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MacWorld Keynote Announces x86 iMac & Laptop

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the watch-him-talk dept.

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Steve Jobs began giving his keynote at 9am local time, PST. The action was posted live at MacRumorsLive, and Engadget. From the Engadget liveblog: "How many [iPods] did we sell last quarter? Some of the estimates were getting astronomical - 8 million, 9 million. I'm really pleased to announce that last quarter we sold 14 million iPods .. that is over a hundred every minute, 24/7 throughout the quarter. And it still wasnt enough. We've now sold over 42 million iPods -- as you can see the curve is going up again" MacWorld and Ars Technica has coverage as well. The shiniest news: MacBook Pro. iSight, Front Row; $1999 1.67 Core Duo; 667 DDR bus, Radeon x1600; $2499 1.83GHz. Intel chip.

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little late? (-1, Flamebait)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438085)

This would've been better if it were posted an hour ago. All the fun's over now.

Thanks (2, Insightful)

Colourspace (563895) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438102)

Thanks, but for the rest of us non Apple fanboys it's good enough.

Re:little late? (1)

Suburbanpride (755823) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438145)

The fun isn't even beging yet. These probaly wont ship out for a while. but you know the minute someone gets one, they are going to take it apart. then the real fun begins.

Re:little late? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438162)

Stupid name (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438088)

Macbook sounds offensive and computer illiterate.

What do you guys think?
-Sj53

Re:Stupid name (5, Funny)

grungebox (578982) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438150)

I think the name is a little weird. Wasn't MacBook the guy that guy in that one play that British dude wrote? "Lay On, MacBook."

Re:Stupid name (5, Funny)

wealthychef (584778) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438223)

If you say "MacBook," you have to go outside and spit, then do three spins.

Re:Stupid name (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438252)

Don't say that word! Say 'the Scottish Computer' instead.

Re:Stupid name (5, Funny)

prockcore (543967) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438280)

"Be bloody, bold, and resolute! Laugh to scorn the power of man, for none of woman born shall harm MacBook."

I smell a new Apple slogan!

Indeed (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438174)

Apple is distinctly moving away here from the hallmark of maturity and erudition that "iMac" and "iBook" represented

Re:Stupid name (1)

frodo527 (614767) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438211)

It doesn't sound stupid. It sounds Scottish. "Aye laddie, check out me MacBook."

Unimportant... (4, Insightful)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438227)

Macbook sounds offensive and computer illiterate.

What do you guys think?


The art of choosing strategically well thought out product names is a declining art these days, I need only point to "Windows Defender". While most of us nerds know that Windows is on the defensive in the malware department there is no reason to let the uninitiated masses of Windows users know about it, they think the current situation is normal.

Not that I really care about the 'stupidity' of the MacBook name and I do agree with you that it is kinda clumsy. What I care about is what this MacBook can do and how soon I can get my filthy paws on one. Now if you will excuse me I have to go and empty my piggybank....

Re:Stupid name (-1, Troll)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438255)

I think the name is fine. Unfortunately, the product [apple.com] looks less like an Apple product and more like a laptop from a company that rhymes with "Hell".

In addition, it looks like they split the USB ports between the two sides of the laptop. That's just not cool. The power cord is a neat idea, though. I went through several of the older power adapters from my youngest son dumping my laptop off a desk. I tried to keep the door closed at all times, but he was a sneaky little bugger. Glad to see that Apple is addressing this issue in their newest lines.

Man, I wish I'd gotten in on those 50:1 odds against Intel machines, though. I'd be rolling in dough!

Re:Stupid name (2, Insightful)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438297)

The USB ports are split on the current PowerBooks as well. You sacrifice a little to have a laptop with such a slim chassis.

Never Microsoft Windows again. (-1, Troll)

network23 (802733) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438092)


This is it. Never Microsoft Windows again. Not one more second of pain.

Re:Never Microsoft Windows again. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438251)

Enjoy your AIDS.

Re:Never Microsoft Windows again. (4, Interesting)

Trurl's Machine (651488) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438282)

This is it. Never Microsoft Windows again. Not one more second of pain.

In fact, while I was always die-hard Apple supporter (I'm typing this on my fourth Apple-branded laptop) I appreciate the fact that now I will be able to dual boot in Windows and play the games not-yet or not-at-all released for MacOS. I actually do have a copy of "Deus Ex 2" waiting for the release of Intel-based Macs. Now I'll be able to dust it off... and play on a soon-to-be-mine iMac.

FP (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438095)

basharteg has big balls

yep, my wife finally got one for my son (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438096)

My son has one. I can't because they won't let me take it into work (a CD player only).

What he DIDN'T say (2, Funny)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438101)

we sold 14 million iPod ...

... and most of them are obsolete as of today!

Ouch!

Re:What he DIDN'T say (1)

kongjie (639414) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438129)

Huh?

Owner of first-generation iPod. Use it every day. Couldn't participate in the legal action as my battery life is too long.

Re:What he DIDN'T say (1)

vought (160908) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438273)

... and most of them are obsolete as of today!



No new iPods were introduced today; only an Apple FM tuner....

Did Apple suddenly make all iPods sold until today stop working or something? What an ass.

Heh (1, Redundant)

GoodOmens (904827) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438105)

So much for the bogus 42" and 50" media center plasmas.

Those laptops do look sweet though. Screw windows/linux now ... I'm throwing OSX on my intel box!

ps I know X is based on free bsd ;-)

Re:Heh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438248)

no! it's not based on freebsd. osx is the mach microkernel, which has a freebsd compatibility layer on top of it.

Yea (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438106)

but will it run Linux|Windows? Will there be offical drivers?

European Price? (3, Funny)

torpor (458) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438108)

Anyone know what the projected Euro price is going to be? My girlfriend has been waiting for this release before she buys herself a laptop (she's a pro photographer) and its definitely going to be top of the list ..

Man, dunno how i'm gonna feel on my lowly powerbook though .. how do you other geeks deal with girlfriends whose laptops are better than yours? aarrgghh ... :)

Re:European Price? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438246)

Always been 1$ = 1EUR...... including tax.

Re:European Price? (5, Funny)

boingyzain (739759) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438300)

how do you other geeks deal with girlfriends whose laptops are better than yours? aarrgghh ... :)

Slashdot readers don't have to worry about that.

I need to buy one (1)

AvinashM (212062) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438112)

I guess many of us will need to start saving now... Damn!

Intel! (2, Informative)

balster neb (645686) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438113)

It's worth mentioning in the summary that these new Macs are Intel based. The linked articles state this. The first Intel Macs are here, ahead of when they were expected.

Re:Intel! (1)

Yonder Way (603108) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438207)

No, it's just ahead of Apple's announced plans.

Pretty much everyone was expecting the first Intel Macs to land today.

Re:Intel! (1)

JPamplin (804322) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438250)

Well, if you think about it, Apple HAD to come out with Intel models earlier than expected. The cat was out of the bag at the WWDC last year, so I'm sure their desktop and laptop sales started declining that day as users put the "now-obsolete" PowerPC unit purchases on hold.

It's good that they are using the Yonah architecture. I just hope they get the FSB speeds up - that's the true bottleneck on these new chips.

JP

Re:Intel! (3, Funny)

Moofie (22272) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438277)

What part of "x86 iMac & Laptop" escaped you?

Re:Intel! (1)

balster neb (645686) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438304)

It seems that Zonk added the "x86" part a bit later. The very first version of the summary didn't mention Intel or x86 anywhere.

Also. (-1, Troll)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438115)

It is important to note that Apple now sells PCs, since these are Intel-based dual-core laptops. Please refrain from calling this computer a "Mac"!

Apple is using Intel (2, Funny)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438154)

Get over it. Or are you still using a Motorola 68k-based Mac?

Re:Also. (1)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438167)

yes, and please refrain from calling a Dell XPS an XPS Dude, it is a fucking product line.

Re:Also. (1)

kitzilla (266382) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438175)

> Please refrain from calling this computer a "Mac"!

Thanks, but we'll keep calling them Macs for so long as they run Macintosh OS.

Re:Also. (1)

Wakko Warner (324) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438306)

When OS X is hacked to run on Dells can we start calling Dells Macs too?

Re:Also. (3, Informative)

XavierItzmann (687234) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438183)

Apple has sold Personal Computers (PC's) since 1976. What part of "every Macintosh is a PC" don't you understand? Cheers,

Re:Also. (1)

the web (696015) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438231)

I thought they had always sold Personal Computers.

Re:Also. (2, Funny)

syd2000 (318027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438235)

Surely, you jest! How can we call it a PC, when it lacks viruses and spyware?

Re:Also. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438238)

The series is called macintosh , Mac for short. ( pavilion,aspire,deskpro and other crap systems )
It's a computer and is mostly personal.
So this PC is a mac is a PC just like the PowerMacs that are powered by Power PC's like in a mac.... pc ... mac .

Anycow,
It is very important to note that you are a total and complete flamebaiting fucktart.

Retep.

Too expensive... (2, Troll)

rfinnvik (16122) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438117)

I'd hoped for a drop in pricing when apple moved to "commodity" processors...

Re:Too expensive... (1)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438260)

The new dual-core Yonah processors are not what I would call "commodity". You show me a brand new laptop with the same specs and the same processor for anything less than the new laptop.

Re:Too expensive... (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438303)

On may ask where else can you buy an all-in-one unit with dual core CPU and a built in firewire camera for 1300 bucks?
That's pretty cheap.

The MacBook Pro (1, Interesting)

cyberfunk2 (656339) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438119)

Hate the name, hate it hate it hate it. I know the Power implies the use of a PPC chip.. but they had the Power name way back before PPC, so I really see no reason to drop it. "MacBook Pro" sounds like a kiddy toy But I've got to say, I love the specs. Finally good mobile graphics. Good CPU power, comparable on price to Dell's, which is really nice (even better deal for students w/ Apple). The iSight/frontrow stuff is just icing on the cake. Oh, and that magnetic no-trip power cord... that's just slick apple engineering right there.

Re:The MacBook Pro (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438198)

they had the Power name way back before PPC

Did they? I'm not entirely sure about that.

I was trying to come up with some other names for their MacBook. I like Lapintosh.

Re:The MacBook Pro (3, Informative)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438237)

Yes. The first several generations of PowerBooks ran 68k processors.

Re:The MacBook Pro (1)

cyberfunk2 (656339) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438262)

Did they? I'm not entirely sure about that.

They sure did. I'm a machead and used to use some of the old PB Duos. For a listing, look here [lowendmac.com] . Take for example, the Powerbook 190 [lowendmac.com] .

Older PowerPC Powerbooks are listed here [lowendmac.com] .

Re:The MacBook Pro (1)

BYC(VCU.EDU) (831956) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438202)

I don't know what everyones upset about. You didn't see this coming!? iMac, PowerMac, and with the change of processor of course this was going to happen.

Re:The MacBook Pro (0)

AgNO3 (878843) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438222)

No the first use power for macs came with the first PPC systems. I still have my lowly Power mac 7100/66 with a killer 2meg video card and hold on, 32megs or ram.

Re:The MacBook Pro (5, Informative)

lpontiac (173839) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438284)

No the first use power for macs came with the first PPC systems. I still have my lowly Power mac 7100/66 with a killer 2meg video card and hold on, 32megs or ram.
PowerBook 100 [everymac.com] . Released October 1991 with a 68HC000 processor.

Re:The MacBook Pro (2, Informative)

BushCheney08 (917605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438265)

The PowerBook line of laptops did indeed exist before the PPC. However, the PowerMac line of machines was named due to the use of the PPC chip.

Named for advertising (3, Funny)

umrgregg (192838) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438295)

Now that Apple is joining the upper eschelon of consumer products, it has to think broader than it's own niche market.

For instance, the MacBook was named such because of the possible tie ins with other proven products.

Apple will soon be announcing the Big MacBook Pro. It will feature a larger screen, two all-beef patties, a sesame seed bun, and be cross advertised with McDonalds.

Priceless tagline: (-1, Flamebait)

vought (160908) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438120)

"What's an Intel chip doing in a Mac? A lot more than it's ever done in a PC"

No wonder Dell is moving to AMD...they don't want to be associated with the low-rent OS they sell to all their customer by association with Intel.

macbook pro page http://www.apple.com/macbookpro (5, Informative)

Pfhor (40220) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438122)

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro [apple.com]

Dropped FW 800 and cardbus.

Re:macbook pro page http://www.apple.com/macbookpr (5, Informative)

grahams (5366) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438258)

Worth noting that the CardBus slot has been replaced with a ExpressCard/34 slot.

Added ExpressCard though. (1)

hattig (47930) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438285)

Although how many ExpressCards can you buy at the moment?

Hope they come out with a Firewire 800 ExpressCard!

Anyway ... okay products I suppose. Sadly my boss, who purchased 2 iMacs and a Powerbook a month ago, will be miffed if he hears of this.

4X faster? (2, Insightful)

muyuubyou (621373) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438287)

Dude, that sounds to me like "all our previous benchmarks were bogus"!

Next time you know they will say "now with twice the mouse buttons and productivity!"

Re:macbook pro page http://www.apple.com/macbookpr (1)

syd2000 (318027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438298)

> Dropped FW 800 and cardbus.

So much for using this nice EVDO card with it. Oh well, it can stay in my PB Titanium...

So now when you buy an Apple... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438127)

You're buying a design and an OS...

Admittedly it's the best design around and the OS isn't so scrappy, but it makes Apple a very strange chimera in the hardware/software/services area. In all honesty, Apple is now just an intellectual design powerhouse. They sell Good Ideas, not appliances, not computers...

iMac G5 owner (1)

aftk2 (556992) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438131)

As a purchaser of the last version of the iMac G5 (20-inch w/Front Row, iSight), I feel a twinge of jealousy, although it's not like I didn't know this was probably going to occur sometime in the new year. I'm glad that the transition to Intel seems to be going as well (or better than) expected; perhaps I'll console myself with a MacBook (yeah, right!)

apple.com (0, Redundant)

thelost (808451) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438132)

http://www.apple.com/ [apple.com] has been updated with new yummies! go look

So the big question is... (3, Insightful)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438137)

Can you load easily dual boot Windows on the new iMac and on the MacBook Pro? If you can then this opens up a new market of tepid switchers. It seems that Steve didn't mention this sort of functionality at all which leaves it as a big question mark for now.

Re:So the big question is... (1)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438233)

you can. they said so 6 months ago.

Re:So the big question is... (5, Informative)

Nefarious420 (883303) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438278)

Actually, they said they would not go out of their way to stop you, they never said they would support it or make it easy.

Re:So the big question is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438301)

Can you load easily dual boot Windows on the new iMac and on the MacBook Pro?

There is no question. You will be able to inside of a couple months.

Now, the question is, to what degree will doing this be officially supported.

Personally, I would be most curious whether the VMWare people now have official plans to support Apple OSes (as hosts or clients). It sure is too bad Microsoft bought VirtualPC.

split down the middle (2, Insightful)

godawful (84526) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438138)

well, that was pretty decent, but kind of strange, yes new powerbooks were to be expected, but now the imacs are faster then the low and midrange powermacs.. i'm assuming in a few weeks we'll see them all go quad core..

i wonder how long till ibooks and mini's

Geek Ready? (2, Funny)

ajwillys (930253) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438139)

So, this new Apple news is freakin' awesome! I want one of these right now! Now I just have to wait and see if Apple/Mac will finally be validated by the geek community before I can get one. Its long had the approval of the artsy-fartsy and recently, the trendy, but could this be the news that finally gives it approval with my oh so important "Linux or nothing else" loyalist friends? I mean it's a UNIX based OS, dual core chip in a laptop!! Look at the facts people, this is as geeky as it gets.

No Substantial iTunes/iPod News (1)

dignitas (944788) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438147)

Despite all sorts of rumors and analyst predictions, there was no new iPod (even though the Shuffle is a year old) and no new news around content for iTunes. Coming off CES with the Microsoft announcement around Urge and the Google Video announcement, I'm surprised that Apple didn't do something to extend in the music/video space. That said, the iPod sales numbers for the holidays were very impressive.

That's it. I'm done. (-1, Troll)

Millennium (2451) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438148)

Well, what do you know. As Apple pushes the state of personal computing back by 20 years, it seems I was right all along: even with Jobs' relentless quest for cheap-over-good, Apple has no intention of passing the savings onto its userbase. Rather than improve an elegant architecture, they have chosen to go with Intel's cesspool because of a few marketing numbers, and the users will eat it up like candy.

Very well. I had hoped that Apple would take long enough to introduce these systems that I would at least be able to get one more purchase in, but I never anticipated needing a new machine this year, and this doesn't change that. It just means that I'm using my last Macs, instead of my second-to-last ones. If I'm going to be forced to use a garbage architecture like x86 in the future, I want to at least get my money's worth out of the machines I buy. With the move to Intel, particularly with the Apple tax intact as I knew it would be, Macs are no longer different enough from other personal computers to justify the price premium.

Re:That's it. I'm done. (1)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438293)

With the move to Intel, particularly with the Apple tax intact as I knew it would be, Macs are no longer different enough from other personal computers to justify the price premium.

I don't think you understand what it is that makes a Mac a Mac.

Photocasting? Ugh (3, Interesting)

prockcore (543967) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438152)

I like how Apple reinvents pheed [pheed.com] and calls it "Photocasting" as well as "incredibly new".

Thanks Steve, but the Associated Press has been standardized on pheed for well over a year now.

pictures! (1)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438155)

Its already on sale!
check out the new mac books [apple.com] in the apple store!

Re:pictures! (1)

EvilTwinSkippy (112490) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438294)

Lookout Xmas Bonus!

The MacBook Pro (0, Redundant)

cyberfunk2 (656339) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438157)

Hate the name, hate it hate it hate it. I know the Power implies the use of a PPC chip.. but they had the Power name way back before PPC, so I really see no reason to drop it. "MacBook Pro" sounds like a kiddy toy

But I've got to say, I love the specs. Finally good mobile graphics. Good CPU power, comparable on price to Dell's, which is really nice (even better deal for students w/ Apple). The iSight/frontrow stuff is just icing on the cake.

Oh, and that magnetic no-trip power cord... that's just slick apple engineering right there.

Re:The MacBook Pro (1)

cyberfunk2 (656339) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438200)

Crap.. sorry for the double post. I thought the first one didnt go through for some reason. Damn macworld powered adrenaline.

MacWorld (1)

Scoria (264473) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438165)

Let me just say that I would hate to have just purchased a new PowerBook G4.

Personally, I am looking forward to seeing a benchmark comparison of the Intel iMac, the MacBook, and the current PowerMac G5. I'm especially interested in Rosetta benchmarks taken from these production machines.

MacBook Pro (5, Insightful)

Have Blue (616) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438170)

We CANNOT allow "MacBook Pro" to take off. Everyone needs to keep calling them Powerbooks. I don't care what Apple says. If customers keep coming into the stores asking for Powerbooks maybe they will come to their senses.

Really, all the top Mac news sites and blogs need to get on board with this. It is NOT a "MacBook Pro". It is and always will be a Powerbook.

Re:MacBook Pro (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438209)

This is why Apple users are generally regarded as "retarded".
Who cares what it's called?

It's what it DOES that matters, and to some lesser degree - how it looks.

Re:MacBook Pro (0, Troll)

outZider (165286) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438249)

Waah. Who cares? It's a name.

Chip Speed (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438180)

Why are they using 2GHz intel chips on the high end iMacs when 3Ghz ones are available on the PC?

Don't like it (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438192)

The enclosure is the same as the current powerbook. Compared to Sony it's really thick. Why only 1.67Ghz and 1.83ghz? Isn't Intel up to 2.33 now and aren't competitors using those chips already? It seems the only advantage is that the machine runs a nice user interface on top of BSD on the machine. Is that worth the premium?

Re:Don't like it (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438226)

you're a dumbass. the new macbooks are using the BRAND NEW intel yonah chips. the prior p4 based intel chips are slow as shit, even with a higher clock rate. again, you're a total dumbass, and i hope your mother knows she's failed.

A little history (4, Interesting)

toupsie (88295) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438199)

This isn't the first "Duo" Apple has released in notebook form [everymac.com] . The original PowerBook Duo was a very cool machine for its time.

What I want to know is... (1)

HellsAngel (582912) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438212)

Will I be able to dual boot Windows or Linux with this thing? And regarding Linux, will the existing drivers work for the components or will new ones have to be written for it? No successors to the iBook yet. Just the MacBook taking over where the Powerbook left off. Apple's going to be losing a few market share in this regard since the iBooks were always the ones that competed best against PC laptops regarding Price/Features. And here we were expecting Mac Minis and the iBook to be first to be offered with Intel Inside. I once again nominate Apple to run the CIA.

Windows? (4, Insightful)

anothermortal (577394) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438213)

I guess the real question is can it run Windows, Linux and OS X? What kind of black magic will we need to do to make it work?

Re:Windows? (1)

GoodOmens (904827) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438279)

You would assume it could run any x86 operating system as people have been running OSX on windows (intel) box's for the past few weeks.

In other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438229)

Satan bought a scarf, gloves and wooly hat.

FIrewire 800 (2, Insightful)

Seanasy (21730) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438242)

What happened? Where's the Firewire 800? I can understand, maybe, leaving it off the iMac but surely the MacBook should have one? My 15" Powerbook has Firewire 800. I just don't get it. I can't imagine they'd abandon Firewire for USB.

iLife update (1, Interesting)

That's Unpossible! (722232) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438244)

I just bought a powermac recently, came with iLife 5. Anyone know the procedure for upgrades? I have coupons with this mac that indicate I have iLife 5 and Mac OS 10.4.3, can I use these somehow to upgrade to iLife 6 for free? How?

Big Money (4, Informative)

dpofs10 (943514) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438254)

Wow, Apple stock is up almost 7% on this news.

Poor Mac users (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438257)

Aren't you tired of always being overpowered by PCs?

AMD > Intel

Web site size. (2, Interesting)

the web (696015) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438263)

In a related note, apple has gone to a 1024 web site layout now.

still has a 1 button mouse. (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14438264)

If you're going to have "PRO" in the name, you better give pros the tools the want and need.

Will it... (1)

tradiuz (926664) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438268)

Will it run Windows?

Wait thats not right...

Heresy (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438270)

An iPod that has an FM tuner? True, it's just an accessory, but did anybody contact the ninth level of hell to see how if a blizzard suddenly appeared?

No new iBook (1)

SiliconEntity (448450) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438272)

I'm disappointed that there was no new Intel IBook. This is the one the rumor sites were all sure would happen. $2K is too much for a laptop for me. I held off getting an iBook for Christmas waiting for today, and now I don't know what to do. I don't know whether to wait another six months and see what happens or go ahead and get one today. Very disappointing!

Something I really like... (5, Interesting)

rampant mac (561036) | more than 8 years ago | (#14438305)

From Apple's site [apple.com] :

Power Up With MagSafe

The new power adapter with MagSafe connector is designed to magnetically guide your cord into place and disconnect smoothly if someone (else) trips over it.

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I think that's awesome. I can't tell you how many times I've grabbed my PowerBook thinking it wasn't plugged in, only to have the chord yanked out, or worse, have the laptop almost pulled out of my hands.

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