Novell Suggests Linux Program Replacements 358
An anonymous reader writes "As a result of over 14,000 votes since the beginning of January, Adobe Photoshop, Autocad, Dreamweaver, iTunes, and Macromedia Flash are currently the top 5 'most wanted' Windows/MacOS-only applications in Novell's online survey. From comments made by the survey participants, Novell has also listed suggested substitutes for each of the five. What do readers think of these suggestions?"
Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Because then we linux fans can also churn out web pages that are an eyesore, full of bloat, proprietary ...
Yeah ,,, whatever.
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:2)
And I think many web developers would love to use a technology that is equivalent to Flash but open and OSS, if such a technology existed and was practical. But it doesn't.
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:2)
Add in the need for proprietary extensions for database access.
Also, there is nothing to imply that any Linux version of any of these products has to be either open or free.
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Since those three conditions are only ever met under the best of circumstances, I suggest your favorite text editor as a replacement for it. Seriously. Hand coding your pages is just as fast as creating them in Dreamweaver, albeit with a higher learning curve, and what you can craft with the pure code is fantastic.
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:3, Interesting)
Finally, someone who "gets it." Especially since most work IS maintenance work, and its a lot easier to write a perl script and make file to regenerate 100 pages than to load each one and chan
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:2)
The fifth, iTunes, is a proprietary DRM package that it would be best to stay away from (although it too, is popular in geekdom).
iTunes is more than the iTMS (Score:5, Informative)
If you could make a program which replicated everything that iTunes does, without the iTMS or DRM functions, I think you'd do what 90% of people want.
I know a lot of iPod owners (and I'm sure there are quite a few here on
But replicating the DRM functions isn't necessarily important in terms of coming up with a free alternative to iTunes, it's replicating that useability experience and other features that is.
Re:iTunes is more than the iTMS (Score:2)
Re:iTunes is more than the iTMS (Score:2)
iTunes and ease of use in the same sentence? Gaaaa. Even experienced software developers have a large rampup period learning its arcane interface, and it doesn't make easy things easy at all--you have to know which of a large number of tabs do what, and you can't (for instance) right-click on an mp3 and say "send this to my player". There is a pane that supports dragging a
Re:iTunes is more than the iTMS (Score:2)
The main way I can tell that iTunes is easy to use is that I gave my dad an iPod for his birthday and the only emails I've had from him about it have been saying how he
Re:iTunes is more than the iTMS (Score:2)
I'm going to guess that you're a Windows user. I'm making that guess because I think you'd have to be a Windows user to think it's more obvious to select something, right click, and send it to the player, than drag-and-drop it onto the iPod in the left-hand Source pane. (I'm not sure how you got that hidden by default, since it's where the Library and all the user's Playlists are kept, as well as how the iTMS
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:2)
Linux fans aren't happy just churning out bloated eyesore DESKTOP apps anymore!
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:3, Insightful)
If SVG ever becomes standard, we'll be able to do all the animation we want. Current DHTML libraries aren't bad for this, but scaling is hackish, rotation is nonexistent, and shearing is simply out of the question. Not to mention more complex animations like shaped loops (such as the hollow "splats" you might see in a
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:3, Insightful)
And, as per usual, any discussion about Flash tends to stereotype Linux users as stubborn, backwards types that hate everything that regular people like about computers. Great image to project about yourselves, guys.
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:3, Informative)
I've not seen a monkeypunching banner in god, years now.
SVG is nice, I'm using it to do stuff I'd only have been able to do in flash or java before. I've got several interactive diagrams for a webapp of mine, even as you change the parameters, so does the image (there are too many combinations to just switch out one image for another). It's pretty neat. I'm planning on doing even cooler things, including a few 3d applets.
And the best part about it, I do not need a windows machine to run the macro
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:4, Funny)
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And, as per usual, any discussion about Flash tends to stereotype Linux users as stubborn, backwards types that hate everything that regular people like about computers.
And all this time, I thought the reason I hated continuous hypermotion is because I'm an old fart that wants to read the page rather than get distracted by aggrivating monkeys.
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:2)
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:2)
I guess you hate ASCII and Unicode as well, because they are used to write spam?
Without ASCII/Unicode, I guess I couldn't read the web pages that I say I want to read, could I?
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:2)
Hey, I love the "9 coronas" and "foamy rants" swf as much as the next person. Unfortunately, too much flash is devoted to aweful ads or really aweful sites. You know what I'm talking about - overly complicated stuff that is supposed to "shock and awe" us about how wonderful your site, and by extension, your product are supposed to be. In those cases, it should be renamed from "flash" to "clash".
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:4, Informative)
Rather a lot hate it since for some reason people write sites that rely on it, despite the fact that Flash is not free (forget open) for many users, and is not usable by many.
Most businesses I've worked at do not allow flash players to be installed, because the audit terms are very nebulous ("You agree that Macromedia may audit your use of the Software for compliance with these terms at any time, upon reasonable notice.") and open up the possibility of Macromedia getting access to your internal machines.
And use is completely forbidden on "mobile devices, set top boxes (STB), handhelds, phones, web pads, tablets and Tablet PCs that are not running Windows XP Tablet PC Edition, game consoles, TVs, DVD players, media centers".
Re:Dreamweaver and flash ... (Score:3, Interesting)
That's not the only problem. Having it separate from the rest of the browser also means it doesn't play well with the rest o
Audio in SVG? (Score:4, Interesting)
If SVG ever becomes standard, we'll be able to do all the animation we want.
But does a solution involving SVG allow for synchronized audio? For instance, if I wanted to use SVG instead of SWF to make an animated series such as Homestar Runner or Weebl and Bob, would that work?
CAD (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sure there are people running small shops off of [insert your favorite linux cad program here] who can't wait to tell us about them. However, if you're running even a moderate sized shop, you probably need the real thing. Besides, one of the real strengths of ACAD are all of the add ons, like Land Developer Desktop, that you certainly can't get for just any random cad-lite package.
List of alternatives (Score:4, Informative)
UGS is also porting software. http://www.ugs.com/about_us/press/press.shtml?id=4 367 [ugs.com]
Personally, I'd like to see SolidWorks ported. Yes, I ditched Acad for solid modelers 12 years ago and would be very reluctant to go back.
Re:CAD (Score:2)
AutoCAD as the standard is probably for worse.
I currently use AutoCAD but I watched a demonstration of Solidworks and it makes AutoCAD look like the ancient design tools concept that it is.
But I would also go so far as to say that VariCAD could replace a large percentage of the work that is done with AutoCAD. I've used VariCAD a bit, until the demo license ran out, and other than learning a different interfac
Re:CAD (Score:3, Insightful)
The sad thing about this is that Autocad shines in the A/E/C, civil, and mapping fields, all of the others mentioned are solid modellers/mechanical design and drafting packages. Acad even made a decent GIS or FM with add-o
Re:CAD (Score:4, Informative)
AutoCAD (Score:5, Insightful)
I for one would have no problem writing checks to AutoDesk for AutoCAD if it were ported to Linux.
Re:AutoCAD (Score:2, Interesting)
That's good, because you'll be writing a lot of big ones. Most folks have never even been able to get close to this kind of software, because it's just too damn expensive. Too bad, because 99.99999% of the world has absolutely no way to create and share design documents. It's an exclusive club, populated by overtaxed addicts. It's a hard habit to break: if you need CAD, you need to pay the man.
And pay and pay and pay. Autodesk is notorious for b
Re:AutoCAD (Score:3, Insightful)
Some screenshots:
http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?gro up_id=105292 [sourceforge.net]
A sample script:
http://www.cobbaut.be/stok.sh.txt [cobbaut.be]
Re:AutoCAD (Score:5, Informative)
Re:AutoCAD (Score:2)
See Ed Foster's Gripelog [gripe2ed.com] for details.
Re:AutoCAD (Score:2, Informative)
Immediate Slashdot Effect (Score:2, Funny)
Site Slashdotted 9:43
Way to go crew !
So.... (Score:5, Insightful)
No offense, but the Linux community already has thousands of 14-year-olds cranking out helpful information like this -- it hardly seems like Novell needs to join in.
Re:So.... (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdotted? (Score:2)
Maybe this [nyud.net] will work.
But really, the programs suggested have reasonable alternates that I know of (minus autoCAD, since I haven't used that since college).
Photoshop -- gimp [gimp.org]
itunes -- there are multiple, but i'm still content with xmms [xmms.org]
flash -- HTML web pages. i'm not the only one browsing with flashblock on, for good reason
dreamweaver -- vi [vim.org] & emacs [gnu.org] -- nuf said
H*R in HTML? (Score:2)
there are multiple, but i'm still content with xmms
The word content has two meanings. You used it as an adjective meaning happy, but it is also a mass noun meaning works of authorship other than computer programs. So given that xmms lacks iTunes Music Store, do you find the other kind of "content" through iRATE?
flash -- HTML web pages.
Please point me to the HTML version of Homestar Runner.
Slashdotted already (Score:2)
This is good first step -- I want better apps available on the Linux platform. Personally, I'd like to see a good file manager ported to Linux (comparable to Directory Opus 8). So far, every file manager I've tried are either functional copies of DirOpus 4-5 or that old Norton Dos-app.
this is SO going to be a troll-fest... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:this is SO going to be a troll-fest... (Score:5, Informative)
Krita on Windows? (Score:2)
Besides, the Gimp isn't the only player in town
Which "town"? I'll explain why an important "town" is cross-platform applications that work on both Microsoft Windows and *n?x.
In eleven days (Feb. 27), we'll release the rc1 of KOffice 1.5, with Krita 1.5 in it. And Krita has already cmyk, 16 bit support, lab, raw import and lots of other fun features.
I've read that the transition from Windows to KDE is easier if you migrate users to the apps one at a time before you switch the operating system and d
Re:Retraining has a nonzero cost (Score:2)
Really? I have a bunch of applications here that can read and write layered PSDs, including some hacked-together user-made scripts. Does Adobe charge developers a license fee for PSD compatibility?
Re:Retraining has a nonzero cost (Score:2)
Help with next generation GIMP (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.gegl.org/ [gegl.org]
Todd
Un-Gimp the UI first. Examples follow... (Score:4, Insightful)
Resize selections, please. Not by adding or subtraction, but by dragging, like in All Other Apps(TM).
Not everything on right-click
Resize brushes by pressing buttons, remove limitations - I don't want to create new brushes to get a new size.
And so on. This has nothing to do with imitating photoshop or anything, it's just common sense and removing frustrations. Just because the people who have been developing Gimp since the 90's are able to work *effectively* in it doesn't mean anyone else can.
Others can help fill this list, then someone maybe, maybe dares file a bug or ask the list. Then again, Carol the Dragon *will* bite your head of for it unless one of the others get there first, so wear flame-safe suit.
PhotoShop 7 reportedly works with WINE (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:PhotoShop 7 reportedly works with WINE (Score:2)
They suggest a few alternatives for Photoshop, but they aren't really relative. We've already had this debate on Slashdot before, and the consensus is that even if Gimp offers the same functionality as Photoshop, unless it presents an identical interface, people aren't going to use it. Professionals using Photoshop are content to continue using Photoshop, and they're not going to switch to L
Re:PhotoShop 7 reportedly works with WINE (Score:3, Insightful)
MySQL's pricing is per year, but Microsoft's price is per CPU. So on a dual xeon (not unreasonable for a database server), it is $595 vs $10,000. That is 16 years of MySQL for the price of a single SQL Server license, and something tells me most SQL servers are going to be upgraded a bit more frequently than every 16 years.
I'm also pretty sure that Win2K3 costs more than RHEL. RHEL ES (basic server editio
Er...this isn't Novell (Score:5, Interesting)
Aw, crap (Score:2)
All I want from OSS... (Score:2)
I have not seen a single OSS (GUI) application which uses this basic interface concept.
I'm sure this is a religious issue, but I've not actually seen the arguments against MDIs.
Re:All I want from OSS... (Score:2)
1 - Your window manager provides perfectly good window control -- why would you need this duplicated into the application.
2 - If the window manager is changed, how does MDI accomodate the new controls?
3 - MDI doesn't work with virtual desktops.
There are more problems with MDI, but these are the top three. Basically, NO application should EVER use MDI. Certainly not in a Unix environment.
Ratboy.
Re:All I want from OSS... (Score:3, Insightful)
That's better-stated than my comment below. I have a window manager to let me manage windows. I don't need an application to bring its own window manager with it. I mean, I can scream "give me mechanism not policy" until my face turns red but until application designers "get it", I'm going to be stuck having to deal with the fact that Windows has a crappy window manager which forces application developers to bring their own window management capabilities.
Seriously, is there anybody who has spent some time
Re:All I want from OSS... (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh, that's simple: MDI programs cover up real estate needlessly. If I'm editing a couple of photos in an SDI program like the GIMP, I want the screen area for those photos and whatever tool windows I'm using and nothing else taken up by my graphics manipulation program. Why? Several reasons:
Re:All I want from OSS... (Score:2)
Ah, I *knew* someone would bring up Emacs sooner or later
Re:All I want from OSS... (Score:2)
And if you don't have the child windows covering everything, why waste the space painting up a gray background? You could stick gaim in one of the unused portions, and follow a conversation, or whatev
Re:All I want from OSS... (Score:2)
Re:All I want from OSS... (Score:3, Insightful)
Please, for the love of god, Learn the concept of an MDI.
I have not seen a single OSS (GUI) application which uses this basic interface concept.
I'm sure this is a religious issue, but I've not actually seen the arguments against MDIs.
No, it's not a religious issue. You obviously haven't mastered the power of multiple desktops yet. I normally use nine of them and set their bindings to Ctl-Alt-Keypad #, but some people prefer to use a pager. It really makes it easy to keep your work organized. Really, give it
Misguided Objections and Real Obstacles (Score:3, Insightful)
If someone says they need to run Adobe Creative Studio (say), you have three choices:
(1) see if it's possible to give them Linux with some combination of open source/Libre software, and have them be as effective. In a corporate environment this will probably involve training.
(2) see if you can get Adobe Creative Suite (or whatever it is they say they need) to run on Linux, either via a system like WINE or by arranging for the software to be ported.
(3) arrange for the corporation to employ someone else.
People's needs and people's beliefs are not the same. It's not sufficient to say "you could actually work in this totally different way with these tools that are totally unknown to you" because that just creates anxiety, nervousness and distrust. You have to be gentler than that.
There's also motivation -- people may perceive it to be easier to get a job using PhotoShop than a job using GIMP (I am not saying whether it is true or not, but only that people may have this belief).
The hardest place to make changes is at the periphery of an organisation - the people who deal with other groups. For example, the person who receives AutoCAD files from external engineering companies, or the person who works with print firms and ad agencies who say "send me the Quark file and the PSDs for your images", or the external copy editor who says "send me the Microsoft Word file and I'll use Word's revision control to mark all the changes", there are a great many examples. You can't generally get outside organisations to change unless you are a major customer and they are a small firm, but when they are using high end CAD packages licensed at $30,000 per user (yes, that's a real figure) and they have spent, say, $150,000 on training in the past three years, they aren't about to change.
Instead, Novell needs to demonstrate that they have a viable platform for a lot of use cases, and it's clear today that for many people that this means running some existing commercial applications. And furthermore that it isn't only about features of those applications, or which is "better".
Liam
Re:Misguided Objections and Real Obstacles (Score:2)
If Novell want people - especially corporate users - to move to their Linux distribution instead of using MacOS or MS Windows, then yes, identify the things that are blocking them, and then identify alternatives.
Good point, but the alternatives aren't always alternatives. If I have a choice of having to put together an entire suite of alternatives which may not have everything I need, combined with retraining all my user base, versus using a highly functional single program that has an existing trained
Re:Misguided Objections and Real Obstacles (Score:2)
Thanks for replying,
Liam
the most desired are ones I never use (Score:4, Insightful)
The apps that the most people want are ones that I never use.
On linux I already have IBM WSAD, Eclipse, and the standard dev tools.
I've got Firefox (which I would use on windows if I used it)
I've got Evolution (there is no good Windows equivalent of this)
I've got GAIM so I can use all my IM's in one app
I'm not a graphics person, and I'm really surprised that there are that many of them (so much for photoshop). I don't really do design (so much for autocad) and I'm really surprised there are enough people paying that much money to rank the proggram that high in the survey (unless there are that many pirated versions). As for HTML, the text editor in WSAD or MyEclipse is excellent (everybody knows WYSIWYG editors are evil).
If these are the most desired apps for Linux, then I am very surprised that there aren't more people moving toward it. Seems the apps used 90% of the time by 90% of the population are Web/IM/email. Then again, for typical usage, the OS is really unimportant. Good Web/IM/email apps are available for just about every OS, and I'd bet most consumers probably don't care.
Re:the most desired are ones I never use (Score:2)
You must've somehow missed Outlook (the full version, not Express). Evolution has nothing on it.
Professional web designers also know they are necessary.
Re:the most desired are ones I never use (Score:3, Informative)
Evolution lacks layers of modal dialogs (try adding someone to an address book distribution list -- three or four modal dialogs deep in Outlook!), and doesn't get into cycles where it hangs and starts barfing up dialogs about "LDAP Server found more entries than could be returned for your list" as Outlook does. I have absolutely zero idea why people rave about Outlook.
That being said, I use mutt.
Re:the most desired are ones I never use (Score:2, Interesting)
At Sicirec [sicirec.org], we've used Outlook (Express) with LDAP in the past. Outlook didn't even support LDAP autocompletion. So, basically, all the users went on to add all contacts to their local address books. The kind of synchronisation problems this caused were pretty annoying. But, even when the users ignored autocompletion, performing an LDAP search still required struggling through three to four dialogs.
Admittedly, Mozilla (and now, since 1.5, Tunderbird) has its inperfections too; why can't you globally set t
Re:the most desired are ones I never use (Score:2)
Autodesk is one of the 5 largest software companies in the world. Tens of thousands of businesses rely utterly on hundreds of seats of AutoCAD in order to do their jobs. And pay extortionate fees (to Autodesk AND Microsoft) to do so.
So you have a potential huge cost savings, a way out of the upgrad
GIMP vs. Photoshop .. again? (Score:2, Insightful)
This article reminds me of another article [slashdot.org] which explained why professional Photoshop users don't want to switch to The GIMP.
Is the article a joke? (Score:3, Funny)
My opinion: (Score:5, Insightful)
Autocad: No substitute is available. Again, it's a case of all the commercial plugins... if they really make photoshop worthwhile, well, then they basically *ARE* autocad. They make all the difference. This is going to be a tough act to follow, and worse, there are 100 graphic artist wannabees in open source for every engineer wannabe. I'm not familiar with any of those suggested by the article, but I expect they are pretty much to Autocad what Gimp is to photoshop. No real substitutes available.
Dreamweaver: Nvu. It's pretty damn close. It could be Dreamweaver with not an incredible amount of work. But I hope that we don't do that. Mozilla/Firefox aren't just IE, they're better than it is. That's what Nvu should be, or some branch off of it (know it's Mozilla Composer at its core, but is it OSS or proprietary? I never really checked it out). The best part is, that it shares some heritage with Firefox and Thunderbird, and that means in theory, writing plugins for it should be possible. I think that could be really useful in an application like that.
iTunes: Didn't we just see an article about Songbird here recently? The screenshots look pretty slick. Again, based off of mozilla code, I think this could end up being a replacement, even if it isn't yet. Though nothing would ever satisfy the mac weenies, I suspect.
Flash: Inkscape. It's not there yet, animation isn't ready. They're actually trying to design the interface correctly, rather than just imitate all the other animation software we've seen over the years. Also, they do seem to sort of be waiting for software that can view it (for most purposes, this means browsers that support SVG/SMIL). This will probably be every bit as powerful as Flash... there will be those who disagree of course, but who wouldn't have laughed if you'd suggested that mozilla would be the superior of IE in the beginning?
Re:My opinion: (Score:5, Interesting)
Actually this is a bit of a myth in my experience. I send stuff to printers from Gimp fairly often and CMYK isn't an issue; they just convert it as part of their process.
What IS a killer is spot-colour usage. I have no decent method of working with Pantone or other specialised spot colours, nor is there a good system for handling product shots where a particular colour HAS to be represented correctly, such as a Coke can.
People forget that CMYK can represent less than half the contents of a Pantone swash; it is not the be-all and end-all of colour handling.
TWW
Re:My opinion: (Score:3, Insightful)
It is the be all and end all of color handling if you're targeting four color offset printing. And having your printer to the conversion is no substitute. CMYK can't represent all of RGB, and you want to know about the difference *before* you shell out for set up costs.
Professionals will never, ever, not even a little bit be able to use GIMP for print design until i
Re:My opinion: (Score:2)
Re:My opinion: (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:My opinion: (Score:4, Insightful)
Depends on the user. The GIMP probably isn't ready for most people doing graphic design, art book layout, and the like. However, the vast majority of Photoshop users barely touch its power. You've got people tweaking their family photos in Photoshop. They've never calibrated their monitor and printer. They aren't aware of the existance of the more suitable Photoshop Elements, and even if they were why would they buy it? They didn't pay for Photoshop, they're happily using their copyright infringing copy. They got Photoshop by borrowing the discs from work get having it installed by their geek friend. You've got people doing online work who will never need CMYK. You've got small town newspapers who've also never done calibration and rely on their reporters to prepare images for final output. (On the last one, I know such a reporter. She didn't like the GIMPs interface, but once she tried GIMPShop, she was perfectly happy. It does everything that Photoshop did for her.)
I suspect that for the majority of Photoshop users that the GIMP is a suitable replacement. It shouldn't even bug Adobe since most of those users didn't pay for Photoshop in the first place.
Rhythmbox? (Score:3, Informative)
I'm surprised that Rhythmbox [rhythmbox.org] didn't make the list of iTunes replacements. It looks like iTunes, it interacts with your iPod in a similar fashion, and it even supports DAAP. Other than the iTMS, it's almost a complete replacement.
-jagRe:Rhythmbox? (Score:2)
I still think Rythmbox has a long way to go before it can hold a candle to iTunes -- and I'm not talking about DRM functions, because I don't give a hummingbird's fart about iTMS, but just regular usability stuff -- but it certainly beats the hell out of their other suggestions.
A music jukebox is one thing where I think "the UNIX way" just isn't going to agree with most people. In most other circumstances I appreciate small tools that do their job well, but a jukebox is inherently a do-everything-an
No Viable Visio Alternative (Score:2)
And yes, I've tried Dia and all the other Linux diagramming tools. Not even close.
BTW, I like Visio better when it was an independent product. Now that Microsoft owns it, it's becoming bloatware like all
Re:No Viable Visio Alternative (Score:2)
Missing the point.... (Score:3, Insightful)
App X has to be (a) better in some way (to get people to switch) and (b) easy to use by people familiar with app Y (to stop them giving up after 5 minutes).
Video-editing (Score:2, Interesting)
Where have all the :%s/cowboys/applications/g gone (Score:2, Insightful)
The first thing this tells me is that the people who responded most to the survey were of average to below average competency in the world of *nix thus ch
They list LinuxCAD? They are stupid-heads! (Score:2)
I can't believe that LinuxCAD was even listed, that program is ten years out of date, and never was any good to begin with. I wasted my $99 on it around 1998 and AFAIK they haven't ever updated it since. They distribute a RPM built for RedHat 5 or something. It was maybe ok ten years ago, but it was never updated and I doubt it even works on modern Linux systems without a slew of compatibility libs.
QCad is my preferred 2D CAD program for Linux right now, and it wasn't even listed. Its nothing super fancy,
My showstoppers (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:My showstoppers (Score:2)
Only Web Developers Need Apply? (Score:2)
amaroK vs iTunes (Score:2, Interesting)
What does iTunes have to offer that amaroK doesn't match?
I'm assuming the online music store would be the biggest one, but what else?
XSI? (Score:2)
I don't know how exactly a $7000 3D modeling/animation/rendering package is a replacment for flash?
Mental ray (the renderer integrated into XSI) can't even output to SWF, or any vector format for that matter, except for postscript from its contour shaders, which are damn rarely used.
Novell has not thought about any of this stuff at all.
Re:Obligatory (Score:2, Insightful)
It works great for basic and intermediate graphics, anything above that it can be hit or miss. Especially if you are no familure with it. With Photoshop essentially the standard in graphical applications, having to relearn a program like GIMP just isn't worth it in
Re:Why? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Why? (Score:4, Insightful)
What about the cost of dealing with all the problems that Windows brings with it: viruses, worms, spyware, etc.? I know my (Fortune 100) company's IT department costs the company a fortune in not Windows licenses, but both license costs and personnel costs for dealing with all the security problems, and that doesn't count all the time wasted by normal employees due to having to do constant security updates (which means you can't use your computer, and have to reboot after every patch), and deal with the fallout from viruses and other malware.
I'll agree: the cost of Photoshop really isn't a big deal to a company paying $x0,000 for someone to use it. But the cost of Windows most certainly is. A smart company would probably have their employees use Photoshop on MacOSX instead.
Re:Why? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Legitimate animated works do exist (Score:2)
And who wants those annoying flash-images anyway
Try telling that to any fan of Homestar Runner, Weebl and Bob, or any other animated series distributed through the web.
Re:Legitimate animated works do exist (Score:2)
It Flash AUTHORING that is in question here. Do you author those things? If you do, stick with Windows.
Ratboy.
So you support the monopoly (Score:2)
It Flash AUTHORING that is in question here. Do you author those things? If you do, stick with Windows.
You appear not to want an alternative to Flash to exist. Why would you support such a monopoly? Why should an animator outside the United States have to import products from Microsoft, a United States corporation, and Adobe, a United States corporation, just to make an animation?
Re:So you support the monopoly (Score:2)
BTW, this should be filed under Yet Another Reason Why Developing on a Monopoly Platform is a Bad Idea in the Long Run, or Why Developers for Windows Are Suckers.
Re:Photoshop vs Gimp (Score:2, Funny)
Re:copy of TFA (Score:2)