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Wanted Revolution Downloads, Nine N64 Titles

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the all-i-want-is-smash-brothers dept.

Nintendo 168

A GameDaily piece looks at nine N64 titles the staff over there feels really should make it onto the Revolution download service. They're quirky little titles, including a family-favorite launch title: Blast Corps. From the article: "In the game, you take control of a "destruction team" made up of this one guy and several vehicles that range from a bulldozer to a full-blown Transformer-esque robot, and you attempt to clear the path of a runaway missile truck running, oh, five miles an hour. If anything comes into contact with this missile it blows up, so you must clear the path to a certain point in the level. This means destroying ANYTHING, including cities, in order to assure its safety." What N64 titles would you want to see on the service?

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Revolution is teh suck (1)

repruhsent (672799) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708418)

WTF is with that controller? It looks like my DVD player's remote control, albeit a little less comfortable. Why is it that everyone here thinks "really fucking gay design" means "innovative?" Is homosexuality that sheik right now?

Re:Revolution is teh suck (0, Offtopic)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709038)

"Why is it that everyone here thinks "really fucking gay design" means "innovative?" Is homosexuality that sheik right now?"

Your impersonation of a total blithering idiot is spot on! *golf claps*

Goldeneye (4, Interesting)

dan dan the dna man (461768) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708422)

Which delayed the writing of my PhD for at least 6 months. 4 player, single shot kills action - still my fave multiplayer FPS :)

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Pope (17780) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708573)

Agreed. Hell, I'd like to be able to play it on a powerful enough system that it doesn't choke on the smoke effects and having more than 4 enemies on screen at the same time! Keep the game exactly as-is and just let us play it at a solid 30fps is all I ask!

Re:Goldeneye (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14708603)

Some good news about the N64 games: They will have improved framerates. [nrgame.com] Multiplayer Perfect Dark / Goldeneye (same game engine) are great examples of games that will benefit from this.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708645)

I never understood the draw of Goldeneye. Most people I know loved it, but I found that it was pretty bad. Right up along with all the other FPSs on consoles. Maybe the consoles should put out a mouse or trackball so that FPSs don't suck so much on them.

Re:Goldeneye (3, Funny)

RoadDoggFL (876257) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708729)

Or, you know, you could just get better at using a controller like the rest of us and stop bitching...

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709028)

I'd like to chime in with an agreement with the gp post. I never found Goldeneye to be particularly engaging, and I've played many console FPSs from Metroid: Prime to Halo to Riddick.

I found Goldeneye to be slow, ugly, glitchy, and boring. But I'm obviously in a gaming minority here, so please; what was/is the big deal?

Re:Goldeneye (1)

damsa (840364) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709364)

Goldeneye came out in 1996/1997 Halo came out in 2001/2002. It was the first multiplayer FPS on a console that came out half a decade before Halo did on the Xbox. So that's why people have fond memories. It's like people have fond memories of playing Pong in the 1970s.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709641)

Fond memories are one thing. Actually picking the game up and playing it again is something else entirely. If we were putting together a Top 10 list of N64 games, I would be very surprised if Goldeneye didn't at least make #2 (MAYBE behind Zelda). I picked up Goldeneye and played it just under a year ago. It's not nearly as good as you remember it being. It's probably best left firmly in the past even though it was extrememly important in bringing FPS multiplayer to consoles.

midi-maze (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709777)

Goldeneye came out in 1996/1997 [and] was the first multiplayer FPS on a console

Then what's this Faceball 2000 cartridge for Super NES from 1992?

Re:midi-maze (2, Funny)

Manmademan (952354) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710024)

He said it was the first FPS on a console that came out half a decade before Halo, not the first FPS on a console, ever.

Faceball 2000 was much earlier, as was the asstastic Wolfenstein 3D for SNES, and Super Noah's Ark 3D.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710003)

I played Goldeneye when it was brand new. At first I thought that I just didn't like FPS games, but those games I mentioned have proven that hypothesis wrong.

So what you are saying is that Goldeneye is thought of so fondly because it was (then) unique, not because of any other merit?

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710029)

That is, I thought I didn't like FPS games on consoles.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Schitzoflink (949390) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709444)

Well the problem with your point is that you are pointing to FPS's from the Generation of consols after Goldeneye...so you are kind of making the statement "I don't know what the big deal is with the Model T, I was just driving the new Ford Fusion and the Model T just sucks in comparison"

Goldeneye Owns because it was one of the best/first FPS on a console, and the multiplayer was awsome...

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709966)

Except that I played Goldeneye when it was brand new. At first I thought that I just didn't like FPS games, but those that I mentioned have proven that hypothesis wrong.

So what you are saying is that Goldeneye is thought of so fondly because it was (then) unique, not because of any other merit?

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Schitzoflink (949390) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710065)

Yeah, Now when I play Goldeneye it isn't nearly as fun as when I would spend hours playing the same level over and over just because...

Re:Goldeneye (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14709827)

the big deal is you obviously played it 10 years too late

Re:Goldeneye (1)

RoadDoggFL (876257) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709973)

I hated Goldeneye too. Autoaim sucks and I was never happy with the N64's controllers. But bitching about the controller accomplishes nothing, just because he sucks at using it doesn't mean anything.

Re:Goldeneye (2, Interesting)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708653)

You may be interested in Goldeneye: Source [goldeneyesource.com] , if it's the multiplayer you're after.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Taboam (950588) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708884)

goldeneye was on the list of downloadable games from nintendos online service survey.

Re:Goldeneye (3, Informative)

Dorceon (928997) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708929)

GoldenEye's unlikely because EA has the Bond license now. Also, single shot kill is a dumb mode. Play with Hero (-10) health. A center mass shot from anything but a handgun will still take you down, but at least you don't die if you're shot in the gun while standing around a corner.

Goldeneye (1)

ToddBox (825708) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708424)

Goldeney with online multiplayer support. I would buy a Revolution just for that. And yeah, I know that open source PC Goldeneye came out sometime in December.

Re:Goldeneye (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14708466)

Not open source. It's a mod for Half-Life 2 on the "Source" engine (HL2's engine).

Re:Goldeneye (1)

caryw (131578) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709042)

Online multiplayer Goldeneye? That would be incredible.

Really though, this is the WORST N64 related article I've ever seen.

The games they choose are atrocious. The New Tetris? Yeah, there's something that hasn't been done 1,000 times on every console since the beginning of time. Pilotwings 64? Yeah, that was great as a release game to showcase the N64's new 3D world, but was horrible as a game.

How about some obscure games with replay value?

- Super Smash Brothers! Possibly the greatest game of all time. And still to this day the only fighting game based on actual character movement and timing instead of mashing buttons for combos (like Mortal Kombat and every other fighting game).
- 1080 Snowboarding
- Conker's Bad Fur Day. Not particularly engaging, but hilarious!
- Mario Golf. Strangely addicting.
- Re-Volt. Sure it came out on other systems too, but what an awesome little game. Design your own tracks and race around them, would be awesome for multiplayer.

Agree? Disagree? Reply!

- Cary
--
Fairfax Underground: Where Northern Virginia comes out to play! [fairfaxunderground.com]

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Eli Gottlieb (917758) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709217)

I agree except for your claim that SSB is obscure. It isn't, and will undoubtedly be included in this service whether or not we ask for it on Slashdot.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Miraba (846588) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709269)

I can't speak for the people you gamed with, but I remember SSB being anything but obscure. Google agrees with me, unless you consider 1.52 million copies sold in Japan and 2.74 million copies sold in the US to be obscure.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709951)

How about some obscure games with replay value? - Super Smash Brothers!

Not obscure. Sequel is still available on GameCube, whose discs play in Revolution.

Conker's Bad Fur Day.

Developed and owned by a company that Nintendo sold to a competitor. Whether Micraresoft is still willing to license the rights in the game to its closest console competitor is an open question, as the special edition of the game is still available on Xbox.

Mario Golf.

Sequel is available on GameCube, whose discs play in Revolution.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Mercano (826132) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710086)

I belive they are allready working on a new SSB\SSB:M sequal for the Revolution that wil be Internet enabled.

Never saw that game in college. (1)

MrPeavs (890124) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708425)

I have never even heard of that game, guess it wasn't popular on the college circuit.

FUCK BLAST CORPS! (1)

ringbarer (545020) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708443)

Sure, the Bulldozer was great, but that fucking Dumper Truck was a waste of fucking time!

I hope they remake it for the modern age, where you play an Israeli bulldozer driver who gets to wreck Palestinian settlements.

Now that's something I'd pay for.

without goldeneye (1)

szembek (948327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708448)

Without goldeneye I don't think this list can be taken seriously. I would also like to see Mario Kart 64 myself.

Re:without goldeneye (1)

bigman2003 (671309) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708969)

I wonder what the licensing of Goldeneye was like...

Who owns it now, Nintendo, or Rare? Does Nintendo have the right to publish it for a new console?

Something tells me that Rare might not let Nintendo use it...

Re:without goldeneye (1)

basscomm (122302) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709489)

This list isn't the 'nine most popular games that everyone liked to play, and if Nintendo doesn't put them on the Revolution list they've gone loco' list, it's a list of "Nine Obscure N64 Games We Want to Play on Revolution". (emphasis mine)

Re:without goldeneye (1)

szembek (948327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709567)

Yeah I see that now. I, scrolled through the article pretty quickly looking at the titles in the list. The /. post doesn't mention anything about it being a list of the top 9 obscure titles.

Re:without goldeneye (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709663)

Then why is ANY form of Cruisin' on there? That's about as obscure as a version of Street Fighter II on the SNES. (I know. I know. You're just the messenger.)

Cruisin? (1)

Ironsides (739422) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708449)

Dang, I never even remembered the made the Cruisin USA for N64. That's a definite must for the revolution. Along with all the Marios of course. Although, I think the bigest market will be for the original NES games, such as castlevania and icarus over most of the N64 games. Altough the Gameboy SP seems to have most of those taken care of already.

Re:Cruisin? (1)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709982)

You can playe the original NES and SNES games perfectly on PC and Xbox using an emulator. But few N64 games run well.

Blast Corps (3, Interesting)

Maugrim (947665) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708482)

Not many people have heard of it, but was definately one of the best for the 64.

Re:Blast Corps (1)

vapspwi (634069) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708617)

Agreed. I rented it and played through nearly all of it with a friend (got a bit bogged down on the extraterrestrial levels, IIRC). Lots of fun, combining some minor puzzle solving with blowing stuff up with a giant robot. I'd love to play it again. JRjr

Re:Blast Corps (1)

Headcase88 (828620) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708756)

I got the final rank in Blast Corps.

It takes a little while ;)

(If you've done the same, you know what I'm talking about!)

Re:Blast Corps (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14709708)

I finally had to give up on that. I was only four medals away, too. I just could not figure out how to get a platinum on those two Pacman levels and a couple of the races. One of my happiest moments in gaming was when I finally nailed the Backlash training level, blowing away the required time for platinum in a single perfect sweep of the level. It was so beautiful, I just sat and watched the replay for a long time. I wish I had been able to record it.

Of course, it took a lot of effort to get that far. There aren't many games these days that I'm willing to put that much time into in an attempt to unlock everything.

This is a big joke, right? (0, Flamebait)

Willeh (768540) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708483)

Damn, it's almost as if they weren't even trying and just picked up some random games, and adding to their Indy cred with including that japanese only game.

And i gotta ask, Cruisin' USA? What kind of shit is that? Those games were worse than Hitler, and they haven't aged well, i can tell you. You'd be better off with a copy of atari 2600 ET, i swear to $DEITY.

Re:This is a big joke, right? (1, Funny)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708781)

Those games were worse than Hitler
Wow, did those games commit genocide and started a world war, causing about 62 million deaths? Other than the poor taste of your comparison, just check GameFAQs: Cruisin' USA gets mixed reviews, but mostly positive. Some people do like E.T., but it gets mostly terrible grades.

Re:This is a big joke, right? (1)

Peganthyrus (713645) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708810)

Obviously you've never played Treasure's work! I'm not much for the Nintendo properties; finding a used copy of their "Mischief Makers" for five bucks was why I picked up a used n64, and I was delighted when a friend got me "Sin and Punishment" for my birthday. It's a simple rail-shooter, but it's gorgeous, and stylish, and a lot of pick-up-and-play fun. Plus all the dialogue was in English, with Japanese subtitles.

Re:This is a big joke, right? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14709163)

Damn, it's almost as if they weren't even trying and just picked up some random games, and adding to their Indy cred with including that japanese only game.

And i gotta ask, Cruisin' USA? What kind of shit is that? Those games were worse than Hitler, and they haven't aged well, i can tell you. You'd be better off with a copy of atari 2600 ET, i swear to $DEITY.

Speaking of "indy cred"...

Re:This is a big joke, right? (2, Informative)

itscolduphere (933449) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709462)

Damn, it's almost as if they weren't even trying and just picked up some random games, and adding to their Indy cred with including that japanese only game.

Well, they did mention in the article that they were listing games that were more obscure, under the assumption that general Mario/Zelda type games were already going to be done. Hence the randomness.

Thought I agree that the Cruisin' games, while not quite up to Hitler levels, were pretty bad.

Tetrisphere (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708485)

That's all I need.

Goldeneye (2, Informative)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708494)

I played this at a tournament at my university a few months back and the game really has stood up to the test of time. The graphics are ugly but some of the maps are works of genius. Also, Banjo Kazooie - I didn't own an N64 so this was one of the games I missed out on and really enjoyed the couple of times I got to play it at a friends'. Lots of people will want Ocarina of Time, but that's been available on the Gamecube with Wind Waker for a while. Majora's Mask is a little more difficult to get hold of though, so I can see Nintendo making both available pretty quickly for the Revolution.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

nocomment (239368) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708745)

Majora's Mask is on the same disk as Ocarina of Time for Gamecube. Along with Zelda 1, and Zelda II.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708958)

Yep, the Collector's disc that came with Wind Waker pre-orders. If you didn't pre-order it it's not as simple to find as Ocarina of Time, which came on a 2nd disc with lots of copies of Wind Waker - at least here in the UK.

Re:Goldeneye (1)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709058)

No, that was a second, separate promotional disc, bundled with Cubes sold at a certain time or given out free as part of Nintendo's loyalty program. The Wind Waker disc was a pre-order deal that included The Ocarina of Time and the Ocarina of Time Master Quest, a remix released for the 64DD in Japan.

All of them!!! (1)

Pitr (33016) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708495)

C'mon, just put them all in there. If I can emulate it on my PC, they can make it work on the revolution. Unless the game REALLY sucked, there's no reason to omit anything.

Re:All of them!!! (1)

Bloomy (714535) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708652)

Everything but Superman 64 [wikipedia.org] , then.

Re:All of them!!! (1)

straterpatrick (594954) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708758)

Licensing issues will prevent the release of a lot of games. Goldeneye is in trouble now that EA owns exclusive rights to the Bond video games. It's up to the Lawyers not the Programmers.

Re:All of them!!! (1)

Bloomy (714535) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709578)

There's more to it than that. Microsoft now owns Rare, so why would they make Goldeneye (or Blast Corps, Jet Force Gemini, Banjo Kazooie, Perfect Dark, or, heck, Battletoads) available for the Revolution download service instead of the Xbox Live Arcade? Nintendo may have some say with the games they published or licensed their characters (Donkey Kong games, Star Fox Adventures), but any 3rd party game might not be available. Especially if a port is being developed for a handheld or compilation.

Re:All of them!!! (1)

88NoSoup4U88 (721233) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708870)

I totally agree: On top of that I -really- would like to see that each (multiplayer)game from the NES-SNES era is playable on-line.

Body Harvest (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14708499)

best. game. ever.

We can only assume.... (2, Insightful)

zarthrag (650912) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708519)

...that Ocarana of Time is already on the list.

N64 Tetris? (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708539)

Ok, so N64's version of Tetris did finally add some elements to their game that the Tengen NES version had already put in years earlier on a much less powerful system, but come on now. Why the N64 version? Why not just have a Revolution version. Is there really that much a difference between versions? Would it matter if it were the 64 version or one made specifically for the Revolution?

I'll turn off my Tetris rant for long enough to point out that the thing I'm looking forward to the most out of the Revolution's backlog are the NES and SNES games. TO be honest, a lot of the 64 games didn't really stand the test of time IMHO. I used to LOVE Goldeneye, but it's just not the same playing it anymore. On the other hand, I can still pop in Metroid or Super Metroid and thoroughly enjoy them.

Re:N64 Tetris? (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708682)

Because if they just release an old game that already exists, than hopefully it will only cost $5. A new tetris game designed specifically for the Revo wouldn't actually add anything new, but would end up costing the user $60.

Re:N64 Tetris? (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708995)

"A new tetris game designed specifically for the Revo wouldn't actually add anything new, but would end up costing the user $60."

How much did Geometry Wars cost? I'm pretty sure it wasn't $60.

Re:N64 Tetris? (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709111)

Isn't that a downloadable game? not a full release title that you buy on the shelves from a store? I think that's the major difference here. Some quick game that they threw together for download is going to be pretty cheap for the user. Something that they create as a full game for the system is going to cost a lot more. Why throw together something quick when you can just rerelease something that's already been programmed.

Re:N64 Tetris? (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709264)

"Isn't that a downloadable game? not a full release title that you buy on the shelves from a store?"

Yes, it's a downloadable game. Are you suggesting that I should have to go to the store and buy a game that will probably take up negligible disk space?

"Some quick game that they threw together for download is going to be pretty cheap for the user."

Maybe cheap as in "It doesn't cost much."I'd agree but if you're talking cheap as in "Not as good as store bought." I think the owners of Geometry Wars would strongly disagree. From what I hear, a lot of them are playing it more than their fancy schmancy $60 games.

"Something that they create as a full game for the system is going to cost a lot more."

Do you really consider Tetris to be a full game anymore? Maybe a full game for the Game Boy but I didn't even really think that the NES version warranted the $30 they wanted for it when it first came out. I like Tetris and all, but it does fit into the "not good enough for $60 release but good enough for $5 download" category quite nicely.

"Why throw together something quick when you can just rerelease something that's already been programmed."

Why stick with an older game emulating on new hardware when it would be fairly trivial to take a Tetris engine and build targeted at the Revolution?

Re:N64 Tetris? (2, Insightful)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709005)

My friend, I think you need to try something a bit different.

Tetrisphere [ign.com] for the N64 is one of the greatest spins on the tetris formula, and hands down the best in 3D. It had quick and exciting 2-Player action, as well as a slew of great single-player modes. Not to mention one of the best trance/techno soundtracks in any game, ever.

Tetrisphere alone would justify the price of the Revolution, IMHO.

Re:N64 Tetris? (1)

kaptron (850747) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709119)

I would have been quick to agree with you had it not been for some college buddies a few years ago who still kept an N64 around for the sole purpose of playing New Tetris (I could have sworn it had a different name, but oh well). As far as I could tell, it was the only Tetris to feature the challenge of creating 4x4 blocks, as explained here [wikipedia.org] , which completely changed the strategy of the game.

The screenshot in the wikipedia article is perfect at demonstrating the block laying strategy, trying to create 4x4 blocks instead of just lines. There were a couple of other features that popped up in other tetris games (having a "reserve" piece that you could swap out with the trigger buttons), but otherwise the gameplay is unlike any other tetris game I know of. I never did get very good at it myself but my friends were totally into it.

Anyways, I agree that this or any other simple Tetris clone could easily just be made into a revolution game (or compilation), but in terms of picking out obscure N64 games that people would want to play today, I have to say that New Tetris was a good choice. There is something about that added gameplay element that makes it way more fun than regular tetris.

Of course, it still wasn't as badass as Super Puzzle Fighter II [wikipedia.org] .

Re:N64 Tetris? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710008)

As far as I could tell, it was the only Tetris to feature the challenge of creating 4x4 blocks, as explained here, which completely changed the strategy of the game.

THQ's Tetris Worlds includes The New Tetris as one of its modes, but it's awful for other reasons; Google search for "actually breaks Tetris" [google.com] to see why. I believe Tetanus On Drugs [pineight.com] , a homebrew GBA game, implements the same 4x4 block scoring rule, along with the additional challenge of vertigo-inducing playfield display distortions.

Launch title? (2, Informative)

Thad Boyd (880932) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708566)

The N64 had two launch titles: Super Mario 64 and Pilotwings 64.

Re:Launch title? (1)

Jelloman (69747) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709239)

Ah I remember coming home with my new N64 and being quite pleasantly surprised by PilotWings. I played it all night long. And I'd come back to it when I was feeling stressed out, because it's very relaxing, especially the music and sound.

I'd like to see:
  • Mario Kart 64 (my fave N64 title, and still my favorite version of Kart, though I haven't played it on the DS yet)
  • Diddy Kong Racing
  • GoldenEye
  • StarFox
  • BattleTanx: Global Assault
  • Blast Corp
  • 1080 Snowboarding

ShadowMan (1)

jferris (908786) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708592)

One of the most underrated games, ever...

N64 Blast Corps on Revolution would be sweet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14708649)

But even better, think what Rare could do in a sequel on the Xbox 360! Online multiplayer high-definition demolition could very well turn out to be better than sex.

Re:N64 Blast Corps on Revolution would be sweet... (1)

yetdog (760930) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709556)

But, being a /. poster, how would you know what the latter was like? :)

Hmmmm... (1)

dreemernj (859414) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708651)

That's a tough one. I'd go with Diddy Kong Racing. Used to play that against co-workers at the store we worked at for hours (back when there was an N64 display model there). It's actually hard for me to pick. I guess because of the kinds of games I play. Pretty much everything I wanted to play was bad on N64. Destruction Derby for N64 was crap compared to Psygnosis' DD for PSX. No good fighting games. No good sims in general.

Can we suggest SNES games we want for Revolution? There's a ton of those...

10 LET M$ = "Rare" (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710033)

I'd go with Diddy Kong Racing.

Nintendo may have to go through difficult negotiations with the Xbox company to license anything involving Rareware.

Blast Corps! (1)

cmh5 (446808) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708655)

That game was fantastic! I'm going to have to hunt down an old copy.

Port worries (1)

eSavior (767078) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708703)

Here is the thing that worries me, if you are a gba/ds fan you know that all these companies that own the rights to the old SNES/NES games are coming out of the woodwork to make ports for the gba and ds. I fear these same companies would be hesitant to release these older games again on the Revo because it might cut heavily into their sales of the cartidges. What does this mean for us as gamers? You know how on itunes you are paying 99c per song and so a 12 track cd costs about the same as a 12 track cd in a store... That way it doesnt really make buying cds look bad. It might mean we will have to pay whatever these companies are charging for their gba versions to download and play them on the Revo. So like around 30$ a pop. I hope this isn't the case. While I certainly love Final Fantasy 4 (recently ported to the gba). If I really wanted to play it on a console, I dont think I would fork over 34$ just to download it. It's hard to justify paying that cost when its...
A.) not portable
B.) Resting on flash memory.. (raise your hand if you have had a thumb drive die recently)
C.) I can get the original version for about that much on ebay.
D.) Well we all know the answer to D, but I am not going to say it but lets say it involves a Z.

So heres hoping for sane prices and good games. The download service should really be a HUGE feature for people to buy a revo, it shouldnt be just another cute feature... which is what it will be if they give us a lot of stick.

Oh yes and my revo wishlist...
1. Final Fantasy(4,5,6)
2. Super Mario World
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Megaman X1-X3
5. Kirby: Superstar

CBFD (2, Insightful)

ShadowsHawk (916454) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708759)

What about Conker's Bad Fur Day?

The only game I need is... (2, Insightful)

RoadDoggFL (876257) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708764)

Conker's Bad Fur Day.

I was so hopeful of Live and Reloaded but Rare games just aren't the same without that Nintendo touch. Online play for all these splitscreen gems would be a blast, too.

Perfect Dark (3, Informative)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708921)

Disclaimer: If it's in TFA, sorry, I it's blocked at work and I can't read it. Now that that's out of the way...

Perfect Dark. Hell yeah. I loved this game back in college. I would love it if it ran at full 60fps too. This is the best multiplayer FPS that I know of without networking. I think it would translate very well (maybe not with the reflex enhancing pills, or whatever they were). I see a lot of posts for GoldenEye as well. I think Perfect dark had an edge on GoldenEye. Even though the latter was still an exceptional game.

I had a chance to play the 360 version last weekend and it was a pretty weak game. The controls were too loose and the game looked (compared to other 360 games) like crap. The game was on a 42" Samsung DLP Hi-Def, so I could see the game in all it's hi-def glory. Basically, everything looked like it had been coated in high-gloss wax, even Joanna's fur coat. The levels were horrificly un-original. Rooms were used over and over again. You constantly see the same wall. Without the annoying arrows all over you'd be lost without a clue. The gun models make them look like blocks of wood. The scopes aren't even circular.

I miss the old PD...

Re:Perfect Dark (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709078)

This is the best multiplayer FPS that I know of without networking

That doesn't really give you much to compare it to. Better than Wolfenstein? There isn't really that much out there without network support. Some really old stuff, and a few titles for the N64/PS1. Although I'd have to rate Metroid Prime as the best FPS sans network.

Re:Perfect Dark (1)

Otonotachibana (826415) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709137)

Perfect Dark was brilliant but the framerate just killed my enjoyment of the game. It definitely falls under the "Top Ten Games that Missed their Potential". I thoroughly enjoyed what I could and held out hope that the game would get ported to the PC or a more powerful console. I tried emulators but they do not improve the framerate. Perhaps a Revolution version will come with a "Framerate Patch".

[S]oft|OCP (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710063)

Perhaps a Revolution version will come with a "Framerate Patch".

It has been stated before that Nintendo will enhance the graphics of games ported to or emulated on Revolution. If this means overclocking the emulated MIPS CPU and Reality GPU, then so be it.

FZERO (1)

TheBig33Tuna (949011) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708942)

Most fun race game to play multi IMHO... I think it was F-Zero "X" for n64.

I'd play that game right now if I could..

Nine OBSCURE N64 games.... (3, Informative)

doormat (63648) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708956)

I thoguht the article was bogus until I read the title of the article again and saw the word "obscure", which obviously removes games like Goldeneye from the running.

Re:Nine OBSCURE N64 games.... (1)

engagebot (941678) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709167)

And since i don't think anyone would consider Pilotwings 64 'obscure', I'm still not sure how it got on the list...

N64? Pfft (1)

ajkst1 (630286) | more than 8 years ago | (#14708981)

Goldeneye was a classic and more than deserves to be on the Revo, but come on...you have the ENTIRE NES and SNES libraries to choose from as well. I'd love to see a tiered download system. Obviously the more popular games (the Megaman franchise and some others) will cost more, but you could have other lesser known games in there for cheap, like Adventures in Disney World (classic...I was like 6 when that game came out). I'd like to see packs of games as well. Something like Ninja Gaiden 1-3 for a certain price. That would be kind of cool.

Yoshi's Island for the SNES would be cool. It's surprising how hard that game can be, especially when you're trying to get every last thing in the level. Man...now I want a Revolution...COME ON NINTENDO!

Pilotwings? (2, Interesting)

engagebot (941678) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709132)

I'm suprised to see Pilotwings 64 on that list. I thought we all had acknowledged that it was just a launch period eye-candy title. If we're going to get nostalgic about the N64, that's not the one i would have picked.

I saw they had a review of the best SNES games too. And i specifically went through to see if they were smart enough to include Uniracers. They did. So Me and my brother weren't crazy after all...

Re:Pilotwings? (1)

demeteloaf (865003) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709485)

I actually had a lot of fun with pilotwings... I dunno, i guess some of the later levels had enough challenge in them that it was fun just to play around.

Anyways, as for games that i want to see, I definitly agree with Sin and Punishment... I have heard so many great things about that game, and i'm pretty annoyed that i never got to play it. Jet Force Gemini also was fun, and does deserve to be on the list. Oh, and you're definitly right about uniracers, that game was awsome.

Cartridge day memories (1)

Captain Spam (66120) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709143)

Blast Corps is another of my all-time favorite games. It's just so bizzare a game. There's something about just driving a massive bulldozer through buildings that's just really fun. Plus the fact that Rare didn't take the whole thing as seriously as the game's story makes it out to be, resulting in the extra levels (anything from races to Pac-Man), the space levels, the simple prompt "Now do it faster!", and, of course, the game's final ranking, "You can stop now".

So that'd be on my list. Other games? Well, the staple multiplayer games would have to be there. Goldeneye 007, Mario Kart 64 (yes, for all its flaws, we still played that game to death), and Super Smash Bros. Both Zelda games, too. I don't care how much "Majora's Mask wasn't a true Zelda game whine whine whine", it was still a masterpiece.

My friends and I have fond memories of the N64 Mario Golf and Mario Tennis games, but without the ability to import GBC characters, that wouldn't last long. Star Fox 64's multiplayer lacked majorly, but its single-player was a blast. And if they can use the Revolution to increase the bleeding framerate, the original Perfect Dark might be tolerable. If they have the rights to put it on the Rev, too.

There's probably a few I can't remember, but those'll work for a start. Yes, I am a bit of a crusty old hippy Nintendo fanboy, what of it?

Diddy Kong Racing! Press Start! (2)

Eli Gottlieb (917758) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709149)

Despite it's childish looking graphics and AI that I only get real competition from by typing TIMETOLOSE, that is the single best racing game ever. Unlockables all over the place, infinite replay value, and cheats that are actually fun (two player adventure mode, for example).

I only have one problem I want them to fix: Don't let people click Restart Race on the pause menu in multiplayer Tracks mode. My brother used to just click that whenever I'd get a decent advantage on him (almost always), and this misfeature has discouraged quite a few I know from playing at all.

The highest praise I can give here is that at one point many years ago, I lost my DKR cartridge. Once I had the money, I bought another one.

Yes, yes, absolutely yes.. (1)

JMZero (449047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709251)

This was the best Kart racing game ever (until Mario Kart DS, which beats it mostly due to the amazing online multiplayer). Planes, cars, and hovercrafts - all different, all awesome. Great game.

Re:Yes, yes, absolutely yes.. (1)

wvitXpert (769356) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709606)

That was, and still is the main game I play on my N64.

Ogre Battle!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14709224)

Such a great series. Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber is a must port IMHO. Definatlly a sleeper hit. Anyone else besides me remember spending HOURS replaying one battle over and over again so you didn't loose a single guy?

Pokémon Snap! (2, Insightful)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709456)

What, no Pokémon Snap on the list? (Seriously, if you haven't played that, do give it a try. It's surprisingly addictive, and I don't even like Pokémon otherwise.)

Re:Pokémon Snap! (1)

miyako (632510) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709976)

I have to agree, pokemon snap was a very unique and addictive game. For those of you who've never heard of it, the premis of the game is that you are a photographer working for a scientist studying Pokemon. You ride around on a track in this little vehicle through this pokemon sanctuary, and your goal is to snap photos of various pokemon- or natural formations that resemble pokemon. Points are given for how good the photo is. The environments were incredibly detailed, as were the pokemon themselves. The game had some puzzle elements as well. You could get a flute and food to help lure the pokemon to certain areas. In one level for example you can use pokemon food to lure an electric pokemon to terminals in a power plant. You can then coerce it to using it's power to charge up the power plant. This leads to an egg hatching and a rare bird type pokemon.
This biggest problem with the game was that it was just too short. I'd love to see a new version of this for the Revolution that takes advantage of the new controller.

I would certainly TREASURE the thought... (1)

Swimmin' Pants (911939) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709562)

...of being able to download Mischief Makers to my Revolution.

Tetrisphere (1)

neovoxx (818095) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709594)

Tetrisphere http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrisphere/ [wikipedia.org] should be a downloadable game. In my opinion THE ultimate Tetris derived game.

Hmm.. (1)

RyoShin (610051) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709651)

Since we can assume that the big Mario and Zelda games are already on this list, here's my N64 pick:

Mario Party (1, 2, and/or 3)
Star Fox 64
Harvest Moon 64
Jet Force Gemini
Goldeneye
Banjo Kazooie
Banjo Tooie

There's going to be some problems with third party developers (and Rare) to get them on board. If they're offered a cut of the take, though, I think most developers would jump on the bandwagon, as they'd be able to take in even more cash for free. (Obviously, offering games for free would be great, but we need to be realistic here.)

I think Nintendo could boost their download service even more by bugging the hell out of Sega. While Sega has made some compilation discs for the current generation, there are so many games, especially for the Dreamcast, that are stuck on Sega systems. Get Sega to allow/sell Genisis/Master System, Game Gear, 32X, Sega CD, Sega Saturn, and (if possible), Dreamcast games, and you'll have a much greater opening line. Games like Road Rash (Genesis), Ecco the Dolphin (Genesis, the Dreamcast version is especially beautiful), and your regular Sonic load would be a great addition to Nintendo's titles.

Is the emulation built into the system, or would they be able to work Sega emulation in somewhere?

A nice list... (2, Informative)

Cutriss (262920) | more than 8 years ago | (#14709719)

I've played six of the seven NES games (never played Zombie Nation), eight of the ten SNES "games" (didn't try the Strike series, didn't have any desire whatsoever to play a Robocop game), and, oddly enough, only two of the N64 games, those being Pilotwings 64 and Blast Corps.

I bought Blast Corps before I even got an N64 because I knew I wanted that game whenever I finally did buy one. How's that for loyalty?

StarTropics would be an interesting one. It has the distinction of being one of the few games Nintendo developed exclusively for the US market - there was never a Japanese release for it or the sequel. Similarly, even though the arch-villian of the series makes a cameo appearance in F-Zero X, it's only the case in the US version, and his craft is just some generic racer in the other releases. But yes, it was a really good series, a bit like Zelda but with more of an action angle. I didn't care for the sequel as much, but the original was and still is pretty good.

I remember being rather disappointed to find out that the sequel to Blaster Master went to the Genesis, since I never had one. In the end, though, I believe the sequel ended up being not so great, and the Game Boy port (Blaster Master Boy) wasn't too good either from what I remember.

UN Squadron was great. I think I played the arcade ROM a bit (Area 88), and the console adaptation was really fun. I particularly enjoyed some of the bonus areas where you'd take a craft and make diving sweeps in a valley trying to bomb particular targets. A great was to make cash to buy that expensive EF-2000 and have some fun at the same time. In some ways, the game reminded me of Bionic Commando - not so much the whole 2D-action aspect, but the map system and plot development.

Legend of the Mystical Ninja - Ganbare Goemon IV, if I remember right, was a fantastic game. The 2-player mode was neat, but it got to be really frustrating at times to work together with your partner since it was pretty easy in the side-scrolling stages to cause your buddy to fall in a pit. The mini-games were great fun and the graphics/music were fabulous. It was just outright wacky and fun. Unfortunately, the next game Konami brought to the US was the 3D adaptation put on the N64, which history showed to be a less-than-forgiving system for 3rd parties, and the game itself wasn't so great...so as our punishment, we haven't seen another Goemon game in a long time...

EVO was pretty good, but historically a bit overrated I think. Enix made some great RPGs at the time (ActRaiser is a fabulous game), but EVO I think gets a lot of attention because of all the evolution-based RPGs out there, it was the only one that was ever any good, even though it had its flaws.

It was nice and nostalgic and all to see this article, but really, it was nothing more than a "games we like" list, and I don't think that's newsworthy to be honest. Now, if they tell me that Capcom and Konami and Square-Enix have stepped up to the plate for Way-Backwards Compatibility, THEN it is most DEFINITELY news.

Mischief Makers (1)

bluemeep (669505) | more than 8 years ago | (#14710028)

Mischief Makers was one of those incredibly random platformers that tries to invigorate the stale genre with some new quirk. With MM, you shake things. Lots of things. EVERYTHING. You start hearing Marina's happy "Shake! Shake!" in your sleep if you play it enough.

Grab, shake, throw. Sometimes things explode. Sometimes they get bigger. Sometimes YOU get bigger. Sometimes you grab them to fling yourself up 1000 feet in the air. Whatever happens, it's often a unique event.

It's quality fun, though some of the levels can be incredibly frustrating if you're trying for a 100% completion rate (which affects the ending). In the near decade I've owned it, I've only gotten the gem for the last footrace stage once...

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