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Building the Godzilla of PVRs

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the because-you-can dept.

Hardware Hacking 318

EvolvedHumanoid writes "In a blog post, Percy Bell of SnapStream Media details how he built 'Godzilla', an 11-tuner PVR machine with HDTV support using off-the-shelf components. At $4284.90, the end result sports 1TB storage for recorded content and has to be one of the coolest PVRs ever built."

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One of the coolest PVRs ever built? (5, Funny)

Caspian (99221) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513316)

With all that hardware, I'd guess that it is, in fact, one of the hottest PVRs ever built! ;)

Re:One of the coolest PVRs ever built? (2, Insightful)

_Sharp'r_ (649297) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513513)

Yeah, they make a big point about wanting it to be cool enough to eliminate HTPC fan noise, then choose the latest Intel dual core CPU. Perhaps that part needs a little rethink?

Mindless overkill... (5, Insightful)

FalconZero (607567) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513320)

four Seagate 250GB SATA drives for storing our BTV recordings and two Seagate 160GB SATA drives for the OS and other applications.
320GB for OS and Applications?!?!? - I know Windows is a bit bloated but why the hell would you want 320GB for Apps? Thats 68DVD's worth of application! And I only know of a handfull of apps that are DVD sized. And before anyone says "maybe they've got lots of (big) games" this thing is specifically (and clearly obvious from the hardware) a PVR.

Re:Mindless overkill... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513342)

I haven't RTFA yet but unless it says otherwise it's probably a RAID 1.

Re:Mindless overkill... (1)

FalconZero (607567) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513411)

Probably not, they specifically mention that the 'data' drives (the 4 250gbs) are raid 5, and say nothing of the 160s. Anyway, since this is intended to be a PVR why bother with mirroring? Why not just install all of the (supposedly enormours) applications, and dump the drive to tape?

Re:Mindless overkill... (3, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513423)

Having a mirror means no downtime, which means never missing a show (or, perhaps, 11 shows) because your PVR is down. It's excessive, but it's not without reason.

Re:Mindless overkill... (1)

FalconZero (607567) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513453)

I suppose so, I'm just so used to upgrading a drive before it dies. I can't remember the last time one of my drives (at home) failed.

Re:Mindless overkill... (2, Informative)

NerveGas (168686) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513596)

In building several-terabyte arrays from IDE drives - with dedicated fans blowing right over the drives, and HUGE fans ventilating the case - I've found that when you're talking about nearly a dozen drives, it's not long before you're going to have a failure. In large arrays of Maxtors, Seagates, and Western Digitals, I have yet to go a year without at least one drive failing.

In fact, just a couple of days ago, one of my Western Digital RAID edition drives started hiccuping, and got dropped out of an array. That particular set of drives has only been in service for about 4 months.

steve

Re:Mindless overkill... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513514)

No, the 4 250gb's are striped, which is how they got 1 TB out of the whole array with 4 drives and not 12:

We configured the four 250GB drives as RAID 0 (striping) and formatted them with NTFS and 64k blocks to increase the disk size and performance.

Seems silly - if one drive goes, the whole array dies - and on a beast like this, heat is likely to SERIOUSLY degrade the life of those drives...

Re:Mindless overkill... (1)

havardi (122062) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513394)

Probably Raid 1, and 160GB drives are pretty cheap anyway... why not?

Re:Mindless overkill... (1)

FalconZero (607567) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513438)

From the article, they're $95 each. And as for why not, because adding extra unneccesary bits doesn't make it better. They could strap a cheesegrater to the side, and it wouldn't make it a better PVR, just a more expensive PVR (with the ability to make grated cheese for nachos while watching films.)

Re:Mindless overkill... (4, Funny)

kalpol (714519) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513517)

>ability to make grated cheese Fondue, you mean to say.

Re:Mindless overkill... (0, Redundant)

kalpol (714519) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513566)

>ability to make grated cheese
Fondue, you mean to say.

don't you hate it when you forget a break tag and it ruins your lame-ass joke that you were kind of hoping would get moderated +5 Funny? My day is ruined now.

Re:Mindless overkill... (1)

friedmud (512466) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513526)

Actually... strapping a cheeseburger to the side would _most definitely_ make it a better PVR!

You sir, (1)

modecx (130548) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513563)

You sir, are a genius. I bet you hear it all the time! This has got to be the best invention since, well, whatever Ron Popeil last invented. It's simply outstanding, because not only can you grate your cheese, you can melt it over your tortilla chips at the exhaust side of all of those hard drives. In fact, it may be ideal to have a nacho conveyor that would simply do it all for you!

Re:Mindless overkill... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513406)

Perhaps they want the OS and Apps on diffrent spindles for speed?

Re:Mindless overkill... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513431)

It's okay. Really.

It doesn't make you any less of a man.

Re:Mindless overkill... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513496)

What I don't get is 11 tuners but only 1 TB of space. I've got 2 Hauppauge PVR-250 cards in my backend system and 600GB of space and the only time I've ever come across an instance where it would've been nice to have 3 tuners was when football ran long pushing Cold Case back and causing it to conflict with Desperate Housewives and Law and Order Criminal Intent. But 11 tuners? WTF is this guy recording where he has that many conflicts in scheduling? I'd check on the site but his site is slashdotted. And 1 TB of space isn't really that much these days, especially with HDTV content. I record at about 1.6GB per hour in standard format and after a few years I'm to the point where I've got around 480 GB of stuff I absolutely cannot delete (it's my "favorite show archive") so I really need to buy some extra drives at this point.

Re:Mindless overkill... (2, Insightful)

ichimunki (194887) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513683)

That's what I was going to say, eleven tuners and only 1TB of HD? And the HD is only RAID0 to boot (and the primary reason for RAID0 here is performance because you are going to need fast disk I/O if you get 11 tuners all trying to work at the same time). In this situation if one of the four drives goes down, you lose a lot of data. I'd rather see multiple PVR backends managing the tuners, each tuner with its own dedicated drive. Double the number of drives and go to RAID1 and then you don't have to worry about a drive failure much either.

I mean, can you imagine a beowulf cluster of PVRs? ;)

Re:Mindless overkill... (2, Insightful)

cloudmaster (10662) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513584)

And before anyone says "maybe they've got lots of (big) games" this thing is specifically (and clearly obvious from the hardware) a PVR


Yeah, because it makes no sense to play games on the kick-ass PC you just built and hooked up to your best TV / media distribution system. Probably better to put the games elsewhere.

Uh...not so godzilla... (2, Insightful)

bassgoonist (876907) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513328)

Pentium EE...dual core with htt...bad combination...very silly choice. FX-60 would be more impressive.

Re:Uh...not so godzilla... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513388)

not to mention a 6600...not enough balls for hd...

Speed record for slashdotting? (1)

Michael Woodhams (112247) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513331)

Only two comments posted, and it is slashdotted already.

Over kill (4, Funny)

Belseth (835595) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513336)

an 11-tuner PVR machine with HDTV support using off-the-shelf components.

Is there 11 channels of porn?

The Software (3, Insightful)

dch24 (904899) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513346)

Who else thinks that Beyond TV 4 Server, at $69.99, is a really great price for software that can keep all those eleven tuners busy at once? !!

Is this the result of open source driving the price of software down? If this were a Microsoft product, just the word "Server" on the package would cost you an additional $300 or more.

Re:The Software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513474)

Or you could use MythTV, which can also keep all 11 tuners busy at once....in fact, if you want to build a 40 tuner card PVR, you can put tuners in multiple computers. (Beyond TV may be able to do this also, I don't know)

Re:The Software (5, Informative)

thebosz (748870) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513613)

If you'd like a free PVR, I personally like GB-PVR [gbpvr.com]. It can handle as many tuners as your machine can handle plus it has a bunch of additional features. Beyond TV, Sage TV and Microsoft MCE all cost money, but none of them do anything that GB-PVR can't.

It's not open source, unfortunately, but has a very active development guy and a very good plug-in architecture.

My PVR is an AMD Sempron 2200+ with 768MB RAM, 360GB Hard drive space, two Hauppauge tuners (250 and 150-MCE) running in a small case on a Chaintech 7NIF2 board running Win2000. Everything works flawlessly and my wife loves it! She records all her shows and watches them whenever she wants. I've got about half of our DVD collection ripped and converted to Xvid sitting on there, ready to go (those discs aren't getting anywhere near the kids!) and everything is awesome.

When we move into our house, I'm going to run network through the walls and have a Hauppauge Media MVP [hauppauge.com] as a small, quiet front-end in the bedroom.

The PVR itself is fairly noisy, but when the TV's on, you can't hear it so it doesn't really matter. When I do an upgrade, I might get another MVP and put the main server into the closet.

I originally tried MythTV (using KnoppMyth [mysettopbox.tv]), but after a week of hassle and wrestling with it, I gave up and tried GB-PVR. I haven't tried MythTV since. I'd like to have only open-source, free software running, but I couldn't get it to work. I hope to be able to switch over in the future, but for right now, we're quite happy.

Fan failure? (3, Insightful)

WhiteWolf666 (145211) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513350)

That's a whole lot of heating being generated. Exhaust fan failure=lots of dead harddrives?

What about heat on the TV tuners? Or the video card?

Methinks one would be much better serviced by a rack of systems, this thing would run WAY too hot.

Re:Fan failure? (1)

Krach42 (227798) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513727)

Methinks one would be much better serviced by a rack of systems, this thing would run WAY too hot.

You still run into heat issues even with racks. But I agree, split it up into a HD rack, and a pvr rack, and you'll likely avoid much of the heat issues they're having.

Of course, in rackmount you don't have a whole lot of room to work with, and I don't know how possible it would be to get the four PCIe cards into a rackmount system.

Impressive but useless. (2, Insightful)

gasmonso (929871) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513356)

I always love to hear about stuff like this. However, good luck finding enough content worth recording. I have a PVR with 1 tuner and I struggle for stuff to record. Most of TV is crap except for Battlestar Galactica of course and Family Guy :)

http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]

Re:Impressive but useless. (0, Offtopic)

RickPartin (892479) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513534)

What does religiousfreaks.com have to do with your post? Your Slashdot profile has an option for a sig like myself and many others use.

Re:Impressive but useless. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513577)

At least on my cable system, there are at least 11 channels of religious freaks -- more if you include all the news networks. :)

Re:Impressive but useless. (1)

geeber (520231) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513651)

Not to mention the fact that it can record more tv than it is physically possible to actually watch.

Mine is bigger (4, Interesting)

killercoder (874746) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513363)

My Setup:

2.6 Terrabytes of Disk Space (2x Raid 5 array's in 2x chassis').
6 Tuners - 2 SDTV, 2 HDTV, 2 Digital Cable (QAM256)

MythTV is very powerful, supports alot of tuners, and ALOT of folks out there have small-to-large setup's. 2005 was the year of the PVR - this article is simply a mine is bigger statement that can't be backed up.

Re:Mine is bigger (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513424)

What's a Terrabyte? Is it a byte the size of the Earth?

Re:Mine is bigger (0, Flamebait)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513464)

Yea, but isn't Myth a PITA to get setup correctly? Much less getting linux drivers to work with some hardware.

Re:Mine is bigger (2, Insightful)

nagora (177841) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513559)

Yea, but isn't Myth a PITA to get setup correctly? Much less getting linux drivers to work with some hardware.

On Gentoo Myth was no sweat, just a normal install. The hardware I'm using is a USB DVB tuner I bought for 50 quid. 2.4.13 Kernel already had support built in so it was plug-and-play! Myth has actually been the easiest hardware upgrade (apart from new harddrives) I've ever had on Linux.

I did have some problems with the programme guide, but only because I was greedy and wanted two weeks in advance instead of just one.

TWW

Re:Mine is bigger (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513624)

Yep, MythTV is a breeze. I did a full gentoo install and got mythtv setup and working in about a day and a half - and most of that time was spent setting up gentoo (first time gentoo/linux user, been using unix for a few years now thou)

Re:Mine is bigger (0)

cloudmaster (10662) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513722)

Yes, and if you don't care about TV tuning, merely wanting to organize your DVDs and music on one electronic mecha-machine, MyTH is a waste. Why do I have to configure a TV card and add channel listings to even use this program again? I use Freevo, since it's easier to set up (IMHO) and doesn't asume that its main purpose in life is to record stuff. Heck, Freevo lets you remove the "watch TV" entry (and most anything else) from the main menu - and I think the interface is as nice / nicer than Myth's.

As an aside, I'd be more impressed if the guy had one tuner that could handle multiple channels. With GnuRadio I can use a single tuner to record several radio stations effectively simultaneously - and the machine isn't burning the house down. Nyah. :)

Re:Mine is bigger (1)

whmac33 (524094) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513664)

I have Myth too, but am unable to record digital because I just have PVR 250's. Does your QAM card only record the clear unencrypted channels? If so, are there many channels on your cable system that aren't encrypted?

I have 4 tuners, and they all get used at the beginning of the season when my wife wants to check out all the new shows. Towards the end of the season I don't think all 4 get used very often. I currently have 250G of storage, but we don't retain stuff that we have already watched. If anything I'll burn shows to DVD's to never be watched again :)

Heh (3, Interesting)

aftk2 (556992) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513369)

While this is mostly a solution in search of a problem, it would be kind of cool to have in a dorm room environment. You could install it, and then have some sort of signup process through which users reserve specific chunks of time, for their various shows. While it's doubtful that one person would ever want to watch 11 programs that were on simultaneously, 11 different people might.

The Coral Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513382)

Here it is [nyud.net], it works great.

No, I'm not a karma whore. I'm posting as an Anonymous Coward and won't get any karma for it. I just want people to be able to actually read the article, because it is pretty neat and I want one. Have fun!

Re:The Coral Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513609)

"No, I'm not a karma whore. I'm posting as an Anonymous Coward and won't get any karma for it. I just want people to be able to actually read the article, because it is pretty neat and I want one. Have fun!"

Sounds like Mr. Obvious needs some (more) therapy.

It's a giant ad! (4, Insightful)

rsborg (111459) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513384)

Ok, absurdity of 11 tuners aside, I noticed some serious warning signs that this project really didn't seem all that well thought out, and instead seems like a huge AD for beyondTV, Intel, and pretty much all the "high end" components you need for your media center type beast.

"Heat is the biggest enemy when building a quiet HTPC system. "
Uh... sure. Agreed.

"You have to sometimes sacrifice a quiet HTPC so the machine can cool itself efficiently. "
Hmm... so it supposed to be quiet, but not really.

"We choose the Intel Pentium D 840 "Extreme Edition" Processor!"
Ok, quiet is RIGHT OUT now, and what a way to add to your heat problem :-)

"While trying to push the Godzilla PVR to its limit we experienced an overheating and fan noise issue. "
LOL. Stopped reading right about there.

Re:It's a giant ad! (3, Interesting)

Amouth (879122) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513462)

my favorite is the first pics.. al the hardware layed out.. on carpet... carpet. not a table but carpet.. that has to be good for all that stuff

Re: carpet (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513589)

In that pic they are trying to use the static electricities to loosen up the electrons. With the electrons loosened they can tranfer the datas faster. They said when the electrons are too tight only 10 of the tuners can be used at a time.

The biggest enemy when building a quiet HTPC (4, Funny)

lildogie (54998) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513567)

"Heat is the biggest enemy when building a quiet HTPC system."

With _noise_ a close second?

Re:It's a giant ad! (1)

dildatron (611498) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513617)

My favorite was choosing RAID 0. Damn idiots. Raise your hand if you like to lose a TB if one drive fails... and with as much heat as that thing makes, one drive WILL fail.

Raid 5 would have performed well and given some redundancy so they don't lose their entire collection of Oprah.

Latent heat to... (2, Funny)

IAAP (937607) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513387)

make popcorn! And then, get a soda machine or beer keg, catheter for, well, you know and...voila! The ULTIMATE home enterainment system.

Re:Latent heat to... (1)

s4ck (895807) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513618)

This is fire hazard!

have you heard this machine run? sounds like it's about to blow up!

That's The Problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513398)

Cost is the problem with all DIY PVR machines. As soon as you buy a PC with enough CPU or Video horsepower, you have already spent more than double what an off the shelf unit would cost. Then there are the issues with size, noise, heat, aesthetics...

Until you can buy a two tuner PC with a highquality video card for under $300, DIY PVR's make no sense.

Re:That's The Problem (2, Informative)

NerveGas (168686) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513495)

They do if you already have hardware laying around. For instance, I have a couple of AthlonXP 1800's sitting around, so I'm considering building a PVR out of them. The fact that they're on NForce2 motherboards with SoundStorm and SPDIF out doesn't hurt, either.

11 Tuners ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513415)

Since the post appears to have been slashdotted already, can anyone shed some light on how he got so many tuners into a computer ?

There has to be some USB connected boxes there - I haven't seen any motherboards that can handle that many PCI cards at once.

Re:11 Tuners ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513480)

With all of its components installed, the Godzilla PVR had little room to breath. Using the Intel D955XBK motherboard we could fit two PCIe x16 cards, three PCI cards, and one PCIe x1 card. We installed three Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500s and one PowerColor PCIe x1 Theater 550 Pro based on the ATI Theater 550 chipset. The Theater 550 Pro card from PowerColor is one of the few PCIe TV tuner cards on the market. Since all of our available PCI and PCIe x1 slots were taken up we had to USB HD tuners. We installed four DVico Fusion HDTV5 USB Gold tuner cards. We wanted to install an ATI X850 video card, nVidia GeForce 7800 or even a pair of PCIe cards in SLI mode, but the Godzilla PVR would not allow it. Most of these high end cards are longer and required power adapters to power the card not allowing them to fit inside of Godzilla. We resorted to installing a passively cooled NVIDIA GeForce 6600. This barely fit in the case, with only millimeters to spare.

ta da [mirrordot.org]
Watch/listen to the video of before the heatsink upgrade, was a noisey beast to say the least!

Re:11 Tuners ? (2, Informative)

sootman (158191) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513626)

Snapstream built a box with 10 tuners a while ago. http://www.snapstream.com/Community/Articles/hydra /default.asp [snapstream.com] They used five Hauppauge PVR-500MCE cards which each have two tuners.

These guys used an odd mix: 3x Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-500, 1xAnalog PCIe Tuner: PowerColor, and 4x Digital HDTV Tuners.
So I guess the 3 analog cards are 2 tuners each, then the other analog tuner, and 4 HDTV via USB = 11.

Spinal Tap would be proud.

Remote control (1)

msbsod (574856) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513426)

I would add a decent remote control, like the Logitech Harmony 890 [logitech.com] for about $400 (that's right!), merely 10% of the total cost. ;-)

Re:Remote control (1)

MrPeavs (890124) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513500)

If you want a descent remote, sure, go with a Logitech Harmoney 890.

If you want a amazing remote, go with a Philips Pronto NG [philips.com] or better yet the ProntoPro NG [philips.com] or way better yet the iPronto [philips.com].

I have the Pronto NG and for $200, it is a steal, not to mention a killer remote to end all remotes.

Extreme Edition? (1)

grahamdrew (589499) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513444)

"What makes the "Extreme Edition" processor different from a regular Pentium D processor? A regular Pentium D processor has two cores which Windows XP sees as two physical processors. The Extreme Edition processors adds hyper-threading to each core! This allow Windows XP to run 4 simultaneous threads at once!"

Maybe someone can correct me on this, but I though the difference between the regular Pentiums and the Extreme Edition was a fuckton of cache. Does Intel intentionally disable hyperthreading on the non-Extreme Pentium Ds?

But why? (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513445)

I have a dual tuner PVR (Dish Network 522) and am really happy with it. I have yet to run into an issue where I want to record three programs at once. Do I just not watch enough TV or do these people watch WAY to much?

Hmm, wonder what's going to be on the box?!? (1)

egriebel (177065) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513447)

1TB storage, $4k, 11 tuners? Ok, there's no way in Hell that you are married! (can't rtfa as it's slashdotted)

And, since you are not married, is it going to be stuffed with only Sci-Fi Network shows, ripped movie DVDs, and top-quality pr0n?

Re:Hmm, wonder what's going to be on the box?!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513561)

Ok, there's no way in Hell that you are married!

I think this is concrete evidence that he *is* married.

Just what I've been waiting for, (1)

Grue_Food (442478) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513455)

a PVR with enough storage space for all my favorite shows and movies, plus an alternative heat source!
It'll add the realism of being able to actually cook marshmallows in front of that recorded fireplace video!

He should run his site on that machine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513468)

Wordpress fall down, go boom.

New king of the losers... (2, Informative)

Duncan3 (10537) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513472)

We have a new winner...

The old king was a 45 year old 350lb man who spent his days in his parents basement watching porn and playing WoW pretending to be a 16 year old girl.

But these guys that built an 11 tuner PVR becasue they just couldnt get enough porn blow right past 11 on the loser scale.

Please find your nearest suicide booth, ASAP.

Re:New king of the losers... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513667)

Why are you here?

Re:New king of the losers... (2, Insightful)

King_of_Losers (947349) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513671)

The old king was a 45 year old 350lb man who spent his days in his parents basement watching porn and playing WoW pretending to be a 16 year old girl.

you hit the nail right on the head.

Confusingly unuseful (2, Insightful)

heatdeath (217147) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513492)

I used to live in a house with 7 people, and we had a DVR that had 2 tuners. (so, you could record on one, and watch on the other)

Occasionally we would have conflicts with someone recording a movie during a regularly recorded TV show, and someone else was bored and wanted to surf channels - but even with 7 people, 3 or 4 tuners definitely would have done it. 11 is so overkill it's not even funny.

However...technology for technology's sake, I suppose.

Hmmm? (1)

darmey (910068) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513507)

What's a PVR anyway? Pathetic Virgin Russian? No, thanks, I've been living in Moscow for 5 years and I'm tired of them already. And now the Godzilla comes...

Meh... (0, Flamebait)

benjamindees (441808) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513511)

Look at me, I can spend money...

More interestingly, does anybody have any suggestions for cheap hardware to get started playing around with GnuRadio [gnu.org] and what I can use it for? FM or shortwave radio would be nice...

waste $ on h/w won't pay for content (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513518)

I don't get this geeky thing where you'll spend godawful amounts of money on hardware (and create a huge electricity bill and cooling problem to boot) but take a hissy fit about paying for a DVD or a CD you want to enjoy. It reminds me of clients my law firm had who'd spend gobs of money for us to fight their personal tax assessments.

At $15 each, you could buy 285 DVDs. I can guarantee that when you pay for entertainment you're a lot more choosy about what you watch. It reminds me of software pirates who spend so much time and energy collecting software (or porn fanatics, too, I guess) but never actually enjoy what they've collected.

Re:waste $ on h/w won't pay for content (1)

Ignignot (782335) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513593)

Or better yet, you could have 8 at a time unlimited rentals from netflix for about 87 months... and I doubt that this hardware will last long enough to survive that long without replacement, not to mention its electricity bill!

mi8us 2, Troll) (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14513569)

BSDI is also dead, in eternity...Romeo

From a SnapSream Employee (0, Offtopic)

Daedius (740129) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513603)

Haha, holy sh!t, you all just slashdotted and digged us at the same time ;P

Pre-recorded Hard Drives? (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513622)

Is there any place where someone can buy a 250GB hard drive that is pre-loaded with movies or Simpsons episodes? If not, then maybe I should start a little black market business...

Re:Pre-recorded Hard Drives? (1)

Thanatopsis (29786) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513634)

Enjoy pound me in the ass federal prison then. That sort of things leads to extended vacations at Club Fed.

Re:Pre-recorded Hard Drives? (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 7 years ago | (#14513699)

Enjoy pound me in the ass federal prison then. That sort of things leads to extended vacations at Club Fed.

Not everyone is so lucky to live in the "great" USA, where anal rape accepted as part of the justice system.
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