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Review of WidowPC Sting 917 Gaming Laptop

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the i've-had-portables-smaller-than-the-power-cube dept.

Portables 276

It is absolutely gigantic. I've never had a laptop this giant. It is huge both in terms of dimensions, weight, and specs. The resolution of this screen is larger than all but one of my desktops. It has more disk space on it's two (yes two) hard drives than any laptop and almost any desktop. It has an honest to god numeric keypad, but it's sitting on my lap. It's the WidowPC Sting 917 and I put it through it's paces, using it as my primary gaming machine for a month. And I write about it below.

Let me start by offering some perspective: most of my gaming is sadly done on a Mac. I have no Mac capable to truly running most modern video games. I always turn the video settings down to just below pathetic, and even then I'm fortunate to get tolerably smooth video. It's just something you sort of learn to accept when you have a Mac. Every game I play on it is just a little short of steller when compared to running on a PC. But my newest Windows capable machine is 3 years old, and a joke by today's standards.

This machine came well equipped: A 3.66ghz P4 w/ 2MB of L2 Cache, 1 gig of 533MHz DDR2 RAM, an Nvidia 6800 Ultra w/ 256MB ram, and not one, but TWO drives, a 60gb 7200 RPM for the OS, and a 100 GB 5400 RPM drive for games. It came in minimal packaging- inside the box was little more than a laptop bag containing the manuals and a few cables. Which is good because all that bloat distracts me from my primary mission: It installed my Warcrack in moments and patched up in probably half the time I was expecting it to take.

With that I hoisted the gigantic beast upon my lap, connected my mouse and began to play. Glorious, lickabley smooth graphics. I turned on every single graphics option and restarted the game, only to discover that there was a level of graphical detail in this game that I didn't know existed. Frames never dropped. Capital cities ceased being slide shows and turned into the bustling metropolis of activity that they are meant to be. 15 man boss fights became liquid fast. In short, having real hardware made my favorite game more fun to play. I'd also like to think it made me a better player, but that might be pushing it.

Likewise the audio gave me a surprising thrill. Walking into rooms and hearing acoustic affects. Voices echoing off walls really give spaces a powerful sense of space. The speakers on this machine are great for laptops. Sure your home stereo sounds better. Hell I bet $50 PC speakers sound better, but for built-ins, it was quite nice.

This new gaming experience does not come without tradeoffs. The first thing you will immediately notice about this monster is the screen. Besides having a 1900x1200 resolution screen, it is incredibly shiny. Frusteratingly so. I found myself closing drapes, turning off lights, and even after that, when I entered a dark room, I'd see my reflection shining back at me. Maybe this is simply a personal preference, but I really struggled to see details in dark scenes. I had to throw the gamma settings way up and sacrifice any contrast to see certain things without straining my eye. This might be the single biggest flaw in the machine.

Next up is weight. This thing is heavy. Everyone I showed this machine to was asked to pick it up. No really, I'd say: pick it up. They'd look at me cockeyed and then comply. Without fail they were surprised at the density of this beast. It was kind of a strange experience, watching people lift and then realize that this thing weighed like 20-30% more than you expect. The website says that this thing weighs 11lbs but it sure felt like more.

The thing is huge. It came with a cheapy little case that fit the laptop quite snuggly, but no other bag in my house came close to carrying it. And I've had some big machines over the years. You should expect to need a custom bag. I never hauled this machine through an airport, but I imagine it would suck wipping this out in security. Even the power cube is gigantic. I've actually had handheld computers about the same size as this thing's power cube.

Also worth noting is heat. There is a giant fan on the left hand side that really does an impressive job of moving the heat outside of the case. And onto whatever is sitting next to you. Let's just say my cats were not so excited to sleep next to me. I've used laptops that were physically uncomfortably hot on the lap, and this machine never got to that point. Instead, it simply would turn off. In the middle of the game. No warning. Very unpleasant. I borrowed a little mini lap desk and then there were no heat problems, provided I left the fans completely unobstructed, and used the machine only on a hard flat surface.

With this giant machine comes a full assortment of ports. And not the miniature custom ports some vendors pass off, but rather full sized real ports without stupid dongles to lose. Of course, since bluetooth and 802.11 is built in, the only port you hopefully will need is power.

The short and long of this machine is that it is heavy and hot. The base model costs $2700 but as I reviewed it, it was more like $3200. And this is one laptop that probably shouldn't be used on your lap: the weight, heat, and random freeze-ups when given improper breathing room pretty well kill that. But if you have the cash to spare, this is a sweet machine. It plays games as well as most any desktop I've seen. It added a level of playability to my favorite game. It has the stones to handle the heaviest 3D games of today, and will likely be able to play the cutting edge games for several weeks into the future. I know most people can't afford a machine like this... but if you can, you'll definitely be envied by your friends next time you haul it out at a LAN party... it's a hell of a lot sexier than lugging around a monitor and a mini-atx based machine. I'm sad to let the review unit go back to WidowPC.

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Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. (4, Insightful)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246458)

Did I toggle off slashvertisements?

Sing along! (0, Offtopic)

Southpaw018 (793465) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246461)

*sings* Ohhhhhhh,
If you want it to be possessive,
It's just "I-T-S."
But if it's supposed to be a contraction then it's "I-T-apostrophe-S."
...scalawag.

Re:Sing along! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246515)

Jeez, I guess no one watches Strong Bad emails [homestarrunner.com] anymore.

Re:Sing along! (1)

ThosLives (686517) | more than 8 years ago | (#14247044)

Not an email, but:

Re:Sing along! (1)

doorbender (146144) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246890)

in re to your sig. to participate in a thread that one has moderated one must post as AC..... or choose only to moderate discussions one does not care to comment on.

Seriously... (-1, Flamebait)

blue1 (878449) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246471)

...why?

Re:Seriously... (3, Interesting)

Generic Guy (678542) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246753)

Seriously... why?

LAN parties! While I certainly wouldn't call it a laptop it is certainly more portable than some of the rigs I've seen with carrying straps wrapped around them. A built-in screen is much nicer than lugging a heavy CRT around with you, too.

Aside from the gaming aspect, it would still be nice to have a fairly heavy-duty station for 'regular work' which you can take from site to site. Again, you're not going to get much use from the battery, but anywhere you can sit and plug-in would be fine. The $3200 price is a little offputting, but I suppose that's the price you pay (pun intended) for the convenience of a portable game-capable workstation.

Re:Seriously... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14247005)

While this is a short one word question, I think it was valid. Certainly not flamebait.

Wheres the picture or links to another review (4, Insightful)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246473)

Its hard to see it without one.

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (5, Informative)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246514)

Don't worry, I found some pictures [widowpc.com]

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246598)

Can someone please explain to me why the VGA out on the back of the laptop is a 9 pin connector?!

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (2, Funny)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246628)

Because it's called a 'serial port'. The video out is the big white DVI port.

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (1)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246676)

In otherwords, it's mis-labled on the picture. Thats what happens when you let marketing make up sales images for a tech product

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (1)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246715)

Ahhh. I didn't see the labeled closeup pic there. I only saw the smaller pic under the specs list. Yup, someone fucked that up pretty bad...

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246743)

Next time I'll be sure to add "(rhetorical)" after my question. I found it odd that a laptop still includes a serial port since so many other manufacturers ditched them in favor of usb. It made me wonder if the picture was photoshopped or mislabeled.

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (1)

KozmoStevnNaut (630146) | more than 8 years ago | (#14247045)

It has a floppy drive, too... I guess it's a case of "hey, we've got some extra space here, let's stuff something in there"...

Re:Wheres the picture or links to another review (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246797)

In the picture, it also has an :AN port. Someone typoed LAN.

No link? (3, Insightful)

Donniedarkness (895066) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246502)

All that, and no link to the product?

Re:No link? (2, Informative)

GeekyMike (575177) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246565)

Link to product [widowpc.com]

*sigh* editing? (1, Funny)

entrex (580367) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246509)

I love reading a paragraph twice. It's always better the second time around.

Can you run the dnetc "benchmark"? (1, Interesting)

CyricZ (887944) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246533)

Can you run the most recent distributed.net [distributed.net] client for this system, and provide us with the typical keys/second value you obtain?

While not a perfect benchmark by any means, and highly dependent upon which core is used (ie. the algorithm and implementation), it is often a useful test to quantify how a machine performs.

Re:Can you run the dnetc "benchmark"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246899)

How the hell is dnetc a good test of performance for an intel processor? I bet you must think AMD's are twice as fast as intel processors? Well then again i guess that would make you fir right in with the slashdot crowd...

Here's what I don't understand... (5, Insightful)

general_re (8883) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246541)

With all that shit bolted on to the thing, battery life is surely going to be around eleven seconds once you unplug it - an assumption on my part that's surely confirmed by the fact that neither Taco nor the mfr's website bother to discuss battery time. So why not make it into a luggable computer? Leave off the battery, and shave that lardass down to merely ridiculous levels of heaviness instead of insanely heavy.

Re:Here's what I don't understand... (2, Interesting)

IAmTheDave (746256) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246631)

Leave off the battery, and shave that lardass down to merely ridiculous levels of heaviness instead of insanely heavy.

Truely, this is a "desktop replacement" - desktop specs, smaller footprint. I equate this to something like an iMac. But the up side is if you leave IN the battery, a brownout/blackout won't stop the machine, lose any work, or fry your innards. So this is a small-footprint desktop gaming PC with built-in battery backup. Sounds ok to me.

Re:Here's what I don't understand... (1)

general_re (8883) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246913)

Does that happen often enough to justify the price? That is, the last time we had an unexpected power cut here was two years ago, and that was while a hurricane was blowing through town, so it wasn't all that unexpected to begin with. Nor was I interested in doing much gaming at the time anyway :)

In any case, if it does happen that often - e.g., you live in California or some third-world country with an unreliable power grid - wouldn't you be better off getting a UPS? I've gotta believe that a SFF desktop with comparable specs + UPS is still less than this thing costs.

I dunno - maybe I'm alone on this, but I'm not getting any younger, and a top-of-the-line luggable without the cinderblock-like anchor of a battery sounds like the kind of thing my back would appreciate.

Re:Here's what I don't understand... (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246948)

Can you fold up your SFF PC, throw it into a bag, throw it into the car, and be able to fire it up at your next destination in under a minute?

That's the difference between buying a SFF and buying a desktop-replacement notebook. Low-end desktop replacements are CHEAP, too... acceptable specs for under $1000 from Dell, versus gamer specs for $3000 from this company.

Re:Here's what I don't understand... (1)

general_re (8883) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246983)

But that's my point - if that's what you're doing with the thing, you're never really using the battery in the first place, and hence you don't really need one, so therefore the battery is just deadweight. Leave it off and give your back a break :)

Re:Here's what I don't understand... (1)

kmartshopper (836454) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246784)

I would have to imagine that in testing they gave it to the average geek and asked them, "Is the battery life long enough for you?" And they all answered yes, because it was enough to make it to the kitchen for food and the bathroom for a pit stop.

On another note, I'm sure I could have powered my flux capacitor with all the power consumed by this laptop.

That doesn't make it unuseful. (1)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246950)

My laptop's battery system doesn't work, yet I still use it for movies and taking notes in class. I'd play games on it if it were fast enough.

Sure, you won't be able to use it in a car very long without an inverter, but you can use it anywhere else; including planes and trains with AC outlets.

Here's a link to the manufacturers page (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246546)

WindowPC Laptops [widowpc.com] .

Re:Here's a link to the manufacturers page (1)

dorkygeek (898295) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246690)

Except that you can't see through it, but rather have to to lose your husband first.

Game on! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246554)

And then they bitch about outsourcing and Microsoft sending jobs to China, and employers not wanting to pay them $100k/year to 'review' gaming machines.

"They took mah job". Sure, it is Microsoft's fault you are a lazy dumbass.

Ummm (1, Interesting)

platypussrex (594064) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246557)

Who is this person? Why did they get their free loaner (to advertise here perhaps), and why is there no link to anything useful about the machine?

Re:Ummm (3, Interesting)

garcia (6573) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246724)

Taco got it apparently and it wouldn't be much of an advertisement when it's not linked to from the main page I guess. Perhaps they left out the link by mistake or they did it purposefully so that people like you and I (who probably bitch when they have Slashvertisements) would complain when they don't blatantly "Slashvertise".

Re:Ummm (4, Funny)

Ford Prefect (8777) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246731)

Who is this person?

He's CmdrTaco, 'editor'-in-chief of this 'ere Slashdot.

Why did they get their free loaner (to advertise here perhaps)

He's CmdrTaco, 'editor'-in-chief of this 'ere Slashdot.

... and why is there no link to anything useful about the machine?

He's CmdrTaco, 'editor'-in-chief of this 'ere Slashdot. ;-)

Re:Ummm (1)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246857)

the best answer that can be given... : p

Re:Ummm (1)

loserMcloser (748327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246774)

Who is this person?

The story is not in italics, ie. it is not a quote from a user-submitted story -- it is written by the Slashdot editor who posted it, in this case CmdrTaco...

Re:Ummm (1)

IamGarageGuy 2 (687655) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246806)

Check the name.

Link to said laptop (5, Informative)

neosake (655724) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246560)

Here's a link [widowpc.com] to the sting 917.

I read teh review, was like ok, it's big, but what's inside?
Here it is:
  • Choice of nVidia 7800 GTX, ATI x800 , or nVidia Quadro 1400 video cards with 256MB DDR3 memory
  • Intel Desktop Pentium 4 600 Series Extreme Edition CPU with 2MB L2 Cache
  • 17 inch 1900 x 1200 WUXGA+ LCD with ClearView SuperBrite Technology
  • PCI-Express graphics technology
  • Apacer 533Mhz Dual Channel DDR2 RAM
  • Fujitsu SATA and Ultra ATA drives with commanding queuing
  • New 600 series 64 bit P4 w/ 2MB cache
  • Phoenix BIOS
  • Full size keyboard
  • Fully user upgradeable video & CPU
  • Full desktop CPU combined with incredibly fast graphics power
  • More powerful than most desktops
  • TV tuner with remote available

Re:Link to said laptop (1)

HaydnH (877214) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246679)

Phoenix BIOS

Isn't it the phoenix bios laptops that are a rpita with linux re: acpi etc?

Price! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246704)

Max out all the options and it costs $7233.00!!!

Unrealistic I know but possible.

Re:Link to said laptop (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246862)

A 17" widescreen with 1900x1200 res? That's not amazing resolution. That's normal. I'm not bragging, but my laptop 15.4" widescreen and it's resolution is 1920x1200. My last laptop was a normal 15.4" and it's res was 1600x1200.

I'll grant that that laptop has a few nice bells and whistles, but nothing Alienware or even the Dell XPS's don't offer. (yeah, both my laptops are/were from Dell).

Re:Link to said laptop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246880)

Wonder how Taco got a 6800U instead of a 7800GTX.

Off the Mark (4, Insightful)

Oculus Habent (562837) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246569)

"Laptop" is not a valid term for this product, as he mentions in his review. It can be called "portable", but it would not be advisable to place this twelve-pound heat-sterilizer on your lap. Taco mentions it randomly shutting off due to heat.

That said, who has a lap big enough for it? Let me give you the key points:

Dimensions: 15.6"(W) x 11.7"(D) x 1.95"(H)
Weight: 11.3 lbs. with Battery

That is almost the size of two reams of paper .

Product Link [widowpc.com] for reference.

Re:Off the Mark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246762)

Correction: almost the size of two reams of paper placed side-by-side.

Re:Off the Mark (1)

AnswerIs42 (622520) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246765)

I see this more for a gamer that goes to a lot of Lan Parties... easier to take this than your desktop, monitor, keyboard, mouse, power cords, network cables.....

Other than that... a paperweight you spent WAY too much for.

"Osbourne One" portability (1)

ianscot (591483) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246870)

No question, "laptop" isn't the right term. "Suitcase," more like.

Sure seems like you'd use this almost exclusively for the LAN party circuit. It's pitched at the niche market of gamers too. I guess we're sick of toting our cables and whatnot around by now.

Re:Off the Mark (1)

70Bang (805280) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246895)



It is the size of a ream of paper - think 11"x14" paper, then the height.

For the youngsters in the group, would anyone care to explain what happened when Compaq tried to do this (hint the first time they went belly-up?) Granted, those things were (35?) lbs, but the concept is the same.

Can you imagine trying to get that thing through TSA?

"Sir, what is this?" "A laptop." "I've seen laptops. I know what laptops look like. What the #$*#$# is this thing?"

Go grab an inverter from ThinkGeek and plug it (the inverter) into your car. I think the car would start crying if it saw what you were going to connect to it. And you're supposed to be able to run refrigerators on those things.


steller! w00t! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246570)

good thing ./ has such good editors

Made by Clevo (5, Informative)

the_cowgod (133070) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246573)

Looks like this machine is manufactured by Clevo [clevo.com.tw] , the Clevo D900T [clevo.com.tw] ... It's also sold by Alienware (Alienware Area-51 m7700 [alienware.com] ) and probably a few other vendors

Re:Made by Clevo (1)

dkuntz (220364) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246746)

Yep.. it's Alienware's "Unique" laptop case, as well as Sager's, and a few others. Sager and Alienware let you do better on the drives though...best option dual 100meg 7200 SATA, in RAID0 format (you can do dual 120s, but they're only 5400).

Re:Made by Clevo (2, Informative)

Rinisari (521266) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246798)

You can get one of these through PC Torque [pctorque.com] for under $3,000. It's also a Sager 9890 [pctorque.com] .

Re:Made by Clevo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246827)

I believe Sagar is the actual manufacturer.

http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.html [sagernotebook.com]

I've had one since May and have had no issues. From what I've read though, don't put too much in em (drive wise), else it gets a little stuffy in there and'll overheat. I have had no issues overheating (although some people do) even at E3 with the power was shut off and we had no AC in our hot ass room. Just keep it on a clean table with space and you'll be fine.

The Definition Of.... (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246577)

...a waste of money. Here's one player that never wins at monopoly!

Seriously, wait 18 months and the price of this rig drops by 50%. Until then, I'm quite content to play in 1024x768 at 60Hz with medium textures; and you know, it doesn't bother me in the least.

See you in the land of the lagless low ping times!

About that name (1)

Alwin Henseler (640539) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246591)

WidowPC ?

Why? Because it might turn wifes into 'computer-widows' ? (Just in case that term sounds unfamiliar: referring to a wife/girlfriend who feels like her man has left her, because he's sitting behind his machine all the time, not paying much attention to her anymore...)

I used a laptop for gaming until I got serious. (3, Interesting)

xutopia (469129) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246592)

This xmas I'm switching to desktop. I've ordered parts and will be building a very nice rig for gaming. The reasons?

- more power
- less neck sores (adjustable height monitor)
- bigger monitor
- cheaper than getting something equivalent in laptop form

The only downside is that I love laptop keyboards. If anyone knew of a place where I could buy a plugable USB keyboard the size and shape similar to what you would find on a laptop it would make me really happy for xmas.

Re:I used a laptop for gaming until I got serious. (3, Informative)

Tucan (60206) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246687)

The Logitech DiNovo [logitech.com] is the right size and has an excellent feel, but it's wireless. Perhaps you can hold out for the Optimus [artlebedev.com] ?

Re:I used a laptop for gaming until I got serious. (1)

fightzombies (876201) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246727)

IBM makes a keyboard that has the ThinkPad pointing device and buttons built in. I don't know how the dimensions stack because, well, I don't own a ThinkPad.

Re:I used a laptop for gaming until I got serious. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246779)

Another option is check out the USB keyboards design for the PS2. They are full function and the same size and feel of laptop keyboards! Enjoy!.

Some laptop-sized keyboards (1)

WidescreenFreak (830043) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246803)

Here are some through NewEgg. We use some of the keyboards below at work for our Operations group. They take some getting used to if you're used to a full-sized keyboard, but we don't have any quality issues with them so far. And the prices aren't that bad either. You can get a full list by going to the Keyboards sub-section then doing a search for all keyboards with a "Mini" design style.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82 E16823166015 [newegg.com]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82 E16823166005 [newegg.com]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82 E16823192002 [newegg.com]

I'm sure that other on-line and retail stores will have a number of these as well. I usually buy all of my stuff from NewEgg, so that's the first place I went to.

Re:I used a laptop for gaming until I got serious. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246878)

Obsessed with laptop keyboards? First the upscale site
http://www-604.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/C ategoryDisplay?storeId=10000036&catalogId=-36&lang Id=36&categoryId=13865533 [ibm.com]

The one that ends in 9490 looks like it was almost ripped out of a Thinkpad.

But even the local PC stores are a good source for HappyHacker wannabe small compact form USB keyboards. I also check out eBay just to see what the others are selling.

See them here (3, Informative)

eyepeepackets (33477) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246596)

At Sager:

http://www.sagernotebook.com/pages/web_specials.ht ml [sagernotebook.com]

At PCTorque:

http://www.pctorque.com/sager-laptops.php [pctorque.com]

A sample desktop screenshot, wsxga:

http://public.fotki.com/Marspoet/desktops/windowma ker02.html [fotki.com]

Place where people talk about them:

http://www.notebookforums.com/ [notebookforums.com]

Extra Paragraph (5, Funny)

inkdesign (7389) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246604)

To test the battery life, I took a trip on the bus to simulate an average commuter's experience. After 25 minutes, the laptop was dead. When the bus made it back to my stop, I discovered my legs had fallen asleep from the weight! I ended up riding the bus all day, unable to leave my seat, and too afraid to move the computer from my lap, knowing I could not give chase to any potential thief until my legs had recovered.

This may be the system's biggest flaw.

Re:Extra Paragraph (2, Insightful)

eyepeepackets (33477) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246656)

These are DTRs: Desk Top Replacements. They aren't meant to replace the light and mobile laptops. Think a full-powered desktop equivalent you can shove in your backpack and take to the LAN party or back and forth to work.

Comparing these to light and mobile laptops is a false comparison as that is not what these machines are made to be or do.

Cheers

 

Re:Extra Paragraph (2, Interesting)

daviddennis (10926) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246989)

He's probably comparing this with the 17" Apple PowerBook, and that's why he thinks the resolution on this laptop is high. The latest 17" PowerBook has 1600x1000 resolution, which is a step lower.

I'm getting the 17" PowerBook shortly, and I have to say its resolution looks pretty good. I don't think I could read type much smaller, so I'm not sure how much gain higher resolution gives you, and I'm a screen size junkie (I have a 23" Cinema Display which is 1920x1200, or the same resolution as the test laptop).

The 17" PowerBook is often thought of as a desktop replacement, even though the processor is obviously not as powerful as the G5. I used a 1ghz 15" PowerBook as my sole computer for a few months before I bought my G5, and performance was excellent for everything short of video special effects work.

So I think as a desktop replacement, the 17" PowerBook with its 4 hour battery life, large screen and 6 pound weight (half of the review unit) is a lot more practical, and at $2,500 it's even a bit cheaper.

But I'm sure the Black Widow's far better at gaming.

D

how can I... (1)

kaleposhobios (757438) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246608)

...get a review copy of one of these things for myself?

Sleek, sexy, and *small* would be envied! (4, Funny)

garcia (6573) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246624)

you'll definitely be envied by your friends next time you haul it out at a LAN party... it's a hell of a lot sexier than lugging around a monitor and a mini-atx based machine. I'm sad to let the review unit go back to WidowPC.

Personally, I would guess that your friends would be far more envious if you had a super sleek machine that wasn't noisy, hot, and HUGE but still offered good graphics, response, and the *possibily* of child rearing if you could get a girl.

That's me though.

Re:Sleek, sexy, and *small* would be envied! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246729)

That's me though.

Already taken into consideration. Dumbass.

I remember paying that for a 286 (1)

gasmonso (929871) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246627)

Sure its alot of money, but I'm sure many people here remember buying a 286 system when they first came out for 2-3 thousand with a monochrome display and a 10meg harddrive :) I still have a 286 laptop in the basement if anyone is interested. It only weighs like 15lb and has a battery life of 20 minutes ;)

http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]

Re:I remember paying that for a 286 (1)

Prophet of Nixon (842081) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246916)

Hey, I still have a Wang laptop from '87. Granted, I didn't buy it, I got it from a giant pile of old junk that was donated to a school I once worked for. Don't have a battery for it though.

Picture? (1)

fak3r (917687) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246634)

Does anyone else want to see a picture of this rig? I know I do...

Hmm.. no real information... (5, Insightful)

AnswerIs42 (622520) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246639)

Thanks /.!

How about some links to real reviews?

Such as:

http://laptopmag.com/Review/WidowPC-Sting-917.htm [laptopmag.com]
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-23446-x-1-3- 1 [gamespot.com]
and
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WidowPC+Sting +917+ [google.com]

While this is an interesting writeup... lack of REAL information AND LINKS makes this kinda pointless (At least he didn't link to his blog that has the same writeup)

And at the other end of the scale... (1)

pieterh (196118) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246699)

I am the proud owner of a Sony X505, which is not a power machine, but is so sexy that pulling it out in a meeting actually gives one credibility, and it runs cool and silent, with no fan. You can hear the disk humming a little, that's it.

The only downside to the X505 is that it's *very* costly. But if you buy one portable every three or four years, like me, and you take it everywhere you go, it's absolutely perfect.

It weighs just under 2lb, 800g, btw.

Yes, but does it run linux? (1)

edmicman (830206) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246944)

Or actually, can it run games? The reviewed laptop is crap, but the point was to run the latest games on a "laptop". You can get the smallest, sleekest whatever, but have fun with solitaire and your basic web games!

Why, o god why (1)

thegoogler (792786) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246702)

WHY did they use a pentium 4 in a laptop. thats seriously asking for the heat issues he described. its well known that those are the hottest chips arround.

i surfed arround widowpc's site, and it appears they dont offer any of there really huge laptops like this with pentium m's. just athlon 64 X2's and P4's, only the "lesser models" come with pentium M's which they themselves describe as "faster than the pentium 4!". someone dropped the ball.. hmm

Warcrack? (1)

Ankou (261125) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246705)

Okay it took me a while to figure out he was talking about World of Warcraft when he said Warcrack. I thought at first it was some game I was missing. Its a funny tagline, but call me an ass, can we be a little more professional about when we have reviews? That aside, I also dont see any physical measurements. How does this compare to the absolutly monstrous Alienware Area-51 series and Aurora m7700. Both of those are HUGE measuring about W)16.0"x(D)11.5"x(H)1.66" and (W)15.6"x(D)11.7"x(H)2.1" respectively. They also have "similar" specs including dual hard drive support and dual optical drive support.

Re:Warcrack? (1)

Ankou (261125) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246751)

Okay sorry to reply to myself I found the physical measurements in case people were interested in this WidowPC Sting 917:
Dimensions: 15.6"(W) x 11.7"(D) x 1.95"(H)

Wait for the AMD X2 dualcore version (2, Informative)

Brian Stretch (5304) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246709)

Wait for the AMD dualcore version [widowpc.com] . Less heat, WAY more performance. It's a standard Clevo D900K [amdboard.com] notebook, also sold by M-Tech [m-techlaptops.com] , VoodooPC [voodoopc.com] , Alienware [alienware.com] , etc.

Christmas Time Songs fill my mind... (4, Funny)

catdevnull (531283) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246711)

I bet that sumbitch gets hotter than a powerbook! The review mentioned that the heat was a problem when it wasn't on a desk. If you prefer "Laptop" play, perhaps it would be best to sing this song whilst playing:

Chestnuts Roasting While I Open Fire...

[slashdot readers boo and hiss...]

(go ahead...mod it down. I've got karma to burn)

worst... review... ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246737)

This is the worst review I've ever seen. CmdrTaco should have never allowed this. (Oh... wait...) WidowPC's website has much more information on it, specs, screenshots, and so on:
http://www.widowpc.com/2005/06/sting_917.php [widowpc.com]
Please CmdrTaco, do you really need to use Slashdot to show the world how happy you are with your new hardware?

Translation : (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246748)

> I put it through it's paces, using it as my primary gaming machine for a month. And I write about it below.

> most of my gaming is sadly done on a Mac. I have no Mac capable to truly running most modern video games.

> my newest Windows capable machine is 3 years old, and a joke by today's standards.

Where's the actual review ?

All you said was "this laptop is big and here are some features"

Taco, you're no gamer, stop pretending you are to look cool. If you had a "primary gaming machine" you'd talk about games, not how many hard disks it has.

Re:Translation : (1)

everphilski (877346) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246997)

Taco, you're no gamer, stop pretending you are to look cool.

Yup, agreed. WoW (or "warcrack" in some mad attempt to be "leet") doesn't make you a hardcore gamer.

-everphilski-

Sand blasting (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246769)

Besides having a 1900x1200 resolution screen, it is incredibly shiny. Frusteratingly so. I found myself closing drapes, turning off lights, and even after that, when I entered a dark room, I'd see my reflection shining back at me.

Nothing that a little sand blasting wouldn't fix...

I misread the title (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246780)

Am I the only one who read the title as "Review of WindowPC Sitting [since] 9/17: Gaming Laptop"

My first thought was "sitting since 9/17? I hope he patches it before playing any games"

Send it to school! (1)

GlassUser (190787) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246808)

Sure I may be a pedantic ass, but I find it incredibly difficult to read, let alone take seriously, blatant product placement with such poor grammar. I'll pass.

http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif [angryflower.com]

Welcome to the reality... (1)

Dputiger (561114) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246816)

Of Pentium 4 Prescott laptops. That system is physically incapable of handling the heat output of the CPU + graphics card combined (though I'd bet most of the problem lies with the chip itself). Check any reputable website for information on Prescott thermal output and you'll see why.

You'd have been much better served (at much lower temperatures) by a Pentium M. In terms of game performance, they tear Prescott apart clock-for-clock, they consume about half the power, and they dont' require a case the size of your desk.

But... (1)

Ed Avis (5917) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246843)

Does it run Linux?

No, really, the review doesn't make any mention of how easy it is to install say Fedora on the thing, or how much of the hardware is supported. I find this very surprising for Slashdot of all sites.

nice! (1)

digitallysick (922589) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246844)

www.widowpc.com , you see the dualcore laptop?? w00t!

With so much heat.. (1)

UberHoser (868520) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246846)

Did your naughty bits get melted off ?

Newflash !

CmdrTaco discovers new neutering process !

Film at eleven !

Learn to spell "its", darn it. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246849)

Spelling matters.

UK equivalent (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246860)

Rock Direct [rockdirect.com] do a machine with a very similar spec. There's a 64 X2 [rockdirect.com] version too. Similar price as well. I have an earler model from the same manufacturer and I'd recommend them.

No Mac? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246888)

Thats funny. My 6 year old PowerMac G4 runs Doom3 quite well with the settings turned all the way up.

1999 Sawtooth (AGP GRAPHICS).
2.0ghz PowerLogix G4
1gb PC 133 SDRAM
Radeon 9800 Pro 256mb Mac Edition
Lite-On DVD RW
WD400
WD1200
Tiger 10.4.3

30-40 FPS average with the settings turned on Ultra High. (No shadows).
40-50 FPS average with the settings turned on high at 1024x768.

I fail to see the marvel of a PC doing this when a 6 year old G4 can do it quite easily.
I havn't seen a 6 year old PC do this yet.

Please note... (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246894)

Please note that this "laptop" is NOT intended for travelling with. It is meant for taking to your friends for a LAN party or to the local Pro Gamer get together. It is probably easier to lug this thing in a Messenger Bag than an XPC + 17" LCD. So...before you say "IT IS BIGGER THAN MY DOGGGG!" please realize its purpose.

Taco's spelling skills.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246925)

are frusteratingly poor!

*ducks*

Shameless plug... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14246936)

At first I thought, wow this is kind of cool I want to see the pictures. Then I looked at the picture and came across the port diagram. I may be a little out of touch with hardware, but am pretty sure that isn't a 9-pin Male VGA Port [widowpc.com] .

Wonder what kind of perfomance I can get with serial video out. : )

Editor?! (1)

BarryNorton (778694) | more than 8 years ago | (#14246939)

Stellar, frustratingly and, if there were such a word lickably. Seriously, these are our editors?

battery time/heat rants (1)

k-sound (718684) | more than 8 years ago | (#14247018)

As usual most people will complain about the heat and battery time of this thing. The point is it's a game laptop, it's not intended to work on battery mode, placed on your lap while sitting in a couch or go war driving. It mainly is an easy to move game pc which comes in handy when you go to lan party's or want to play head-to-head at a friends house.

Besides in my experience all laptop's get fairly hot and don't last long on battery mode when playing games.

this being said, I would never buy a widow pc for the same reason I never buy a high-end desktop:
It's not worth the ridiculous amount of money because gaming is by far not the main use of my computer.
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