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Japanese Scientists Dig up Million-year-old Ice

samzenpus posted more than 8 years ago | from the ancient-daiquiri dept.

News 96

ToxikFetus writes "During expedition to Antarctica to research past climate patterns, Japanese scientists unearth million-year-old block of ice, breaking the previous mark by 200,000 years."

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i wonder... (3, Funny)

baub (948313) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551058)

is it still cold?

Re:i wonder... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14551636)

if not they would have found million year old water....

Sadly, (5, Funny)

Odin_Tiger (585113) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551060)

the sample was destroyed when the scientists decided to celebrate with drinks on the rocks.

Re:Sadly, (1)

Galston (895804) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551158)

Lets drink to this wonderful discovery. Mine is a whiskey on the rocks with no ice.

Re:Sadly, (1)

madaxe42 (690151) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552307)

You joke, but at the Dome C drilling site upon completion, everyone had whiskey on the rocks - on 1,000,000 year old ice - apparently it practically exploded in the glass due to the pressure of the gas trapped within.

Million year old ice clue for climate? (-1, Redundant)

8Complex (10701) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551076)

It doesn't take much of a scientist to see that it was cold.

Say what...? (0, Troll)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551096)

The Japanese don't have the technology to create ice cubes and are now ruining the environment for ancient ice cubes? Where's the Sierra Club when you need them!

Re:Say what...? (1)

NobodyExpects (843016) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551383)

The Japanese don't have the technology to create ice cubes and are now ruining the environment for ancient ice cubes? Where's the Sierra Club when you need them!


They are harvesting the ice cubes for scientific purposes. The fact that they plan to consume them in drinks later is merely an effort not to waste a precious resource.

bible is teh truth (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14551097)

you silly secular atheist. earth is only 6000 year old.

Re:bible is teh truth (1)

bvwj (473084) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551868)

Yes, but how old did the ice appear to be when God created it?

Re:bible is teh truth (2, Insightful)

vettemph (540399) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553927)

About as old as God appeared to be when the Christians created Him.

Re:bible is teh truth (1)

securityfolk (906041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14561484)

coward

Re: bible is teh truth (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554337)

> you silly secular atheist. earth is only 6000 year old.

He's not a secular atheist, he's an Orthodox Reform Congregational atheist!

Scientific errors (2, Funny)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551117)

There are many obvious errors in the methods they used of measuring the age of that ice. Even the pictures in that article are clearly Photoshopped.

I'm a teenager, and my high school biology class here in Topeka School District has already performed a detailed analysis of these biased claims. Since the ice cannot be more than about 6,000 years old, and the article even advocates the "fact" of climate change and microbial evolution, you can easily see how they're trying to destroy religion in America.

This country (and Japan too) is going downhill fast. The end times are near.

Re:Scientific errors (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551171)

Wait until you get into college. They will teach you how to use photoshop properly for scientific experiments. On a Mac, no less! :P

Re:Scientific errors (1)

kryonD (163018) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551337)

Ahh...you fortunate souls in Topeka, at least your leaders are honest about violating the seperation between Church and State. Here in Utah, the current Bill (SB 96) distinctly avoids any use of words relating to Religion, Creation, or Intelligent Design. It also fails to identify by name any of the "other theories" that the teachers are supposed to indicate that exist.

Next thing you know Orin Hatch will be pushing a bill to put the words "In Someone We Trust" on our money and swear up and down this solves the religion problem because it doesn't say "God".

Re:Scientific errors (0)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551502)

Could replace "God" with "George" (i.e., "In George We Trust"). Of course, I'm refering to George Washington of the One Dollar Bill and not King George, past or present. ;)

Re:Scientific errors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14555521)

That's no fun.

The planet Uranus was orginally going to be called "George" after the King George.

Following continuity then, I propose it be changed to "In Uranus We Trust".

Re:Scientific errors (1)

flood6 (852877) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551615)

If you look closely at the top-right of the picture you can see a noodley appendage.

Yarr? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14555071)

If you look closely at the top-right of the picture you can see a noodley appendage.

Flying Spaghetti Monsterism holds that a decline in piracy leads to global warming. But hasn't there been a sharp increase in piracy through napster, winmx, kazaa, and now emule and bittorrent over the last six years?

Re:Yarr? (2, Funny)

RockModeNick (617483) | more than 8 years ago | (#14556162)

I think it has to be piracy on the high seas, so only those offshore CD duplicating boats count...

Re:Scientific errors (1)

thpdg (519053) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553633)

Wow, I hate to be naive, but are you being sarcastic?
This country is going down hill fast, but it's because these brain dead conservatives are starting to gain voice in DC and on TV and are trying to make everyone one else feel wrong and stop forward progress. They're like the Amish, or something. "We know we're backward, but we want to be right, ha ha ha!"

the important question (2, Insightful)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551125)

So, the important questions is this: What was water made of 1,000,000 years ago?

(Yes, it's a joke. Yes, I'm aware that this is significant because the trace amounts of other minerals and elements that they'll find in it will be major signifiers of the atmospheric composition back then.)

Japanese Scientists Dig up... (2, Funny)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551139)

Japanese scientists dig up million-year-old ice and find a giant moth. Godzilla saves the day.

Re: Japanese Scientists Dig up... (1)

ShadowXOmega (808299) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552596)

Noo
they find a cave, and inside a barrel like thing with lots of appendages and a star shapped head....with a hard skin ..... that hides a terrible secret....muaahah ( ohh, no! is in the necronomicon!..run!)

Whale Meat (1)

biocute (936687) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551147)

What I want to know is if there is frozen whale meat in that block of ice.

Ice versus.... (3, Interesting)

955301 (209856) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551177)

I wonder, would this have been news if it was a rock core sample? Or perhaps some really deep dirt? Understanding of course that ice potentially contains more to study because it's a fluid at temperatures that live is able to exist in, but it seems a little strange to suggest that people outside this field of science should get excited. It's a piece of solid material which at some point in the past was a liquid:

Japanese Scientists Dig up Million-year-old Rock

News Science
ToxikFetus writes "During expedition to Africa to research past climate patterns, Japanese scientists unearth million-year-old block of rock, breaking the previous mark by 200,000 years."


Re:Ice versus.... (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551234)

It's a piece of solid material which at some point in the past was a liquid

It was probably a vapor at some point, too.

Re:Ice versus.... (4, Insightful)

spurtle15 (899792) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551303)

Yes, but it is easier for bubbles to form in ice that contains trapped ancient air samples. It's the old air they're excited about.

OK, ice versus old rock (1)

BerntB (584621) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551492)

I wonder, would this have been news if it was a rock core sample? [...] it seems a little strange to suggest that people outside this field of science should get excited.
Well, old rock made the BBC [bbc.co.uk] .

You can find more news articles about old rocks if you Google for a minute.

Re:Ice versus.... (1)

Vellmont (569020) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551730)


I wonder, would this have been news if it was a rock core sample?

A million years is actually very young for rock. For comparison, the ordinary everyday rock from Devils Tower in Wyoming varies from between 100-200 million years old. The grand canyon ranges in age from 200 million to 2 billion years old. So I think it's safe to say that someone digging up rock that's merely a million years old wouldn't make the news.

Re:Ice versus.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14551860)

<moron>The grand canyon was formed by Noah's flood and is obviously around 4500 years old.</moron>

Re:Ice versus.... (1)

rtb61 (674572) | more than 8 years ago | (#14555985)

It might if you were investigating a really major volanic eruption from a million years ago ;-).

Ice is a mineral, probably also a rock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14552032)

Ice is a mineral. It fits every part of the definition:

* inorganic
* regular structure
* naturally occurring
* well defined chemical composition
* homogenous

If a "rock" is defined as a hard naturally occuring substance that didn't form as a direct result of biological processes, and often composed of minerals (which seems like a reasonable working definition), then ice is a rock.

So perhaps the interesting question is whether this ice is an igneous, metamorphic, or sedimentary rock. I'd say metamorphic; it's been recrystallized since it was deposited. That said, is snow igneous, metamorphic, or sedimentary?

Re:Ice is a mineral, probably also a rock (1)

ls -la (937805) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554403)

Snow doesn't have a regular structure. That's one of the differences between ice and snow.

Re:Ice versus.... (2, Insightful)

stevesliva (648202) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552098)

The reason ice cores are important is that they contain records of climate change, and climate change is big news these days.

No. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14554156)

The oldest known rocks are about 4 Billion years old; http://www.brookes.ac.uk/geology/rock.html [brookes.ac.uk]

Re:Ice versus.... (1)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 8 years ago | (#14560021)

I wonder, would this have been news if it was a rock core sample?

Sorta. Really old rocks are news, but a million years isn't much for rocks. The principle holds, yes, but the time scale is entirely different. We have a few zircons from Australia which are almost 4.3 billion years old [usgs.gov] , so the number would have to be three and a half orders of magnitude bigger.

In related news. (2, Interesting)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551208)

I think this is cool, but the more exciting thing that Japanese geologists are doing is planning to drill into the earth's core. link [channelnewsasia.com]

Re:In related news. (2, Informative)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551335)

The article lead-in is wrong, since they have no plans to get anywhere near the core. They are planning on drilling down to the mantle (which is correctly reported later in the article). As this figure [usc.edu] shows, this is akin to breaking through the skin of an apple to see what mushy goodness lies within.

Re:In related news. (1)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551825)

You're right, and I should have picked that up. Still, getting through the crust would still be an amazing accomplishment.

Re:In related news. (1)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552152)

You're right, and I should have picked that up. Still, getting through the crust would still be an amazing accomplishment.

Don't feel bad. I hear that the sort of dig you suggested will be possible soon [wikipedia.org] with the appropriate advances in materials science [wikipedia.org] .

Re:In related news....ROOK OUT IT'S GODZIRRA!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14552235)

...and quite amusing when it all goes wrong.

Lots of japanese workers and scientists scrambling for the hills. It will be just like the movies!

Re:In related news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14553076)

Looks like someone saw the 5,000 meters bit and thought it had said 5,000 kilometers.

In later news... (1)

ObjetDart (700355) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551219)

...all contact with the Japanese antarctic research station has been lost.

Researchers from McMurdo have been dispatched to investigate.

Re:In later news... (1)

HunterZ (20035) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551384)

Heheh one of my favorite movies :) http://imdb.com/title/tt0084787/ [imdb.com]

MacReady: "I know I'm human. And if you were all these things, then you'd just attack me right now, so some of you are still human. This thing doesn't want to show itself, it wants to hide inside an imitation. It'll fight if it has to, but it's vulnerable out in the open. If it takes us over, then it has no more enemies, nobody left to kill it. And then it's won."

Reminds me of my fellow posters here on /.

Seriously (4, Insightful)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551221)

You have all these measurements that come together consistently, the rate of ice formation, the depth of the ice, these cores are probably consistent with other cores from other areas across a wide range of metrics, you could analyze a million different factors and they all happen to come out in favor of an ancient Earth, not a young earth [wikipedia.org] .

Why won't the fanatics give it up? We need to get with the program and learn as much as we can about this planet before we kill ourselves off permanently.

Re:Seriously (1)

nagora (177841) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551934)

Why won't the fanatics give it up?

Because then people would stop paying attention to them and they'd have to grow up.

Glad to help.

TWW

Re:Seriously (0, Flamebait)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551957)

Duh. Earth has only existed for 5,000 years. But it was Created billions of years old.

Re:Seriously (0, Offtopic)

quokkapox (847798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552048)

Duh. Earth has only existed for 5,000 years. But it was Created billions of years old.

A useless assumption that if true, affirms the existence of a deceptive creator. Sorry, deception is incompatible with infinite good and love.

Re:Seriously (0, Flamebait)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553066)

Just to play devil's advocate, that's not necessarily true if a) that deception is in our best interest, b) the process involved in planet creation involves time dilation, c) we're simply incapable of understanding why things appear to be millions of years old, or d) our definitions of infinite good and love are flawed.

Arguing against something which cannot be disproved is just as silly as arguing for it.

Re:Seriously (1)

tehdaemon (753808) | more than 8 years ago | (#14558556)

Wow, sounds like a time for occams razor. either they are dead wrong and there is no god, or they are wrong - they misinterpreted genesis.

They can't accept either of these options - 'cause either of them destroys them. They have thrown out every leg to stand on except the bible. If they now admit that their interpretation of the bible is wrong, even on only one chapter, then everything is suspect and they lose all of their power over the congregations.

BTW, b) is meaningless, time dialtion means that the earth is old. c) is useless.

Re:Seriously (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 8 years ago | (#14565461)

You're being naive if you think that disproving one aspect of religion will "destroy" religion on the whole. Religion is not static, nor is it bound to logic. Interpretations have changed over time to suit (or affect) the current geopolitical climate, and the present, despite the grandeurs of glory we may have to the contrary, is no different. Every society believes that the age they live in is immune from the simple-mindedness of its ancestors, that they are more enlightened.

Regardless, if Occam's Razor applied to religion, religion would have ceased to exist long ago.

And you're still falling into the trap of arguing an illogical belief using logic. Trying to argue religion is futile, and possibly a greater folly than believing in it.

Re:Seriously (1)

tehdaemon (753808) | more than 8 years ago | (#14600499)

Religion in general? Of course you right about that. I was not refering to this at all. I was refering to a specific set of Protestant Christian fundamentalists - including 'born agains'

Roman Catholics have gotten over their old interpretation of Genisis. They now officially state that the theory of evolution more or less describes the method that god used to create the earth etc. They are in no danger from modern science with respect to evolution because they have a pope, who can and does proclaim official doctrine and biblical interpretations. Their religion can change without being destroyed.

Born agains (and related) have the 'inerrant word of god' (the bible) as their sole authority. In practice this means that there is one official interpretation of the meaning of various scriptures. These interpretations are fixed and 'inerrant' because they are based on the inerrant bible. If they were to change their interpretation of any one part of the bible, especially an important one like Genisis, it would effectivly nullify the inerrancy of the bible. This would then put every other interpretation of the bible in question. As this sort of probing and questioning is incompatible with their understanding of 'faith', it would destroy their religion. ie. born-again theology, not christianity or christian beliefs of current born-agains. The born-again ministers recognise this.

The core problem comes about because the theory of evolution is incompatable with their interpretation of genisis chap. 1. One will destroy the other. (unless the fundamenalist members remain forever ignorant - a non-zero probability) When you say that religion changes over time, you are correct. What I was pointing out is that this particular change would result in a particular theology being destroyed, (and set of ministers losing their current positions of power). Their particular doctrine admits no possibility of change. If it 'changes' it is destroyed.

Re:Seriously (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 8 years ago | (#14601992)

That's the thing.. you're categorizing people as either uninformed, or informed. You're not allowing for the idea that people are "willfully uninformed." That they will be faithful in the face of evidence which contradicts events. Each person is different. Some may only use religion to explain things that are inadequately explained otherwise, and some may use it to reject science altogether.

At any rate, the key part of religion for the group you describe is their "personal relationship with God," not, particularly, a literal (or any other) interpretation of the Bible. And conveniently, since the Bible is one of those sources which says almost everything, it works well for almost any purpose. This group will also reject the teachings of the "pope," since the Bible describes no such centralized structure, and it undermines the idea of a direct connection with God.

But as long as "what is my purpose in life?" or "why do bad things happen?" are things that science can't answer, religion will always fill in the blanks. Christianity has been around for 2000 years; not because of science, or the lack thereof, but because it's very compelling as taught. It appeals to people on emotional levels, which is something science will never do (for most people). Trying to use science to counter religion is as pointless as trying to do the opposite. They won't consider points you have to offer if they conflict with "God," any more than you'll listen to points they have to offer if they conflict with "facts."

Anyway, I'm gonna discontinue posting to this discussion in favor of newer and shinier discussions.

Re:Seriously (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14558339)

Why deceptive? If _I_ could figure it out, then I don't really think that the Creator intended it as a super-secret idea.

Anyhoo, who says that the Creator possesses infinite good and love? How do you know that I don't believe in a religion that says the universe was created by Ultimate Evil, but His Evil Plans went wrong and goodness crept into the hearts of men and thus an eternal struggle was born that can never be resolved...

"I am evil HoMER! I am evil Ho-mer! I am evil HoMER!"

Re:Seriously (2)

Viper Daimao (911947) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552331)

theres still people who believe we didnt land on the moon, and that the illuminati control the world. In essence there will always be a small minorty of people who will believe anything, no matter how stupid or what the evidence.

Re:Seriously (1)

rco3 (198978) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553263)

Wait a minute: you mean there a people who believe BOTH that the moon landings were faked AND that the Illuminati rule the world? Amazing. How can people be so right AND so wrong, at the same time?

Well, several possibilities (1)

Flying pig (925874) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552575)

  • They know it's rubbish as much as we do but are trying to demonstrate their power to persuade foolish people, which makes them feel important.
  • It's arts graduates trying to keep those pesky scientists under control by ensuring the majority of the population lacks confidence in their work.
  • They are genuinely uneducated stupid people who have gotten into positions of authority and are easily swayed by equally uneducated Bible thumpers
  • It is the fate of every empire to succumb to religious madness
  • The only way we can fight their loony fundamentalists is to become even more loony fundamentalists ourselves
  • No-one in the Mid-West learns Greek or Hebrew anymore
  • It's a virus affecting rednecks, spread by SUV to SUV contact.
  • ...-5 troll, ah well I'm clearly destined never to moderate, and just as well too

Re:Seriously (1)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 8 years ago | (#14560048)

Why won't the fanatics give it up?

Uh, because they're fanatics?

Primitive Cryogenics (0)

Raynach (713366) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551231)

The real question here is: will they find some neanderthal's "frozen" assets [slashdot.org] ?

You know it's a slow news day when..... (4, Funny)

ShyGuy91284 (701108) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551275)

A block of ice manages to make headlines on slashdot.......

relevance of blocks of ice (1)

j1m+5n0w (749199) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552707)

This actually is somewhat important for establishing historical data for carbon dioxide density in the atmosphere. Presumably, the new data will allow someone to extend this graph [wikipedia.org] , and see where we are now relative to a million years ago.

Re:You know it's a slow news day when..... (1)

Talinom (243100) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553011)

A block of ice manages to make headlines on slashdot.......

Myself, I'm waiting for the live webcam of it melting.

Re:You know it's a slow news day when..... (1)

SEWilco (27983) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554434)

The report is actually about gold being found in Africa, but the Slashdot story is a little mangled.

X-Files (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14551359)

These scientists apparently didn't watch the X-Files, or John Carpenter's The Thing for that matter. Of course the ice contains a microbe that will soon overtake the entire planet if not contained.

Re: X-Files (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554376)

> These scientists apparently didn't watch the X-Files, or John Carpenter's The Thing for that matter. Of course the ice contains a microbe that will soon overtake the entire planet if not contained.

Fortunately they used the ice to make martinis, and the alcohol killed all the vermin.

Hyperbole (2, Funny)

ShakaUVM (157947) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551362)

Oh, those guys. They're probably just using marketing hyberbole to see the ultimate luxury item -- DRINK THE BEST SCOTCH WITH THE BEST ROCKS: MILLION YEAR OLD ICE (supplied limited).

Goes with the Chinese "Thousand Year Old Eggs"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_egg [wikipedia.org]

Re:Hyperbole (1)

Ranger (1783) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553754)

Who in their right mind would drink the best scotch over ice? They probably use it to keep their whale meat sashimi nice and fresh.

Re:Hyperbole (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14554197)

Well, we may have to send a ranger team there. Pretty soon, we will hear that there are buried terrorists and/or the ice is needed for Oil production.

Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (0, Flamebait)

GmAz (916505) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551837)

I wonder what the scientists would do if they found nothing in that "1,000,000" year old block of ice. Just pure water. No organisms frozen for eons. Wonder what kind of excuses they would make up to still deny the existance of God.

Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (2, Insightful)

nagora (177841) | more than 8 years ago | (#14551866)

Wonder what kind of excuses they would make up to still deny the existance of God.

I don't think anyone needs to make up excuses to deny the existance of gods, I think it's up to the people who do believe in them to come up with reasons to do so. So far, they haven't.

TWW

Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (0, Troll)

mschuyler (197441) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552286)

But wait! The earth was made in 4004 BC, on October 23rd, at 9:00 in the morning! What's this 'million year old' bit?

Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14552291)

Dear Sir,
This letter is a public reprimand alerting you to the fact that your Christian Troll License has been revoked. While spelling errors can often be overlooked we must remind you that any words within a five word radius of "God" must be spelled correctly for it reflects negatively on Him. As always using the word "Troll" in your post or title is questionable, and was used in poor taste on this occasion. You may appeal the revokation in writing, but we will have to decline as He has already spoken on the matter.

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Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (1)

madaxe42 (690151) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552347)

It's CTHULHU, not CTHULU. Christian Trolls Helping Unchristian Loser Heathens Understand.

Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14552443)

I wonder what you'll do when they find the organisms. Hopefully, you'll commit suicide because you're clearly an trolling asshole.

Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14552562)

The parent post does not deliver. 3.5/10 on the troll-o-meter. Stale, stale, stale.

right wing politics, web "developers", and christians are all overused on slashdot. Get new material please.

Huh? (1)

C10H14N2 (640033) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552703)

Why would the contents, components or age of anything that exists on this planet or anywhere else in the universe have anything whatsoever to do with the existence of [g|G]od[s] any more than the contents of my ham sandwich have bugger all to do with the existence of leprechauns?

Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (1)

ChreodeRiot (598573) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554066)

What if they DO find samples of bacteria. I wonder what excuses you will make up to still deny the validity of empirical research and science?

PS. Beleiving in empirical facts as opposed to faith based dogma does not preclude a belief in the existence of God.
I also put forth Bill Hicks' one word question: "Dinosaurs?".

Bad ass microbes (1)

corngrower (738661) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554905)

Seriously, they quaranteened the astronauts after they came back from the moon trips for fear of microbial contamination. Wouldn't it be just as likely for some bad-ass microbe to exist in one of these frozen million-year-old ice samples?

Not. Gonna. Happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14554207)

en tea.

Re:Let me guess, Troll rating is coming for me.... (1)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554362)

> I wonder what the scientists would do if they found nothing in that "1,000,000" year old block of ice. Just pure water. No organisms frozen for eons. Wonder what kind of excuses they would make up to still deny the existance of God.

a) appeals to hypothetical data aren't very convincing

b) most scientists in the USA believe in God

c) hope you're trolling, 'cause otherwise you're an idiot

d) p.s. - sorry for the flame

e) p.p.s. - the apology is pro forma

In Soviet-Russia... (1)

dud83 (815304) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552657)

The million-year-old ice digs up YOU!

...fear the ice, I tell ya!

I can top that (1)

ralphclark (11346) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552782)

I just discovered a volume of spacetime in my bathroom that's approx. 13.7 billion years old. I win!

Oddly Enough... (2, Funny)

Carpe PM (754778) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552792)

I don't know how to calculate the odds on this, but they found a hair embedded in the sample.

Turns out after DNA analysis the hair belonged to the great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandson of Ted Williams. Go figure.

Re:Oddly Enough... (1)

TheTiGuR (115921) | more than 8 years ago | (#14552859)

Minor point....

Wouldn't you find the great....great grand**FATHER** of Ted Williams? Or am I missing some time travel reference here?

Re:Oddly Enough... (1)

CptNerd (455084) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553547)


Ted Williams is Zaphod Beeblebrox?

Re:Oddly Enough... (1)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 8 years ago | (#14560107)

Turns out after DNA analysis the hair belonged to the great great grandson of Ted Williams. Go figure.

Yeah, you'd think it'd be his great^30 grandfather, instead. Wonder if by then his middle name was Zaphod.

Almost as helpful as the Stardust mission (2, Insightful)

cwtrex (912286) | more than 8 years ago | (#14553190)

I would expect that this ice would contain particles that might help estimate what the earth was made of a million years ago. Who knows how many comets have hit the earth effectively changing the content or even the ability to house life...

Umm, isn't most ice older? (2, Insightful)

voxel (70407) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554042)

Isn't most or all of earth's "ice" about 4 billion years old?

He-he.

Re:Umm, isn't most ice older? (1)

stonecypher (118140) | more than 8 years ago | (#14560135)

Not the parts we can get to with a steam shovel, no.

Idiots (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14554307)

I read through all the comments in this thread, and I did not find one shred of intelligence. Some nerds.

Grad Students (1)

mswope (242988) | more than 8 years ago | (#14554547)

I TOLD Matsumoto-san to clean out the back of the leefligelaytah!

And at 1,000,001 years depth (1)

Timberwolf0122 (872207) | more than 8 years ago | (#14555860)

they would have found the scotch I left behind. Alcohol and time travel a winnning combination..... Bwhahahaha It was I who killed the dinosaurs and removed the disclamer from the bible!

Microbial Immunities? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14558399)

I would wonder if any microbes within the ice might be dangerous to humans because the microbes were frozen long before humans (supposedly) appeared on the scene so the human immune system has never had the necessary exposure to combat it.

They had better be careful!!! (1)

jameskojiro (705701) | more than 8 years ago | (#14560824)

They don't want to go about causing the Second Impact event, then we will have to put up with angst ridden teenagers in giant Bio/Cyborg Robots and crazy red heads from Germany.

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