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iBook Converts to iTablet

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the modders-capitalizing-on-thier-sk1llz dept.

Portables (Apple) 132

Samuel Cotterall writes to tell us The Register is reporting that, not content to wait for Apple's mythical tablet PC to ship, ThePlaceforitAll.com is selling converted iBooks on eBay to fill the void. From the article: "ThePlaceforitAll.com is the first to admit the hardware will not be supported by Apple, thanks to the warranty-warping modification work, but the software should still be covered. More worrying is the site's statement that it "will not fix any broken iTablets". It will also ship to US-located buyers only."

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132 comments

Why would you buy one of these? (3, Insightful)

winkydink (650484) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449179)

The touchpad is not compatible with Apple's Inkwell and it's a G4-based laptop. All that for a mere $1500? Save up another $500 and buy the new Macbook.

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (2, Interesting)

Wabin (600045) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449253)

Not to mention that the $1500 is just the starting price...

It should also be noted that there are no pictures yet, only renderings. Personally, I would want to be sure the thing existed before dropping $1.5K on it.

That or wait for apple to get its act together and release an official version. Clearly there are people who want them.

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (2, Interesting)

JPriest (547211) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449309)

Let me go out on a limb and say becasue the Macbook is also not a tablet PC? How come every time someone comes out with a nich product people from slashdot have to pipe in and say "I have no need for this, why do they even sell it?". If they are selling them then obviously _someone_ wants one.

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (3, Insightful)

punkass (70637) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449335)

Nice sig...pot, meet kettle...

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (2, Interesting)

Bassman59 (519820) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450172)

"If they are selling them then obviously _someone_ wants one."

they're offered for sale, but there are no bidders ...

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (3, Interesting)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449365)

People might buy it just for the coolness factor (like some do with Mac products in general).

But I agree, as long as it's mostly a hardware mod with minimal software integration, this is a half-assed solution.

Personally, I'm waiting for Apple come back into the PDA arena - one that could fit in the PCMIA slot of their notebooks for automatic syncing (or cooler still, a very thin one that would lock in to the top - behind the screen of their notebooks, perhaps in the center being a replacement light-up apple symbol like on the powerbook - letting you access notebook data without turning on the notebook completely).

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (1)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450083)

I'm more interested in them coming up with a proper universal PIM format. .Mac is getting there, but still relies on visible syncing between devices. The closest I've seen at the moment is Exchange 2003 / Outlook 2003's "Offline Mode", although OSS alternatives (Must sync to Outlook, a web interface and my PDA) are welcome.

A PDA which bluetooths to your laptop or desktop would be far more useful to me (ie silently updates things), although docking into the laptop for charging is a neat idea. The 'external access' idea seems a bit of a waste of time, just carry around the PDA if you need the quick data. Rely on the wireless silent sync to keep them both on the same page.

I've been waiting for new Apple PDAs also! (1)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 8 years ago | (#14451008)

Since 1998.

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14449888)

Save up another $500 and buy the new Macbook.

Last week the AZ answer to every possible problem was "Buy a Mac mini". I see you guys have upgraded. Nice.

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (1)

heresyoftruth (705115) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449979)

The macbook is $1799 at the Apple Education Store, so for only $399 more a student can the new macbook.

Re:Why would you buy one of these? (2, Funny)

heresyoftruth (705115) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450001)

Make that $299. As Barbie would say, "Math is hard."

Beacuse they are still a G-series? (0, Offtopic)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450120)

The apple version is intel.. ( yuk ) So there is your reason to buy one of these things.

Yes i expect to be modded down, yet again, for expressing my dislike for this change from PPC to ix86. But hey, its how i feel. And im NOT alone.

Re:Beacuse they are still a G-series? (1)

Moofie (22272) | more than 8 years ago | (#14451500)

I'd mod you down for blathering on about your opinion and not attempting to support your argument. Fortunately for you, I don't have mod points.

Boy, I sho'wish I could buy a slow-ass G4 instead of the dual-core new hotness...

(I love my 12" Powerbook, and I'm very much looking forward to replacing it with the 2nd gen Intel powerbook.)

take a dose of this (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14449189)

the iTablet = a hard pill to swallow

-Sj53

Hah (3, Insightful)

kuzb (724081) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449199)

So, should we start an office pool on how long it takes before Apple starts to sue them?

Re:Hah (1)

Delta-9 (19355) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449316)

Whats the over/under on this? 1 week?

I'll take the under.

Re:Hah (1)

yincrash (854885) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449334)

sue them for what?

it's an apple computer.

Re:Hah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14449482)

Trademark or copyright infringement. The text and imageslook suspiciously like something I've seen before . . . say, on Apple.com. The likelihood of initial confusion is high to the casual shopper considering the use of Apple's app icons and event the text format. I wouldn't wager on iTabs side on this one.

Re:Hah (1)

citizenr (871508) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450005)

it IS an Apple computer, co whats the fuss?

Re:Hah (1)

DashEvil (645963) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450097)

It's designed and named to look like an official apple product, and it is not. It's a derivative of an apple computer, it isn't one the instant the modded it.

Copyright infringement? (1)

achesterase (918544) | more than 8 years ago | (#14451443)

Well for starters, nearly all the images on their auction were taken directly from Apple's site. On top of that, their whole page layout is basically a 1:1 replica of Apple's page, which could easily be construed by Apple as misleading marketing practices.

Re:Hah (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449360)

I'm in.. 5$ says the auction is closed by next monday.

Re:Hah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14449839)

So, its illegal to buy something, modify it and attempt to resell it?
And i thought the world had already gone from bad to worse...

No Inkwell == No Way (4, Insightful)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449204)

I thought this was kind of cool until I read that Inkwell is not supported. What's up with that? It pretty much makes the tablet useless.

Re:No Inkwell == No Way (1)

piltdownman84 (853358) | more than 8 years ago | (#14451451)

Does anyone know of, or even better can recommend, a inkwell compatible touch screen?

I would love to put an iMac on my kitchen wall, but inkwell would be a must. From my limited knowledge inkwell seems to only work with tablets. And that would wouldn't be too good for what I have in mind.

Thanx in advance

Caveat Emptor (1)

OakDragon (885217) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449210)

From TFA: ThePlaceforitAll.com only has mock-up pics on its site, as does the eBay auction page, so there's no real indication as to what the final product will look like.

Any real consumer reviews of these from happy/unhappy customers?

Re:Caveat Emptor (2, Informative)

dleifelohcs (777508) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449621)

If you read the rest of TFA, you would know this is a one-of-a-kind. There's only one person right now who knows what it really looks like, and that's the creator of it.

They're not even built yet?!? (3, Insightful)

IAAP (937607) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449229)

The image above is a very close approximation of what iTab should look like when constructed. The iTab is not built yet.

Ok, it doesn't sound like they even have a prototype and it voids Apple's warrantee. This does not give me any confidence in their ability to do this work. I wouldn't want them fucking with my iBook.

I'll wait for Apple, thank you very much.

Good for them (2, Interesting)

flicken (182650) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449230)

What the market demands, the market gets, regardless of whether the original manufacturer listens or not. If this sells well, maybe Apple will hasten to complete their own tablet PC.

Re:Good for them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14451262)

There are currently ZERO bids.
Not looking good for the market demand as yet.

Interesting policy... (5, Funny)

Otter Escaping North (945051) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449234)

ThePlaceforitAll.com is the first to admit the hardware will not be supported by Apple, thanks to the warranty-warping modification work, but the software should still be covered. More worrying is the site's statement that it will not fix any broken iTablets.

ThePlaceforitAll.com: We break it! You buy it!

Vaporware (5, Informative)

chriss (26574) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449243)

Some remarks:

  • The concept: Take a 12" iBook, flip the display onto its back, attach a Keytec USB touchpanel [magictouch.com] on top and fix it all together. No further hardware modifications, of course you will not be able to use the keyboard or trackpad afterwards, and one USB port is already used by the touchscreen.
  • None of these have ever been build. From their site: "The iTab is not built yet. We will build them as they are sold." If they intend to sell 100 of them, shouldn't they at least build one prototype? All they have are some photoshopped mockups.
  • Obviously Apples warranty will no longer apply. They will give you no guarantee either. Even more: "We will not fix any broken iTabs." Great service. Should you buy it and it never works, just throw it away. But of course this will never happen, because "we will do extensive tests on the iBook before modifying to catch any problems with it. Any problems with a computer are usually immediately visible after these tests. So the chance of your iTab breaking after purchase is lower." Exactly. The whole warranty stuff is overrated, vendor tested hardware almost never fails.
  • Handwriting does not work. "The touchscreen technology used in iTab is not compatible with InkWell, Apple's handwriting recognition technology". Your only option is to purchase a third party virtual keyboard product.
  • The vendor has a 14 feedbacks from buyers at ebay, five of them since 09/2005, most of which where books about tennis, none hardware.

Don't touch it

Auction on ebay [ebay.com]
iTab homepage [theplaceforitall.com] (already slashdotted)

Chriss

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Re:Vaporware (1)

no_pets (881013) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449442)

Not only should they build a prototype if they plan to sell any, but I would think that at least one person at their company would want one and they should have already built one for that person.

Just my $.02.

Re:Vaporware (3, Funny)

HardCase (14757) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449529)

Even better, check out "Sam's Custom Built Computers" [theplaceforitall.com] . It's as vaporous as the iTab. But you can "Rock your next lan party".

Why do I feel like I'm looking at Something Awful's Awful Link of the Day?

-h-

Re:Vaporware (1)

jessecurry (820286) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449938)

LOL @ Big(more expendability)

Dream Computer Order Form [theplaceforitall.com]

And LOL @ Note: Almost any peice you can find anywhere else on the web we can incorporate in your computer.

What about this [alt-gifts.com] ?

Re:Vaporware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14450031)

LOL @ Big(more expendability)

"LOL @"? You're kidding, right?

Re:Now with more expendability! (1)

DocSavage64109 (799754) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450117)

Nice catch! I actually bothered to look at his form and missed that...

Re:Vaporware (1)

chris_eineke (634570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449947)

Don't you see? It has a <blink> tag embedded into an image. He probably paid a grand or two for that web site design. That makes it a respectful business. Now go and buy his stuff*.

* I am in no way affiliated with Sam's Home-Broken Computers.

Re:Vaporware (5, Funny)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450088)

Even better, check out "Sam's Custom Built Computers"

The best part of the "about" page:

You can call durring bussinness hours 9am-5pm easter time
So I guess they're only open for bussinness one day a year, and that's on a Sunday.

Re:Vaporware (1)

Zenmonkeycat (749580) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450617)

That would be the mind-killing flashing image, jaggy heading text stored as an image, and poor sense of proofreading ("purchased my [sic] customer"). Those three things alone wouldn't make a site a Something Awful candidate, but when you combine them, you have many of the hallmarks of one.

(To be fair, I did read his press release, and he is only twelve.)

Re:Vaporware (1)

geobeck (924637) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449566)

...most of which where books about tennis, none hardware.

So they're selling you a $1500 tennis racquet.

Re:Vaporware (1)

frdmfghtr (603968) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449738)

Even better is the shipping policy...

Will usually ship within 1 business day of receiving cleared payment.


Not built until sold, then out the door in a day of receiving payment? Talk about turnaround time for a prototype-less product!

I agree, stay away...stay far, far away!

(also wonder when Apple will come after them...the ad looks WAY too much like Apple's marketing work.)

Re:Vaporware (1)

c0dedude (587568) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449861)

It would be interesting if it gets no bids. With all the publicity, that would mean there's no one in the world stupid enough to buy this POS.

Re:Vaporware (2, Funny)

c0dedude (587568) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449884)

Strike that, I can think of a particular casino that will jump in at some point.

Re:Vaporware (1)

outsider007 (115534) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450195)

a little OT but does anyone know the laptop where you can flip the screen around the back and use it like a tablet? I saw a commercial for it awhile ago but I forgot the model.

Re:Vaporware (1)

Mattwolf7 (633112) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450449)

Almost every single Windows based tablet pc on the market.

Re:Vaporware (1)

supersocialist (884820) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450527)

There are several these days, if you're looking for a PC. The Toshiba m200 series is pretty good, but the plastic mask over the LCD is fragile and costs $150 to replace.

really really really old (0)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449255)

this has been done a long time ago

Re:really really really old (4, Informative)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449281)

incompatible handwriting tech, plus no repairs... (4, Insightful)

capsteve (4595) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449270)

the lack of inkwell compatability kind of defeats the whole purpose of getting a tablet mac in the first place... use another vendor for handwriting recognition, sure, but not as slick as inkwell for sure. plus extra cost.

but the bigger complaint would be that they will not repair any tablet, after they void the warranty for you. at the very least they should offer a limited warranty and repair policy. without any, they pool of prospective buyers is gonna narrow dramatically.

and you'd think after spending all that time figuring out how to make this work(which they haven't actually done it yet, not until you buy one, then they'll figure it out) they would have designed a better stylus holder. it looks more like an after thought.

so in the end, what you really end up paying for is someone elses laptop case mod experiment.
that you had to bid on thru ebay.

pass.

A very good configuration for a tablet PC (4, Funny)

ravee (201020) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449279)

The unit on offer contains a 1.33GHz PowerPC G4 CPU, 512MB of memory, 40GB of hard drive space and Mac OS X 10.4. It has 802.11g Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 2.0. The machine is signed by the modder, and individually numbered.

That is a pretty impressive configuration for a tablet PC. And at that price they better give a personal autograph too. Collectors items commands its own value in the market.

Re:A very good configuration for a tablet PC (1)

TheNetAvenger (624455) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449827)

That is a pretty impressive configuration for a tablet PC.

Ya, wow, it is almost half as fast as last years models of Windows Tablet PCs...

Has the world gone mad?

Ok, would it not be smarter to just buy a Windows Tablet PC, and run PearPC on it? (Sure you have to buy a copy of OSX).

This has to be a con or joke, I can't believe this is a real product.

drivers (2, Funny)

hostingreviews (941757) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449288)

What their saying is it wont work if you try to change the system basically. No drivers, no upgrades. I'd buy one if I were a millionare though.

I could do that (4, Funny)

jack_call (742032) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449291)

If you gave me $1500, I could get you an iBook, rip the screen off, and patch it back on woth duct tape ;-) Especially since I never would have to touch it again, let alone meet you...
I should start my own ebay store, selling hardware I tinkered with(read: FUBAR'ed)

Re:I could do that (1)

Ice Wewe (936718) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449359)

Haha. You have no idea how ****ing hard it is to replace anything in an iBook. To replace anything in a normal iBook takes about an hour, and that's just to get in! Imagine if you had to replace something on this, this piece of crap. It'd take forever, assuming it's even possible. Hey, you guys out there who are using flash lights to read your iBook screen, you need a new backlight display cable. That took me 5 hours to replace with help from a friend, and that was my third time in an iBook, so we weren't screwing around, we know what we're doing. I must say, I'm not at all happy with iBooks. Firstly, my harddrive breaks after a year and a half of gentle use. That took 4+ hours to replace. Next my display backlight cable went out, that cost about $50 CDN to replace, and that took me 4+ hours. Now, my new 1 1/2 year old Fujitsu HDD has about a GB of bad blocks. It was working fine, I loaned it to a friend for 2 weeks, I get it back and it's got all these bad blocks on it! I'm so tired of iBooks I went out and bought myself a nice shiny 15" PowerBook. I'm never, ever, ever, gettin another iBook. BTW, this product sucks. If you want something with a touch screen from Apple, pick up a Newton

Re:I could do that (4, Funny)

Prophet of Nixon (842081) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449507)

Back when the Newton came out, I was in high school, and had a basic tech class taught by a man conveniently named Mr. Newton. He ordered a Newton, and was ecstatic about it when it arrived. Just about the first thing he did was write his name on it... 'Jim Newton'. The handwriting recognition software thought about it for a moment, then translated it to 'Jim Neutered'. He never really loved it after that.

Problems with the iTab (4, Interesting)

Jazzer_Techie (800432) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449292)

The lack of Inkwell support is an issue, but I more importantly question the screen. As far as I know, there's no way to switch between Portrait and Landscape mode. TFA certainly doesn't mention this capablity, and after playing around with my PowerBook for a few minutes, OSX doesn't seem to naitively support that kind of orientation change. That's a big issue as it removes one of the cornerstones of Tablet fuctionality.

Re:Problems with the iTab (4, Informative)

Phroggy (441) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449425)

The lack of Inkwell support is an issue, but I more importantly question the screen. As far as I know, there's no way to switch between Portrait and Landscape mode. TFA certainly doesn't mention this capablity, and after playing around with my PowerBook for a few minutes, OSX doesn't seem to naitively support that kind of orientation change. That's a big issue as it removes one of the cornerstones of Tablet fuctionality.

OSX 10.4 does support rotating an external display, but it won't let me rotate the internal display on my iBook. Also, performance is severely impacted when you rotate a display.

Re:Problems with the iTab (2, Informative)

wall0159 (881759) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449717)

In System Preferences, if you click on Displays while holding , apparently it will allow you to rotate (90, 180, 270 deg) the internal monitor.

I've done this before on my G4 800 iBook with no ill effects, but for some reason that option doesn't appear for me now. Buggered if I know why..

(do this at your own risk of course! ;-)

iBook screen rotation in 10.4 (1)

DrewCapu (132301) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450186)

Were you holding down the comma key? Or the Option Key [macosxhints.com] ?

Re:Problems with the iTab (1)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450196)

I just tried it on a G5 desktop and it worked. I rotated it 90 degrees and was surprised how hard it was to steer the cursor to the revert button :-)

Re:Problems with the iTab (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14450544)

It's just one more transformation... it's not that much of a performance hit.

Re:Problems with the iTab (2, Funny)

ClamIAm (926466) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449560)

OSX doesn't seem to naitively support that kind of orientation change.

There has to be a good joke in here somewhere.

Re:Problems with the iTab (2, Insightful)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450146)

The lack of Inkwell support is an issue

I'd say the lack of actual existence is a more pressing issue. It reads as if some guy said "I'll bet I can do this. Somebody lend me your iBook." And everybody said no. So they're trying this.

Tablet PC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14449295)

I love the tablet PC, and would def check out an Apple one if they released it. However, this looks like a scam for a useless product (no handwriting recognition?).

Those talking about the lack of MS innovation should point the way to a linux or apple tablet PC. Nokia has a linux large PDA device that doesn't really count, and some company is re-releasing IBMs with a custom distro, but I have yet to see a distro available with full tablet functionality (including handwriting rec at least as good as MS's, if not hopefully better).

Apple's rights (1)

Douglas Simmons (628988) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449310)

I was under the impression that there was enough propriatery work in both Apple's software and hardware that they'd had full control over retail dealing of Apple products. They can even tell dealers at which price to sell things. Could Apple sue this outfit?

Re:Apple's rights (1)

standards (461431) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449916)

I was under the impression that there was enough propriatery work in both Apple's software and hardware that they'd had full control over retail dealing of Apple products. They can even tell dealers at which price to sell things. Could Apple sue this outfit?

We could all individually sue this outfit for having a stupid name.

But no, Apple has no particular rights when it comes to the modification or resale of Apple-branded equipment. I don't know of a contract or legal statute that the modifiers would be violating. There are no obvious copyright or trademark violations here.

I think you could buy an iBook, melt it into the shape of a ball, and sell it on eBay. And I think that Apple would be OK with that.

Re:Apple's rights (1)

damsa (840364) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449981)

Apple might sue the modder's supplier like they did when that one guy tried to sell a headless Mac couple of years ago.

Re:Apple's rights (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14450678)

Apple might sue the modder's supplier like they did when that one guy tried to sell a headless Mac couple of years ago.

Maybe, but Apple could only be successful if that supplier is breaking a legal agreement it made with Apple.

If the laptops are being bought at retail (likely in this case), Apple likely has no recourse, as a retail consumer is not agreeing to a contract.

This sort of sounds like the Outbound laptop..... (3, Interesting)

8127972 (73495) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449321)

..... where it had everything except ROM chips (which the user had to supply from a desktop Mac) so that they didn't get sued out of existance by Apple(http://www.lowendmac.com/clones/outbound.htm l [lowendmac.com] for more). Oddly enough, what put them out of business was the release of the first Mac Portable.

This time around they are taking iBooks and (allegedly) converting them into tablets. That is sure to get the attention of the horde of Apple lawyers who will surely sue them out of existance.

iI'm iSick iAnd eTired (-1, Offtopic)

seniorcoder (586717) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449328)

Isn't the habit of prefixing stuff with lower case letters such as i and e so yesterday? No more so than using the expression "so yesterday" I suppose. Well I just want to register my objection to all this eTrade, eMachines, iPod, iTablet, iBook crap.

Why was this posted? Seriously.. (0, Troll)

aychamo (932587) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449349)

Seriously, why was this posted? This is absolute garbage. The people have never built ONE of these. They don't have a single picture of any iTablet they have built. All they have is a poor photoshop mockup. You'd have to be a really big idiot to send them money. I'd love to see what happens if someone sent them money! To see the pile of shit (if anything at all) you would get in return.

0 bids on an ebay auction that was hit by /. (1)

petermgreen (876956) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449470)

is pretty damning yeah.

i wonder if anyone will actually buy this (if so /. should invite the buyer for an interview that would be fun).

Hey! That's my site! (-1, Troll)

sammykrupa (828537) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449413)

Should I moderate the comments to make me look better?

DARN! NOW I CAN'T MODERATE ANYTHING!

Re:Hey! That's my site! (1)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449941)

Parent comment (and blog) inspires confidence in this scheme. Yes.

Sheesh! (4, Insightful)

HardCase (14757) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449416)

I see that The Reg is suffering from the /. Editor Effect. "Tablet Mac draws bidders on eBay". Bidders? Unless zero has taken on a new value that I don't know about, I'd disagree.

Oh, and, for what it's worth, the auction does say that the computer will ship outside of the US. Although I honestly can't imagine who would care to risk their money on something that doesn't even exist.

I've got to say that I'm a little confused about the shipping time, too. The auction text says that it ships after it's modified - oh, and allow some time for the vendor to order one after you pay up. And for the touchscreen to arrive. But at the bottom of the auction, it ships a day after payment clears.

I'm really at a loss for a reason why this is on either /. or The Reg. Maybe it's not a scam, but it's certainly not news.

-h-

Re:Sheesh! (1)

tor528 (896250) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450401)

I always use the plural form of a word after zero. i.e. zero dollar, zero buyers, zero bidders.

In other words they do have bidders... zero of them!

Re:Sheesh! (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450631)

-- And to protect Mother Earth, each copy contains a certain percentage of recycled paper.
-- And what percent is that?
-- Zero. Zero's a percent!

Thank you Mr. Groening.

Its always fun to watch a train wreck (3, Funny)

davmoo (63521) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449433)

I bookmarked this auction. Not because I'd be stupid enough to buy one, but because I want to see how many chumps actually bid on this thing.

Major Discrepancy (5, Funny)

jelloshotgun (891531) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449434)

Anyone notice the title of TFA is: "Tablet Mac draws bidders on eBay" but when you go to the ebay link in the article you see "History: 0 bids"

Seems like the title of TFA should be "Tablet Mac draws wide skepticism from Slashdot"

Trolltouch... (3, Informative)

ErnstKompressor (193799) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449445)

Trolltouch [trolltouch.com] already makes a touch screen enabled iBook...

Super-low-profile, really cool...

fuck a b1t3h (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14449486)

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what about RAM (1)

akhomerun (893103) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449495)

if the keyboard is covered and you can never get to it again, then how do you get to RAM/Airport Extreme?

in iBooks, the RAM is located under the keyboard and you get to it by taking off the keyboard.

Re:what about RAM (1)

Large Green Mallard (31462) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450233)

The newest rev of iBook G4's (and everything else) don't have airport extreme cards that are user removable anymore. There's a card that plugs into the PCI bus that has a broadcom wireless chip on it that does pci bus bridging, and then connected to that chip on the same card is a USB controller and a bluetooth chipset.

The whole product here is a bad idea.. the RAM access is just one of the reasons not to get one :)

Overheating Problems? (4, Insightful)

keot (667523) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449674)

iBooks are not meant to be run with the lid closed, or at least that's what Apple says. So wouldn't this new permanently closed touchscreen lid cause the machine to overheat?

Power iTablet... (3, Informative)

Burning Plastic (153446) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449693)

This one is a bit older, but it's a lot more functional.

http://www.macmod.com/content/view/166/2/ [macmod.com]

I wouldn't mind one of these made using more recent components...

Re:Power iTablet... (1)

niteice (793961) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450379)

I met the guy that built that...unfortunately, it was in the air on the way to Macworld at the time, it must be really nice to use.

It's fer sh*t (1)

KajiCo (463552) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449783)

blah, no warranty, and overtly expensive. I'll just wait for an official apple tablet machine. I'm praying that they'll contract Wacom for the Cintiq technology.

Hah, someone is gonna get sued.... (1)

ShyGuy91284 (701108) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449803)

If not for bastardizing Apple's work (which is legal to an extent), for calling it an iTablet (or iAnything), and duplicating the design of their product descriptions to a T on their site.

Re:Hah, someone is gonna get sued.... (1)

kebes (861706) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450008)

It'll be interesting to see if Apple actually sues. This is a small-time outfit (total sales: 0, projected sales: 100... or maybe 0), so maybe Apple won't care.

On the other hand, if Apple does think about litigation, they have a very solid case. First off, copyright infringement. The guys have replicated text from the Apple site without even changing it, and have copied graphics too:
Apple [apple.com]
iTab [theplaceforitall.com]

In terms of trademark, they are pretty clearly infringing. The use of the "iThing" naming scheme, in relation to computer devices (and specifically Apple/Mac computers!) is pretty clearly trademarked by Apple. I think a very legitimate case could be made for saying that consumers will be confused. For instance, the iTab people even claim, in the specs "Product Family: iTab" ... as if it is officialy sanctioned by Apple. Slashdotters can tell the difference, but what about the population at large?

AFAIK it's legal to buy hardware, modify it, and resell it to someone else. They have not signed any contracts will Apple, and are buying the hardware at the retail price. However, it does seem that they are trying to act like a business, buying and selling in large quantities (they claim 100). I'm curious to know whether or not this is okay (if they resolved the trademark/copyright issues mentioned above).

Overall, this thing is such insane vaporware that we'll probably never see anything come of it. I can understand that they want to build them only as they are requested, but to not even have built a SINGLE ONE? That's crazy! How about you build one, sell it, and then start building the next? Who would actually buy the first one, without any guarantee that these guys know what they are doing?

No Way (1)

rawg (23000) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449824)

I would love to have an Apple Mac Tablet. But this isn't even close to what I'm thinking.

One of those picture thingies probably (1)

KZigurs (638781) | more than 8 years ago | (#14449844)

Yeah, what a business model. Going to market just a days before or at the day of keynote, where the "rumours" were about a tablet from mac itself.

I think you will find a disclaimer that you are buying a picture somwhere.

Wireless? (1)

slackadmin (840635) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450020)

"Every iTab ships with a built-in 56K V.92(2) modem for dial-up connections and 10/100BASE-T Ethernet to enable you to connect to a DSL, cable modem or a high-speed network. The Setup Assistant takes you through the steps of connecting to the Internet easily, whisking you online and surfing the Web in minutes." But no wireless, just seems strange (and less useful) to me in this day and age....

I call shenanigans! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14450188)

Ok, this thing doesn't really exist so how can they say *ANYTHING* factual about it?!?! I'd take this with a very large dose of salt. Looks like scam, sounds like a scam, ummmm, I'd say it's a SCAM! Given the complexity (or lack there of) of their other projects listed at theplaceforitall.com, I seriously doubt this is nothing more than a hoax; or criminal for that matter. I'm shocked that Google hasn't sued them yet, let alone Apple!

Check out the "Question from other members" (5, Funny)

Bassman59 (519820) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450199)

here [ebay.com]

Q: I want to make an urgent purchase of your apple laptop for my nephew's Mac project. I'm unable to bid due to the urgency and my short access to internet.Let me know its current condition and your last desired price as I hope to send money order via MoneyGram since I do not have access to paypal.I'll be offering a sum of 2450 usd including shipping via express post to Ibadan, Nigeria and let me know if this is ok by you. Kindly provide me your full address details and the name that will be on the payment form of your money order. I'm awaiting your response as speedy as possible Thanks and God bless! Vivian Jan-11-06

A: Let me check with the US State Department.

You're missing the point (1)

-Harlequin- (169395) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450267)

This article isn't useless. Seeing the lengths someone will go to to get less than a quarter of the functionality that I take for granted in the tablet-PC that I'm writing this on... it gives me warm fuzzies.

Mmmmm, warm fuzzies.

Copyright Issue (1)

UnidentifiedCoward (606296) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450712)

I wonder how Apple feels about their entire product page for the iBook being taken verbatim with only minor modifications and being relabled as iTab? From the eBay ad...
You Can Take It with You

Built-in wireless capability on every iTab means you can work or play anywhere you can hold a notepad. With AirPort Extreme technology standard, the iTab can surf the Web in any Wi-Fi hot spot, from hotels to bookshops. With an AirPort Extreme or AirPort Express Base Station in your room or office, you can get online from the comfort of your couch. And the included Bluetooth 2.0+EDR module lets you connect wirelessly to a wide range of peripheral devices, from mobile phones to wireless keyboards. The iTab also offers an incredible six hours of battery life, so it keeps going as long as you do. Fall for iBook

It continues of course. The entire product description. Oh, and they ripped off Apple's CSS style sheets also.

2 points (1)

jpellino (202698) | more than 8 years ago | (#14450856)

1. The actual auction says all they have is a drawing of one, the first one won't be built until it's ordered, he hasn't built one yet, and it's your keister if it breaks. I'll pass.

2. Isn't there a way to build a stylus that can be used on a trackpad? Granted it's not a great space to draw in, but I'd grab a $29 stylus for occasional Photoshop etc. use rather than a $100 drawing pad that has to be lugged... IANAEE so this to me is like Asimov's calculator - but I know I'd line my pockets with them if I were running a laptop-based lab / school / etc...

Takes one to know one? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14451258)

The Q&A from ThePlaceforitAll.com's e-Bay auction:

Q: I want to make an urgent purchase of your apple laptop for my nephew's Mac project. I'm unable to bid due to the urgency and my short access to internet.Let me know its current condition and your last desired price as I hope to send money order via MoneyGram since I do not have access to paypal.I'll be offering a sum of 2450 usd including shipping via express post to Ibadan, Nigeria and let me know if this is ok by you. Kindly provide me your full address details and the name that will be on the payment form of your money order. I'm awaiting your response as speedy as possible Thanks and God bless! Vivian
        Jan-11-06

A: Let me check with the US State Department.


Haha, Nigerian bank scams are so 5 years ago! Listen, "Vivian", if you want to make it in this business, you gotta get with the times. Be creative! Think big! I'll try help you out here. Hmmm, I'm thinking of something along the lines of ... a product that doesn't exist yet. You don't know how to build such a product? That's okay, charge up front! Have the Register and Slashdot report on your e-Bay auction (this is the easy part: they'll report anything) to an audience of millions. Oh, and here's the piece-de-resistance: put a little caption (see above?) on your auction page that disassociates yourself with scammers. Alright, I think we're getting somewhere now, Vivian...!

hoax? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14451387)

Interesting that there's only one straight-on frontal view of the iTab. There's no indication of how it opens, or whether it can be switched back and forth between a labtop.
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