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DARPA's 'Social Puppet'

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the not-your-parent-hand-puppets dept.

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Roland Piquepaille writes "Videogame creators are heavily using software to animate objects or characters without reprogramming them between two scenes. Now, game designers from the University of Southern California (USC) have developed 'Social Puppet,' a computer engine to 'help soldiers learn unfamiliar languages by interacting with animated characters.' For this project, financed by DARPA, the researchers have used their expertise in previous videogames used by the armed forces, such as 'Tactical Iraqi.' But previous games were focused on teaching language and customs while Social Puppet is giving on-screen characters human non-verbal communication behaviors."

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109 comments

werd up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752528)

werd up my homies

Re:werd up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752613)

werd

Suck it, moderator! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752931)

Like a moth to the flame...
 
I just wasted a modpoint, perhaps karma well-deserved elsewhere. I hate you, slashdot moderators [goatse.cx] .

True Enlawlment (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753180)

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Sheer enlawlment! Karma's awaistin'!

Morons! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14754593)

Here's for EVEN MORE wasted karma. You are lamer than balls!

More, faster, more, FASTER!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14755024)

Yeah, here's for yet another one..
 
You moderators are gay. LOL!

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752533)

Just another tool for the military? I can't honestly see the benefits of such a system... especially when soldiers can interact with the actual people in a different society.

Re:So... (-1, Troll)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752570)

There's more to "interacting" than killing, raping, and torturing. I say it's about time soldiers learn that.

From an x-soldier (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752584)

Go fuck yourself you ignorant whiny little shit.

Re:From an x-soldier (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752727)

It's the X part of x-soldier that makes me feel much safer.

Re:From an x-soldier (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752744)

Being a pussy-ass vegan, you'd probably be scared by a two year old with a toy gun.

Re:From an x-soldier (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752846)

Shouldn't you be out killing babies or something?

Re:From an x-soldier (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 8 years ago | (#14754436)


As an active AR "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe."

http://www.realca.co.uk/latest_violence.htm [realca.co.uk]

so fuck right off, your ignorance will keep you warm.

Re:From an x-soldier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753120)

This was exactly the place where a thought out, literate post could have helped change his and other readers preconceived notions of what soldiers actually do. Instead you tell the "whiny little shit" to "go fuck himself". Way to strengthen the stereotype dude.

Interacting with Iraqis (3, Insightful)

amightywind (691887) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752620)

There's more to "interacting" than killing, raping, and torturing. I say it's about time soldiers learn that.

Well, our soldiers also passed out soccer balls in an effort to win hearts and minds. But seriously, this program is a useful tool for training to counter islamist insurgent battle tactics: the use of women and children as human shields, the fake surrender, the roadside bomb, and sniping from mosques.

Re:So... (1)

Daengbo (523424) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752621)

Wow. What is in your past that causes you to have such hate for soldiers? Was your entire family killed by one? You should learn to differentiate between a single person, or even a group of people, who behaves badly and a whole class of individuals, otherwise you're one short step from anti-semitism, white supremacy, or any of the other hard-core racist ideals. That is, unless you were just flame-baiting, which I suspect you were.

Re:So... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752655)

Give up, he hates soldiers because he hates Bush. He hates Bush because he's been brainwashed to believe that everything capitalistic is evil, everyone who believes in right and wrong is horrible, and that stealing from the rich is right.

Re:So... (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752758)

Can't we just hate Bush for American foreign and domestic policy ?

We don't need any brainwashing.

You'll be trying to tell me next we live in a meritocracy where we can be what we want so long as we work hard enough!

Re:So... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753171)

Well, actually, I grew up in Appalachia, my dad was unemployed and my mom was a teacher. I'm now a commercial pilot. So yes, you cunt, I believe that if you quit crying about how other people cause your problems and do something, yes, you can get what you want if you work hard enough. However, people like you keep trying to prevent that. You keep telling us that "it's not our fault we're poor, it's because society has forgotten us" and "it's not your fault the mexicans have taken all your jobs; it's Bush's fault for his foreign policy". Crock of shit. You know why mexicans are taking jobs? It's because white people are too lazy to work, and black people are too lazy to work. Coal miners start at $15/hour and they're too lazy to work. I say let the spics in; they'll actually work and they don't put up with the union cronyism that's run out all of the jobs in the valley.

Re:So... (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 8 years ago | (#14754445)

funny, I don't remember saying any of those things.

Commercial pilot. wtg. so the fuck what. You're just a pressurised bus driver.

Re:So... (1, Insightful)

RiotXIX (230569) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752740)

You should learn to differentiate between a single person, or even a group of people, who behaves badly and a whole class of individuals

This comment isn't a personal attack on you (I don't know who you are or who you root for), but on a note it's ironic how it was a small group of terrorist bombing a few buildings that 'declared war' in the first place. I have a hard time believing a bunch of of people who defend their homeland while it's being invaded by foreign soldiers bombing the fck out of their women and children are now 'terrorist insurgents' because they are showing acts of violence towards Americans. If only the Government had taken your advice...

defend their homeland? (3, Insightful)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753009)

Defend it from what exactly? Do you realize that something like 800 civilians are killed every month by these "proud defenders of Iraq", while civilian casualties inflicted by US troops sit at a small fraction of that?

"To save the villiage, we had to burn the villiage" comes to mind.

The only ones defending their homeland are the ING and the IP. The "freedom fighters" we hear so much about aren't fighting to protect their homeland, they're fighting to protect a regressive culture and their own power over others.

Re:defend their homeland? (1)

flosofl (626809) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753296)

"To save the villiage, we had to burn the villiage" comes to mind.

Ah. Devotees of Che then.

Re:So... (1)

Jekler (626699) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752759)

A zing against military is a short step from anti-semitism and white supremacy? Taking a cheap shot at the lewd behavior of soldiers is not almost equivilant with a group that vows to violently murder entire races.

The military is setup as a chain of abuse. When soldiers finally get a captive or local, they feel like they have the right to abuse them, like finally they are the boss of someone. It's like the abused kid who kicks the family dog. I've yet to hear an ex-military man retell a story about kindness to locals, but they're never short on stories that involve abuse, humilation, and death.

Re:So... (1)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752921)

Perhaps you should take a look at this [operationgive.org] .

There are many more stories like it if you'd actually be willing to listen.

Re:So... (3, Informative)

c_forq (924234) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752944)

I've heard stories of handing out candy to Iraqi children... then getting shot. It happened to my cousins platoon. They also got a suicide bomber while handing out soccer balls (the soccer ball one was real sad, one soldier actively handing them out died along with about a dozen civilians just trying to get a soccer ball). One of my good friends just got back without an eardrum, and the only stories I've heard from him are of roadside bombings and snipers. He had a few stories of detaining some people, but nothing he described sounded like anything I would call torture or abuse. From the handful of people I know that have gone to Iraq I've heard of two cases I could call abuse, no murders of civilians (besides those hit by suicide bombers) and no torture (but I also don't know anyone working/has worked as a prison guard or anything like that).

Party on dudes! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752535)

Finally a training tool to understand people who are piss drunk.

slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752540)

So, this is where you losers go to talk about computers all day?

Totally incorrect (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752588)

we don't talk about computers all day.

DARPA no! (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752557)

Why is the company that is at the forefront of intelligent vehicles collaborating with the U.S. army!?

Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (4, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752574)

Why is the company that is at the forefront of intelligent vehicles collaborating with the U.S. army!?

Umm... the US Army [army.mil] is part of the Department of Defense [defenselink.mil] , and DARPA [darpa.mil] stands for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

Lucrative DARPA funding (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752747)

And another reason is that DARPA pays American universities a lot of money for quality research that helps Defense's goals.

Re:Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14754822)

*cough* Defence *cough*

Re:DARPA no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752623)

If that was a joke, it was horrible. If it wasn't, I'd like to supply you with information about sterilization [wikipedia.org] .

Re:DARPA no! (1)

nwbvt (768631) | more than 8 years ago | (#14754665)

I don't know, I thought it was pretty funny. "the company that is at the forefront of intelligent vehicles", hehe, thats great.

Re:DARPA no! (4, Funny)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752689)

If you think that is bad, I heard DARPA created a special computer network for the military too. I think it was designed to survive a nuclear attack. After reading this article and the one about the computer network, I've really come to dislike DARPA. If you ask me, DARPA should not waste their time working on such projects for the military. They should stick to peaceful things like autonomous vehicles capable of traveling over the desert alone.

Re:DARPA no! (1, Insightful)

slashdotmsiriv (922939) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752751)

If you think that is bad, I heard DARPA created a special computer network for the military too. I think it was designed to survive a nuclear attack. After reading this article and the one about the computer network, I've really come to dislike DARPA. If you ask me, DARPA should not waste their time working on such projects for the military. They should stick to peaceful things like autonomous vehicles capable of traveling over the desert alone. DARPA is a branch of the military. It's as if you are suggesting that the Pentagon stops dealing with war and stuff and start working on global warming... Please get a clue.

Re:DARPA no! (0)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752795)

"they should stick to peaceful things like autonomous vehicles capable of traveling over the desert alone."

should have tipped you off. I wonder where that particular tech will come in handy? ;)

Whoosh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753229)

Who modded this insightful?

Re:DARPA no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753485)

He was making a point of showing it was DARPA research that originally funded and produced the networks for what today is known as "The Internet.", which obviously the first poster had NO FUCKING CLUE of, and apparently you don't either, or you would have figured his comment out.

Re:DARPA no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753506)

DARPA isn't a branch of the military. It's an agency of the Department of Defense.

Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and DARPA?
umm, no

Re:DARPA no! (1)

DrSkwid (118965) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752752)

If only the Europeans had built [wikipedia.org] such [wikipedia.org] networks [wikipedia.org] we could join them all together and talk to each other [wikipedia.org] .

Oh well, we can but dream.

Re:DARPA no! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753647)

If only someone invented a way to INTER-connect all those NETworks.

Finally, a real use for... (4, Funny)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752573)

Finally, a real use for clippy!

"I noticed that you're having some problems with Farsi."

Re:Finally, a real use for... (4, Funny)

jonastullus (530101) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752589)

"i've noticed you're trying to calm a crowd of trigger happy extremists. would you like to use the "Middle East Crowd" wizard?"

Re:Finally, a real use for... (5, Funny)

Musteval (817324) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752717)

"i've noticed you're trying to calm a crowd of trigger happy extremists. would you like to use the "Middle East Crowd" wizard?"

...at an NRA meeting.

Re:Finally, a real use for... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752787)

I was about to accuse you of hateful stereotyping, but then I realized the target of your witty jab wasn't in the pantheon of protected leftist subgroups. Carry on, comrade!

crowd control on the keyboard (3, Interesting)

jonastullus (530101) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752575)

great, now soldiers will learn crowd control and interacting with other cultures in the isolation of a computer.

i don't want to be too cynical, and i'm sure this is an interesting approach, but i still would prefer soldiers to get this kind of cultural briefing in a less synthetical environment. like spending a few days with people from the target culture, or even better, spending a few days in a country where such a culture persists.

verbal and non-verbal communication when controlling a (possibly violent) situation is hard enough with people understanding each others signals. when cultures clash that haven't met before (for the participants) this can be aggravated to utmost misunderstandings.

at least, this kind of thing is given some thought, instead of sending people around the world (who've never gotten out of their hometown before) without prior cultural briefings.

Re:crowd control on the keyboard (2, Insightful)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752631)

still would prefer soldiers to get this kind of cultural briefing in a less synthetical environment

Especilly since software is usually either pathetically easy to manipulate or totally impossible to deal with. It doesn't have enough intelligence to act like a real human being.

It is hard to see how this software can help anybody interact with any real person.

Re:crowd control on the keyboard (3, Insightful)

Trelane (16124) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752695)

Especilly(sic) since software is usually either pathetically easy to manipulate or totally impossible to deal with.
If it's the latter, then software's already emulating reality.

[End Cynicism]

Re:crowd control on the keyboard (4, Insightful)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752683)

Great, now people will learn about:
  • fire without burning themselves
  • gills without growning them.
  • quantum theory without actually looking at atoms.
  • distant galaxies without actually going there.
  • flying planes without ever getting in one.
  • sex without having it.
  • foreign languages without leaving home.


Blah blah blah.. Simulations are always used when the subject matter is too dangerous, too expensive, or otherwise impractical for hands-on learning. You don't jump into a firefight to learn how to shoot. Describing and/or simulating those events is pretty much the same way we've been teaching for thousands of years. If you're thinking the process goes like this:

Drill Sergeant: "Ok recruit, sit down at that terminal and follow the instructions on screen."
[30 minutes later]
Johnny: "Ok, all done."
Drill Sergeant: "All done WHAT?"
Johnny: "All done, SIR!"
Drill Sergeant: "That's right! Now get on that plane and get your ass on the battlefield. You're a soldier now!"

You're sorely mistaken.

(He'd have to do way more pushups).

Re:crowd control on the keyboard (2, Funny)

Firehed (942385) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752967)

You don't jump into a firefight to learn how to shoot.

Someone's never played Counter-strike, obviously. Perfect combat sim - going with a bunch of people who can't shoot against a bunch of other people who can't shoot, half of whom are twelve. Honestly, if you took a flashbang in real combat, wouldn't you just let loose and hope to take them out before they can snipe you? The only difference is that you can't accuse your killer of hacking.

Re:crowd control on the keyboard (1)

Maven-X (890699) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752699)

The key here is the "non-verbal communication" which you wouldn'y normally get without actually being in the target environment.

Sounds like a valuable tool for educating the young soldiers whom I guess haven't had much contact with other cultures other than at the checkout of a Kwik-E Mart.

Re:crowd control on the keyboard (1)

Queer Boy (451309) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752749)

The point of this is to help people going to those countrties make fewer cultural faux pas, not as a replacement for human interaction. I think it's a great idea. I think I would have learned French faster with a system like this.

Re:crowd control on the keyboard (2, Funny)

TrappedByMyself (861094) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752822)

or even better, spending a few days in a country where such a culture persists.

"OK guys, things have gotten really bad in Cameroon. The Muslim minority has risen up and violently siezed control of the country. They are terrorizing the Christian natives and executing anyone who looks even remotly European or American. An ally is in trouble and the President wants this stopped."

"Sir, are we leaving immediately?"

"No, the operation starts in a few weeks. Since we'll be in deep into the country, we'll need to go though training on the local cultures. We need to know who our enemies are."

"This is a big operation sir, how will we train?"

"The Secretary of Defense has decided that the best way to prepare is for us to send our initial 100,000 troops on a two week vacation to Cameroon first. Oh, and since the country is on the coast, he said to make sure to bring your bathing suit."

Military intelligence (-1, Flamebait)

Dominic Burns (673810) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752615)

Is a contradiction in terms.

Any group using force to project its terms is a terrorist group.

Suicide bombers and guided munitions equate to the same thing.

Re:Military intelligence (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752642)

Suicide bombers and guided munitions equate to the same thing.

So true, but this will label you a terrorist lover and you're about to get modded "-1, Irrelevant".

Re:Military intelligence (1)

Achromus (810984) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752652)

Perhaps, but would you leave national defense in the hands of suicide bombers?

Re:Military intelligence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752728)

No... it's in better left in the hands of the politicians who are responsible for the civilians who have been killed in Iraq [iraqbodycount.org] in the name of freedom.

Re:Military intelligence (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753355)

If we fought like the terrorists do we'd see a bodycount that rivals the second World War.

Re:Military intelligence (1)

Jeremi (14640) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752910)

Perhaps, but would you leave national defense in the hands of suicide bombers?


I would prefer that the US spend its military resources on defending the nation (as opposed to invading and occupying other nations).

Re:Military intelligence (4, Insightful)

brit74 (831798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752713)

> Any group using force to project its terms is a terrorist group.

Indeed, that's why all World War 2 vets are actually terrorists. It doesn't matter if your enemy is the loathsome Nazis or headed by a self-proclaimed deity on earth (Imperial Japan) who invaded China and killed millions of Chinese. Imposing force is always terrorism. For that matter, when cops impose force on me after robbing a bank - they're terrorists. When will people learn that a big peace rally would've stopped the Nazis dead in their tracks?

Re:Military intelligence (1)

RiotXIX (230569) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752797)

er..only in every circustance you mentioned it's been an attempt to stop a group (nation's army) that was using force to impose their terms on another country's soil: no quite the same 11 or so people hijacking a passenger aircraft.

Re:Military intelligence (1)

brit74 (831798) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753514)

er..only in every circustance you mentioned it's been an attempt to stop a group (nation's army) that was using force to impose their terms on another country's soil: no quite the same 11 or so people hijacking a passenger aircraft.

The original quote, as written, makes no distiction at all between situations. It simply says, flat-out that: "any group using force to project its terms is a terrorist group". Certainly the Allies in World War 2 or any other conceivable war, no matter how just, fits that definition. At the very least, the original statement needs to be amended in some way. Maybe it needs the caveat "under certain circumstances, it's okay to use force when the other guy does it to you first" or something along those lines? I could come up with other exceptions to this rule. Thus, the simplistic statement, "Any group using force to project its terms is a terrorist group" is very obviously false when there are no qualifiers to that statement.

Re:Military intelligence (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752813)

Indeed, that's why all World War 2 vets are actually terrorists. It doesn't matter if your enemy is the loathsome Nazis or headed by a self-proclaimed deity on earth (Imperial Japan) who invaded China and killed millions of Chinese.

Sadly, many people [worldnetdaily.com] really do think this way.

Re:Military intelligence (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753752)

Sadly, no one else can see great altruistic deeds of the United States.

Re:Military intelligence (1)

pjt33 (739471) | more than 8 years ago | (#14754509)

For that matter, when cops impose force on me after robbing a bank - they're terrorists.
No, they're bank robbers. But I must say that it sounds like an unlikely scenario with a big non sequitur in the middle.

Re:Military intelligence (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752735)

American Military Doctrine

rule one if it moves shoot it
rule two if it dosnt move shoot it
rule three if in doubt follow rule one

Nice press release (3, Funny)

RiotXIX (230569) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752622)

The screen shots have pictures of soldiers being greeted by men in villas and asking for food in local stores. Are the scenarios where the iraqis tell the soldiers to get bent? It sounds like software that would better be suited to showing kids how to handle an exhange trip to Europe.

As cool as it sounds, I doubt it has more use than a phrase book, other than it's a bit easier for people who can't be bothered to learn. At least they can take the book to a warzone (or do all soldiers have a laptop?). Nice tech. demo though.

Re:Nice press release (1)

eMartin (210973) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752644)

There are. On the video page, you can see examples of bad and "very bad" outcomes.

In the bad one, I think the Iraqi misunderstands, and gives you directions to go somewhere, and then calls you a son of a bitch for not saying thank you when you leave, and in the very bad one, he accuses you of being CIA.

It's pretty funny actually.

Only partially useful. (1)

khasim (1285) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752912)

Because the soldier's interaction is all verbal.

That means that the soldier does not learn to moderate HIS non-verbal cues based upon the non-verbal cues of the other person.

Only partialy relevant (1)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752971)

Locals know to make allowances for foreigners. Think about it, if you're talking to a brand new immigrant who speaks english just well enough to get by, and has a horrible accent, are you going to care about his "non-verbal cues"? Or will you appreciate the fact that he's making an effort to communicate in your language, and listen primarily to his words instead of tone and body language?

Re:Only partialy relevant (2, Funny)

Eric S. Smith (162) | more than 8 years ago | (#14754935)

Locals know to make allowances for foreigners.

For instance, a 2000-pound Mk 84 bomb is just the way Donald Rumsfeld says, "I feel awkward." Offer him a tasty dolmeh.

Only one thing comes to mind.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752633)

Think of the possibilities! [beggingtodiffer.com]

/. Expansion Pack? (4, Funny)

DavidD_CA (750156) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752679)

> while Social Puppet is giving on-screen characters human non-verbal communication behaviors

Can they release an expansion pack for the /. crowd? You know, something that teaches us how to act in social situations like bars and parties?

And no, Leisure Suit Larry doesn't count.

C'mon, we're VERY social (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752832)

Think LAN-party!

Not a joke (1)

electrosoccertux (874415) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753477)

Thats actually a very good idea. Perhaps someone with some knowhow in this area could write out likely scenarios, with 5-7 different things to say, and an explanation of why you should say this one, or not that one. Then someone could code the frontend and we'd have a chance next Friday night!

Re:Not a joke (2, Funny)

mikiN (75494) | more than 8 years ago | (#14754008)

These have been around in Japan for ages, I believe many are (being) translated into Eng(l|r)ish. Just search for 'dating sim' on Google. Add 'hentai' to your search according to preference.

What a surprise (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752682)

ScuttleMonkey posting another Roland Piquepaille submission. What a surprise.

Alternate uses (2, Informative)

RiotXIX (230569) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752697)

I bet this was originally designed as dating software.

Social Puppet? (3, Funny)

wormnet.org (955561) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752711)

Good lord.

Two muppets walk into a bar. . .

I hate Roland Pipsqueak (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752739)

...almost as much as president shrub.

Good idea... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752756)

The software will help to avoid scenarios like this one:

"Hey, Jones... do you know what 'foq yeew ameh reekans' means in iraqi?"

So what you're saying is (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14752777)

They made an interactive version of Team America World Police? and they plan on using poorly made, yet hilarious, movie puppets to teach our soldiers to respond to Durkah durkah bak ka la ka dah mohammed jihad?

Tax money, investment (1)

msbsod (574856) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752863)

I would like to see my tax dollars spent on better schools and higher salaries for better teachers than on a software emulation of a social puppet. You cannot fix a person in the Armed Forces after some 18 years of neglect.

Re:Tax money, investment (2, Insightful)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752985)

You know, I wanted to make a post about how wrong you are....but ironically enough, the fact that you could beleive/say something like that is a good indication that more funding for education may not be such a bad idea.

Carry on.

I will not buy this record, it is scratched. (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752864)

I hope they also teach the language. Body language surely helps when communicating, and it keeps you from making offensive gestures while trying to calm an angry mob, but saying the wrong word at the wrong time... well, I'm sure you know the sketch I borrowed the subject from.

Just wait... (1, Flamebait)

wilburdg (178573) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752886)

It's only a matter of time before controversial pictures surface showing puppets being sexually humiliated, threatened with dogs, and beaten until their stuffing is hanging out.

they don't have arabic as a 2nd language??? (1)

gchesney0001 (667278) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752915)

Jeez, I thought it would be just like here where they fall all over themselves making free arabic classes available, pressing 2 on the phone to get english, giving special tests, etc.

I shot the simulation..oops... and the reality too (1)

tashammer (905647) | more than 8 years ago | (#14752965)

Well, computer simulations have been used for quite a while now for things like piloting aircraft, learning to sail supertankers, driving lessons etc and they appear to have runs on the board. My concerns involve the line between reality and simulation - like if you shoot, bash, kick someone on a computer screen or in VR then that's ok 'cos they are not real, but if you do the same sort of things in reality then the stuff will hit the fan. Training soldiers works on a very fundamental level so they react rather than philosophise or ponder multiple alternative options over a cup of coffee. If the soldier has been trained with what will always be a finite number of responses then what happens when the soldier is presented with something that didn't cross the programmers mind? Even if the programmers have been sourcing their information from experienced warriors and cultural experts the likelihood is that us humans, being what we are, will respond in other than textbook ways.

DARWARS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14753107)

The project is part of a larger Program at DARPA nicknamed DARWARS [darwars.com] that is building a series of game-based interactive training for the military.

DARWARS has been working with DoD contractors and game companies (and are interested in working with more game companies).

One of the games produced was BBN's Ambush! [bbn.com] . Several other games are listed in the http://www.dodgamecommunity.com/ [dodgamecommunity.com] web site funded by DARWARS.

An official description of the program can be found here [darpa.mil] .

The original program was to produce a MMORPG for training in a persistent continuous war, but it has become more of a repository of games for military training.

Nightclub Simulation (1)

tlynch001 (917597) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753132)

****START SIMULATION****

Puppet Girl: So, what's your name?

Well, in my guild it's 'IronFist', where I'm a nordic dwarf ha ha but really it's William although my mom still calls me 'Billy'....

****FAILURE****

****RESTART SIMULATION****

lame, very lame (1)

maxpublic (450413) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753292)

I'm thinking that they could've gotten better results for less money simply by hiring multilingual hookers to give their soldiers an "education" in language and cultural idiosyncracies prior to deployment. That's how the U.S. army has traditional done the job for the last century, although I admit it's usually been *after* the country in question has been occupied....

Max

Muppet Show (0, Flamebait)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753363)

I just watched DARPA's social puppet on TV last month, giving the State of the Union address to Congress.

Not using the trainee's gestures? (1)

88NoSoup4U88 (721233) | more than 8 years ago | (#14753888)

I think an even better/more useful application of this would be if the trainee's output of verbal gestures (captured, for instance, by motion capture-sensors/camera) was part of the simulation.

It would be good to see which gestures, which we might make without knowing, would accidently cause another culture to be offended.

Sockial Puppet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14754323)

Does this remind anyone of that 2DTV episode with Dubya and the sock puppet? You know...

General: So that explains how volatile the international situation is at the moment, sir.
Dubya: I see, general. Eeeeh...
General: You didn't understand a word of that, did you, Mr President?
Dubya: No I did not.
General: Would you like me to get Professor Liebstrom to explain it?
Dubya: I think that might help!
The General takes off his sock and puts it on his hand.
Professor Liebstrom: Yoohoo!
Dubya: Ha-ha-ha-ha! Professor Liebstrom!
Professor Liebstrom: Yeah. Mr. President... let me try to explain it this way...

The SIms 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14754446)

Iraq War Edition

Incomprehensible scenarios... (1)

Eric S. Smith (162) | more than 8 years ago | (#14754974)

The "Tactical Iraqi" demo videos [tacticallanguage.com] are delightfully incomprehensible.

  • The subtitles don't seem to match up with the voices, which sound like Donald Duck over a crappy cellular phone.
  • The conversation goes in random circles, with the friendly Iraqi repeatedly greeting the player.
  • It's impossible to tell what the goal of the conversation is, though eventually the soldiers get some directions.
  • The audio cuts out part-way through.
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