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Google to Buy Opera?

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the you-gotta-be-kidding-me dept.

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patro writes "Opera Watch writes Google is planning to buy the Opera browser. The source of the claim is Pierre Chappaz, the former president of Yahoo Europe. Google obviously can't buy Firefox, so Opera might be the next possible candidate." I can't begin to imagine why.

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Hey Google! (4, Funny)

bensafrickingenius (828123) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266950)

Are you interested in acquiring one aging, slightly flabby, fairly good tech? I'm cheap!

Re:Hey Google! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266970)

bensafrickingenius (828123)

Modest, too!

Google! Response (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267090)

Search Me.

Lets hope they open source it (2)

Organized Konfusion (700770) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266953)

It is the most fantastic browser out there.

Re:Lets hope they open source it (2, Insightful)

Seumas (6865) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267031)

Seriously, why would you choose Opera over Firefox? The whole forced banner ads thing kind of drove me away from it (not that I ever used it, but it kept me from ever using it again even). Opera may be a fine browser, but we already have a really good (and open) thing going on with Firefox. Additionally, I don't think you can get Opera in "just the browser" flavor. Last time I checked, it forced you to download this really crappy email client of theirs and address book and other things.

What I *REALLY* don't get is the logic behind this. "Since they can't by Mozilla, they'll buy Opera".

Um. What? Mozilla is open-sourced. You don't HAVE to buy it. Just take the code and do your own thing with it. DUH.

I have a hard time believing they're going to intentionally wedge the browser market even further rather than back more work and collaboration and progress behind the already great open source browser that we have. Perhaps they just intend to buy it, strip it for some good stuff that they'll donate to Mozilla and... I dunno. Whatever else.

Seriously though - seems like a waste of money when they can just branch off from Mozilla. You know, with that sort of being the whole POINT of the license that Mozilla is under.

Re:Lets hope they open source it (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267094)

Mod parent up..... I think it's been unfairly trollimified.

Re:Lets hope they open source it (5, Insightful)

Lisandro (799651) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267119)

It's a much more polished browser, IMHO. Firefox is great, but Opera still beats it in performance, resource usage and (most important) its terrific user interfase, IMHO. Once you get used to it, you just can't go back.

    Give it a whirl - it's completely, 100% free for desktop users now, as you can get your own key for free on Operas' site [opera.com] . Don't diss it because it's not OSS. I still think that if Opera were open source, 99% of the /. users that bash it now would be drooling all over it.

Re:Lets hope they open source it (2, Informative)

Metasquares (555685) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267134)

They recently removed the ads. Opera's not bad, but I prefer Firefox myself. I usually design sites with Opera in mind, though.

Hmmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266954)

Could it be world domination?

windows only? (5, Funny)

FictionPimp (712802) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266957)

If they do buy opera will they call it google browser beta and only let it be usable by windows?

This is stupid. (5, Interesting)

Spazntwich (208070) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266958)

Absurd rumor mongering at its best/worst. If Google really wanted to get into the browser arena, why wouldn't they just create their own based on the open (And most importantly, FREE) Gecko engine?

Re:This is stupid. (2, Insightful)

Denyer (717613) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267008)

Consider... what if Google bought the code, opened it and the improvements dovetailed into one browser? Each currently has its strengths.

Re:This is stupid. (1)

HappyEngineer (888000) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267020)

Perhaps they might do it in order to differentiate themselves? I personally prefer Opera to Mozilla or IE.

Re:This is stupid. (2, Interesting)

KimmoKM (833851) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267060)

Why Gecko? KHTML is free (LGPL) too and at least I find it faster and it supports standards better.

Re:This is stupid. (1)

Spazntwich (208070) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267139)

I just named it because it was the most popular I could think of as well as the first rendering engine that popped into my head.

Regardless, we're basically on the same page here. Why would Google shell out millions for a browser when so many cheaper opportunities are available? Even if Mozilla has some weaknesses compared to Opera, Google remains a publicly traded company and isn't going to just waste money. They'll go for whichever plan has the best return on their money (assuming they even have any interest in getting into the browser wars at the moment.)

Re:This is stupid. Maybe not (5, Insightful)

FatRatBastard (7583) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267159)

One word: cellphones.

While Google may have firefox to lean on / depend on to counter IE on the desktop, there's no equivalent on the cellphone/pda side of things (at least nothing that's being used by the big phone makers). Cellphones are going to become increasingly important in connecting to the internet, and Google probably wants to make sure they're not squeezed out by MS and PocketIE. Opera has a pretty good footprint in the PDA / Cellphone world. If Google wants them this will be why.

Re:This is stupid. (5, Funny)

Sfing_ter (99478) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267160)

Better yet, why not build it with the Quake3 engine ... /drool/ /salivate/

Re:This is stupid. (1)

wheany (460585) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267178)

Because Opera is fucking awesome.

My Favorite Thing (5, Funny)

sfontain (842406) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266959)

I can't begin to imagine why.

My favorite thing about Slashdot is that the article summaries are so objective.

Give CmdrTaco a break. (5, Funny)

Spazntwich (208070) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267027)

The man's been married for a while now. By this point, slashdot is the only thing left in his life over which he has any control. I say we all turn a blind eye to a little editorializing from the man, considering it's the only way he can feel like one anymore.

Re:My Favorite Thing (5, Funny)

hackstraw (262471) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267114)

My favorite thing about Slashdot is that the article summaries are so objective.

I can't begin to imagine why.

google opera.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266960)

expect some google jazz concerts aswell

Is Opera Google's doorway to beating Microsoft? (5, Insightful)

dada21 (163177) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266962)

Google is in a unique position to be a software developer that can create new applications before the market sees a need for them, and be a success at it. I believe they've found a great way to dismiss Microsoft back to the 90's and leave them in the dust.

Google is finding (in many ways) that they're running up against a standards wall. Gmail is very successful in part because of "AJAX" but you know there is more out there. Remember, these guys make software that is mostly server-hosted.

I can't imagine what google is working on next, but I have been contemplating their need for a "proof-of-concept" engine that would be considered a web browser to some, but in all reality it would be an operating system. This sub-operating system would be hardware abstracted from the real OS, but give Google the ability for power users to see what Google can do with data.

Opera makes sense to me. I wish they'd have more platforms supported (Pocket PC was surprisingly ignored until this past month) but it is very standards-oriented and gives Google a real opportunity to denounce Internet Explorer without coming out and saying it directly.

Google can't come out and make a new mini-OS "web browser" that supplies its own standards, so what they can do is take the browser that seems to follow the standards the closest, and adopt their applets to work perfectly in this standard browser. If IE can't run the software, Google can offer a reduced-capacity version of their applet for IE, and basically users who want the powerful one will dump IE for Google. That would be Google's first nail in Microsoft's coffin.

For anyone to think that Google doesn't have the desire to be the next Microsoft, you have to see how much money Google is burning to come up with the best and newest data aggregating applets. Microsoft can't keep up, and they're quickly losing the race to releasing new -- and NEEDED -- applications. Word, Excel, IE -- they're all old news. Google Earth, Google Maps, Google SMS, Google Blogsearch, they're all applications that can be enhanced even further if Google had a standard platform to write their uber-versions for. Opera can be that standard platform that extends Google from merely a website to becoming its own operating system.

Re:Is Opera Google's doorway to beating Microsoft? (2, Funny)

Rahga (13479) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267048)

"I can't imagine what google is working on next, but I have been contemplating their need for a "proof-of-concept" engine that would be considered a web browser to some, but in all reality it would be an operating system."

A web browser that hides the operating system and all the associated bagage? Wow, that's revolutionary [webtv.com] ! It's amazing that nobody though of it before, way to go google!

I know you're joking, but... (2, Informative)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267165)

You realize that WebTV was not originally a Microsoft product, don't you?

It was something they purchased.

Re:Is Opera Google's doorway to beating Microsoft? (1, Flamebait)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267089)

Google Earth, Google Maps, Google SMS, Google Blogsearch, they're all applications

They aren't applications, they are toys. Yeah they are neat to play with, but they aren't exactly something that businesses will use everyday for anything that matters.

Re:Is Opera Google's doorway to beating Microsoft? (2, Informative)

dada21 (163177) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267129)

Really? Google SMS has won me contracts in meetings where I discretely sent an SMS to 46645 for information I needed and had it back instantly. Google Earth helps track down where flights are for business people I'm picking up at the airport to wine and dine or work out problems with -- savings me hours over what the airlines report so I'm not stuck waiting. Google Maps integrates with my GPS and is way more accurate than any other online software I've ever used, and my PDA didn't have enough memory to store every map I needed.

Google's toys are quickly becoming the power-CEO's tools to distinguishing themselves from the CEO that has the cute little administrative assistant doing all their research work and getting back to them in an hour or two. I use Google to acquire the knowledge I need, instantly, which makes me much more worthwhile to my customers.

Google's ability to aggregate terabytes of information and prioritize them for what I need is amazing. They're seriously only limited by the interface, and I believe we'll see even more useful applications when Google has a standard interface they can program for.

Yeah, Microsoft sure is outdated (1)

Stickerboy (61554) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267109)

"For anyone to think that Google doesn't have the desire to be the next Microsoft, you have to see how much money Google is burning to come up with the best and newest data aggregating applets. Microsoft can't keep up, and they're quickly losing the race to releasing new -- and NEEDED -- applications. Word, Excel, IE -- they're all old news. Google Earth, Google Maps, Google SMS, Google Blogsearch, they're all applications that can be enhanced even further if Google had a standard platform to write their uber-versions for. Opera can be that standard platform that extends Google from merely a website to becoming its own operating system."

I'm sure most users (especially big corporations) will hate to be faced with a hard choice between running a lower functionality Google Earth and Blogsearch or ditching the obsolescent, passe Word and Excel for Google's own proprietary Opera-based platform! Decisions, decisions.... I'm sure Bill Gates is sweating bullets about that scenario...

Re:Yeah, Microsoft sure is outdated (1)

dada21 (163177) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267183)

I'm sure most users (especially big corporations) will hate to be faced with a hard choice between running a lower functionality Google Earth and Blogsearch or ditching the obsolescent, passe Word and Excel for Google's own proprietary Opera-based platform! Decisions, decisions.... I'm sure Bill Gates is sweating bullets about that scenario...

Google is heading in the direction that every corporation needs to head in -- taking the information of the world and prioritizing it for the specific user. They're working on it. If your company doesn't see the reason to take advantage of all the freely available information available, they're going to be left in the dust. Today we're living in a world where anyone can get online, and with the right tools, they can take all that information, sort it properly, and find key market analyses that even the best paid analysts couldn't figure out.

I ditched one of my businesses last year based on information I built from Google "searches." I was smart to do it when that market was at its top, as a year later the market is virtually wiped out of profitability. 10 years ago I'd have to perform an expensive market analysis and might never have seen it coming.

Today I use Google every day to analyze the products and services my companies sell. Sometimes I find some random blogger moaning about a product, other times I get "insider information" slipped on some random Asian news source that gives me an edge over my competition. I don't get fed crap from my suppliers or my employees anymore as I can tap the opinions of billions of consumers in moments.

How anyone can't see the power of Google in a corporate environment is beyond me. Information is priceless, and the ability to use information properly is more profitable than mining gold.

Re:Is Opera Google's doorway to beating Microsoft? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267157)

Mmm... good for Google. Best wishes smashing Microsoft in the 'things we give away for free' segment where it will really hurt them.

Googlemaps in the goose to lay the golden egg. Forget MS Office (at hundreds of dollars per license....)

Re:Is Opera Google's doorway to beating Microsoft? (1)

hackstraw (262471) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267164)

Is Opera Google's doorway to beating Microsoft?

So far they are in pretty much different markets.

Microsoft has OSes, office/productivity applications, and video games.

Google is a service to both paying and nonpaying people alike. Advertisers seem to like them (customers). "Regular" people seem to like them (noncustomers). Google also has stuff like mentioned.

I'm not sure if I want Google to be the next Microsoft, any more than I want Microsoft to be the current Microsoft.

obvious why (3, Insightful)

LetterRip (30937) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266964)

mobile market, opera dominates there - google would love to be on every mobile platform.

LetterRip

Re:obvious why (2, Funny)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266997)

Actually, google local already runs on a fair number of phones.

CONSPIRACY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266965)

Gogle = owned by bill gates! :o

In their favour... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266967)

...the red 'O' is already similar.

Wikipedia (5, Insightful)

interiot (50685) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266971)

C'mon, buy Wikipedia already. "Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful," and Wikipedia fits that goal better than Google Groups does.

Re:Wikipedia (1)

theurge14 (820596) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266998)

What, and make money off of my free contributions?

Re:Wikipedia (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267046)

Yeah, like IMDB [72.14.207.104] ...

Re:Wikipedia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267154)

Did you even bother to read that article yourself? The volunteers were given shares in the company, then the company was later sold to Amazon.

Re:Wikipedia (1)

interiot (50685) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267056)

Red Hat makes money indirectly off of GPL code. Why should that be any different from making money off of GFDL text [1] [wikipedia.org] (or usenet comments for that matter)? Not to mention that Wikipedia requires a lot of money [wikipedia.org] to keep hardware upgraded and such, and a benevolent company who has the resources to back it (even if they do make a little extra off the top) is a good solution. (not to menion that since your contributions are licensed under the GFDL, there are already several websites making advertising money, simply by copying wikipedia content to random other sites).

Re:Wikipedia (4, Insightful)

QuantumFTL (197300) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267103)

C'mon, buy Wikipedia already.

This is just speculation of course, but maybe Google is waiting to see where Wikipedia is going first? Wikipedia's doing just fine for google (through answers.com) as is - why spend extra money on something you can get for free?

Also, Wikipedia contains a massive amount of copyrighted content (mostly "fair use" images that have not been legally tested)... and some folks are trying to bring a class action suit against Wikipedia - does Google really want to open themselves up to more legal action?

I think it'd be smarter for Google to make some hefty donations and then reap secondary benefits, but with some nice legal isolation.

Re:Wikipedia (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267113)

Yes, please buy Wikipedia and give it a less stupid name.

Re:Wikipedia (1)

Seumas (6865) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267179)

No kidding. It's time for all the "wikimedia" projects to get a new name that makes more sense. You want it to be accessible to everyone and how do you say the name of the project without someone being confused and requiring an explanation of the "wiki" part?

Calling it "wikipedia" and "wiktionary" and so forth is a lot like calling the hardbound editions of encyclopedias "paperpedias". What the fuck is a paperpedia? I dunno. I guess it's a pedia that's on paper sort of the way a wikipedia is a pedia on wiki?

I mean . . . come on.

Buy Wikipedia? Easier to fork it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267186)

Surely forking the Wikipedia project would be far easier than buying it.


FRISTY PSOT!!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266973)

FRISTY PSOT!!!! Google can't buy these :D

Pump and Dump? (1)

R2.0 (532027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266975)

1) Talk up a Google buyout
2) Stock price increases
3) Insiders sell stock
4) PROFIT (for some...)

Re:Pump and Dump? (4, Funny)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267009)

1. Google buys out Opera
2. Google.com now viewable with Opera and Firefox only
3. M$ pay Google to have IE support for Google.com
4. Google reject M$
5. M$ counter offer
6. Repeat step 4 and 5... 50 times
7. Insane PROFIT!!

Re:Pump and Dump? (2, Insightful)

atari2600 (545988) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267082)

That's actually not a very logical line of thinking. If google.com is not viewable by IE, MS will blame google and ask users to use MSN search (Yes, MS is not sitting on their arses doing nothing about search). Also, please knock off the goddamn $ from the abbreviated Microsoft name - it's like the average 1990 slashdot geek is calling back for his witty abbreviation.

Re:Pump and Dump? (1)

PoorImpulseControl (805340) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267023)

LOL at your sig. That episode was almost as good as the one when the 'Phone cops' were after Johnny.

Re:Pump and Dump? (1)

w3bd4wg (938648) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267068)

With the recent lawsuit this may be true. These are some of the dangers with google coming out into the market. I would doubt google would be involved in this. I think the real goal is to take over the world.

Re:Pump and Dump? (1)

LoaTao (826152) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267096)

Completely excellent sig! Thanks for the smile.

Flying turkeys (1)

baomike (143457) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267107)

Don't tell the ones in the trees that they can't fly, it'll freak 'em out.

Re:Pump and Dump? No. (1)

JackL (39506) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267136)

Opera's founders had many chances to sell the company in the past and didn't. If you are thinking that maybe the price wasn't right before and that they went public to maximize the profit, I doubt that you would list on the Oslo stock exchange to do that.

I'm not saying that this rumor has no truth to it. If Google wants to get into the mobile market quickly, this is good way of doing it. But it is not a pump and dump by Operas' big shareholders.

Jack

Data Mining (2, Interesting)

Anti_Climax (447121) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266977)

So now they'll be able to track where we're going when it's not mentioned in our gmail or searched for through their search engine.

Could be interesting.

Re:Data Mining (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267074)

They already have a "dumb terminal" searching your email for keywords to base ads on. So, it'd be okay for them to do the same with your web surfing, right?

US Govm't: Hi Google, us again. You have that daily report for us on who's been to webpages with the words "terrorist", or "bomb" in them?

Because regardless of whether or not Google allows it's own employees to read the data collected, they'll roll over the second a subpoena demands they turn it over.

18th post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266980)

lol 18th post pwnzed

RUMOR: (2, Insightful)

ballsanya (596519) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266981)

rumor: n, Unverified information received from another; hearsay.

Obligatory Simpson's Reference (1)

Will2k_is_here (675262) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267025)

Well I have plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are *kinds* of evidence.

That's one way (2, Insightful)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266982)

That's one way to get the Google toolbar loaded on every browser shipped.

Google Getting Bigger (1)

blank89 (727548) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266983)

This is another example of google buying something out and making it much bigger than it was without google. Their production of this sort has dramatically increased in the past few months as it is.

A premonition? (5, Interesting)

Bananatree3 (872975) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266986)

It has been known for some time that google registered gbroswer.com [whois.sc] . Could this simply be the beginning of the Google Browser?

Dumb Move (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266988)

Opera has always been a piece of shit browser. This would be the first real boneheaded move by Google that I can think of. Other missteps, sure. But outright fuck-ups? No.

With the lack of support for Linux and this possibility now, Google you are flirting with disaster.

opera on linux (1)

baomike (143457) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267137)

I don't realize that I was not supported.
Does this mean I have to quit using it?

A Reason (1)

eyebits (649032) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266989)

One reason for Google buying a browser could be to develop capabilities to support more sophisticated web applications. This provides them with the power to help foster and develop standards.

Me neither (1)

chrisbtoo (41029) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266990)

Why would a company that prides itself on its ability to serve content to users in a well-crafted, platform-independent way want to buy a browser? Do they really need to compete with Microsoft in this way?

Someone enlighten me, please.

Re:Me neither (1)

BrK (39585) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267028)

One reason might be to make sure they always have a web browser that works with their stuff. It wouldn't be beyond Microsoft's tactics for them to suddenly add some "feature" to IE that suddenly makes all of Google's Cool Stuff stop working well.

Also, if Google can promote adoption of Opera as a solid replacement for IE, the result will be that Microsoft's dominance is reduced. This is a Good Thing.

Re:Me neither (1)

IANAAC (692242) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267049)

... a company that prides itself on its ability to serve content to users in a well-crafted, platform-independent way ...

That's really only true if you're talking about their search engine. Take a look at their actual applications and you will see that they are, indeed, platform-dependent.

Reasons to buy Opera? (2, Interesting)

shanen (462549) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266995)

It's a pretty good browser, they have a development team in place but in a sellable form, and it has some especial strengths for the high-growth pervasive market. More importantly, it actually has the potential to be a tactical threat to Microsoft, but as a relatively external unit, it could also be sold off if the tactic doesn't work.

gbrowser.com (5, Informative)

abscondment (672321) | more than 8 years ago | (#14266996)

A little WHOIS action:

WHOIS Record For
gbrowser.com


[snip]

Registrant:
Google Inc.
(DOM-1278108)
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway Mountain View
CA
94043 US


Domain Name: gbrowser.com


Registrar Name: Markmonitor.com
Registrar Whois: whois.markmonitor.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.markmonitor.com/ [markmonitor.com]

Administrative Contact:
DNS Admin
(NIC-1467103)
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway Mountain View
CA
94043 US
dns-admin@google.com +1.6502530000 Fax- +1.6506188571
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
DNS Admin
(NIC-1467103)
Google Inc.
1600 Amphitheatre Parkway Mountain View
CA
94043 US
dns-admin@google.com +1.6502530000 Fax- +1.6506188571

Created on..............: 2004-Apr-26.
Expires on..............: 2006-Apr-26.
Record last updated on..: 2005-Nov-09 15:09:25.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.ALLDOMAINS.COM
NS2.ALLDOMAINS.COM

Sure, this is old news... but is it coming to fruition?

Message to CmdrTaco (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14266999)

I can't begin to imagine why.

Taco, maybe that's why you and OSTG are where you are, and why Google is where they are. Do you think Google would buy Opera just on a whim?

In case anybody else forgot, CmdrTaco was also the first to pan the IPod, and look where that went.

The moral of the story is: whatever CmdrTaco thinks, bet the opposite to happen.

Why? (1, Informative)

nukem996 (624036) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267000)

Why would Google buy Opera? I understand they wont to compete with M$ but why not just contribute to Firefox? I know recently google just hired the lead GAIM developer to help with google talk, why wouldn't google do something similar and help firefox grow? Infact if you goto google they are pumping out many extensions [google.com] for firefox, I havnt seen anything for Opera. It seem that google is trying to help firefox.

Bad for Mozilla/Firefox? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267002)

Hmm, this could be somewhat problematic for Moz/FF. If you have swarms of users switching over to Google Browser, I would assume a fairly large percentage would come from the ranks of those who would have switch to FF. Overall for the browswer "wars", I think it would be good, because for the first time in ages, a browser other than IE would exist that has some amount of legitimacy with the corp crowd (deserved or not).

Good because... (2, Interesting)

Iscariot_ (166362) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267004)

Firefox 1.5 has really let me down. It's memory footprint is only slightly larger but what really irks me is that it is a processor hog. Not only that but there was a huge list of bugs they didn't knock out before launching 1.5, I'm not really sure why they chose to do this. (Before you say, "but there's always bugs", there were some serious UI bugs that should have been dealt with.) I'm back to running 1.0.7 until Firefox 1.5 can a nice point release but Opera is looking more and more tempting.

I'm scared that Firefox 2.0 will have twice the system requirments than the operating systems on which it runs which, imho, it shouldn't. :(

Makes sense to me. (2, Interesting)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267005)

This makes perfect sense to me. I think with all of the web services that google develops, they don't want to be inhibited by bugs in Microsoft's Internet Explorer. [slashdot.org] They could also get people to switch to Opera pretty easily, as most people already use the search engine, and all it would take is a small "download this to enable extra features" button.

I'm surprised they haven't done this already.

You're kidding, right? (5, Interesting)

rewt66 (738525) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267007)

I can't begin to imagine why.

You can't? I can...

Microsoft has announced an intention to kill Google. (All right, Ballmer said so to a guy who was leaving to go to Google. Same difference.) Microsoft has made some announcements of stuff to compete with Google. Microsoft also controls the most-used browser.

Add it all up, and I can sure see why Google might want to have a (better, but less popular) browser under their control...

then it won't be long before... (3, Funny)

Sfing_ter (99478) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267019)

Gubuntu, Googlinux, Googdriva, Googebian, Googepis, GoogleHat, Googell Desktop Linux oh god not...Googentoo!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Re:then it won't be long before... (1)

ClickOnThis (137803) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267116)

You forgot Glackware, GDE, Gnoppix, Gindriva...hey, anybody for a revival of Gggdrasil?

Re:then it won't be long before... (1)

ClickOnThis (137803) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267162)

, Gindriva...

Whoops, hit "submit" too quickly. I meant "Ginspire".

Hmmm ... gellodog, GopenGoffice, ...

I can think of several reasons (5, Interesting)

danmart (660791) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267030)

Reasons to buy Opera:
1. Opera is a fast browser with clean code. Fits with google quality requirements/desires.
2. Opera is closed source. Google can add secret sauce for tracking or search or ad related reasons.
3. Opera can be made into a product to compete with MS without giving away the source to competitors.

Re:I can think of several reasons (4, Insightful)

croddy (659025) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267130)

I'm curious. How can you know whether the code is clean, if it's closed source?

I can imagine (1)

Crudely_Indecent (739699) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267033)

So, you've got Google Desktop, Google Maps, Froogle, Google Adwords, Google Earth, Google Moon....why not GoOpera (heh)

How much integration could be made between browser and website if Google had control of both? Sure, their stuff would operate in other browsers, but there might be custom extensions that render only in their browser. On the other hand, they might use the browser to obtain usage statistics and word patterns from the browsers users...

This is an opportunity for Google to show the world now not-evil they are. I hope they do, I like Google, their colors are all pretty and stuff.

Where is Dr. Phil in all of this? (1)

chrismathewsjr (939149) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267034)

Is Dr. Phil a part of Oprah?

Google platform (1)

digidave (259925) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267037)

It'd be an interesting move in terms of Google having the client-side portion of their expanding platform. If they make it so other developers can build their own apps on top of the Google platform, Google can become the defacto "live" software vendor.

Want anti-virus? Use Kaspersky's Google app. Word Processor? Sun has Googlized Star Office. It sounds a lot like what MS is doing with MS Live. While I don't agree that it makes sense for MS, it does for Google.

However, Google must know that getting a browser deployed on many desktops is extremely difficult. They only need the browser if they want to customize the rendering with non-standard extensions. In this case, their low G-Opera market share will cripple their apps that require the non-standard stuff. If they don't want to add their own extensions then I don't see why building a custom Firefox browser isn't a better option for them since it still conforms to standards better than Opera (Acid2 notwithstanding).

This is slightly confusing. (2, Insightful)

gasmonso (929871) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267045)

Currently, Google has included Firefox in their Adsense referral program. Google is paying $1/click to convert users to Firefox. Why on Earth would they invest millions in that only to buy a competitor? Something stinks here.

http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]

Re:This is slightly confusing. (2, Interesting)

Synic (14430) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267067)

Yahoo Europe's word, not Google's. Yeaaahh their competitor is VERY reliable. :P

It's so obvious... (2, Funny)

oahazmatt (868057) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267058)

Clearly Google's intentions are similar to that of the plans for OpenOffice.

The world's first online web browser.

Seems to make sense (1)

Jonnty (910561) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267065)

I think it does, anyway. A nice codebase to work on for true control over 'the new platform.' They really seem to have this sorted. But I think, while they'll find it hard to convert the Firefox-type userbase over, they might be able to advertise for it in a similar way to the codebar.

Although, whether the large support they have from the geek population could be shattered if they try to oppose Firefox, particularly if they keep it closed source.

omg (1)

Premo_Maggot (864012) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267075)

Gbrowser here we come.

Other alternatives (1)

outZider (165286) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267097)

Opera will be a pricy buy, if the CEO is any indicator. Why not get in on the open WebCore project? It's still a light codebase compared to Gecko, and they would be furthering the proliferation of more open code.

At least aren't going to try to buy... (4, Funny)

jferris (908786) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267098)

Oprah. I hear that the feeding and makeup costs alone would even make Bill Gates blush.

microsoft to purchase real networks (1)

DarkClown (7673) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267106)

according to scott mcnealy, that is.

"I can't begin to imagine why." (1)

SpectreBlofeld (886224) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267118)

Is that sarcasm? It's one heckuva browser, that's why.

I don't think so..... (1)

ChrisGilliard (913445) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267124)

Google obviously can't buy Firefox, so Opera might be the next possible candidate.

Key word is 'might'. I can't believe this was turned into, 'Google is planning to buy Opera'. This guy is just speculating and I don't think it's good speculation either.

Browsers for cell phones? (2, Informative)

Lanboy (261506) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267131)

Opera's most unique product currently is thier small device browsers, currently the best browser available for palm and symbian.

Google can push new standards... (1)

sonofagunn (659927) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267144)

Google probably wishes that web standards would move at a faster pace so that they could write some better web apps. Having control of the best browser out there (it's better than Firefox, IMO) would give them a chance to implement emerging standards quickly and the other browsers would be forced to keep up.

Not likely (2, Insightful)

Bogtha (906264) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267149)

I don't really think this is likely, but I do take exception to this reasoning:

I must say that I find this very hard to believe; after all, Google recently hired some Mozilla/Firefox people, in addition to being an active supporter of the open source browser.

Remember when Apple hired a couple of Mozilla people? Everybody was saying that they were going to release a web browser based on Gecko. In the end, the fact that they were Mozilla people was a red herring, they were hired for their expertise in developing a browser, not their knowledge of Gecko specifically.

So no, I don't really see this happening, but that's mainly because Google don't need to buy Opera to accomplish their goals, not because they've hired a couple of Mozilla people. I think it's more likely that Google are partnering with Opera in the handheld market in some way, Opera's got a good position there and Google are expanding in that direction.

Mobile business? (2, Interesting)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267172)

I can't begin to imagine why.

I don't think Google will buy Opera just yet at least, especially considering Opera's denial in connection to this, but Opera has a much greater foothold than any Mozilla product in the mobile market, and it has earlier been rumored that Google is considering moving into the mobile business more. (actually, they already have with their free WiFi service, their online mobile-targeting services, etc)

summary incorrect (2, Insightful)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267173)

FTS: "The source of the claim is Pierre Chappaz, the former president of Yahoo Europe"

FTA: "Pierre Chappaz, the former president of Yahoo Europe, claims to have a source, whom he says is generally very well informed, who told him that Google is planning on buying the Opera web browser."

So someone tells someone something, and then that person tells someone else?

I admire the submitter for trying to make /. more relevant with breaking news, but this isn't news. It's idle speculation.

Also, Chappaz was president of Yahoo Europe for about one month before he submitted his resignation, for personal reasons. His total tenure as president of Yahoo Europe? Less than two months. Here's his blog, which includes the source for TFA. It's in French. And he states that he's guessing that Google might want to in order to compete with MS.ahref=http://www.blogger.com/profile/3848632rel =url2html-4514 [slashdot.org] http://www.blogger.com/profile/38486 32>

No Thanks (2, Interesting)

the computer guy nex (916959) | more than 8 years ago | (#14267177)

Google makes money from information that makes their Search Engine better. That is their business model, and everything they do will feed into this. Free Gmail (but all links scanned to populate search engine), Free Internet (but all patterns tracked), etc.

No way am I using a browser and letting Google know THAT much about me, especially if they require you to have a Google account to use.

fi8st post (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14267185)

ones in software big deal. Death the public eye: marketing surveys Trying to diisect a BSD box that
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