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Kojima Dismisses Boll As MGS Director

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the oh-thank-everything dept.

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Joystiq has a post which caused thousands of people to raise their eyes heavenward in thanks. Uwe Boll will never direct a Metal Gear Solid film. From the article, which relays information from Kojima's ongoing podcast series: "Host Ryan Payton delivers a message from Kojima-san dispelling recent 'nasty rumors' that Uwe Boll is being considered to direct an upcoming Metal Gear Solid movie. Says Kojima: 'Absolutely not! I don't know why Uwe Boll is even talking about this kind of thing. We've never talked to him. It's impossible that we'd ever do a movie with him.'"

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Wait, isn't this the guy... (2, Informative)

John Miles (108215) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638536)

... who argued [joystiq.com] that video and computer games could not possibly rise to the level of an art form?

If so, what does he care who directs a movie based on his game? That's quite an affectation on Kojima-san's part, isn't it?

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (2, Informative)

despisethesun (880261) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638549)

Not all movies are art either. He probably just doesn't want to see Boll shitify MGS like he has every other franchise he's touched.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14641687)

Not all movies are art either. He probably just doesn't want to see Boll shitify MGS like he has every other franchise he's touched.

Yeah, Kojima doesn't need help. He's doing a great job of that on his own.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (1)

Kirby-meister (574952) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638613)

That doesn't mean he wouldn't want the director that would bring in the most money.

And with Boll's films' recent performances, I doubt he'd be the director who could make a movie that would bring in asstons of cash.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (3, Insightful)

IgLou (732042) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639112)

Worst still, he did Alone in the Dark... look it up http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369226/ [imdb.com] it's a 2.2 This dumb f*ck does miserable, awful, stupid movies. I don't care what project he's not doing... so long as he's NEVER making another movie again.
Who are the idiots that give him the budget or approval to work on something in the first place?

Alone in the Dark is one experience I never wish to relive and it's 2 hours of my life I want a refund on! It wasn't even in the category of "so bad it's good". Yuck!

Anyone wishing to join me in a Class Action lawsuit against that piece of crud are welcome.

Unfortunately... (1)

Stachybotris (936861) | more than 8 years ago | (#14650387)

He's also making a movie out of Dungeon Siege starring none other than that bald guy from The Transporter. I'm sure it will be a horrible movie that not only manages to completely ignore the better parts of the game, but also completely rip off Lord of the Rings.

Now, I can't be entirely certain of this, chiefly because I can't remember where I heard it, but supposedly Boll gets to keep making movies because the studios know that he'll produce a loss for them. Why on earth they want a loss is beyond me, but apparently they do.

Having said that, do you think it might be possible to get someone to make a good movie out of a game?

Re:Unfortunately... (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 8 years ago | (#14650646)

I heard that too and apparently its a loophole in German taxes, where you on'y pay tax on gross earnings of your movie, so basically, his investors invest a lot of money in his movie, he guarantees that it doesn't break even, argh, I forget how they still make money though. . . His movies should be done by Bob Barker since they're just a copy of The Price is Right. He has to make as much money without going over the break even point. The interesting thing though, is that The German government ammended that little loophole, so the question is, will he still make crappy movies, or will he try and make better movies since now he has to make money now.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14639128)

Just because Kojima takes a utilitarian stance on game development and does not consider game developers to be artists doesn't mean that he can't reserve the right to determine whether Boll is competent enough to make a movie from the MGS franchise.

To modify and extend on Kojima's own car analogy, I don't consider cars to be art either. But that doesn't mean I'd be happy having a high school shop class build a car for me when better alternatives exist.

In short, there is no discrepancy between his stance on games and his disapproval of Uwe Boll as a film director.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (4, Insightful)

MilenCent (219397) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639146)

That's a non-sequitur. That he doesn't want Boll to direct a MGS movie has nothing to do with art. He doesn't want Boll to direct his movie because Uwe Boll sucks.

I wouldn't be surprised, actually, if Kojima wouldn't want to direct such a movie himself. Think about it: it would be very, very easy for a know-nothing director to make a Metal Geal Solid game into some sort of crappy, Tom Clancyesque, military-celebrating, mass-market travesty.

A good Metal Gear Solid movie could never be a generic videogame movie, and that's all Boll makes.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (1)

MaestroSartori (146297) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639167)

He is indeed. Perhaps he's saying this because movies are more often considered to be art? And Uwe Boll is by no stretch of the imagination a respected artist. Perhaps just because, regardless of whether either form is art or not, Uwe Boll makes shit-awful films?

For what it's worth, as someone who makes games for a living, I don't consider most games to be art, including those I have worked on. I just don't see myself as an artist doing what I do, in much the same way that I don't consider a graphic designer laying out a billboard ad to be making art. But that's a personal thing, and Kojima seems to think along the same lines.

What is and isn't considered art is a pretty personal thing, my tastes are probably different to yours, and Kojima's are likely to be different again. There'll never be a consensus on this, gamers and game producers alike need to come to terms with that.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14639242)

Why would he care that MGS4 USA sales would possibly plummet after a shitty movie from a shit director? Why are you asking irrelevant questions? Why are you defending Uwe fucking Boll?

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (1)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639351)

Because Hideo Kojima isn't an idiot. He may not consider movies to be art, but he knows Boll would simply destroy any respect the MGS series has as a very serious story. (I've heard people comparing the MGS(1) storyline to the Godzilla movie storylines.)

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14639413)

Have you not seen any of Uwe Boll's Movies?

House of the Dead?

Alone in the Dark?

Trust me, I've seen enough of his films.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (3, Funny)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639959)

who argued that video and computer games could not possibly rise to the level of an art form?
If so, what does he care who directs a movie based on his game? That's quite an affectation on Kojima-san's part, isn't it?


1) Not so.

2) Never EVER again imply that Uwe Boll creates *art*, you! For shame!

Really, the things people say around here... Uwe Boll... an artist... crazy!

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (1)

ZakuSage (874456) | more than 8 years ago | (#14640292)

I will personally say that Kojima is brilliant. If he says something, you shouldn't just brush through shrug it and say he's an idiot. What he said is that games as a whole are not art, but the stuff in them is.

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (2, Informative)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 8 years ago | (#14640812)

I wouldn't want a person whom has his 3 most recently directed movies on the IMDB Bottom 100 [imdb.com] to direct any movies for me, either.

Did I mention that all 3 of those were based on video games? They were BloodRayne [imdb.com] , Alone in the Dark [imdb.com] , and House of the Dead [imdb.com] .

Re:Wait, isn't this the guy... (1)

xtieburn (906792) | more than 8 years ago | (#14641954)

You see you have games. These are things that you play and interact with. You install them on a computer or put a disk in a device I like to call a 'games console'.

You also have movies. These are also things that you play but you just watch them instead of interacting, unless you feel the need to scream at your TV. Thats up to you. Typically youll need a drive that plays DVD's or a 'DVD player' to watch them.

At first glance they may appear similar, they are both on disks and all. However, on closer examination over a period of time you will notice that they are infact two completely different forms of media.

Therefore, after much experimenting, it turns out that someone making a comment about the status of games has quite literally no bearing on that same person making decisions about movies.

he did House of the Dead (1)

iggy_mon (737886) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638561)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317676/ [imdb.com]

from that page - 2.1/10 (6,596 votes). Enough said!

{i did a little more research. his average rating is under 3! lmao}

Re:he did House of the Dead (-1, Flamebait)

Saven Marek (739395) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638622)

I really don't see the issue with the Uwe Boll hatred around. I mean sure he's no spielberg but his movies are fun, watchable and even if they are silly then their source material is silly too. I've enjoyed all the movies of his I've seen that I've known were his. Just good solid entertainment. If you're looking for something deeper go subscribe to the european channel, of course you won't be able to understand them without subtitles lol.

Re:he did House of the Dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14638641)

LOL

Re:he did House of the Dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14638729)

lololololol

Re:he did House of the Dead (3, Informative)

The NPS (899303) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638747)

His movies are not fun and watchable. John Carpenter's movies (Big Trouble in Little China, The Thing, etc.) are fun and watchable, even if they are not masterpieces. But Uwe Boll? His movies are steaming piles of crap.

Re:he did House of the Dead (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14639325)

But Uwe Boll? His movies are steaming piles of crap.

So they're Boll-shit?

Re:he did House of the Dead (1)

Luigi30 (656867) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639965)

That's Boll-shevism! Sheer Boll-shevism!

Re:he did House of the Dead (1)

Ford Prefect (8777) | more than 8 years ago | (#14641842)

Nah. Boll-ocks!

Re:he did House of the Dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14638898)

"I really don't see the issue with the Uwe Boll hatred around. I mean sure he's no spielberg but his movies are fun, watchable and even if they are silly then their source material is silly too. I've enjoyed all the movies of his I've seen that I've known were his. Just good solid entertainment. If you're looking for something deeper go subscribe to the european channel, of course you won't be able to understand them without subtitles lol."

I pray you drool yourself to death.

Re:he did House of the Dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14639367)

You are an idiot.

RonB

Re:he did House of the Dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14639369)

I, for one, welcome our Laughing Overlords of Lameness.

lolser!

No Flamebait! (1)

LKM (227954) | more than 8 years ago | (#14650288)

Wow, you really got modded down for that. I'm not sure if you're serious, but actually, I agree. No! Wait! Before you mod me down, please read on.

Yes, his movies are crapfests. Bad, bad, bad movies. However, I also find them quite entertaining. Alone in the Dark, for example, had pretty good creature designs, some nice action scenes and even a few scares. Sure, some actors were mis-cast, the story, uhm, didn't explain a lot of the stuff happening (but I found the parts which were explained to be quite interesting, even though they were ripped off from Lincoln/Child novels), and so on, but the movie didn't bore me at all.

Now, compare this to some other recent Hollywood disasters like Catwoman or Electra. Those were not only bad, they were also extremely boring. So Alone in the Dark has neither Jeniffer Garner nor Halle Berry, but apart from that, I found Alone in the Dark to be a whole lot less boring than either Catwoman or Electra.

Yeah, Boll sucks, but his movies are at least entertaining, which is more than you can say for a lot of movies which get higher ratings on IMDB and aren't perpetually reviled.

Re:he did House of the Dead (1)

iggy_mon (737886) | more than 8 years ago | (#14646034)

wow, i got my first -1 moderation on that last comment. should i be hanging my head in shame or celebrating my first?

by the way, how was your first?

Re:he did House of the Dead (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 8 years ago | (#14650327)

About that -1 mod. Uwe Boll most likely had mod points. Notice that all the posts in this forum are abnormally low.

Hooray! There is a God! (0, Offtopic)

vertinox (846076) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638569)

Now if everyone else would take heed. Although Resident Evil and 2 wasn't bad... I still won't forgive him over Doom.

You're certainly well informed (5, Funny)

jspoon (585173) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638645)

Although Resident Evil and 2 wasn't bad... I still won't forgive him over Doom.

Uwe Boll did not direct any of those movies.

Re:Hooray! There is a God! (1)

FleaPlus (6935) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639510)

Although Resident Evil and 2 wasn't bad... I still won't forgive him over Doom.

Uwe Boll did not direct any of those movies.


Or perhaps the GP was trying to suggest that those movies were punishments from God? ;)

Re:You're certainly well informed (4, Funny)

JimTheta (115513) | more than 8 years ago | (#14639730)

You could argue that he isn't really directing any other movies either... (though he tries. He really does.)

Re:Hooray! There is a God! (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638767)

And don't forget the Tomb Raider movie! He really screwed that one up!

*rolls eyes*

What really killed his career... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14638874)

...was 'Schindler's List'. What a turkey that was.

So it's confirmed then? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14638715)

Says Kojima: 'Absolutely not! I don't know why Uwe Boll is even talking about this kind of thing. We've never talked to him. It's impossible that we'd ever do a movie with him.'


I'd say it's a given now.

We Have No Plans...Yet (1)

dbhankins (688931) | more than 8 years ago | (#14638809)

"Impossible" is a good word. He probably means what he said.

If, on the other hand, he'd said, "We have no plans," then we'd know to prepare ourselves for yet more Boll-puckey.

That's DR. Uwe Boll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14640260)

Respect the PhD.

How about Lee Tamahori? (1)

vdo2000 (713190) | more than 8 years ago | (#14640499)

He directed the James Bond movie "Die Another Day".

How much worse could he be?

Re:How about Lee Tamahori? (2, Informative)

payndz (589033) | more than 8 years ago | (#14640710)

You mean the Lee Tamahori who was just arrested [bbc.co.uk] for prostitution? (He wasn't trying to hire a prostitute, he was the prostitute!) His Hollywood standing might be slightly negatively impacted by this...

Re:How about Lee Tamahori? (1)

fbjon (692006) | more than 8 years ago | (#14642443)

And who outside of Hollywood's inner sanctums of fame and magazines cares about this?

Re:How about Lee Tamahori? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14643434)

Only most of NZ.

34 posts and no one has mentioned... (1)

drunken-sosage (769707) | more than 8 years ago | (#14640948)

...Kojima's love for the film medium?

Guys...the only person who is ever going to direct the movie version of a Kojima game is Kojima himself. It is common lore that Kojima went into game development as some strange half cocked plan to land a job in film production. Even if we discount that, Kojima's passion for the film medium can be seen in the often blatant film references he pours into every game title he has ever worked on (along with the long CG sequences he pumps into said titles).

Boll isn't even touching a wet napkin with the words "Metal Gear movie" sloppily doodled on it, handed to him by a drunk film executive before Kojima is pointing a camera at a live action snake.

Re:34 posts and no one has mentioned... (1)

analog_line (465182) | more than 8 years ago | (#14642792)

As someone who is now playing through MGS:Twin Snakes, and is going on through the next 2 games in succession, I have to agree.

Twin Snakes is a movie on its own. Even moreso than the original it's remaking. Everything about it is cinematic, except the actual game sequences, and even then they try. The game is frankly secondary, it's the storytelling, and that's mostly done cinematically, though the long codec conversations have a good bit of radio play to them as well. As a game alone, there really isn't much going for the MGS series, IMHO. There are a lot of fun gimmicks, like the Psycho Mantis fight (which is even gimmickier in Twin Snakes than the original Solid, but in a good way), the box, the ketchup, and such. But the gameplay is exceedingly simple once you grasp it. There's no more reason to play through it again after you've learned the game than there is for watching a movie again.

So yeah, I'm sure Kojima would make damn sure that he had first crack before he handed it off to anyone else.

Re:34 posts and no one has mentioned... (1)

T_ConX (783573) | more than 8 years ago | (#14643402)

I recall an old issue of EGM that contained a lengthy article on MGS2. Kojima mentioned that if their was a MGS movie, he wouldn't want to direct it, but would rather have the Wachowski brothers direct it... I don't care what any of you though of the Matrix Sequals. No matter what happens, the Wachowski's can still direct better then Uwe 'Toliet' Boll.

Re: Actually it seems the Wachowski's took... (1)

Zantetsuken (935350) | more than 8 years ago | (#14644707)

a large amount of their inspiration for The Matrix movies (from first to last) from the Ghost in the Shell manga/movies/show - that little bit of info seems to pop up in a large number of GITS sites and the Wikipedia Ghost in the Shell [wikipedia.org] , down in the "Impact and Influence" section of the Wikipedia article.

WHo cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14641535)

Metal Gear Solid's cut scenes ae ridiculously stupid. Low-intellect generic stuff. Any movie actually based on such tripe is going to suck - think about those shitty Final Fantasy movies, which were faithful to the cut scenes from the series.

MGS: The Movie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14644763)

Snakes from a game!

Kojima might direct it (1)

MuNansen (833037) | more than 8 years ago | (#14647401)

Kojima actually studied to filmmaking before he got into games. Or he at least wanted to be one. I forget the exact details, but I know for a fact that he pursued film before game making. The influence can certainly be seen in his games.
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