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Cisco Eyeing Tivo/Nintendo for Buyout?

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the that-would-be-weird dept.

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We've already covered Cisco's push into the home electronics market, but CNet is reporting that they may be planning even bigger purchases to come. The article speculates that Cisco may be planning on purchasing Tivo or Nintendo to add to their growing portfolio of companies. From the article: " Another possible acquisition candidate for Cisco is Nintendo, the No. 3 game console maker in the U.S. A stretch? Not really. Microsoft, which is emerging as a key competitor to Cisco in the home entertainment market, is already in this market with the Xbox 360. Gaming has already proved to be a strong application for broadband, so it makes sense that Cisco would want to own a game device to help drive more traffic on its network. With its popular GameBoy product, Nintendo would also provide Cisco an entree into the mobile-handheld market." Some commentary at GameDailyBiz, which finds it unlikely that Nintendo would sell to Cisco.

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Cisco to buy Nintendo? (0, Offtopic)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607636)


Kinda gives the phrase 'point-to-point tunneling protocol' [gamespot.com] a whole new meaning, doesn't it? ^_^

Re:Cisco to buy Nintendo? (5, Insightful)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607718)

Amusing, but the real question is: Who's writing this CRAP?

Many a-company has tried to purchase Nintendo. The answer has always been "No". While Nintendo may be third in the American console market, this soundly ignores the presence of the Nintendo DS as well as Nintendo's strength in Japan. Not to mention that Nintendo is the only company that is profitable as just a game company. The other players are running on ultra-tight margins (Microsoft loses money) while Nintendo sits back and enjoys a stogie.

This has got to be some of the worst rumor-mill crud that Slashdot has ever reported. I'd complain about CNet reporting it, but we lost them a LONG time ago.

Re:Cisco to buy Nintendo? (0)

PhotoBoy (684898) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607738)

Where are my mod points when I need them? Well said.

Re:Cisco to buy Nintendo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607914)

Mine expired yesterday, or I'd use them.

This is honestly one of the most ridiculous, ill-informed, detatched-from-reality rumours to show up on /. -- and that's saying a lot.

Besides... Why would... (5, Funny)

cnelzie (451984) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608166)

Cisco want a 100+ year old playing card company anyway?

Re:Cisco to buy Nintendo? (3, Interesting)

xenocide2 (231786) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608295)

Well, certainly Nintendo would owe it to shareholders to consider any offers. Whether the Japanese investing market is given these considerations is another matter. I suspect the management of Japanese companies has considerably more power than in US chartered corporations. The fact that the DS is doing well and that Nintendo is turning a profit is only a sign that the company is valuable, not that it is priceless.

Even if Nintendo was in the number one spot, they'd still be the primary purchasing target, for obvious reasons. Sony and MS are simply to big to purchase. Infinium is simply 90 percent hype, 10 percent delivery. However, the company isn't a good matchup for Nintendo. Cisco would have to substantially be involved with the design of whatever next hardware comes out to make anything positive happen for either side. I don't know the Cisco culture, but I'd imagine there'd be some communication problems if they tried it.

I wouldn't be surprised however if Cisco purchased Alienware.

Re:Cisco to buy Nintendo? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607796)


Kinda gives the phrase 'point-to-point tunneling protocol' a whole new meaning, doesn't it? ^_^

Why don't they buy out Novell and then we could have Massively Multiplayer nsnipes in 3D with 5.1 Dolby Surround!

nsnipes.... hrhrhrhrhggggghhh. *drool*

Re:Cisco to buy Nintendo? (1)

pixxxguy (950971) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607998)

Man.... BugTraq and vulnerabilities for GBA... What's next Zelda TAC Cases? :)

Nintendo stands strong? (2, Interesting)

kefkahax (915895) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607651)

Didn't Microsoft try to buyout Nintendo a while ago and get spit on?

Re:Nintendo stands strong? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607756)

"and get spit on?"

Sigh. An English lesson for you: the correct past paticiple of "spit" is "spat".

Re:Nintendo stands strong? (4, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607768)

The story goes that the Nintendo President told Ballmer to "suck my tiny yellow balls". Nintendo says that this is a hoax, the interview with Wired where this story was allegedly told never happened, and they seem to have a good enough sense of humor about it to make me think 1) it really is a hoax and 2) if MS tried to buy Nintendo (assuming they haven't already) the response would practically if not literally be the same.

Re:Nintendo stands strong? (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607777)

Hmmm... Wasn't that Sega? Or did everyone spit on Sega?

Re:Nintendo stands strong? (4, Informative)

Nintendork (411169) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607889)

No, here's what happened [theinquirer.net] . Someone informally asked Bill Gates asked if he would buy Nintendo, given the opportunity. He said he would. Nintendo got a little upset when the press went crazy with rumors. Welcome to the video game industry where for every true rumor, there's a hundred false ones. Regardless, I do find it amazing how opinion can influence memory.

Re:Nintendo stands strong? (4, Interesting)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608154)

Nintendo will never sell outright I would bet, and I doubt that the Japanese business community would allow for a "hostile takeover" of a Japanese company. I was reading an article today that said in post-war Japan there has never been a successful hostile takeover. And with the whole Livedoor fiasco, I wouldn't bet on there being one any time soon.

Re:Nintendo stands strong? (1)

mikeisme77 (938209) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608281)

While I agree wholeheartedly (as does Nintendo's history) that they would never sell out so easily to a Western company... Let us not forget that Sega (a Japanese company) DID succumb to a hostile takeover by Sammy Studios, which if memory serves me is an American company. That, of course, was after Sega had suddenly backed out of talks with Sammy and apparently insulted their board, so Sammy just bought enough stock to make Sega their own... The difference with Nintendo is that it isn't a publicly traded company.

Cisco? (0, Troll)

remorsecode (829333) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607657)

Who the heck is Cisco?

Re:Cisco? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Rockstar (624854) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607696)

you know... wrote the thong song.

Re:Cisco? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607801)

The captain on Deep Space Nine?

Nintendo of America (1, Informative)

damsa (840364) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607659)

If Nintendo does sell to another company, they probably sell Nintendo of America rather the whole company itself. As NOA is more of a distribution arm of Nintendo rather than content creation.

Re:Nintendo of America (4, Informative)

mausmalone (594185) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607997)

If Nintendo does sell to another company ...
Just stop right there, really. Nintendo has been surrounded by rumors of a buyout ever since the NES was released. All of the rumors are crap, and Nintendo themselves have countless time reaffirmed that they'd go out of business before they sell the company.

Part of it is the pride they have in being an independent company since 1889. In Nintendo's eyes, Cisco is a fucking infant.

Re:Nintendo of America (2, Informative)

damsa (840364) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608060)

Yeah but selling NOA is not selling the entire company. NOA technically is a seperate entity. Not saying they will sell it. But if they do, that part is what they will sell.

Re:Nintendo of America (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608174)

Part of it is the pride they have in being an independent company since 1889. In Nintendo's eyes, Cisco is a fucking infant.

Right on! Plus I think people would disown Nintendo if they sold out.

Umm... (1)

MorderVonAllem (931645) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607663)

First off, Nintendo will never be bought, they'd leave the marketplace before that. Second, Cisco?

Great... (5, Funny)

Lectoid (891115) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607669)

Am going to have to get another CCNA (Certified Cicso Nintendo Administrator) certification.

Re:Great... (3, Funny)

TripMaster Monkey (862126) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607693)


Good luck...I hear this year's exam has a lot more flying turtles than the previous one.

Re:Great... (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607760)

They don't so much as fly as sort of make floating hops. There are the rare red turtles that can actually remain aloft, but they are very hard to find and tend to be stationary or slow moving. Trust me, the green turtles with wings are the ones you really need to watch out for. Those and the moles.

Re:Great... (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607935)

Moles? Pah.

It's those damn annoying pirahna plants that are annoying! The only way to shut them off is to stand over their pipe-pot, otherwise they'll spew fireballs at you. When next year's exame comes out with more plants, it'll start being hard avoiding the floating red turtles, the bounching green turtles, the walking mushrooms. Oh yeah, and your score is partially based on the number of coins you have when you finally enter the castle...

At the end of the exam, the least Cisco could possibly do would be to offer some sort of treatment for those numb thumbs.

Re:Great... (2, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608015)

Good point. Don't forget about the spikey-shelled turtles, though. They are a serious pain in the posterior. Especially when some yahoo drives by in a cloud and drops them on your head. I mean, who the hell gives a drivers license to a guy in a cloud?!

By turtles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607911)

I think you meant "ducks with shells."

Dammit! (1)

idonthack (883680) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608277)

My instructor said nothing about flying turtles. Great. Do you know what section of the curriculum that was?

Re:Great... (2, Interesting)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607957)

The requirement for that certification is to unpack the Nintendo and hook it up to the TV.

When I was working at Atari, every job applicant was asked if they knew the basics of hooking up a game console to the TV, and everyone said "yes" to get hired. (The same question was asked about working 80 hours a week, but that was a different story.) About half of them couldn't tell the difference between a coaxial cable and their rear end, much less where each one goes. I kept telling management that they should job applicants if they can program a VCR clock. That would've eliminated 90% of the applicant pool.

Re:Great... (1)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608287)

I'm currently sitting a CCNA, and there's no module on Mushrooms. Might be in the midterm though.

Too Big? (1)

moo083 (716213) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607672)

I know that Cisco is a big company and all, huge even, but so is Nintendo. Wouldn't it be just as likely to see Nintendo buying out Cisco?

Re:Too Big? (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607976)

I don't think Nintendo has a potential Steve Jobs waiting in the wings to takeover Cisco six months after the merger.

TiVo not for Sale until after the Trial (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607682)

TiVo is sueing Dish over "time warp" patent. Smith Barney thinks TiVo has a 70-90% chance of winning the case. Why would TiVo enter any equity agreement when it is likely to be worth much more soon after the trial ( March 2006 )?

Cisco + Scientific Atlanta + Tivo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608006)

Cisco already aquired Scientific Atlanta, now add Tivo to the mix. It opens up alot of possibilities. I think it would be a good move.

Re:Cisco + Scientific Atlanta + Tivo (1)

systmoadownfreak (943687) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608234)

Yes it might be a good deal for Cisco, I mean they'd be making a ton when TiVo wins this case, but what would TiVo get out of it? I mean it really isn't like the two are incrediblly compatible as far as a related products market goes (i.e. SBC DSL and Cingular (AT&T) Wireless), so there really wouldn't be any profit in that perspective.

Let us examine other possibilities:

Trying to raise capital?
I don't really think so, at the rate that they have been gaining a hold on their market. Plus factor in this lawsuit, does it really seem plausible that they are having enough financial woes to sell out?

New technology?What are they gonna get out of it? Their system works. It doesn't exactly need Cisco.

Ahhh well, I don't see it happening. Just my view.

This is news? (1, Flamebait)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607683)

so it makes sense that Cisco would want to own a game device to help drive more traffic on its network

Cisco doesn't own the network in question ...

Oh, right. Slashdot. Pointless rumours for nerds.

The only reason for Cisco to buy Nintendo is so they can in turn be bought out by someone with more money than brains.

weird? (1)

illuminix (456294) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607685)

Is it just me, or does Cisco + Nintendo warp your mind a bit. Nintendo... by Cisco. I just can't wrap my head around it :)

Re:weird? (3, Funny)

Radres (776901) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608246)

NINTENDISCO!!!

That must be why... (1)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607691)

They sell shortening now, too; to grease the way for their other mergers and acquisitions.

Re:That must be why... (1)

LilBlackDemon (604917) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607805)

That's Crisco. Mmm. Crisco. Makes everything sizzle.

Re:That must be why... (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607940)

That's Crisco. Mmm. Crisco. Makes everything sizzle.

So maybe Cisco should buy out Crisco and grease up those network switches so the packets can slide through faster?

Of course, that would add a whole new meaning to the term "Fat Pipes".

Re:Crisco (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608005)

NO SHIT?! Thanks for EXPLAINING that, I NEVER would have understood otherwise. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

Changes to TiVo if bought by Cisco (4, Insightful)

raitchison (734047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607697)

So if Cisco were to buy TiVo what would be the result? Here are some possibilities:
1. Mandatory Jazz music soundtrack while in Menus and while fast forwarding.
2. Higher cost (everything is worth more with a Cisco label on it).
3. Different TiVo features will now be ala-carte, pay extra for HMF (again), pay extra for IR Blaster funcionality.
4. The only networking configurations that will be supported is if EVERY piece networking & voice component in your house is a Cisco product, your'e on your own if you have a D-Link or SMC broadband router or a Motorla set top box.

No way (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607707)

Nintendo will never sell to Cisco willingly. When Microsoft tried to buy them out (for a LOT of money), Hiroshi supposedly stood on a chair and told Ballmer to "suck his tiny yellow balls." There's some denial about the interview after the fact now, so might be BS but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it were true.

Re:No way (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607755)

"There's some denial about the interview after the fact now"

It's a known outright fabrication. The only source for it was a supposed issue of Wired that doesn't contain it.

Re:No way (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607952)

Sounds like the same denial the U.S. government gave for its secret prisons in Europe, torture, fabricated intelligence, leaking CIA officer's name, warrantless law-violating searches, Alberto Gonzales lying to Congress about same warrantless law-violating searches, payrolling reporters, economic disaster, skyrocketing oil prices, Bush's DUI, Bush's signing death warrants while Texas governor, Bush's missing guard service records, Bush's missing guard service, Bush's claimed WMD must have been there, etc., etc. I guess in this case we will know the truth. For Bush, it's all about claiming "national security" and then not allowing anyone involved to be interviewed or any documents to be released. Cf. Katrina investigation being held up by the Bush White House's unwillingness to cooperate.

For the Republicans that will rate down this post, enjoy your gas prices. You have only your president to thank. You know, the uniter.

Maybe the combined company could (1)

thaerin (937575) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607745)

Though I doubt it'd ever happen, if Cisco were to buy out Ninento, maybe the combined company could bring back the days of Nintendo cereal.

"Nintendo, it's a wireless access point now.
Nintendo, it's a IPv6 capable, DFC3 layer switch wow!"

Re:Maybe the combined company could (1)

mausmalone (594185) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608031)

Yeah, but you have to reset it every hour and it randomly shuts off the wireless portion.

Seriously... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607747)

Cisco may be planning on purchasing [...] Nintendo

Worst non-nintendo-console-and-colorful-game-from-japan- hating-fanboy troll I've seen on slashdot so far...

please close games.slashdot.org and delete every subscriber who ever connected to that place... slashdot will be a better place afterwards :-)

New name (4, Funny)

rmsmith (930507) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607749)

Cistendo? Nintenco? Nincisco? Nisco? Nintencis?

Re:New name (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608136)

You shouldn't make fun, my brothers friends boyfriend had Nintencis. Something about miniature storage units...

Microsoft tried and failed. (0, Redundant)

vitaflo (20507) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607754)

MS has wanted to buy Nintendo since before the Xbox. Gates has said numerous times that if Nintendo were up for a buyout, MS would be the first to put up the cash for it. Of course, Nintendo has kept saying they're not for sale.

Cisco can want to buy Nintendo, but I think they're up against the same thing that MS is, Nintendo doesn't want to sell to anyone.

Re:Microsoft tried and failed. (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608315)

I agree, I remember even since the times of Nintendo & Sony parternship that people talked about Nintendo being bought but part of the Nintendo fanatism strives in how they have been standing since the old days and how they swallowed their most "adverse" competitor, Sega. I even remember a talk show where Sega trolls said that the SuperNintendo was not a 16bit unit but a 12 bit "turbocharged" unit. I thought "hell, if Nintendo can make look Mortal Kombat II that good with 12 bits compard to Sega's 16bit... I prefer the big N".

Nintendo is a Japanese company, and if you ask me, it is more of a HANDHELD company now. Cisco just can not aim to buy them, I think it would be a better bet to buy Infineon labs, at least they did had a console with a "innovative" distribution system based on internet.

ug, I hope not... (1)

AxemRed (755470) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607764)

Look how crappy Linksys has gotten since Cisco bought them. It's common knowledge among all of my techie friends that Linksys routers aren't what they used to be.

Not seeing it. (1)

RyoShin (610051) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607770)

Unless Cisco offered a very high price for Nintendo, I doubt Nintendo will sell (and, even then, it's questionable.) While Nintendo may be slightly behind the XBox in America, putting them at No. 3, they're No. 2 in Japan, and No. 1 in worldwide handhelds. Even with the low price, they still eek out a small profit from their hardware, so they aren't hurting financially. Of course, I'm not a big exec, so there may very well be a transaction of some sort. If there is, it's more likely that Cisco will get the NOA arm of Nintendo, as stated by another poster.

Re:Not seeing it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608184)

First of all, either spell the word "eke" or refrain from using it. Second, if by "small profit" you mean per unit, you should remember that these things add up. Nintendo is perhaps the single most profitable company in the videogame industry, neck and neck with EA for the title. Sony's gaming arm is only about half as profitable as Nintendo, and Microsoft is losing money on videogames.

Nintendo also has over $6 billion in cash reserves and zero debt. Probability of a willing sale by Nintendo = Zero. Feasibility of a hostile takeover = extraordinarily difficult and expensive, if not outright impossible.

Please... No... (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607774)

Please, don't tell me they'll have a mascot called "The Cisco Kid"

The horror, the horror!

Re:Please... No... (1)

MrSquishy (916581) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608222)

You mean like Nester's sister, Cister?

biznat3h (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607785)

Cringely predicted it (1)

merc (115854) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607792)

#11 on Cringely's 2006 predictions:

11) TiVO will be bought by another company.

Re:Cringely predicted it (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607973)

TiVo is like Apple, there's always some rumor out there that the company is about to be bought out by some random player.

EVERYONE predicted that (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608216)

In fact, *I* predicted that Cringely would predict it.

Network? (5, Insightful)

Call Me Black Cloud (616282) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607793)

Cisco would want to own a game device to help drive more traffic on its network.

What network is that? I thought they made hardware. Wouldn't the traffic be carried by the DSL or cable providers?

Re:Network? (1)

brucifer (12972) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608158)

Your DSL or cable providers are most likely using Cisco equipment. After their purchase of Linksys, a lot more people have Cisco in their house than did before. Cisco, its not just for corps any more.

Re:Network? (3, Insightful)

sucker_muts (776572) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608188)

Wouldn't the traffic be carried by the DSL or cable providers?

Certainly.

And when they start to get much more traffic (I presume online gaming with those newest games does need some bandwith), they definately need to start updating their switches/routers. Which Cisco sells.

A no-brainer actually...

A new slashdot? (1)

fredrated (639554) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607841)

Just moments ago when I accessed /. I got a completely new look!
Then when I refreshed, it was gone!

What happened?

I truly hope not (5, Insightful)

rAiNsT0rm (877553) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607844)

Seriously, I could not imagine a worse scenario. Nintendo is the only game company left who places fun, gameplay, and design over advertising, hype, and corporate greed. The gaming industry is dying slowly and turning into a mini-hollywood and the pervasiveness of ad's in games and lack of innovation in favor of sequels and making the biggest grab for money and power does nothing to further gaming.

Nintendo stays true to its roots, and wavers for no one or no money. They have a quirky business set-up but it works, to turn that into a carbon copy American corporation would ruin everything that makes Nintendo Nintendo. I would be deeply saddened to hear news of Cisco purchasing Nintendo, and I can only hope that the Revolution is a great success and sale of the company would be out of the question. That would be the darkest day in gaming of all time.

Re:I truly hope not (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608124)

Um that's not really true. Nintendo doesn't NEED to go find money; it already makes a lot more profit than all the other companies. It's not that they're NOT swayed by dollar signs; they're already the profit leader among the game companies. Why would they do anything different? They'd risk alienating the customer base that supports them and helps them retain the rank of most successful game company in the world. And by "most successful," I really do mean that. Ways in which Nintendo outperforms its competitors:

1 - Quality of hardware
2 - Quality of software (although PS2 had a heck of a year in 2005!!)
3 - Hardware innovation (especially controllers)
4 - Home Console first party support
5 - Software innovation (caused by hardware innovation + amazing first party support)
6 - Retail Price
7 - Corporate profit (Nintendo has been in the black for...forever?)
8 - Portable console install base (even the DS outsells the PSP globally, nevermind the GBA's dominance...)
9 - Portable console third party support
10 - Portable console first party support

Ways in which its competitors outperform Nintendo:

1 - Home console install base
2 - Home console third party support (due to install base)
3 - XBox Live (which only affects about 10% of Xbox users, which in turn amount to less than 10% of the PS2's install base...)

Nintendo won't sell because they're kicking everybody's asses, regardless of what MTV tells you. And Nintendo doesn't "sell out" because they're making too much friggin money NOT selling out. They have some amazing designers, but they're also makin a crapload of money...

One other fun thing I'd like to point out:

President of Nintendo: Satoru Iwata, former HAL game designer and creator of Super Smash Bros

President of Playstation: Ken Kutaragi, former hardware engineer.

President of XBox: Can't even remember his name. Probably a former Pepsi CEO or something? Or maybe VIACOM? I can't recall...

And you wonder why Nintendo continues to make fun games! What a mystery!

Cart driving the horse (5, Funny)

null etc. (524767) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607857)

Gaming has already proved to be a strong application for broadband, so it makes sense that Cisco would want to own a game device to help drive more traffic on its network.

Uhm, yeah. That makes just about as much sense as an asphalt producer buying Ford so that its cars would drive up the demand for pavement.

Correction (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607878)

Another possible acquisition candidate for Cisco is Nintendo, the No. 3 game console maker in the U.S. A stretch? Not really. Microsoft, which is emerging as a key competitor to Cisco in the home entertainment market, is already in this market with the Xbox 360.


A more accurate way of putting this would be:

Another possible acquisition candidate for Cisco is Nintendo, the No. 3 game console maker in the U.S. A stretch? Hell yes. Microsoft, which is about a zillion more times serious about the home entertainment market than Cisco will ever be, already tried to buy out Nintendo with a multi-billion offer and was soundly refused. If Microsoft can't afford Nintendo, how the hell can Cisco? Hell, I live right near those vast tracts of empty office space they've got in Santa Clara. They can't even afford to run the buildings they've already paid for.

Wont happen (5, Interesting)

Bethor (172209) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607880)

As someone who has been working in Japan for several years, in the game industry, I cant begin to explain how ridiculous this sounds.

Nintendo is a 107 year old company. It has been lead by the same family for generations, and their mployees are extremely proud. They were there before video games existed, and they most likely will be there long after video games are gone.

I am not sure if its a cultural thing, but the assumption that everything is for sale is quite irritating.

Re:Wont happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608074)

Nintendo is a 107 year old company

What did Nintendo do in 1899?

Re:Wont happen (4, Informative)

mausmalone (594185) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608096)

Nintendo is a 107 year old company...
Minor correction. Nintendo is 117 years old. I know it was probably just a math fluke, but here's some trivia for others: Nintendo was founded in 1889 and manufactured Hanafuda trading cards. Replicas of these cards are on display at the Nintendo World Store in NYC. The GameBoy was released in 1989 as part of Nintendo's 100th anniversary celebration. For more info check out the Wikipedia entry [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Wont happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608131)

I am not sure if its a cultural thing, but the assumption that everything is for sale is quite irritating.

On related news, analysts are speculating that your sister's ass might be ripe for a buyout. More as it develops.

The Nintendo Funtapulous Carnivalatron from 1901 (4, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608181)

I still have one of their steam driven difference consoles.

The cartridges were *big*. :-o

Re:Wont happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608199)

Not only that, but as a video game company, Nintendo has survived and seems to whole-heartedly believe in being extremely focused in the game market. What exactly is Cisco going to offer them? Sell to us so we can re-orient your company to spin arround in circles chaising your tail like sony and microsoft, so that you can then die a slow death?

Cisco may want a foot in the "home entertainment" door, but Nintendo seems to understand that they want to make a good product concentrated in the gaming sector, not trying to be all things to all people. That's why Nintendo sells a gamecube for profit on day one, while Microsoft will probably break even at BEST for selling their console (because it heaps on so much junk).

So... (1)

TheOtherAgentM (700696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607883)

when Nintendo puts its next console online, it won't be hacked? Can someone explain to me what Cisco would be doing in the game console market?

Cisco is in the entertainment market? (1)

millisa (151093) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607888)

"Microsoft, which is emerging as a key competitor to Cisco in the home entertainment market"

Maybe I'm out of touch, but what does Cisco have already in the home entertainment market? I don't see linksys type devices really counting . .even their gaming wireless adapters are more support devices for things in the home entertainment market. I wouldn't consider them part of the market themselves since they themselves don't bring entertainment?

Someone educate me?

Re:Cisco is in the entertainment market? (3, Informative)

AlterTick (665659) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608095)

Maybe I'm out of touch, but what does Cisco have already in the home entertainment market?

Just off the top of my head, I know they own Scientific Atlanta, which is pretty much the big gun of set-top CATV boxes. They've lost a little to Motorola in the digital cable area, but they're still a major player.

Please no, not nintendo! (2, Insightful)

monopole (44023) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607953)

It would be just like Palm and 3COM, elagant and beatuful designs crushed under a layers and layers of clueless management and indecision strangling innovation until the design is irrelavant.

Why don't they buy SEGA instead. We can finally get ehternet adaptors for our dreamcasts!

Geez, can we post some real news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14607971)

I suppose it's great to speculate, but this isn't so much "news analysis" as it is wild stabs in the dark. Sure, there may be some possible synergy with Tivo. Maybe. But just throwing names out willy-nilly makes this look like something from IGN.

Driving network usage? (3, Interesting)

peterdaly (123554) | more than 8 years ago | (#14607972)

Cisco is all about the network.

Theory 1:
I bet small changes could be made to Tivo to make it much more of a video on demand box. These changes could be done in such a way that the Tivo is much more dependant on the network for it's content. High network utilization is good for Cisco.

Thoery 2:
They own Scientific Atlanta which (last I knew) is one of the major vendors of cable set-top boxes. Including Tivo in a set-top box would be good for sales I would think, even if it's just because Tivo has a good "brand."

Theory 3: (Theory 1 + Theory 2) = Theory 3.

-Pete

Stupid rumor-mongering (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14608003)

Who started this rumor? Whoever you are, at least come up with rumours that are plausible.

Better yet, buy them both. (3, Funny)

Kesch (943326) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608004)

I vote that someone buy both TiVo and Nintendo. I don't care that Microsoft is pushing for the X-Box an all-in-one media center. The holy grail of media centers will be my new NinTeVo Revolution Series 3.

I'm looking forward to the Japanese imports such as "Doodle Doodle Doodle" where you have to draw mustaches as fast as you can on the incoming TV feed.

Re:Better yet, buy them both. (1)

rich_r (655226) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608097)

ah man, I'd buy it like a shot! Instead of shouting at the politcos on the TV, I could express myself more creatively.
It'd be even better if it could map the 'art' so that everytime someone previously drawn on reappears, the modifications persist also...

Japanese people are too proud to sell to US... (1)

ShyGuy91284 (701108) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608018)

And I don't mean that in a bad way in any way whatsoever. I've taken almost 30 weeks of Japanese language/culture classes, and I've learned a lot. One big thing I've learned is how strong a sense of cummunity the Japanese have. While most US corporate bosses might think individually and be willing to sell a company at the right price and loose a few thousand jobs in the process, outsource, and do a lot of other things that, I don't think a Japanese company would do that because it wouldn't benefit the group as a whole. It just isn't very good for the country to sell a company when it's benefiting your economy, and been a large symbol of your country to the rest of the world.

Re:Japanese people are too proud to sell to US... (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608062)

cummunity

Whoa. Ease off on the Japanese porn sites.

cisco (1)

genbitter (928451) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608021)

Does this mean I need a cisco certified technician to set up my TIVO?

When pigs fly... (0, Redundant)

Yoweigh116 (185130) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608028)

Who is seriously stupid enough to believe, much less report, that Nintendo would be selling out to an American company? Microsoft already tried this, and Ballmer got quite a response from Hiroshi Yamauchi, the 77 year old ex-Nintendo president. To make his feelings blatantly obvious, he stood on a chair, cupped his hands over his mouth, and suggested the following:

"Hey, Ballmer, why don't you suck my tiny yellow balls?"

He even said it in plain English, after having an interpreter for the rest of the conversation, for added clarity. He also likened the acceptance of such a deal to "a defeat comparable to World War 2" despite the fact that M$ offered what Yamauchi-san described as the largest sum of money he'd ever heard of. I highly doubt that Cisco's chances would be any better.

Reference link [xbox365.com]

Re:When pigs fly... (1)

threv (839879) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608288)

try again. from tfa: "Even more gripping statements from Yamauchi can be found in a Wired interview due out in the February issue of the magazine. At least, that would be the case if the interview were real. A Spanish gaming site put up the faux interview and word spread rapidly.Bloggers and less reputable news sites jumped on the chance to expose Ballmer's ball episode."

Logic of the situation (2, Interesting)

1336.5 (901985) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608052)

OK Cisco provides networking hardware and IOS's to support certain features.

Why would Cisco buy Nintendo?

Well think about it this way. Time Warner is a HUGE customer of Cisco. Cisco acquired Scientific Atlantic which makes cable set top boxes. Humm then Time Warners network would be optimized with Cisco's hardware and TV/Cable controlled by Cisco's boxes.

Now combine this with Cisco's IPTV, and Network Virtual Private Storage Solutions and you pretty much have Video on demand over IP any time of the day. Throw a game console in the mix and you have diversified in to a game service niche, much like xbox live.

Thats just one reason.

This makes no sense... (2, Insightful)

Xepherys2 (174396) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608110)

First of all, how is Cisco competing with anyone in the home entertainment market? Because of Sci-Atlanta and Linksys? Yes, you can play games on the internet via a Linksys router, and watch cable TV via a cable box. These do not make you a player in the home entertainment industry. In fact, Sci-At has been making cable boxes for DECADES, and I never search out their brand over someone elses. Does anyone even CARE who makes a cable box?

As for the purchase of Nintendo... I say fat chance. Aside from the fact that Nintendo is no small company (in Japan, they are still QUITE large) with a LOT of IP to purchase in the deal, I believe the cultural background of Nintendo would prevent them from selling to such a company... or really selling at all unless they were in dire straights.

Honestly, the whole article doesn't really seem to have much base in reality. Can anyone enlighten me if I missed out on something really big?

They should buy both... (1)

farnsaw (252018) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608120)

If Cisco were to buy both you could then have a set top box that was your router/firewall/WAP/Tivo(PVR)/games console/VOIP server all in one. Since Cisco (via the Linksys brand) has been open to hacking^h^h^h^h^h^h^h end user modification of their systems it could be a very interesting development.

Buyout rumors are fun! (3, Funny)

saboola (655522) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608155)

Disney/Pixar to buy out Nintendo so Apple can aquire a games console platform to move into the living room. Taco Bell to buy out Depends diapers for adults because the two seem to go hand in hand after a stuffed burrito. See, I can do it too, it's a lot of fun.

This HAS to work (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608267)

If memory serves me correctly Cisco is playing by the Microsoft rulebook. If you can't create great new technologies, BUY THEM!!! Now all we have to do is wait for Microsoft to buy Cisco and Bill Gates will finally have ULTIMATE POWAR [bitstorm.org] !!!!

I don't get it.. (1)

xbrownx (459399) | more than 8 years ago | (#14608292)

how is Cisco currently in the home entertainment market?

How can they be considered a competitor of Microsoft's in that market?
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