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Yahoo Launches Dashboard

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the must-have-more-widgets dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Engadget has a 'live' post from a Yahoo press conference this morning showing something called Yahoo Dashboard. It looks awwwfully familiar. They brought out Ellen DeGeneres to demo it, and Tom Cruise to show an MI: 3 trailer for some reason." From the article: "I would like to announce right now what we call Yahoo Go. If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen .... Yahoo Go ... is a revolutionary way to connect users to Web services they already use. We're installing new applications right on devices (pix of laptop, TV, phone)." Dashboard is the relaunch of Konfabulator. We reported on Yahoo!'s purchase of Konfabulator last year.

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Imitation is the sincerest form... (4, Informative)

daveschroeder (516195) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411768)

I'm not sure if the submitter is insinuating that Yahoo "Dashboard" looks suspiciously familiar to Apple's Dashboard [apple.com] on Mac OS X 10.4.x (Tiger), but we should be reminded that Yahoo Go/Yahoo Dashboard is in fact Yahoo! Widget Engine [yahoo.com] , which is in fact Konfabulator renamed.

And Konfabulator [wikipedia.org] , by Arlo Rose (of Kaleidoscope [kaleidoscope.net] fame) and Perry Clarke, was around on the Mac OS X platform first, until a Windows version was also released with the help of Ed Voas before Yahoo!'s purchase [wikipedia.org] . In fact, if it weren't for the Windows version, Yahoo! may never have come knocking.

And it's easy to say that Apple ripped off Konfabulator to make Dashboard, but if we go back a step further...say, a couple of decades, we find that the idea of Konfabulator - little modeless applets that do useful things, like an address book or a notepad or a calculator or a little game - actually hearkens back to Apple's original idea [daringfireball.net] of Desk Accessories [wikipedia.org] .

It all comes full circle!

No, wait. That's not full circle. It all leads back to Apple. ;-)

This is old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411779)

yeah umm.. hasnt dashboard been out for a few weeks now? I have been running it.

i am confused: apple dashboard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411783)

Isn't apple's dashboard similiar to Konfabulator (sp?) and this is that program called dashboard?

Can't they stick with a name? (2, Interesting)

ruiner13 (527499) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411785)

It was Konfabulator 3 months ago, then it was Yahoo! Widgets, and now it is Yahoo! Dashboard? Are they trying to confuse people? I wonder if they'll have problems with Apple for using "Dahsboard".

Good for OSS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411786)

Another opportunity for real people to be use OSS! That's great! Real people would never have used something called "Konfabulator" with no marketing, anyway. Yahoo has the muscle to put this on a lot of desktops.

Apple legal (1)

anaesthetica (596507) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411800)

Does anyone else foresee Apple legal having a field day with the name "Yahoo! Dashboard"? If Dashboard is a trademark, as I would assume Apple legal would have assured, then how can Yahoo! get away with naming their equivalent service the exact same thing? It would be like Apple coming out with a web search called "Apple Yahoo!".

konfabulator pissed me off (1)

caffeinemessiah (918089) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411802)

i don't know about you, but i hate that they re-branded Konfabulator as the Yahoo Widget Enginer. Another case of innovation-by-purchase. Now I wonder if the dashboard will give you a free stress test...

I tried it and had a gripe, so I stopped using it. (2, Informative)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411813)

I'm conditioned to hit Windows-D to drop back to my desktop when I need to get back to my desktop. Unfortunately, this simple and practical key combination also hides the widgets from my view, making them much less useful.

That's got the lesbian and gay community covered.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411818)

They brought out Ellen DeGeneres to demo it, and Tom Cruise to show an MI: 3 trailer for some reason.

Well, that covers the lesbian and gay community. No representation for us straight folks?

Everyone Copying Everyone (3, Funny)

minimunchkin (838824) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411819)

Dashboard steels the look of Konfabulator, itself a stolen idea. Yahoo buys Konfabulator and steals the name of Dashboard. Whatever next?

rename? (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411820)

So we have a /. story about how Yahoo! renamed Konfabulator? Really, is this worth a post? This is Digg quality frontpage stuff, not /.

Same problems as Ellen (0, Offtopic)

Caspian (99221) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411821)

If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen

Yeah, I've also had major problems with fundamentalist organizations nationwide lambasting me as an evil influence on the culture after I came out on national television as a lesbian.

...oh, wait.

little information.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411824)

what a stupid post.. WHAT is this dashboard ?

Ho Rah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411831)

First post, bitch!

Well, it wasn't Justin Timberlake... (4, Interesting)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411833)

...but negative style points to Yahoo for trotting out Ellen Degeneres (really not that funny anymore) and Tom Cruise (Scientology poster boy and general nutcase). If these are the kind of people using Yahoo Go, I'll just do without thanks.

Ohhhh Nooooo (1)

TheDoctorWho (858166) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411838)

Another pos piece of software my stupid users will be loading on thier desktops.

And no, they won't let me stop people from loading software........ arghhhhhhhh.....

So now when the finger-pointing starts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411840)

Who is the villain? Yahoo for releasing Konfabulator and being like Apple? Apple for cloning Konfabulator in the first place?

Maybe we can just all agree to beat up the first Apple user that suggests Konfabulator and Dashboard are derivatives of MacOS's Desk Accessories [wikipedia.org] .

umm - dashboard? (1)

DarkClown (7673) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411841)

Apple is just going to love this. The should have just called it iDashboard to avoid the whole apple litigation this is sure to provoke.

Tom Cruise On The Ellen Show (1)

CHaN_316 (696929) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411842)

I'm sure this is how the show went:
Cruise> Ellen, Ellen, I've never agreed with Yahoo, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with Yahoo. And when i started studying the history of psychiatry, I understood more and more why I didn't believe in Yahoo.
Ellen> But Tom..
Cruise> Ellen, Ellen. As far as the Dashboard thing is, look. You gotta understand, I really care about the Dashboard. I-- I think here's a-- a-- a wonderful and talented piece of software. And-- I wanna see it do well. And I know that-- Yahoo -- is a pseudo science. I KNOW THE HISTORY OF YAHOO! YOU DON'T!

Idea is useful for some things (2, Interesting)

jacobcaz (91509) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411847)

The idea of a dashboard is okay, but the application it's useful has to be pretty specific. I run OS X and the only widgets I've found useful have been the weather widget and the calculator. I have the dashboard bound to one of my mouse buttons and I can call up a 5-day weather forcast or calculator at the click of a button.

Otherwise I haven't been able to find another good application - that fits my needs - that I'm willing to give up RAM to.

All of these dashboard ideas seem like a solution looking for a good idea - and from personal experience and talking to friends that idea hasn't really been found just yet.

Who, Ellen Degenerate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411849)

If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen [snip]

I don't even want to know those problems....

Apple legal (1)

anaesthetica (596507) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411856)

Does anyone else foresee Apple legal having a field day with this? Judging from their past behavior, Apple legal is not the most lenient or forgiving group of people on Earth. One wonders how Yahoo! could justify releasing a product with exactly equivalent functionality, with the same name. It would be like Apple releasing a web search branded "Apple Yahoo".

However, after perusing Apple's list of trademarks [apple.com] , I don't see Dashboard. Maybe Apple legal slipped up and forgot to register this one. Still, I can't see anyone over there being happy about this development...

Ellen DeGeneres? (2, Funny)

timtimtim2000 (884095) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411859)

Ellen DeGeneres is an authoritative source on technology, which is why Yahoo! has lured me into using their dashboard.

Its not called Yahoo Dashboard... (2, Informative)

RockClimbingFool (692426) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411870)

Its called Yahoo Go and its derived from Konfabulator. Doesn't Konfabulator pre-date Apple's implementation of their Dashboard?

Impact on smaller software companies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411871)

This rush by Google to snatch companies up to gain entry into new biz areas, and the ripple affect it's having is good for smaller software companies. Well, at least the ones that win the acquisition lotto. Of course it sucks for the other ones that were maybe doing ok, but then someone like Google comes along, buys your competitor and releases their software for free (e.g. Google Earth), leaving your only real chance for survival to be acquired by Yahoo/M$/AOL. Of course all the while they'll be playing the patent lotto, hoping for maybe a dual payday.

$10 billion lawsuit forthcoming from Apple? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411872)

I predict that within a couple of weeks, Apple will file a $10 billion lawsuit against Yahoo for copyright, trademark, and patent infringement. Steve Jobs may actually announce this lawsuit in his keynote speech.

Discuss.

What, no couch (1)

thaerin (937575) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411873)

"and Tom Cruise to show an MI: 3 trailer for some reason."

It's probably a good thing there wasn't a couch nearby otherwise we'd see hundreds of clips on the evening news about him jumping up and down on it while exlaiming how much he loves this software.

no comments? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411875)

sadf

It's been 10 minutes, slashdot must be broken again

Best quote from TFA (5, Funny)

PagosaSam (884523) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411882)

10:40 Outside, a guy talking into his phone: "Well Steve Jobs is a fucking Jedi Master of this shit compared to these other clowns."

I love this business!

Funniest part of TFA (1)

Krach42 (227798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411883)

10:40 Outside, a guy talking into his phone: "Well Steve Jobs is a fucking Jedi Master of this shit compared to these other clowns."

Yawn.... (1)

tktk (540564) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411889)

Yahoo Go ... is a revolutionary way to connect users to Web services they already use.

The only thing revolutionary about it is from the spin the PR people wrote.

That name sounds familar... (1)

metaomni (667105) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411894)

...almost as if someone [apple.com] had named an almost identical program "Dashboard". It's a cool concept, and I get a lot of use out of it on my Mac. But I have to wonder if they're going to run afoul of Apple's legal team.

*cough* *cough* (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411898)

Of course, we all know that Yahoo! would never copy ideas, it's surely just a coincidence.

Ripping Off Apple Ripping Off Konfabulator (3, Interesting)

Wizard Drongo (712526) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411902)

OK, so Apple ripped off Konfabulator with OS X Tiger's Dashboard. Now Yahoo (who bought Konfabulator) are ripping off Apple by rebranding it "Yahoo Dashboard". Clever, since Dashboard is waaay more famous a brand than Konfabulator, but Apple can't sue Yahoo for ripping them off since if they did Yahoo would counter-sue on the basis that Apple ripped off Konfabulator.

Anyone actually using widgets? (1)

rfinnvik (16122) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411906)

I installed konfabulator, and never really "got it"... To those using it daily - what widgets do you use ?

Well, it wasn't Justin Timberlake... (1)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411913)

...but negative style points to Yahoo for trotting out Ellen Degeneres (not very funny anymore, just pathetic) and Tom Cruise (Scientology postery boy and all-around nutcase) to promote Yahoo Go. If these are the people who are going to be using it, I'll pass.

first post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411914)

wow first post?

Lame! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411915)

It won't even let me show multiple weather widgets (for different cities) without having to make a separate copy of that widget.

Re-Launch? (1)

Julius X (14690) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411918)

Yahoo! purchased Konfabulator, and Dashboard is the re-launching of it.

Funny, I thought Yahoo Widgets 3.0 was the relaunch of Konfabulator?

How's that again? (1)

zephc (225327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411920)

"If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen..."

What, like being rich, famous and dating Portia de Rossi? Yeah, gosh, all the time.

good job (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411930)

initial message? one may only hope....

compulsory... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411936)

they used Ellen who is out of the closet and Tom Cruise who we are all waiting to come out of the closet.

hurray for expanding target audiences!

trademark on "Dashboard"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411938)

And Apple hasn't made a trademark complaint?

How? (1)

jollyroger1210 (933226) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411941)

From tfa:

"9:15 "I want to talk about my 13-year-old daughter. I was driving her to school .. I took a look at her when she got into the car. She had two headsets attached. One was her iPod video, the other was her Creative Zen."

                  Does she have four ears?

9:30 "There's spell check, but I think someone should invent a sarcasm check. And a 24-hour outgoing hold on angry emails."

                    How abut an Ellen DeGeneres check?

Steve Jobs (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411947)

"is the fucking Jedi Master of this shit" sums it up...

The want the widest demographic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411950)

They brought out Ellen DeGeneres to demo it, and Tom Cruise to show an MI: 3 trailer for some reason.

So it's no surprise that they featured a known heterosexual and known homosexual as announcers.

cheap yucks (1)

conJunk (779958) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411963)

reading this, my buddy and i chuckled over some web 2.0 parodies:

it's Car 2.0! not only does it drive places like it always did, but we wacked on an Ambient Climate User Interface, and a Personal Music Delivery Interface!

am just being dense, or does web 2.0 mean *anything* to non-marketing people?

First Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411964)

Great, Konfabultor was great. I mean first post.

Greatly Exaggerated Merit? (2, Interesting)

blobbo (732096) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411967)

I've completely disabled Dashboard on my iBook. I can't see the advantage of it over standard desktop apps - especially given that they each use about 10MB of real RAM. Give me Calculator.app any day. Launches in a single bounce, and has a whole ton more functionality than the widget. Many if not most of the widgets don't take advantage of the ability to write Obj-C code, making them simple Javascript/HTML apps. Those things I'd rather look at in my browser window.

Available to 3rd party Devs? (1)

rob_squared (821479) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411973)

Will this let 3rd party developers access the APIs to implement their own things?

I know I liked when google added widgets.

OT: Why does it seem that Ellen Degeneres is advertising many things nowadays? (Eg: West Wing, AMEX, Yahoo)

-whistle- Here Apple Legal! Here, boy! (1)

ahknight (128958) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411980)

Hmm. HTML/JS widgets on the desktop .. called Dashboard.

Apple Lawyers seeking blood in 3 ... 2 ...

No comments after 20 minutes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411985)

Must not be all that exciting after all. Is that why my script image is "deceive"?

Must be a slow news day (1)

LoaTao (826152) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411988)

Except for the name change and the "officialness" of the media circus this is the same story as was posted on December 12. This really isn't news... just a press release.

Do people really use these? (1)

edmicman (830206) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411993)

Do people really use these widgets, dashboards, etc., especially if they DON'T have dual monitors? I've played around with Konfabulator on my laptop at home, and it just doesn't work well. I don't just stare at and monitor my desktop. If I'm at the computer, I'm working on something, and with a laptop, screen real estate is at a premium. I've played with them at work where I do have dual monitors, and while they are more useful in that setting, I find them a bit distracting, too. It's like I need a completely separate monitor for my widgets, and then another two monitors to do actual work!

Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14411996)

Won't Apple come after them for "Dashboard"? I know Apple used the name Widgets, but this is the main thing, not the little apps running inside it.

Yahoo Dashboard? (1)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 8 years ago | (#14411998)

From TFA, it appears this thing installs a Yahoo! search bar between the speedometer and the idiot lights. Will it display pop-ups while I'm driving? Will it work on my '71 Econoline, or do I need to upgrade to a modern car?

What are they doing here? (1)

mctk (840035) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412002)

It always adds to your product if celebrities endorse it:

If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen"

Let me check. Um nope. And I can dance.

Tom Cruise? "You don't know Yahoo!!!! I KNOW YAHOO!!!"

Just one part of the package... (2, Informative)

smorky (159837) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412006)

the article seems kinda of skimpy on details, so you can find some more information here [yahoo.com] . It appears that Konfabulator/Yahoo! Widget Engine is just a part of Yahoo Go and Yahoo Dashboard.

Yet Again (1)

Derg (557233) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412009)

yet another demo where the lags and hangups are blamed on MS. Come on now, you should be able to get your software to do what you want it to do when you need to do it, especially if its for a demo of your newest and greatest product.

Ummmm (1)

GmAz (916505) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412010)

A little too late maybe? Keey trying Yahoo!, maybe one day you will come up with an original idea ahead of everyone else.

"...dealing with things..." (1)

CthulhuDreamer (844223) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412011)

"If you have some of the same problems dealing with things as Ellen..."

So many punchlines, so little time...

isn't this just Yahoo Widgets 3.0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412015)

These just came out (re-released) a few weeks ago. Are they already rebranding it the Yahoo Dashboard?

Late out of the gate... (1)

SchrodingersRoot (943800) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412023)

I'd wanted this/something similar a while back, but Firefox's extensions came to the rescue...and since I never close my browser....hmmm...
I guess we'll see.

No comments? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412030)

It's been almost 25 minutes since this story came out. Is /. dying?

BFD (1)

GungaDan (195739) | more than 8 years ago | (#14412032)

Steve Ballmer launches chairs.

I tried to RTFA, but it made absolutely no sense, except the part about correcting pronunciation of some dude's name. I don't know if that's because it's late on a Friday afternoon, or there is really nothing at all to the article or the product launch, but I suspect it's a little from column "A" and a little from column "B." Call me when this stupid konfabulation thingie can make me a fucking ham sammich.

Wow. Everyone left work... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14412034)

... and left me behind. Even /. is dead, or at least this article is, given the lack of any posts.
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