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Christmas Shopping For A Gamer

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the slashdot-editors-like-mmog-time-cards dept.

Christmas Cheer 135

An anonymous reader writes "This step-by-step guide shows you have to find the perfect gift for your gamer, even if you don't know anything about gaming yourself." From the article: "Trying to figure out which games are sure-fire hits and safe bets for the gamer in your life is never an easy task. Tastes range from the light and fluffy to the dark and deadly, and there are games for almost every type, style, and preference. There's no better way to come across as being on top of the game than to give just the right title, just as there's no faster way to cast yourself as clueless by dispensing copies of the GameCube's Charlie's Angles."

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Charlie's Angles (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227402)

Charlie's got some real acute Angles!

Re:Charlie's Angles (2, Funny)

mugley (521499) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227409)

Best geometry-related educational game I ever played

Re:Charlie's Angles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227523)

Stupid mods.

Charlies Angels?? (4, Interesting)

kermitthefrog917 (903403) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227405)

Why is charlies angels always the example???

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/19/153422 3&tid=233&tid=188&tid=97 [slashdot.org]

Re:Charlies Angels?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227502)

Because it's a blatantly mindless bimbo movie, and the corresponding gaming niche is already filled by Tomb Raider.

Re:Charlies Angels?? (2, Informative)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227601)

Because it's the worst game of this console generation according to GameRankings.

Re:Charlies Angels?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227670)

I don't know, but I can tell you that the Charlie's Angels theme has been in my head all day, thanks to its appearance in the overblown SFPD video 'scandal'. [cbs5.com]

What the fuck? (5, Insightful)

schild (713993) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227406)

Just buy them a gift card or give them money.

There, article replaced in one sentence. Jesus. Who pays people to write shit like this? Mom, Dad, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, Cousin, Uncle - we don't want you buying us games unless we specifically say "Buy us x."

Re:What the fuck? (5, Informative)

flipsoft (582240) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227435)

Also if you purchase a "gaming" gift card from Best Buy it comes with a $5 off coupon for any game or gaming accessory.

flipsoft

Re:What the fuck? (3, Informative)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227538)

But that also restricts them to buying a game from Best Buy, and even with the coupon, their prices are rarely the best.

It's all about the cash, baby.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

Drakonite (523948) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227659)

In my experience, Best Buy (or at least the local Best Buy) has on average as good if not better prices on games than just about every where else. It might be the amount of competition they have here, but it's not uncommon to find a new release marked $5 or $10 below the MSRP that every other store follows. Walmart does have some games marked $1 or $2 cheaper, but I don't like being treated like a criminal so it's worth the extra $1 or $2 every so often to not shop there.

I'm not affiliated with Best buy or anything, so if you can find me a place that sells cheaper feel free to let me know!

Back to the topic at hand... The gamer gift certificates at bestbuy are great gifts for people like me.. It's like saying "hey, I know you love video games and I really wanted to get you one, but I have no clue which one of those 1000 different games on the shelf you would like best"

That being said, some of the absolute best games I've ever played I might never have played if it wasn't for a "clueless" relative giving them to me as a gift.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

StarvingSE (875139) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227988)

They don't really do this anymore, Best Buy around here used to charge $30 for a new release the day it was released. I bought both unreal tournament 2k4 special edition and battlefield vietnam for $30 each this way.

And I agree, there are games that I wouldn't have played if it weren't for a relative buying it for me. The original fallout was one of those games for me.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

nharmon (97591) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228355)

Treated like a Criminal? I don't know what kind of Best Buys you have...wherever you are, but the ones around here usually have a guy standing at the door checking all orders.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

Babbster (107076) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227688)

Unless shopping for used titles or PC games, it rarely matters at which store you do your game shopping. MSRP rules the day for the vast majority of console games.

As for cash, I'm personally of the opinion that while it's usually great for the teenager/adult, the giver just doesn't get a lot of satisfaction. If we assume that gifts are all about the giving and not the receiving (that's the platitude, right?), the giver should be the happier of the two parties. This is why I like spending money at Hickory Farms. It's quick, it's simple, and apart from vegans (I don't do Christmas with any), meats and/or cheeses are right up everybody's alley. In my family (admittedly, an overweight group), few things make us happier than five-pound sticks of good summer sausage.

I think I might have gotten off topic? Oh, yeah, if you don't know jack about games but want to buy games for a gamer then, yes, get a gift certificate. It's a lot more fun shopping for a game one wants instead of going to the store to try to return a game one doesn't. And, frankly, I wouldn't want to encourage the uninitiated to try to make sense of the myriad of reviews out there, not to mention the possibility of platform confusion ("I thought you had a Nintendo!" "No, grandma, that's just what you call all videogames.").

Re:What the fuck? (5, Insightful)

Capt'n Hector (650760) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227569)

What an insightful comment. But not in the manner one would typically expect. Here folks, is a typical narcissist: "schild," instead of joining in the spirit of giving thoughtful and meaningful gifts, the facilitation of which the article assists perfectly well, rather thinks only of receiving what is most useful to him: money. Guess what buddy: if Christmas was just about what you wanted, everyone would just give each other checks. Marry Christmas, here's $20 from Dad.

Re:What the fuck? (3, Interesting)

schild (713993) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227622)

That's what I was going for, narcissism. Yea. Look, everyone knows what games cost. $50 for a third-party PS2/Xbox game, $40 for a 1st party one. $60 for a third-party 360 game, $50 for a 1st party one. 50/40 on the PSP, 35/30 on the GBA, etc etc. Anyway, it's not like a kid is shocked and thrilled when he gets a game he was going to get himself, but more than that - having worked in gaming retail going on 5+ years now, I can comfortably say that uninformed mothers and fathers shopping for their kids during the christmas season and not understanding the concept of "preordering" is the most aggravating fucking thing under the sun. More than that, if they can't find the game the kid wants (can we say, a new 360?) they'll buy something else and just piss the kid off. It's not worth the drama. If you can't find the item they specifically asked for just get them a gift card. If they didn't specifically ask for something, get them a gift card. And yea, I guess I should have said that if it's games the kid wants, get him a gift card from EB or Gamestop so they can preorder in full whatever game they want.

It's the only way we'll get those youngin's ready for a hard-learned lesson about not preordering.

Also, Hector, Hannukah is about giving family members money. Buying gifts is hard and rarely worth the hassle. Except with girlfriends. You don't get them giftcards if you're expecting to find your princess in the castle. In return, I expect her.... to give me a gift card. Anyway the article was a scientific anal retentive breakdown on how to buy someone under 18 a video game for christmas. And it was very obviously targeted towards buying gifts for guys and for parents who are overly worried that a game will make them kill their schoolmates (write down the ESRB rating? Oh, shove that up your ass. It's on the box in the store). I rarely comment on articles that qualifies as "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters." That should give you an idea as to what I think of the original post and the linked article.

Re:What the fuck? (3, Insightful)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227798)

Oh man oh man. I feel you dude. I worked two Christmas seasons at a Sharper Image store. The burnout is a bitch. You are some kinda superhero for handling five without going drone to preserve your sanity.

Some people think that sales drones are lazy or incompetent, they are actually shell-shocked veterans who have seen the face of human stupidity on a daily basis and their minds eventually learned to simply shutdown while at work.

Re:What the fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227835)

Or you could, you know, do five to ten seconds of market research and stock more than two copies of the games which are obviously going to sell like wildfire, so when Mom/Dad/Grandma come in in early December trying to Christmas shop they don't get berated by some unwashed 16 year old about not preordering.

Re:What the fuck? (3, Insightful)

bwalling (195998) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227839)

Buying gifts is hard and rarely worth the hassle.

Please discontinue your celebration of Christmas and/or Hannukah. You have no idea what they are about.

Re:What the fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227889)

Hannukah is a festival of lights, and like every jewish holiday, its "someone tried to kill us, they failed, so lets eat."

The gift giving thing is a recent phenomenon. Its more about the food, family, and stories.

At least it is for me. I get one gift a year from the family, and I still ask them not to bother. :)

Re:What the fuck? (3, Insightful)

Achoi77 (669484) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228189)

Please discontinue your celebration of Christmas and/or Hannukah. You have no idea what they are about.

Because the primary purpose of the celebration of these holidays are about the purchase and exchanging of gifts? If so, why should we go about critisizing someone's method of going about it?

Re:What the fuck? (1)

davetv (897037) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228087)

Are you my dad? ... Merry xmas ... my paypal account number is 123454321

Re:What the fuck? (1)

Snowspinner (627098) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228706)

Hannukah is about giving family members money

The funny thing here is, I don't think you could have managed a more anti-Semetic statement if you'd been trying.

Except with girlfriends. You don't get them giftcards if you're expecting to find your princess in the castle. In return, I expect her.... to give me a gift card.

Or a sexist one, at that.

actually, the whole post

Or a selfish, assholish one at that. Personally, I hate getting gift cards. Why? Because it means that someone doesn't know me well enough to have an educated guess about what I might want. It's a "I hear you like those book things! Here's a Borders gift card!" present. Or a "Oh, you got me something... I guess I'll buy you a gift card." It says that you didn't care and didn't want to put any effort into the present.

Some of the best presents I've ever gotten were things I didn't ask for that someone saw and thought "Oh, neat, he'll like that."

Re:What the fuck? (1)

Meagermanx (768421) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228817)

My grandpa's been getting us Best Buy gift cards for Christmas, and I love it.
Let me clarify first by saying that he doesn't really understand technology. Last time he tried to buy video games for christmas he got Buzz Lightyear and Mickey Mouse computer games for kids more interested in RPGs and FPSs.
If I got my brother a gift card, it would be lazy. If somebody who lives in Florida and doesn't know how to hold an N64 controller buys my brother a gift card, it's better for both parties.

Re:What the fuck? (3, Insightful)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228024)

>giving thoughtful and meaningful gifts

Heavy with the moralizing today eh?

When you get a bit older and your list of gift receivers gets huge and you really don't know exactly what someone wants then you'll see the wisdom of the gift card. Especially when it saves someone from waiting in line to return something they dont want or already have.

Not to mention, Xmas is pretty much forced on everyone is in the US. For some people I'll make some real effort and buy/create a really nice gift, but to expect me or anyone to do this for everyone is ridiculous.

Re:What the fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228366)

To me, giving money to someone is like saying : "I don't really care about you, but if I don't give you something you'll know that I don't care... and, next time I'll need you, you'll pretend you're too busy or something. So... here's $50 to buy your services."

Sorry, but I'm not a prostitute.

BTW, I'm 36 and my list of gift receiver is quite small. My secret ? I don't offer gift to people who give me a gift card. They're not worth it anyway.

Re:What the fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228839)

The definition of a gift item is something so overpriced that no one would buy it for themselves, but will overspend to buy it as a gift.

Why buy a gift only so that the receiver has to exchange it or regift it to someone else?

Give cash as gifts, cut out the middleman.

Mod you down, or reply? Hmm... ok, reply! (3, Informative)

King_TJ (85913) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228081)

Quite frankly, unless you're willing to reject all of the "commercialization" of the Xmas holiday completely, and refuse to give *any* pre-built products as gifts - you can't escape what you're complaining about anyway!

I mean, what do you suggest? We all start making hand-made wooden gifts for everyone on our shopping list, so they "truly come from the heart"? Or maybe we should just write hand-written letters wishing them a happy holiday, and offer to mow their lawn a few times next summer, or shovel snow off their driveway for free?

Personally, I find it the exception rather than the rule where I feel I have a great gift idea for someone I know, and feel positive they'll appreciate it every bit as much as anything they'd find on their own if I gave them a gift card or cash. Xmas may be "about giving rather than receiving", but nobody really wants to be the one giving less than desireable gifts.

If anything, I'd venture to guess that most of the notion of "cash is such an impersonal gift" came from the mouths of retailers, scared some cash recipients might just save or invest the money, rather than spend it in their stores. IMHO, cash is a *very* personal gift, simply because you only earn money as a result of your labor. If someone thinks enough of me to give me a portion of their "buying power" they earned through hours and hours of work for someone else, I'm very thankful for that.

Re:Mod you down, or reply? Hmm... ok, reply! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228564)

I mean, what do you suggest? We all start making hand-made wooden gifts for everyone on our shopping list, so they "truly come from the heart"?

This sounds like a great idea. Wood blocks for everyone! IMHO, cash is a *very* personal gift, simply because you only earn money as a result of your labor.

I guess you've never heard of dividends or the stock market, huh?

Re:What the fuck? (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228107)

Marry Christmas, here's $20 from Dad.

Who says you can't put the $20 inside a nice Christmas card and wrap a ribbon around it? The kid will spend the money, and he gets the Christmas card to remember 10 years from now. And surely he'll remember what he bought with that money, and think: "Ah... those times."

Heh I just remembered a gift card my sister gave me to buy an RPG magazine. It even had a smiley in it. :') It does make you nostalgic, you know.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

Neoprofin (871029) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228772)

Unless, like me, you open cards by tipping them over and create a pile of checks, gift cards, and cash to be dealt with later. I'm only hard to shop for becasue I really wish people would stop getting me anything.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

selmer (37218) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228307)

Marry Christmas, here's $20 from Dad.

Marrying Christmas for $20? Only in America!

Re:What the fuck? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228685)

Marry Christmas? Didn't James Bond do that at the end of Die Another Day?

Re:What the fuck? (4, Insightful)

Flyboy Connor (741764) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227584)

Just buy them a gift card or give them money.

Or a blowjob, if you're a hot chick. I mean, the objective is to make the gamer happy, right?

While the article in question is just meant as being "funny" (although it does not really succeed at that), finding a gift for ANYONE who is mightly interested in objects of a certain category X, is not to buy anything in category X. Either what you will buy is crap, or what you will buy is good but already owned by the person in question.

Exceptions are: chocolates, wines, and blowjobs, as long as you are certain that they are of high quality.

Re:What the fuck? (3, Insightful)

Animedude (714940) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228000)

True. Never buy an adult who is REALLY interested in something a gift related to that area of interest. At the very least ASK the person if what you intend to buy is ok with him. Otherwise chances are you will buy something that person already owns, or you will buy something that person intentionally does not own (because he does not like it). A gamer who earns money usually WILL own all the games he really is interested in. As simple as that.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228077)

Which is why gamers (and others) should have whishlists on a couple sites.

Or like the rest of us they should just practice their social skills :

"Oh wow, great, thanks so much"

And open an eBay account.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

markx16 (214251) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228441)

Exceptions are: chocolates, wines, and blowjobs, as long as you are certain that they are of high quality.

I.e. consumables.

That's why good spirits are always a good gift.

Re:What the fuck? (1)

agraupe (769778) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228874)

Add exception: Cuban cigars... I haven't smoked one I didn't like.

For some gamers that is.. (4, Interesting)

Ka D'Argo (857749) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227423)

Christmas is looking more depressing as each year goes on. Games cost more and more. I'm more of an MMO fan and there's several I'd like to play and others that run like ass on my system. A new system is out of the question, and the rest I just cannot afford to play. Not into console games and most non-MMO games require more than my little system can handle, again those that don't are often in the higher price range.

Occasionally I'll find good deals. If I do get a game for christmas it might be something off the $10 shelf at Walmart.

Re:For some gamers that is.. (2, Informative)

lorelorn (869271) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227490)

Christmas is looking more depressing as each year goes on. Games cost more and more.

Wow, where do you live, and where do you shop? Your experience is the exact opposite to mine. Games are getting less and less.

Right now I can go out and buy Call of Duty 2 for AUD 89.99, which is the same as I paid for Ultima VI on the Amiga a decade ago. Taking inflation into account that is a big drop in price. Never mind that my income has substatially increased since then too.

I would get Splintercell: Chaos Thery (1)

mcvos (645701) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227686)

According to this list, I would get Splintercell: Chaos Theory, despite never having played Splintercell. I have the game because it was amazingly cheap somewhere and I figured I might want to give it a try one day, but haven't gotten around to it.

If I hadn't bought it, according to this article, I'd have no real sense of taste and any game would be fine. Nothing could be farther from the truth: I have a very strong sense of taste, and most of the games on this list just aren't my taste. Games that suit my taste are rare, although Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance would be very well accepted. No idea how good it is, but BG1 was okay.

But if you really wanted to make me happy, you should give me a serious, hard turn-based strategy game, a category that's completely ignored by this article. How in heaven's name is it possible that it doesn't even mention Civilization 4?

Fortunately it doesn't matter for me; we don't give gifts at Christmas but at Saint Nicholas (December 5), and my sister knew my taste in music well enough to get me an excellent CD from Tristania.

Re:I would get Splintercell: Chaos Thery (1)

Kirsha (201264) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227879)

You read the article? It's only talking about Gamecube games. Im pretty sure Civ 4 is only for the PC.

Re:For some gamers that is.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227710)

Games are costing more and more?? Where do you live, brother?

Geez I have games in my PS1 collection that cost $89 cdn (hell, they still have the price tag on them). Nowadays new releases on ps2/xbox/gc average 60 cdn, with a maximum of $70 for a few big name titles. From where I sit the upper bound for game pricing has decreased $20 during the last decade!

Re:For some gamers that is.. (1)

Infinityis (807294) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227972)

Also, you might want to check out abandonia.com, they've got a bunch of good ol' abandonware games you may have missed from years ago.

Better yet, burn them to a CD and give that to your friends/family--and don't tell them how much it cost you to get a "classic game pack"

Re:For some gamers that is.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228742)

A Jew celebrating Christmas, eh?

Re:For some gamers that is.. (1)

ThaFooz (900535) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228786)

Games cost more and more.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. Titles cost $40-$60 these days... they've cost that since the early 90's when I started gaming on the SNES. Factor in the rate of inflation over that span of time, and gaming is a much more affordable hobby then it was back then.

[MMO games] run like ass on my system. A new system is out of the question

A lot of gamers think that they need to stay 100% bleeding edge when 9/10 times the only problem with their current system is RAM and the Video Card - both of which are fairly cheap upgrades. Don't let Intel/AMD/Alienware fool you... the processor usually isn't the bottleneck, and Windows/most games aren't compiled for 64 bit machines (yet, and probably not for another year or two). 1 Gig of (midrange) RAM and a Vid card with hardware directx9 (no need to drop more than $180 on one) and you should be fine. The lifetime of a gaming machine has always been 3-4 years with an upgrade or two in between, and the price has only gotten cheaper. I reccomend building your own machine too, most PC manufacturers SUCK royally, and upgrading them is often not trivial.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227443)

XBOX 360... you can't go wrong. I've played it. It rocks. Ignore the slashbots.

Re:It doesn't take a rocket scientist.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227549)

Stupid mods.

nah, that's easy! (4, Interesting)

Janek Kozicki (722688) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227446)

adom [adom.de] of course. There's no better game, even though I've recently bought 6600 GT (because I need dualhead DVI for development). And even though nexuiz [nexuiz.com] works pretty well on my debian system under 1600x1200, with 70 FPS.

next question, this one was easy.

Re:nah, that's easy! (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227604)

Prepare to be hung from a tree by Nethack fans!

Re:nah, that's easy! (1)

Dogmeat83 (891431) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227959)

ADOM is pretty good, I played it myself more than I should, also check out IVAN: http://ivan.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

Its not as big as ADOM as it is relatively young, but you start in a tropical island, can eat bananas and drop the peels in front of the slaves so they slip and break their legs, then you can take them and beat some monsters underground with it.

It also has a religious system similiar to ADOM but you can pray more often. The only thing I miss is magic as its not implemented yet but you can make up for it with wands of necromancy or the several effects the gods will make every few hours when you pray, like earthquakes or summoning a mistress to fight on your side.

Or you could give them something useful... (1)

core plexus (599119) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227455)

DL and burn a copy of Knoppix (choose your flavor).

Then when the Inevitable Happens, they can pop in the CD and you'll have some free time.

Stoner hands Trooper Ashtray, with lit joint and a dozen roaches [suvalleynews.com]

Re:Or you could give them something useful... (4, Funny)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227546)

What kind of sick joke is it to give a gamer a Linux CD?

Re:Or you could give them something useful... (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227611)

As sick a joke as giving ANYONE a burned CD containing stuff downloaded from the internet for christmas or birthday.

Re:Or you could give them something useful... (1)

dancingmad (128588) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228851)

Who gave the Grinch posting privleges?

Obvious? (5, Insightful)

JViz (856566) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227471)

It looks like the writer fails to mention the most important part of buying games for someone else: finding out what game system they have. Anyone ever get a Genesis game for Christmas when you had a SNES, or vice versa?
"If your gamer has none of the titles on the lists, anywhere, then it's possible they simply have no sense of taste, and you're probably safe picking up almost any title at all; they might not be able to tell the difference."
I see a serious lack of PC games on his list. I guess PC Gamers have no taste and should buy ourselves one of the latest uber consoles because we're out of touch.
"ESRB Ratings: The ESRB ratings are like the PG-13 and R rating on movies..."
Wow... Just wow... I guess he needs more pages to fill his quota this month. If you can't understand the ESRB rating system by looking at the box, I seriously doubt the contents are going to matter much to you.

Re:Obvious? (4, Informative)

Scuff (59882) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227599)

notice the URL? http://nintendo.about.com/od/editorials/a/howtobuy .htm [about.com]

now look at the lists again, many of the titles are exclusive to gamecube. This should be mentioned more clearly in the article, or at least by the /. submitter.

Re:Obvious? (1)

JViz (856566) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227637)

Oh darn. Silly me.

Re:Obvious? (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228243)

I see a serious lack of PC games on his list. I guess PC Gamers have no taste and should buy ourselves one of the latest uber consoles because we're out of touch.


In my personal opinion, you should. Sure I'll play Nethack or Jools, but for commercial games, I'm all console.

It costs less.

Theres a more diverse lineupof games.

There's no worries about drivers/patches/iincompatibility issues.

The controls are better. Trust me, for action games, keyboards suck. I don't know how those WASD loving FPS players can tolerate such a shoddy control scheme. I'll grant you the mouse, but never the keyboard.

Now some of you are thinking, "but you can't upgrade your console and my PC will surpass it in yadda yadda yadda."

Doesn't matter. Frame rates, resoltuions, texture sizes aren't the be all and end all, fun is. And I had more fun playing Balder's Gate Dark Alliance on my PS2 than struggling with the shoddy, overly complex and badly designed control scheme in Neverwinter Nights. I wanted to have fun, not fight the controls.

Re:Obvious? (1)

FlamingWombat (901980) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228404)

Yeah, I was really surprised that he talked about not getting duplicate games, but completely failed to address the platform issue. What's more clueless than buying them Charlie's Angels for Gamecube? Buying them Charlie's Angels for Gamecube when they only own an Xbox.

...Buy me something... (4, Insightful)

AZskyPilot (867269) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227477)

I found the easiest thing to do is point them to my Amazon wishlist. The secret is to have lots of items at various price-points. It makes their shopping easier and you get what you want. That way I'll be playing Medal of Honor 2 for my PC instead of Backyard Hockey for the GBA.

Re:...Buy me something... (1)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227749)

Mod parent up. Wishlists are a great way to make sure you get something you really want but still get surprised. This year I only actually have one game on my Amazon wishlist, but I have a selection of books and DVDs too. I know my mum and dad will probably get me a few of them but I don't know which, so Xmas day will still hold some surprises, plus the fact that my parents still buy me a few presents (books/DVDs/CDs) that I didn't ask for and they just think I might like. This is something I am very grateful for, it means I don't just get things that I've wanted for a while anyway, and some of my best presents have been "risky" choices from parents.

The joke is soooooo easy (2, Funny)

gbulmash (688770) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227486)

Perfect gift for your favorite gamer... get them a life!

Sorry, but when you give someone a straight line like that, it is unfair to expect them to resist.

- Greg

Re:The joke is soooooo easy (1)

Mister Impressive (875697) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227609)

Perfect gift for your favorite gamer... get them a life!

I'm too cheap to buy it, can you post a .torrent for it?

Sims (not Michael) (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228400)

I'm too cheap to buy [a life], can you post a .torrent for it?

get a life on the pirate bay [thepiratebay.org] - use at your own risk

Re:The joke is soooooo easy (1)

ScottCooperDotNet (929575) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228005)

But I started with 5 of them!

Marketers just trying to attract more suckers... (4, Insightful)

Chaffar (670874) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227488)

There's no way to ask, "If I buy you a game, what game would you want?" without your gamer being able to make an educated guess about what you're planning on doing with the information. There's no faster way to ruin a surprise.

And why would that be a problem? People who aren't gamers cannot understand that our game preferences aren't only based on the quality of the game itself. A game might get rave reviews, and fit in my favorite genre, but I might not buy it. I just am not interested.

The best example I have is Shogun:Total War/Crusader:TW. I loved the first one, played it to death, but I didn't even consider for one second buying Crusader. I wasn't interested. Even though the genre/quality/publisher is the same, I liked the first one because I'm an anime junkie and love anything with sociopaths running around with on horses with Katanas, "Crusader" just didn't work out for me.

Just ask me what I want... screw the surprise, at least you won't end up having paid for a game that I don't want/need.

Re:Marketers just trying to attract more suckers.. (1)

xMonkey (154829) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227513)

That's exactly what I was thinking, just ask.

It's not like the question "Hey, what do you want for Christmas?" is some wierd thing. People ask it all the time.

Re:Marketers just trying to attract more suckers.. (1)

mobets (101759) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228036)

*shrug* I don't know

Re:Marketers just trying to attract more suckers.. (1)

truedfx (802492) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227608)

Just ask me what I want... screw the surprise, at least you won't end up having paid for a game that I don't want/need.

This is why for my birthday I got a wrapped game. If I didn't like it, I could just return it.

Re:Marketers just trying to attract more suckers.. (1)

Eivind (15695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227715)

It's not that much of a surprise that a partner/parent/whatever are considering buying you a present for christmas anyway. If you're actually in regular touch with someone it's mostly not that hard to guess what they would like, even when it comes to games.

Sure, occasionally you'll miss out, happens with books, movies, cds or similar (also popular gifts) too, but it's not that big a deal, furthermore usually wrong games can be swapped-in, assuming they're unopened, or failing that at the least partially recovered on Ebay.

It's not hard to me to guess (allthough I've never specifically asked) that my wife would like Sly 3, or Shadowhearts Covenant, or any Jak & Daxter game she doesn't already own for Christmas. For *new* series, stuff I ain't seen her play, its triciker, still, a general knowledge of what *type* of games and what type of setting she likes lets me make good guesses.

A not-too-complicated RPG with swords in it, say StarOcean would probably work well. A star-wars game is rigth out.

If you don't know enough about games or the person you're buying for to know what a "RPG" is, or if the game you're buying is set in the 1700s or the 3000, then I don't think it's such a good idea to buy it.

It's nothing specific about games btw, I also wouldn't buy a book, a cd, a movie or a piece of clothing without having some more specific idea what the person wants. It's not as if the 13 year old hoping for Harry Potter will be all that satisfied with Kafka. (probably not anyway)

Missing an awful lot of titles (1)

Hakubi_Washu (594267) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227493)

The article includes a list of titles to compare the gamers collection to, stating that if he/she has none of them, they probably don't have a taste and you can buy anything, since the'll probably not notice the difference. Sadly, I appear to have no taste :-D These types of games I think are missing (some probably because their list seems to target teenagers and aims to only include ESRB "right" games, still I was amazed not to find a single one of these):
Adventure Games (the Myst series, LucasArts, Sierra, simply put, there are none on the list)
FPSes (Half-Life, Doom, FEAR, System Shock, again none are on the list at all)
MMOs (WoW, EVE, you guessed right, none)

It would'nt hurt to include a warning about PC vs. console as well, I've seen clueless grandparents mix those things up...

Re:Missing an awful lot of titles (1)

Kredal (566494) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227504)

If I'm not mistaken, and I might be, Every one of those titles on the list was for the Gamecube.

Re:Missing an awful lot of titles (1)

Hakubi_Washu (594267) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227533)

Well, I did notice the nintendo. subdomain, but since the article claims "gamers", not "Nintendo Gamcube gamers", I still felt free to criticise that...

Social Engineering. (5, Insightful)

xMonkey (154829) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227509)

How about just asking them what they want?

Or, start a conversation with them about games, ya know actually talk to them, and they'll eventually volunteer the information.

No need for a covert operation.

notice this was in the NINTENDO section? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227526)

notice this was in the NINTENDO section? so that's why he's not delving into which console the gamer has, or console vs. PC or anything like that. And what's with the list? I glazed over it, but it seems like it's old...NFL/NHL2k3????

Re:notice this was in the NINTENDO section? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228190)

Notice that all the games on the list were Nintendo games? I guess it was just too troublesome to make a list that covers PC games and all consoles...

Charlie's Angles (1)

Moses_Gunn (778857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227547)

Edwin A. Abbott's classic tale of interdimensional hot, crimefighting chicks.

Re:Charlie's Angles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227709)

For those in the dark... Flatland. Readily available on project gutenberg, but somebody near me is getting a nice edition for christmas, now that I've been reminded of that.

Cheers, parent

Charlie's Angles (4, Funny)

mysticwhiskey (569750) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227557)

Charlies Angles? - I know they're (a)cute, but the reference is a little obtuse. ;)

Re:Charlie's Angles (3, Funny)

metricmusic (766303) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227735)

I'm inclined to think the same.

More like (2, Funny)

d0s (550629) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227575)

"Christmas shopping for the 12 year old gamer with ADD"

NGC haters (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227580)

the one who busts on the GC is the one who can't spell angels in their submission. makes sense.... go back to your m$ xbox!

Offline T-Shirts (1)

WotanKhan (150429) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227589)

Well, I generally refrain from blatantly commercial posts but in this case it's on topic and begging for it. If it's a PC gamer you are shopping for, esp. a MMORPG player, it would be hard to go wrong with a t-shirt from my girlfriend's Gaming and Geek T-Shirt shop [offlinetshirts.com] .

This has a body OR subject - moron. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227592)

Gamers have a life?

Reminds me of something... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227661)

Slashdot posting for a beginner: 1. Write a useless article about something everything already knows 2. Go to ./ 3. ??? 4. Post it!!!

The article gave proper algorithm for me (1)

JollyFinn (267972) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227667)

CIV I
CIV II,
CIV III,
alpha centaur,
Master of Orion
Master Of Orion II
Master Of Orion III
Stars!
Dungeonmaster II

Sure I have no taste since none of my games are on the list, so please pick any game, I'm probably happy with ANY random game that a relative throws at me.

DN4eva! (4, Funny)

metricmusic (766303) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227721)

I give my friends a gift voucher each for Duke Nukem Forever when it comes out, expiring 24th Dec the next year. I've been giving them the same voucher for close to 10 years now.

Get them a better video card (1)

Tsagadai (922574) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227763)

You can never have one too good and it's what every gamer, myself included, actually wants. In some shocking cases absolutely requires to play the games from last Christmas. :(

Re:Get them a better video card (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228368)

But get them a better PSU first, so the vid card doesn't blow their whole system.

Teach them to use eMule and BitTorrent (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14227794)

Don't give the fish. Teach'em how to fish for themselves :-)

That's the best present: knowledge for an endless supply of games.

If you want something to go with the eMule tutorial, give'em a 100mbit connection.

guy who wrote the article is crazy (1)

whitesaint (900065) | more than 8 years ago | (#14227822)

what the hell. This has got to be the stupidest article i've ever read. He's talking about like he's about to go to war, not buying a freakin videogame. He may be using smart vocabulary and is a good writer, but what he is talking about makes no sense what so ever.

the best way to shop for a gamer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228066)

is to buy them a gift card, or give them money. Games are personal.

hardware ideas (1)

cojsl (694820) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228203)

A colleague recently asked what his gamer son might want. As I had previously helped them purchase a good video card for him, I suggested other hardware options- RAM, a ~$40 OEM Audigy 2 sound card to take some load off the CPU, a Logitech G5 mouse, and surround headphones.

Not what I was expecting (1)

PieSquared (867490) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228319)

As I read the Article, I saw that there would be lists showing games related to those already owned by the person in question. Naturally, I assumed that they would be split into categories, like sports, FPS, RPG, exe. Boy was I surprised to find that all the games were for Gamecube. I guess Guildwars, World of Warcraft, and other mmorpg don't make the list, along with every civilization builder ever made, including CIV IV, something I wouldn't mind for Christmas. If someone actually follows the instructions from this article, I suspect that they will be baffled when they find that most of the games owned by their gamer don't exist. Also, as others have pointed out, it doesn't even mention what counsel it's for... I have Ocarina of Time for N-64, and I surely wouldn't want The Wind Waker for Gamecube, seeing as I don't have one. I also suspect that I wouldn't want Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 if I had Tony Hawk's Underground. They fail to mention any order what so ever. In conclusion, this article is throughly useless: it skips 90% of games, including whole genres, and what it does go over it doesn't go over in enough detail. I feel sorry for any gamer who's relatives read this. Oh, and if you suspect someone you know of believing something like this, just give them a list. You'll know if they are following it by the smoke bomb (dead giveaway).

Usenet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14228442)

Fuck giving more of your hard-earned money to the greedy gaming publishers. It's only bits anyway. Instead, give them a Usenet subscription (Easynews or Supernews), a DVD burner if they don't have one, and a modchip for their system of choice.

Nope. Wouldn't work for me. (2, Insightful)

FlyByPC (841016) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228482)

...but then again, I'm probably not considered a typical "gamer."

My collection is pretty much Flight Simulator, Train Simulator, Syberia (I and II), the Myst series, various Chess games, and old-school DOS games such as Stunts and Tetris.

Why does everyone assume that all gamers either want to play a sports-related game or kill something? (OK, so judging from the titles available in the stores and the video games in the arcades, most of them do, but not all.)

A useful trick (3, Insightful)

Ellen Spertus (31819) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228643)

A useful trick for finding out what someone would like as a present is to ask him to go shopping with you for presents for other people, then see what he shows interest in. A clever boyfriend did that with me.

Something simpler would be to ask your friend for advice on buying games for someone else. Your friend will end up volunteering what games he has, what's new and hot, what he thinks is cool, etc.

Not a bad article (1)

Snowspinner (627098) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228737)

Not a bad article on the whole, though I find some of the lists a bit weird - I don't quite get the Pikmin/Sims connection, and in gameplay Eternal Darkness is closer to Zelda than Resident Evil - zombie games are not a homogenous form. I also question the sports section, with its lack of warning about going backwards, and note that including Crystal Chronicles on a list for non-expert shoppers is an invitation to a total fuckup.

But basically a good methodology, and one that should be extended more sensibly.

New Games? Ehhh.. (1)

IAstudent (919232) | more than 8 years ago | (#14228790)

I'm both a PC and console gamer. Just this month I asked my uncle for a Playstation 2. I know it's about 5 years old, but seeing how long its been around, maybe this is the year I'll get one.

I've grown up playing yesteryear console and PC games. The most advanced console I have is a PS1 I got 3 years ago and that's currently keeping me busy with Final Fantasy Tactics and Resident Evil. I got a PC in my room with windoze/SuSE 9.3 that's just good enough to run Starcraft and Baldur's Gate, and my mom's PC in the living room that I don't play anything newer than ET or CoD1 on it.

I've survived with classics and older games and I bet other gamers have or will too. The moral of all this: sometimes it pays to get them an older game that they might have fun with. You do a little research to how much of a fanbase many of these older games still have and you know you'll have chosen a suitable classic.

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