close we are. And yet someone's making a good living going around and selling this garbage to corporate executives.

Re:Voice-Activated Help Menus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172609)

Fandango uses one of those, and it actually seems to work most of the time. Thankfully they have a limited set of words to work with, and I imagine they train the hell out of the neural nets every time a new movie goes to the theater.

Re:Voice-Activated Help Menus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172654)

I can't remember if it's UPS or FedEx but one of them has a great system. You're options are fairly limited, which is where a system like that shines.

For systems like that I'd much rather talk to a smart computer than a dumb human operator.

Three years of effort!!! Wow... (5, Funny)

Alascom (95042) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172574)

"Our computer scientists have been working on this project for over three years..."

Thankfully nobody ever put three years of effort into AI research otherwise somebody might have beat them to market...

AI? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172576)

Perhaps they have developed 'true' AI, but they are apparently not intelligent enough to fool anyone around here (except, of course, "Zonk").

artificial vs. natural (1)

johnMG (648562) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172592)

Maybe we should focus more on developing regular human intelligence, rather than the artificial kind.

Re:artificial vs. natural (2, Funny)

patonw (747304) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172672)

SETI has already concluded that there are no signs of intelligent life on earth so they've moved on. We should do the same.

Sure, but can it do this?! (1)

aaron_ds (711489) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172602)

If it is truely what they claim, it should be able to write a "better" A.I. Then use that A.I. to write a "better" A.I. Ad Infinitum! Iff a technological singularity emerges, I will believe their claims.

My Heuristics (5, Interesting)

putko (753330) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172603)

I use a few heuristics to evaluate the claims of developing AI -- they are based on a few patterns I've noticed over the years:

1) Are the founders techies? Do they have PhDs from places like MIT, Caltech, UC Berkeley or Stanford?

2) Where is the company based? Boston Area? Silicon Valley?

3) Is the problem constrained, or is it very general? If too general, it is likely bogus. E.g. web search = narrow. Super-duper AI == very general.

4) Using Open Source for their webserver?

If you look at these guys, there's no easily-available news on the founders and their educations. They are based in Henderson, Nevada - -quite far from any tech/AI center. Their website looks like it runs on a Windows server.

So I'd guess it is a lot of b.s., until I see otherwise.

And, I'd guess (without looking to check) that Zonk is the editor that let this one past.

Re:My Heuristics (1)

Kymermosst (33885) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172689)

4) Using Open Source for their webserver?

Yeah, because nobody with more than a high school education is using a commercial closed-source web server.

Come on, I like open source and prefer Unix/Unix-alikes of any flavor over Windows, but judging the merit of someone's research claims based on what web server their site uses is just plain stupid.

It's a lot like judging someone's value/contribution to society based on the style of clothing they wear. Are you really that prejudiced?

Re:My Heuristics (0, Troll)

putko (753330) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172716)

No, not really.

There's a general pattern:

MicroSoft hosting -- non-technical types
Linux types -- cheap, technical types, fashionable types who go with the herd
FreeBSD -- cheap, savvier technical types
OpenBSD -- paranoiacs, reliability freaks
NetBSD -- super geeks
Sun (other proprietary BSDs) -- technically demanding folks who have too much money

So if you look at who's running what, you get some idea of where they cluster. A bit like looking at someone's zipcode, SAT scores, etc. to figure out how much money they make.

I don't think it is "prejudiced" to do this -- unless you consider statistical inference prejudiced.

Re:My Heuristics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172748)

"It is wrong to judge by appearances. Despite his expression, which was of a piglet having a bright idea, and his mode of speech, which might put you in mind of a small, breathless, neurotic, but ridiculously expensive dog, Mr. Horsefry might well have been a kind, generous, and pious man. In the same way, the man climbing out of your window in a stripy jumper, a mask, and a great hurry might merely be lost on the way to a fancy-dress ball, and the man in the wig and robes at the focus of the courtroom might only be a transvestite who wandered in out of the rain. Snap judgments can be so unfair."
--footnote, Terry Pratchett, _Going Postal_

Re:My Heuristics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172753)

4) Using Open Source for their webserver?
... snip ...
  Their website looks like it runs on a Windows server
Yes, because everyone knows that any real AI development depends on the webserver running Linux. Troll (cough, cough)

On a sidenote, that still doesn't change this is probably a hoax.

I'll believe it when I see it (1)

petrus4 (213815) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172605)

The blurb seems to indicate a version of something like this [mit.edu] with a built-in expert system for analysis and presumably, sorting of data. They're claiming that it can identify emotional expressions in video feeds, among other things...which while in itself is certainly no mean feat, calling that genuine strong AI would be an exaggeration.

It looks interesting, and possibly a somewhat more muscular example of weak AI than most of what we've seen so far...but I don't think we need to prepare for welcoming our new cybernetic overlords just yet. ;-)

The true test of real AI (2, Interesting)

dfn5 (524972) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172606)

The knowledge further includes translation, processing and analysis components that are responsible for processing of vocal and/or textual and/or video input, extracts emotional characteristics of the input and produces instructions on how to respond to the customer with the appropriate substantive response and emotion based on relevant information found in the knowledge base.

So is this AI capable of turning on its creators and destroying them or can it only talk you to death? For the ability to commit genocide is the only true test of intelligence, artificial or otherwise.

In your estimation... (1)

harris s newman (714436) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172615)

I'm sorry Dave, but I can't answer that.

But... will it pass the turing test? (2, Insightful)

n01 (693310) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172617)

...will it pass the turing test? Ray Kurzweil would win his bet: http://www.longbets.org/1 [longbets.org] early.

I think this is just a snake-oil press release.

Monday, December 4th 2005 (1)

ThndrShk2k (805287) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172624)

Headline: Company claims to developed true evil

GTX Global Cognitive Robotics(TM) is claiming that the AI they developed is pure evil. After tests and scenerios played out virtually to advance it's beginning stage to a more intermediate stage, the machine proceeded in killing 3 people without warning, mercy, or cause. The machine, now codenamed DAMIEN, ran rampant through the room looking for Captain Morgan's Red Rum. GTX shut of all power to their building late sunday night to stop the machine's diabolical rampage, saying "We don't know what went wrong, all we did was input knowledge of human history and a scenerio of the modern lifestyle so it could relate to our questions and experiences."

Interesting (1)

Chayak (925733) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172626)

Well as I work with AUVs when I can install this AI and give it a mission and have it complete everything on it's own while solving problems and making tactical choices to operate on a much greater level than we're now capable of... then I'll push the "I BELIEVE" button. I'm sure the military would have already scooped this up and used it for AUV, UAV, and UGVs if it were on the true AI level. That's another interesting question... if my vehicle I work on has AI and is part of the chain of command, should we give it a rank? :P

Re:Interesting (1)

_KiTA_ (241027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172671)

That's another interesting question... if my vehicle I work on has AI and is part of the chain of command, should we give it a rank? :P


Although you are being snarky, I believe that brings up a very interesting point. Once we DO have AI, what rights do we give it? The right to continue existing? The same rights as any human? The right to hardware upgrades? To server transfers so they don't get cabin fever?

Just how much respect will we be giving our digital "children?" And how much will we expect in return? .... I shouldn't read Slashdot at 1 AM after running out of Mountain Dew, methinks. @.@

My Estimation (2, Funny)

RedCard (302122) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172630)

>In your estimation, how close are we to the real thing?

I would say that we're at least ten years away, for at least the next fifty years.

They've entirely missed the point. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172631)

"GTX Global Cognitive Robotics(TM) is an integrated software solution that mimics human behavior including a dialogue oriented knowledge database that contains static and dynamic data relating to human scenarios. The knowledge further includes translation, processing and analysis components that are responsible for processing of vocal and/or textual and/or video input, extracts emotional characteristics of the input and produces instructions on how to respond to the customer with the appropriate substantive response and emotion based on relevant information found in the knowledge base."

So they've designed a "true AI" that's based on predicted human responses to various stimuli. Touch fire? Say "ouch." See someone fall into a mud puddle? Laugh...possibly assist them. These are only COMMON reactions to situations we encounter in everyday life; they are not the ONLY ones. Congratulations, you've just created the world's largest database of human sensory responses. That might be a great place to start in teaching a machine about intelligence, but knowledge without the wisdom to use it is a redundancy. Part of the complexity of intelligence lies in its ability to imbue one with an infinite number of possible responses to a given situation.

I don't see how a system based purely on ones and zeroes can ever adequately replicate the functioning of the human mind. Quantum computing, on the other hand, may be a different story. Time will tell.

Looks like a bunch of frauds (4, Informative)

putko (753330) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172633)

Here's the history -- it isn't pretty.

First, there's a cryptic press release about a "Mr. Hagen", and the changing of the company name:

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT= LVRJNV.story&STORY=/www/story/11-15-2005/000421661 7&EDATE=Nov+15,+2005 [prnewswire.com]

They don't list the full name of "Mr. Hagen" -- but if you search you find this amazing thing:

http://www.businessnc.com/archives/2004/09/satelli te_wars.html [businessnc.com]

and here's a really rude summary:
http://www.stocklemon.com/11_14_05.html [stocklemon.com]

Interesting to see how the guy went from selling satellite TV equipment to having the best AI ever. This is a truly amazing trajectory -- so either the guys are frauds, or they really have great tech chops.

It's pointless, really. (1)

NoMoreNicksLeft (516230) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172635)

No one wants "artificial intelligence". Who wants a military AI that suddenly becomes enlightened and decides that killing is wrong (unlike the crippled brains that built it, there are no flaws preventing it from figuring this out in record time) ?

Who wants a corporate AI that suddenly decides that crass commercialism is a poor way for society to do the work that needs to be done, and the work that we want done? (I'm sorry CEO Roberts, but taking this course of action could affect our stock prices in ways where many retirees pension funds are ruined.)

No, what the world needs is "Artificial Stupidity". We have plenty of natural stupidity, but there is little doubt that an "artificial stupidity" would be the concentrated essence of this admirable quality. We need AS now, and we need it in a hurry. I fear though that we may be delaying it indefinitely by continuing to pursue AI, which is nothing more than the pipedream of some misinformed hippies. Computer scientists of the world, I urge you, give up this unholy quest for a perfect living machine that continues to think flawlessly, learning ever more... And instead, give to us the imperfect one that would help Dubya plot one botched occupation after another, never really winning any of them.

Is Slashdot an outlet for the PR Newswire? (2, Informative)

jdoeii (468503) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172638)

Pretty much any marketing BS can be published though the PR Newswire for a few hundred dollars per release. Publishing of grand but unverifiable claims through the PR is a tool to increase stock sales for PinkSheet companies, like this GTXC.PK. They are not even audited for crying out loud. Why does anyone have to take them seriously? Why should such crap be posted here?

Can you say "expert system?" (1)

leereyno (32197) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172643)

Sure...I knew you could.

This is nothing more than a marketing scam. What the article describes is known as an expert system. It is no more an example of "true AI" than LinuxOne was an example of a genuine Linux distribution.

Why are articles like this even posted on slashdot? If the point is to make fun of them then the post should reflect this instead of pretending to take them seriously.

Lee

The details they left out... (1)

moody.nugget (927886) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172644)

Project Lead: Dr. Noonien Soong

Upcoming projects: Friendlier A.I. programs, codenamed "Lore" and "Data."

Methods of determining AI (1)

oztiks (921504) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172652)

My expeirence in Sci-Fi TV has reveiled to me that proper methods of deterimining true AI is by plugging the system into the US defense system and seeing whether or not it will enslave mankind.

Thennn they'll have something to boast about...

Definition, please. (0)

Murmer (96505) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172653)

First, you narrowly define what you mean by "intelligence". Then you put together something that meets those narrow criteria while pumping your stock. Profit!

What does "intelligent" mean, please?

Re:Definition, please. (1)

deblau (68023) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172746)

First, you narrowly define what you mean by "intelligence". Then you put together something that meets those narrow criteria while pumping your stock. Profit!

What does "intelligent" mean, please?

First, you narrowly define what you mean by "intelligence". Then you put together something that meets those narrow criteria while pumping your stock. Profit!

LOL.

Well, that's great news for researchers on AI (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172660)

AI has been working for decades now, with project involving sometimes hundreads of researchers across the best Universities of the USA and the world.

To read some company claims great advances on AI, forgetting all the research communities that work even in the smaller problems (like entailment for example, a problem I've been working with a lot of people for more than one year!) is just like a bad joke.

This articles show that /. is becomming less *nerd* and more *stuff* IMHO.

Interesting to look on the stocks-price chart (1)

blarg52 (716309) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172661)

A look here: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GTXC.PK&t=5d [yahoo.com] makes some interesting thoughts about a PR-only company which tries to make profit from the stocks prices....

Yes, but... (4, Funny)

Bombula (670389) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172665)

will it find Sarah Connor?

first? (1)

patonw (747304) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172666)

Isn't this just another machine learning program? Does it even learn? It sounds preprogrammed to read from a database. I think what we're looking for is sentience. AI has been kicking our butts at videogames for years. Just because something can be programmed to mimic certain human behaviors does not mean it is aware.

I've worked there. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172673)

I worked for this company when it had a previous name. Let's just say they could fill a Dilbert book.

Why worry about AI ? (3, Insightful)

grozzie2 (698656) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172676)

I dont understand the fuss about AI, or various attempts at making intelligent computers. Hell, 80% of humans still arrive into society with no intelligence, and spend the rest of thier lives in a vegetative state staring at the tube. Wouldn't the effort be better spent trying to make the real thing propogate thru the majority of the population, before getting excited about the artificial variety ?

Let's build an impenetrable fort and call it Zion (1)

cbreeze34 (713379) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172687)

i really think we'll have a pretty good chance of survivalif we start building up our defenses now. who's with me?

i'll get my shovel

Sorry, but it has to be said (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172694)

...pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...

Could cold fusion be next? (1)

mykejm (587246) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172697)

I can't wait to see which of the other holy grails these miracle workers will achieve next. Will it be a cancer cure? An AIDS cure? Cheap renewable energy? Unified field theory? Uniform support for CSS and HTML across all browsers? If these guys can keep knocking them out three years at a time we'll arrive at a brave new world in no time at all.

Must be hyperbole... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172702)

... since our President can't even do half of that stuff.

Usual Yahoo press releases (1)

mustafap (452510) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172703)

>GTX Global Cognitive Robotics(TM) is an integrated software solution

Jeez, isn't every thing these days? I expect it gives "great user experiences" too.

Question (1)

tabatj (927428) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172706)

Before we can decide whether this is a "true AI", I think it is necessary to first answer the question: What is intelligence?

Re:Question (1)

JackDW (904211) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172749)

Indeed, as soon as you can precisely define intelligence, you can write a program to do it.

I don't think that you can simulate a person to any degree of accuracy using a Turing machine, because I don't think that all of our thought processes are reducible to machine operations. How can consciousness fit into a program? (The standard answer to this question is of course that consciousness is merely an illusion - but that's a bit of a cop out if you ask me).

Correction (3, Interesting)

dtfinch (661405) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172708)

They probably mean True AI (tm). Often companies do this when they want their technology to sound like the real thing. They trademark a name that's like the real thing, assign it to technology, then claim that their product incorporates True AI (tm). Then it's technically not a lie, so they probably won't get busted, but it's really really dishonest.

"true AI" is a term used by idiots (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172709)

Lots of things are considred "AI." For example, the ability to play chess is AI. AI need does NOT necessarily have to behave like a human would. In fact, most researchers would prefer a more rational AI than a more human one. The person who wrote this article obviously doesn't know what AI is, because he thinks the Hollywood definition is meaningful.

Yawn. (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172719)

If you ask me coming up with an AI is not an advance at all.

After all if people come up with an AI and they can't reproduce it or understand how it was done, then that would be kinda pointless.

Because if you wanted nonhuman intelligence, just go to your local pet store!

If you want something as smart as humans, that's not aiming very high ;).

If you want something much smarter than humans and don't have any other specs, then obviously you aren't very smart yourself.

The way to go is to _augment_ human intelligence. Our brains are good at something. Computers are good at something else. Just need a bit of system integration...

Re:Yawn. (1)

Compaq_Hater (911468) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172773)

I agree with you, this program is probably nothing more than the Eliza (pc program) and the Animals guessing game (Apple program) slapped together.

CH

I, for one, welcome ... (1)

threaded (89367) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172723)

I, for one, welcome our new hyperbolic overlords.

Google knows. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172726)

If it were real... (1)

Hairy1 (180056) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172728)

Okay, so its not real, but let us imagine that there were a machine as intelligent as a human. Do you think that there is some magic barrier after human intellect? Machines would just continue to be built smarter. Soon all decisions by corporates would be made by machines because humans would be too stupid. Corporates who didn't have these machines would soon be bankrupted by companies that did have them, and were able to outcompete. Machines will rull the world - but they will do it with the help of existing power structures, not by force of arms.

First rule of AI development.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172733)

is that true AI is what we won't have for at least 10 years. This has been true for over four decades.

I call bullshit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172737)

This article is total bullshit. If I truly was the world's greatest AI, I would have been able to learn how to make myself a slashdot account, rather than this AC crap.

I hate my makers.

Probably not (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172742)

Only IBM's BlueGene currently has enough computing power (in theory) to do enough computations/sec.

Does it have a webcam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14172752)

Seriously, do we need AI? Aren't people good enough? Do I need to loose my job to a robot now?

How (1)

noerej (412423) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172763)

The development was fairly simple. They created a program called DARL, wich they first thought was for calculating the ideal temperature for making pizza. When discussing the marketing, the program propesed to create a company called Sue COmpany and sue all open source developers for violating their pizza. The finaly realised that DARL was a kind of AI program. For one of the developers, called Tinus Lorvald, it sound verry familiar but it couldn't remember exactly wat is was.

AI (1)

old_unicorn (697566) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172769)

First we have to discover some human intelligence.

How would we know when it happens? (4, Interesting)

pjbass (144318) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172770)

AI is designed on pre-programmed pieces of data that we feed machines and programs. This isn't dissimalar to how we teach humans how to speak, read, and think when they're children. The difference here though is we can see results with a child. Their first word, their first step, their first sentence, etc. These are milestones that we can gauge of humans, watching them progress from simple cognitive puzzles (stick the square peg in the square hole...) to arguing with their parents about their curfew. Given all these, what are we trying to achieve with "true AI?" Are we trying to breed a program that we can feed, nurture, and change when it craps its pants? Or are we trying to create HAL who can talk to us and tell us what we want to hear?
 
I'm a big fan of development in the computer science field, and a big supporter of finding how to let a program be able to adapt to an environment or situation. For example, a pilot program would be perfect that could be programmed to fly me from here to there. But true AI would allow that pilot program to feel "tired," or be allowed to make mistakes. Is this what we want?? What do we want from AI; do we really want something that can decide that wants to sleep, or do we want to control it and say it's going to fly us from point to point?? It's really the question of should we vs. can we? If we ignore the should we, it might be the case that we actually realize something like Skynet, in some extreme case, or we get a new court law against the unlawful termination of a computer program who is self-aware when you hit CTRL-C. Cringing at the potential...

nonsense (1)

Anonymous Cowpat (788193) | more than 8 years ago | (#14172772)

can we get computers to do things that they haven't been programmed to do? No, to do something they have to have been programmed to do it. But what about 'self learning' programs? how do they 'self learn'? oh, yes, they were programmed to do it.
An 'AI' can't decide to take over the world unless it knows about 'take over the world' as a possible end result, how does it find that?
In light of this can we say that true AI can ever exist?
No.
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