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Good Samaritans? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284793)

I know for a FACT that none of them are from Samaria!

cancel my subsc... oh wait, never mind. (-1, Flamebait)

yagu (721525) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284797)

Bill Gates amassed a fortune through ruthless and merciless and eventually illegal practices. That he has chosen to give some back, and I tip my hat to him for that, anc for all the good he is now doing I liken to the mafia giving ill-gotten gains to charities and somehow being anointed for that. It is misguided. Unfortunately, I have no subscription to Time to cancel.

Keep it in Perspective (4, Insightful)

mfh (56) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284829)

Bill Gates amassed a fortune through ruthless and merciless and eventually illegal practices.

For every illegal practice Bill's company has been accused of, there are at least a few practices that have helped bring computers and the internet to the masses. Not sure I would personally consider Bill Gates to be a good person, but you have to be a ruthless dictator in order to run a multi-national. When in Rome. Show me one CEO who can exist in *that* world, without holding true to the values of the Sith.

That said, much of Bill's contribution to the dark side of the force has sparked great strides for the light. Our enemies unite us, and there is no clearer enemy to Open Source than Bill Gates. Maybe he just wants us all working for free? Nah.

Re:cancel my subsc... oh wait, never mind. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284836)

He arguably robbed from the rich and gave to the poor...

Re:cancel my subsc... oh wait, never mind. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284898)

Why are the rich and powerful obsessed with fighting disease? I wonder why they don't feed these people rather than stick a syringe in their arms. I think all these foundations are probably just fronts for medical research groups with suspicious motives (race specific biological weapons, the choice of the new war generation). I know the IMF force female sterilisation programs in South America so countries can borrow from them and the IMF can "fix"(up :-) their economies. Ever wondered why the police in Brazil are quick to murder orphans? The IMF promotes and funds abortions in third world countries to again not cause major economic withdrawals.

If Bill is sincere then good luck to him, but feeding the third world should be of greater importance.

Check out Greg Palast's articles, he's been exposing the work of the IMF for years. Must be difficult being a legitimate journalist (who investigates and doesn't just read "news" off of a printer!!) at the BBC these days.
http://www.gregpalast.com/ [gregpalast.com]

This should prove... (3, Insightful)

DogDude (805747) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284800)

This should prove... once and for all, to the teeming masses of Slashdot kids, that people, by and large, DO NOT hate Microsoft and Bill Gates.

Re:This should prove... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284812)

When he gives away EVERYTHING he has gained through illegal business practices then I'll agree. Until then he's still a thieving little geek with no morals.

Re:This should prove... (2, Funny)

Secrity (742221) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284880)

They are in good company; Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and George W. Bush have also been Time's Man of the Year.

Re:This should prove... (0, Troll)

gvc (167165) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284909)

Well, sort of. Recall that Time has named Hitlter, Khomeni, Stalin, bin Laden and Nixon as person of the year.

Re:This should prove... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284922)

Why do you say that as if slashdot was different ?
I had the feeling that slashdot is full of microsoft customers and apologists ? But why they keep telling it isn't is beyond me.

Odd (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284960)

MS did not win the award. The gates did. Big difference.

In addition, the foundation was set up by Melinda, NOT bill. And she did it for marketing. I would say that it has paid off.

Well. (4, Insightful)

Winckle (870180) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284804)

As much as we dislike him, he does give an awful lot of money to charity, so well done Billy.
Of course the other argument is that, percentage wise he doesn't actually give that much...

Re:Well. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284857)

what is your basis for that? I say he does give a big percentage.

Re:Well. (1, Troll)

tius (455341) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284864)

Sorry, but the obscenely rich directing their "tax" dollars is not an act of altruism.

Re:Well. (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284937)

If it was just a tax dodge, then surely all the other millionaires would also give comparable amounts to charity. Larry Ellison is about as rich as Bill Gates, but only contributes a fraction as much to charity.

Re:Well. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284967)

OK, its not just a tax dodge. I'm sure a big part of it is trying to make him look like hes not scum.

If he wasn't doing it for the publicity, he'd donate anonymously.

Re:Well. (5, Insightful)

mumblestheclown (569987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284876)

Unless you can honestly claim to give a larger percentage of your salary to charity than bill gates has, then I encourage you to please enjoy a hearty slice of shut the hell up.

Or maybe Roman Abramovich is a model citizen, because, while he wastes his money on football teams, yachts, and whores, at least he hasn't made (gasp! horror!) a closed-source operating system? That's really what it's about, isn't it?

Re:Well. (1)

Winckle (870180) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284900)

Yes, I can honestly claim to give a percentage of my earnings to charity, but since I am in full-time education, and only have a small job to support my student life, the amount is not that much. Whether we can ascribe to my donations anymore value than Mr Gate's donations, is another discussion for another day.

Re:Well. (4, Insightful)

mumblestheclown (569987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284933)

Your initial point was that the size of his donation was not that large. Then, you proceed to make excuses why his is not bigger. So, his is bigger in both absolute and percentage terms. You also neglect to mention that a) the guy actually follows through where his money goes so that it is used wisely and b) that he has plans to basically give away EVERYTHING by the time he's gone.

I mean really. See beyond your jealousy and hatred of IE's "broken HTML" and other assorted technical-philosophical gripes for one minute.

Re:Well. (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284964)

Percentage of income doesn't really tell us anything. He could give away 99% of his salary, and still have more money than he could ever need. Not many of us could say live off that small a pproportion of our income. Even giving 5% would hurt the income of a lot of families.

Re:Well. (3, Interesting)

aszlej (886876) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284936)

Well, obviously you are wrong, because Bill Gates donated almost 60% of his wealth up to this day, and he said, that before he die, he'll donate 90%. So STFU with your stupid anti-ms comments and go do some research on the subject before you post.

BTW: All you guys hate Bill so much, but do you know how much Wal-Mart gave to charity? Just see the movie 'Wal-Mart - The high cost of Low Prices' where they actually compare Bill and Melinda's donations and donations from Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, truth is quite shocking :).

Re:Well. (1, Redundant)

QuietLagoon (813062) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284961)

he does give an awful lot of money to charity,

Relative to his vast wealth, he actually does not give a lot of money to charity, others contribute a far higher percentage than he does.

All that this latest "honor" shows is that when you obtain money illegally, it is OK so long as you give small portions of it to charity.

What most people do not know, is that there is extensive lobbying of Time magazine by the representatives of the person who wants to become Person of the Year. It is as much an influence-peddling award as anything else. Ditto for being knighted.

Have you noticed that Gates is getting a lot of honors recently, just as Microsoft seems to be having a lot of internal problems, and just before a year of significant product launches? Do you think it all might be related?

Accolades (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284806)

And why shouldn't he be?*

*I doubt the story is posted here so we can congradulate him.

Kudos (4, Insightful)

timmyf2371 (586051) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284808)

All too often we will critiscise Bill Gates for the actions of his company and practises they employ; but whether we're right or wrong to do so, both him and his wife must be congratulated for their donations and the work they have done through their charity.

Keep up the good work, Mr & Mrs Gates.

Re:Kudos (2, Interesting)

IAAP (937607) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284849)

All too often we will critiscise Bill Gates for the actions of his company and practises they employ; but whether we're right or wrong to do so, both him and his wife must be congratulated for their donations and the work they have done through their charity.

I'm trying to find the quote. Someone once made a comment during the Guilded Age regarding Carnegie's, Rockefeller's, etc... charities. The critique was that they were doing it for PR or to clense their souls (which might have been true for Carnegie. He really believed that it was a sin to die rich.) The person argued something to the affect of "So what? If it weren't for them, we wouldn't have all of these public libraries (Carnegie), the first Black Universities (Rockefeller), and so on (the Mellons, Morgans, other Robber Barons)". At that time, the Government wasn't doing it and I'm not sure that the Government should.
BTW, Rockefeller set up his charities so that they had to fund themselves. If they couldn't, they didn't get his money - very efficient.

Re:Kudos (0, Troll)

Tx (96709) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284858)

Yeah, it' so nice of him to share a tiny fraction of the vast wealth he gained by using proven illegal practices to crush Microsofts competitors.

Re:Kudos (1, Insightful)

Rakshasa Taisab (244699) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284869)

Ahh, yes... If only the owners of other sleazy, immoral and downright criminal corporations spendt more of their illgotten gains on charity, well the world would definitly be a much better place.

Another Legacy (1)

Mattygfunk1 (596840) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284934)

Well said.

What I find interesting is that Bill is clearly someone who has helped change the world and touch many peoples lives already, and now seems to be looking towards an even greater legacy in Africa and 3rd world countries.

At only 50 years old, his next triumph may still be his greatest.

On an offtopic side note, my little test revealed Wikipedia [wikipedia.org] is already up to date. Cool.

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Charity is not software (1)

wombatmobile (623057) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284944)

His charity may be good
but that doesn't make his software good
or innovative.

Only he can do that.
And time and again he has not managed to do that
until somebody else does it first
and then he tries to do something similar.

Respect.. (3, Insightful)

aero2600-5 (797736) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284809)

As much as I dislike Bill Gates and his business practices, there is no doubt that he and his wife have done more for charitable organizations than anyone in history. Bill Gates and his wife deserve to be celebrated for their efforts.

Aero

More than Jesus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284821)

Do you realize how many charities and how much charitable work has been done in his name? Besides, it seems you are measuring charitable work with money, which is a shame.

Re:More than Jesus? (1)

aero2600-5 (797736) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284861)

Do you realize how many people have been killed in his name? I know of about 7-9 million in just my religion, that were killed in the name of Christ.

Next time I post here, I'll be sure to add 'Religious zealots need not reply'.

Aero

Re:More than Jesus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284867)

Oh, and Bill Gates has never done any harm in making his money? If you can't separate good people from bad, that's your problem, but the fact still stands that a LOT of good has been done in Jesus' name, more than Bill Gates could ever hope.

Re:More than Jesus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284949)

Hey now, Jesus was actually a pretty cool guy. Don't get him confused with his fan club.

1936 (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284811)

In the year 1936 Adolf Hitler was the person of the year on the time magazine.

Before you flame Time... (1, Insightful)

mister_llah (891540) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284815)

Before you all flame Time for liking Bill Gates... bear in mind that Hitler also won man of the year back in his day...

I am not making any links, I am not vehemently anti-Gates, but I just thought it would be a good perspective to keep in mind before you went and sent letter bombs to Time :)

Re:Before you flame Time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284862)

Also, Osama Bin-Laden was in the running a few years back, but I think TIME wimped out in the end.

As did Stalin... (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284889)

...twice.

Re:Before you flame Time... (1)

mrbill1234 (715607) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284897)

Yes, and Stalin was too - twice. Apparently Bin Laden was a contender after 9/11 - not because he did anything great, but because he made the news.

FTA- (2, Funny)

soundoff (927124) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284818)

"For being shrewd about doing good, for rewiring politics and re-engineering justice." I think I understand now. Those commie bastards in the open-source community are reverse-engineering justice and giving it away for free.

Get me a bucket I'm gonna throw up. (0, Troll)

The I Shing (700142) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284819)

Bill Gates is not a philanthropist at all. In fact, he is making the problems of the world that he pretends to be helping to solve much, much, much worse [informatio...house.info].

If I went into a poor neighborhood and built five houses for five families, and then bulldozed the rest of the neighborhood and sent hundreds of other families out freezing and starving into the streets, well, give a good PR team like Gates has and I guess the newspapers would call me a philanthropist, too.

MOD PARENT OVERRATED (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284878)

Is linking to nut-job conspiracy sites really +4 Insightful on Slashdot now?

Re:Get me a bucket I'm gonna throw up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284904)

Pardon me if I don't buy a link that bills itself as "News you won't find on CNN" as insightful. Stuff in the Weekly World News wouldn't make it into CNN or any other media as well, why does this cuckoo site think its so special?

While you are throwing up, millions of kids who would have died are living thanks to the efforts of the Gates foundation. How about you trade places with one of those kids and lets see if you still are going to throw up.

It's sad to how the tinfoil-hat conspiracy black-helicopter crowd has infiltrated slashdot. Nerds bill themselves to be smart buy every nutjob theory to justify their hatred of Bill Gates.

Re:Get me a bucket I'm gonna throw up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284945)

Actually the author of that article, Greg Palast, is a respected journalist in the UK but then again you wouldn't know that from watching CNN either.

And while you aren't throwing up why don't you trade places with the 20 million other people who will not be getting any drugs because of the intellectual property treaty pushed for by Gates?

I CONCUR MOD PARENT "IDIOT" (-1, Troll)

mumblestheclown (569987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284905)

The link points to basically an idiot denunciation of the TRIPS protocol - basically some economically illiterate screed by the same people who badly photocopy "socialist news" and leave copies at smoky coffee shops. Overthrow the proletariat another day, buddy. Today, get your head out of your ass long enough to congratulate a man who not only gives huge sums of money for the right cause, but has the integrity to follow it to make sure it's going where it is needed.

Re:I CONCUR MOD PARENT "IDIOT" (1)

The I Shing (700142) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284956)

When you're done pickin' Gates' pubic hairs outta your teeth you outta brush 'em, your breath smells like ass.

MOD PARENT UP (1)

c0l0 (826165) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284911)

I'd do so, but I haven't got any points left at the moment.
A really interesting read, thanks for the link.

Re:Get me a bucket I'm gonna throw up. (2, Insightful)

City Jim 3000 (726294) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284925)

Yeah right, he's spending $6000 million to get a profit on his $200 million investement in medical companies?

Conspiracy Theory FTW!

Bill Gates is surely giving a larger percentage to charity than I do. I think I gave $2 for the flood victims because a couple of swedes were there, otherwise I usually think "well build yuor homes somewhere else next time". Otherwise I havn't been giving a single penny to charity for about 10 years.

Man of the year...... (1)

commo1 (709770) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284822)

On Forbes, or Fortune, or The Robb Report..... but TIME?

I agree that Time always tries to be a little off-centre in their selection of Man of the Year (PC Man of the Year, etc...) but this is getting ridiculous. Plus, he's already been Man of the Year, when he most deserved it for his dominance (for better or for worse) in the emerging IT marketplace.

Re:Man of the year...... (1)

woolio (927141) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284916)

They almost made Bin Laden Man of the Year....

I'm not the least surprised.

He's with good company (0)

tobybuk (633332) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284824)

Some of the previous winners:

1938: Adolf Hitler
1939: Joseph Stalin

This award can mean both good and bad.

Re:He's with good company (1)

ShineyMcShine (799387) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284845)

If Time wanted to put a man like Hitler or Stalin on the cover this year they had more than one choice. The choice that comes to my mind is W.

Re:He's with good company (1)

Dante Shamest (813622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284884)

If Time wanted to put a man like Hitler or Stalin on the cover this year they had more than one choice. The choice that comes to my mind is W.

Hmm...W...W...Washington?

Re:He's with good company (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284968)

Are you kidding? Dubya is just a shrub and not worthy of the dishonor of being the man of the year.

In 1939... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284826)

a guy named Hitler was Time's Man of the Year too.

Sorry to get Biblical guys... (5, Insightful)

fussili (720463) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284827)

Mark 12:41-44
41 Jesus sat down opposite the place where the offerings were put and watched the crowd putting their money into the temple treasury. Many rich people threw in large amounts.
42 But a poor widow came and put in two very small copper coins, worth only a fraction of a penny.
43 Calling his disciples to him, Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, this poor widow has put more into the treasury than all the others.
44 They all gave out of their wealth; but she, out of her poverty, put in everything-- all she had to live on."

As much as I understand the necessity of patting people on their back for doing anything at all with their insanely huge wealth - to stop them turning away sneering at the 'ingratitude' of the world, I can think of a lot of "Good Samaritans" who better deserved Person of the Year

Re:Sorry to get Biblical guys... (1)

auctoris (888249) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284901)

Thanks for mentioning this. This was the first thing that popped into my mind when I read the story. I have no doubt that by these standards many have given a lot more to charity than Gates. I even know a few. In fact, as a percentage of income, I probably have.

The other point to consider is the old, "do the ends justify the means?" If I devise a way to do a disservice to a large portion of the population by committing several unethical (and some would say immoral) acts and then, after I have profited heavily from it, turn around and give some of that "dirty" money to charity--am I now a "good" person? Hmmm . . .

A good example of this... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284946)

Professor Finds Fulfillment In Emptying His Pockets [washingtonpost.com] (might need to be registered) about a DC area community college mathematics professor who has a goal of donating $1million to charity before he retires, and he's already up to $770,000. Many years he's donated more than half of his annual income to charity.

Yes, the world, but not the US (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284831)

Yes. A difference to the whole wide world and not to the US!

Total amount is really not a true measure (3, Insightful)

kgroombr (608645) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284834)

Although they did give a large amount back, what percentage is this to what was taken in? There are a lot of people that don't make a lot of money and give a large percentage to charities. The total amount given is really not a measure of one's thoughtfulness, the percentage is really where it counts.

Re:Total amount is really not a true measure (1)

Stumbles (602007) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284860)

Yes, it is IMO fair to say there is a good deal lopsidedness between those two numbers. And I might add, good Samaritans do things that that are not self serving. If you exclude the donations to aids and the like. The vast majority of those ARE self serving to Microsoft. So as usual IMV Times is doing nothing but sucking up to uncle bill. I cannot believe there were no one else on this planet that has done works that were more selfless and not in some way self serving.

Re:Total amount is really not a true measure (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284928)

Islam requires that you donate 10% of your income, while Bill Gates donates around 2%. Therefore, to the popular press, Muslims are evil terrorists who hate freedom, while Bill Gates is a great philanthropist. Good, huh?

Bil Gates was the number one person in the news? (1)

loftwyr (36717) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284835)

While I commend the Gates Foundation for it's great work, surely there has to be someone that, in the past 12 months, has afected the news more than he has.

Isn't that what the Person of the Year was designed to be? Has it fallen so far that anyone with enough money can buy the post?

The Headline Is Plain Wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284837)

Is it really so hard to have the headline be accurate? Bill & Melinda Gates, and Bono were the Persons of the Year. There was no single person of the year. I know the summary elaborates on it, but the headline and actual story are not the same.

I know slashdot tries to make Bill Gates to focus of everything, but lets try for some accuracy.

Say what you like (0, Troll)

pete19 (874979) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284840)

Say whatever you like about Microsoft (I can't say I'm a big fan of them!), but you can't realy fault Bill Gates as a man.

I mean, how many billions of dollars have you given to charities and foundations?

Yeah... thought so.

Re:Say what you like (1)

Stumbles (602007) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284873)

Oh fer cryin' out loud. Your logic holds about as much water as a cotton diaper.... and stinks about as much.

Re:Say what you like (1)

pete19 (874979) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284954)

Sorry, that's probably right! I'm tired and that was a rushed post!

It just annoys me that people here seem to think of Gates as an evil man trying to take over the world (which may or may not be true), when he has spent a lot of money trying to make a difference in the world.

He may not have done a lot of charity work with his own hands, but last time I heard, the Gates foundation has an endowment of something like $28 billion! That money has enabled a huge amount of work, and helped countless numbers of poeple accross the world.

Re:Say what you like (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284895)

I mean, how many billions of dollars have you given to charities and foundations?

Know what, give me $100 million and I will donate 95% of it to charity. Has gates been that generous with his ill gotten gains?

Yeah... thought so!

Re:Say what you like (5, Insightful)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284915)

I mean, how many billions of dollars have you given to charities and foundations?

The same amount I've raised using illegal business practices.

Rich man... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284841)

... with arguably shady background, named man of the year by magazine for his charity efforts.

In other news: ocean is wet and mountains are high...

Bono (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284844)

Hardly a good samaritan when he doesn't spend his own money. He lives in a mansion and he has servants and then begs the working class of the west to pay Africa's way.

We already discussed this... (1)

linumax (910946) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284853)

We already discussed this here [slashdot.org] and this was my comment [slashdot.org] on the topic.
The thing is it was one of the few discussions on slashdot (it's about Billy of the M$) which was truely fair or at least gives me such a feeling

Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284859)

It's Gates and Bono, 2 unscrupulous business men that earned their fortune ripping off other peoples work. Of course they both support strong 'intellectual property' and do lots of work for charity so lets forget that they are a pair of lying, thieving shitbags.

I nominate Gary Glitter for the next time magazine person of the year, with honors going to Michael Jackson.

reminds me of (1)

patcito (932676) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284871)

reminds me of that old rich lady in Futurama that everybody love because they think it's a good old grandma although she's a real bitch.

Sorry Bill (1, Insightful)

Ed Almos (584864) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284881)

Giving away millions does not excuse you from Microsoft tactics such as:

1) EULAs that take away the users rights

2) Operating systems with little or no security

3) Business tactics that make the Borgias look like a kindergarden group.

5/10, try harder.

Ed Almos

Linus Charity donations (3, Interesting)

Frankie70 (803801) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284883)

Not trolling, but asking out of genuine curiousity.

Isn't Linus Torvalds also a millionaire? Does anyone have any figures
about his charitable donations?

Re:Linus Charity donations (3, Insightful)

LinuxRulz (678500) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284950)

he probably donates, but you know, the biggest donator always gets all the credits. And Gates can donate far more than Torvalds.

I believe we should be evaluated not by how much we donate, but by what we have left after the donation. Then, I could be considered as a _big_ donator!

Melinda I can see (1)

darth_linux (778182) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284887)

she makes him spend that money. otherwise it'd be sitting in the warehouse of a home he has being his only friend.

How Many TIME Copies Did Bill Have to Buy? (-1, Offtopic)

osewa77 (603622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284888)

So how many copies of TIME magazine did Bill Gates have to buy to qualify as this year's "Person of the Year"? And how many CDs did he have to buy in order to get the free association with Bono?

Melinda Gates (5, Interesting)

Laser Lou (230648) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284890)

I really have to give Melinda Gates credit for influencing Bill to start that foundation because, from what I read, Bill didn't donate anything until after he married her.

"klubar" can't read. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284891)

The award was to Bill Gates, his wife AND BONO!

How could anyone forget such important person?

Cynics' Interpretation (-1, Troll)

ettlz (639203) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284892)

good samaritan who made a difference n. Rich bastard in need of a tax break.

Re:Cynics' Interpretation (3, Insightful)

Frankie70 (803801) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284919)


good samaritan who made a difference n. Rich bastard in need of a tax break.


Standard Slashdot comment every time this topic comes up.
Hopefully, at sometime time, the morons will realize that
making charitable donations doesn't increase your money.

1) You have 100$. No charitable donations.
You pay say 30% tax on it - i.e. 30$.
You have 70$ left with you.

2) You have 100$. You give 20$ to charity.
Now you pay tax only on the remaining 80% i.e. 24$.
The money you have left = 100 -24 - 20 = 56$.

i.e You would have been left with more money if you
hadn't given charity & got the tax breaks.

The only diff to this scenario is when giving the
donation puts you in a lower tax bracket. However
I doubt it that's the case with Bill Gates - he should
far far above the highest tax bracket.

A little fact about charitable donations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284896)

Bill Gates has donated more money to charity than anyone else in history.
So Microsoft shennanigans aside, he still has donated a good chunk of cash back into society.

Islamic charities contribute too (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284899)

Al-Qaeda gets a lot of funding from various Islamic charities. Besides Al-Qaeda and its satellite organisations, these charities do indeed contribute large amounts of money to various humanitarian causes. Does that mean we have to like them now?

The devil is always kind (-1, Troll)

tomstdenis (446163) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284903)

Think about it, he spends 365 days a year trying to screw people into using his companies inferior products, makes billions then spreads it around. I'm glad he's doing that at least, I'd be happier if he wasn't screwing multiple generations of humans with the shit products though.

I guess when I become a software tyrant and all around jackass I too can afford to spread some money and look all innocent.

Tom

Just the Carnegies and Rockefellers of the past (1, Insightful)

loggia (309962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284912)

Rip off people, lie, cheat, do WHATEVER IT TAKES to make billions... ...then give a lot of it away to receive praise.

Time Magazine, how stupid are you.

Re:Just the Carnegies and Rockefellers of the past (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284958)

Mod this up because it is so true. I just screwed overyone, so now I have to do something to make myself feel good.

Crass and Mercantile (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284918)

Isn't AOL/Time/Warner/CNN currently trying to sell an organ [cnn.com] to Microsoft?

Perspective (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14284929)

Bill Gates gives away (strings attached) large amounts of money, and is made Time Man of the Year.

Thousands of programmers give a far higher percentage of their time, money, and rights, to humanity, with fewer strings attached, for various reasons, but you'll never read about them in Time.

It's all about the money.

Bono bloody Bono (3, Insightful)

wwwrench (464274) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284938)

Well, this shows how credible Time mag. is

Time also named former Presidents George Bush and Bill Clinton as "Partners of the Year" for their humanitarian efforts after the Asian tsunami and Hurricane Katrina, and the unlikely friendship that developed from that work.

Unlikely friendship??? Someone hand me a hanky. Gotta love applauding Bush for Katrina. It ain't as ironic as giving Kissenger the Peace prize, but it's gettting there. And Bono??? Bono???
The guy may be well meaning and all, but by allowing politicians to exploit him, he essentially allows them to look good while they make the problems of Africa worse. Him and Bobby Geldof were complete tools at the last G8, allowing Blair to look like he wanted to help Africa, when all they did was continue the same IMF policies of handouts in exchange for selling off of resources to the west. And Bono does it over and over again [zmag.org].

Why I think this is bogus (2, Interesting)

testadicazzo (567430) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284942)

I'm not a typical Gates basher, but I do have a problem with praising the guy for all his charitable work, and I'm going to try to explain why.

Gates is convicted abuser of monopilist power. This means he obtained a large amount of his tremendous wealth through illegal means. The only reason he/his corporation hasn't been chastized for this is his enourmous contributions to the rebuplican party during the Bush vs. Gore elections. So not only is he guilty of abusing monopolistic power, but in my mind he is also guilty of subverting democracy. Granted this type of subversion is pretty common in modern America, but I still find it reprehensible behavior.

Now, for whatever motivations he has, he is taking some small portion of his ill gotten gains and using it for charity. But he gained that wealth by putting lots of smaller and often better companies and products out of business. God only knows what the final cost of the Microsoft monopoly is on the world.

I hope that it's clear to almost everyone that such monopolies are always bad for the consumer (there may be an argument to be made for publicly controlled monopolies like rail systems and postal systems, but this is a complex debate, and I don't think it's germane here). The lack of competition means less incentive to do strong quality checking, less responsiveness to the consumer, and higher cost. Not to mention the god awful EULA's and customer service. And this hasn't even mentioned the nightmarish influence of Microsoft on the public domain and the patent service.

Now I don't want to focus on the typical fodder of microsoft bashing. My point is this wealth was accumulated using illegal business practices, and those illegal business practices were protected by using the wealth so gained to influence the political engine. Great. What a man! A real role-model.

Had he not accumulated such a vast amount of wealth through these illegal manoeverings, who knows how that wealth would have been spent otherwise? In essence, I see this as robbing money from the masses, and using it to purchase prestige and influence via charitable organizations. Granted his tactics aren't as bad as the Mafia's, but one can see a bit of an anology to the local mafia boss being a 'pillar of the community' because he does so much to maintain the local schools, libraries, and parks...

Bono - Pompous, Self-Righteous Twit (2, Insightful)

segedunum (883035) | more than 8 years ago | (#14284948)

I think that tells you what we can all make of Time Magazine's exalted choice.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11 worst [thebestpag...iverse.net]

This quote epitomizes U2's pious, holier-than-thou attitude:

"I don't know why, but we always had this belief that there was something sacred about our music, that it was almost holy."

-Bono, pompous asshole and lead singer of U2

Cocky, high-handed, imperial assholes.
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