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Microsoft Vista Info Leaked

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the oops dept.

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slashnutt writes to tell us Yahoo News is reporting that Microsoft accidentally released information about Windows Vista earlier than originally planned. From the article: "Microsoft disclosed information about a plan to release eight different editions of the new operating system on a company help page that was under development. The company has not made any official statements about the different versions of Windows Vista it plans to offer. The company has since taken down the Web site and declined to confirm the information and said it will offer more details about the Vista launch, targeted for the second half of 2006, in the coming weeks. Microsoft spokesman said in a statement 'This page has since been removed as it was posted prematurely and was for testing purposes only.'"

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476 comments

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. (-1, Redundant)

Winckle (870180) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772403)

How accurate! :P

Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (5, Insightful)

American AC in Paris (230456) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772404)

Ugh. Eight different versions.

Windows Vista Starter (designed to combat piracy of Windows overseas; probably won't go on sale in US)
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Vista Home Premium
Windows Vista Business Basic
Windows Vista Business Premium
Windows Vista Corporate Basic
Windows Vista Corporate Premium
Windows Vista Ultimate

While I'd really like to believe otherwise, I cannot help but think that this will turn into a nightmare for application support. The ones that worry the most are the two at either end of the line: Starter and Ultimate. Will you need Ultimate to run top-of-the-line games or use top-of-the-line hardware? Will people with Starter not be able to use your program because they're missing certain functionality? Will you be able to burn DVDs with Home Basic, or does that functionality only come with Premium and Ultimate?

Sure, each version will be tailored to that particular end user's most likely needs. You can bet, however, that there'll be all sorts of "incentives" to bump yourself up to the next level of functionality in the form of "well, that functionality only comes with version X"...

Hey, its better than Linux (1, Insightful)

voxel (70407) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772436)

With its thousands and thousands of "versions" (distributions).

I'll take eight, over eight-thousand.

Re:Hey, its better than Linux (5, Insightful)

bogado (25959) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772493)

It's true, but none of those thousands of versions of linux are intentionaly crippled. Ops. No you cannot run a 'server' with this version or no you can not setup this or that without the premium version.

Sure, Linux is still strugling with the packaging since there is no standard. But it is getting better and better, everyday. :-D

Re:Hey, its better than Linux (5, Informative)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772706)

Actually, it isn't true. "Linux" is the kernel, which is now available in two versions: 2.4 and 2.6 (and all prior versions of course). There are many distributions, but they all use one of those two kernels.

What you talkin' about? (0, Troll)

temojen (678985) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772571)

There's only 2 current versions of Linux: 2.6 and 2.4 . And you can run any software on top of those that you choose, no one will dictate your use.

Re:Hey, its better than Linux (5, Informative)

Stephen Samuel (106962) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772582)

At least I can try most of the various versions of Linux without having to pay $400 a pop.

And, once I have a version I like. I don't have to fork out another $400 just because I decide to upgrade my motherboard.

And a lot of the so-called 4000 versions of Linux are specific versions that people have built for their preferred application. An example would be my netboot CD [bcgreen.com] that allows net-booting Knoppix from a CD -- which I designed so that I can give students in a classroom their own Linux box (without touching their hard drives), and also a way to do semi-automated backups and restore for public Windows boxes.
That's something that I (as a hobbyist) could never create with Windows (much less distribute).

Wrong Re:Hey, its better than Linux (1, Redundant)

denisbergeron (197036) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772604)

Only one Official Linux Kernel exist !

A lot of distribution exist !

But, exception of application, all version from a same vendor have all the same base !

Look at Mandriva Linux, you get get three versions of the last (2006) distribution, the only difference is the application that come with. You can run a Apache server on all of them !

Re:Wrong Re:Hey, its better than Linux (1)

assassinator42 (844848) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772689)

And only one official Windows kernel exists. So? And I believe you'll be able to run Apache on all versions of Vista as well. Possibly not Starter. And the main difference between the Windows versions is applications as well. Although, most are applications for controlling the OS.

Re:Wrong Re:Hey, its better than Linux (1)

denisbergeron (197036) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772727)

Ya, you can run Apache, but with only 2 clients :-) on every version of Windows NT (4, 4.5 and 4.51) except server where the number of client is unlimited !

On linux, you don't have this limitation !

On Linux you don't have less security feature because you run the starter distribution !

Did you try to block a printer from some user on Windows 4.51 home ?

Re:Hey, its better than Linux (1, Insightful)

aweraw (557447) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772661)

Microsoft is hoping they will be able to sell Windows to people twice.

here's the scenario:

Sally heads down to her local big chain computer store to purchase a new computer. She hands over a handful of money inreturn for a new box, with Windows Vista Home Basic Edition pre-installed. MS recieves a portion of her money via the MS tax.

She then heads home and proceeds to configure her new computer, but to her absolute dismay, she finds that she's unable to do everything that she was previously able to do (like burn CD's, or use DirectX applications) on her old Windowsw XP box. She calls MS support who gingerly inform her that "Oh, that functionality is only included in Windows Vista Ultimate Edition, which you can have for the low low price of $300". Sally has no choice but to pay for another copy of Windows, because the one that came with her new computer was not able to do everything she needed. Microsoft is happy because it has been able to extract 2 license fee's from Sally, without really having to do anything extra for her.

Actually, no... (2, Informative)

hummassa (157160) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772662)

All functionality is available or is installable with one command-line (even if it's "tar xzvf some.tgz; cd some-versin; make; sudo make install" in most (all?) linux distros; nobody is hiding anything nor making anything incompatible on purpose. So, no, the 2000 different linux distros will be actually less confusing than the eight Windows Vistas.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

rgigger (637061) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772441)

No kidding!

It's a good thing we don't have 8 entire different versions of Linux. Oh wait...

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

FireballX301 (766274) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772444)

Very, very true. The same reason why plenty of businesses at the moment are still running Windows 2k.

There's very little reason for businesses to 'upgrade' to Vista anytime soon, and for the home user they can always crack the 'ultimate' version. Deliberate feature locking is never going to benefit the end-customer anyhow, so they have little motivation to purchase a non-OEM copy of anything but 'Ultimate'.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

pthisis (27352) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772561)

Deliberate feature locking is never going to benefit the end-customer anyhow, so they have little motivation to purchase a non-OEM copy of anything but 'Ultimate'.

Money is a strong motivator, and presumably Ultimate is going to cost more than Premium.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (2, Insightful)

SoCalDissident (953017) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772567)

Very few people will probably crack any of the versions, and those are the people that probably won't pay for the basic version. You also assume that the feature are present and can be unlocked; more than likely they won't even be there in the cheaper versions.

I think part of the reason MS is doing this is so that people will feel like they have more "choices" and feel like they can get just what they need without all that "stuff only businesses need" and get the cheaper version of windows. Then they'll realize later they need to upgrade, and spend more on that than if they would've just bought the Uiltimate version to begin with.

And plenty of businesses will upgrade after MS stops supporting whatever they are running now, or when any new PCs they buy will come with OEM versions of Vista and they don't want to support multiple OSs accross the company...

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (2, Interesting)

C-Diddy (755183) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772457)

The cost of differentiating a product in this fashion are huge, both on the development side, and especially on the support side. I wonder if this isn't a bit of a mistake. I remember the situation Apple faced several years ago: A substantial number of product lines created huge costs. One of the first things that Jobs did was to slash the number of hardware products, thereby cutting out big chunks of fixed and support costs.

MS, however, does have some pretty good marketing folks, and software isn't hardware, so maybe they get economies of scale here in a way I can't think of at the moment (particularly as I'm sipping a martini at my desk).

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (2, Funny)

blhack (921171) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772458)

windows ultimate:

isn't this also know as xpde? [xpde.com]
it already leaked.

Sigh... (4, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772460)

Someday we'll look fondly upon the days when you could just ask if someone is running "98" or "XP," maybe with "SP2." Very soon the abbreviations alone will take up several alphabets.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (2, Interesting)

Rodness (168429) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772464)

What (quite possibly) actually happened is that they did intend eight versions, and the OEM manufacturers came back and said "eight? are you fucking nuts? we can't get people to intelligently choose between two choices (home and pro), and you want to offer eight?"

So now they're backpedaling (and probably consolidating) and trying to cover their asses... "Oops, our bad!"

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

FST777 (913657) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772466)

Included in those listed offerings was Windows Starter 2007, a stripped-down version for emerging markets to offer an alternative for pirated software.

Windows Vista Starter (designed to combat piracy of Windows overseas; probably won't go on sale in US)

yeah right... This is obviously targeted at Linux and other OS-OSses which are extremely popular in "emerging markets"...

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

nbert (785663) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772469)

But this would mean that everybody would just buy Starter/Basic and every serious (windows-run-)company would have the corporate premium.

What amuses me about this is that (in this scenario) only the pirates would possess copies of the Ultimate edition, because it's so l33t.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772552)

So that would be the Vista Arrrgh edition?
now really, what on earth could make the differences between versons?
1) we have the stripped version, crippled and sold "at cost" to hit APAC, ok
2) a home version that focuses on useability over capability, minor crippling to get power users to buy the bigger version.
3) the bigger version with all the bells and whistles.
4) the corp. version with all the bells and whistles + management and deployment tools.
That's it. I really can't think of any more versions...

Anyone smarter than me herecare to ellucidate?
-nB

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772497)

Yes, Eight different versions.

  • Windows Vista - Won't Install Home
  • Windows Vista - Reinstall Home
  • Windows Vista - Now with Patented DRM Feature Creep!
  • Windows Vista - Crash and Burnium
  • Windows Vista - Insecure Edition
  • Windows Vista - Spyware Edition
  • Windows Vista - Security Pro Required (includes Spyware and Insecurity Suite)
  • Windows Vista - Anti-Piracy Pro Edition (Can't be authorized on any PC, also most secure of all).

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

posterlogo (943853) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772511)

Those are not the correct 8 choices as far as I am aware. Where did you get your list from? The ones posted 2 days ago on Engadget are here:http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/19/which-wind ows-vista-will-you-run-you-have-8-choices/

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

springbox (853816) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772512)

While I'd really like to believe otherwise, I cannot help but think that this will turn into a nightmare for application support.

I wouldn't worry about that. They're all the same thing but with different features exposed to the user and included utilities.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (5, Informative)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772523)

Where did you get that list? According to Neowin's recent news, it's more like this [neowin.net] :
- Windows Starter 2007
- Windows Vista Home Basic
- Windows Vista Home Basic N
- Windows Vista Home Premium
- Windows Vista Business
- Windows Vista Business N
- Windows Vista Ultimate
- Windows Vista Enterprise

No Basic/Premium of Business, and there's no "Corporate" listed there.

Anyway, it's still 8. :-) And I agree it's too many. It confuses more than it clarifies. When Joe User gets to decide, is he a Basic or Premium home user? Do a company need a Business edition or an Enterprise edition? The problem seem to be that you need to study feature lists and compare to know for sure what you need. I'd rather see just a Home vs Pro vs Ultimate (being the Home + Pro merge). Three editions (or more if you count N editions which Microsoft must do).

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772535)

Wait, so people actually buy Windows now?

Seriously though I think what will happen is everyone techie enough to care will *cough* "get" Ultimate edition, kinda like WinXP Pro today. The only people I know who have XP Home/Media Center just kept whatever came with their PC and generally aren't computer savvy. If it can run an e-mail client, MS Word and "the Internet" they are happy. So I don't really see this becoming a big issue, but I definitely see how it could become one.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

ahecht (567934) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772601)

Umm, you do know that Media Center is XP Pro, right? It just has one additional pre-installed application.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

Lally Singh (3427) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772569)

Ugh. Why can't they use the model Mathematica and Matlab use, where you buy a cheap base product, and modular add-ons? The add-ons can be priced for each industry, and people feel like they're getting something real for the price difference.

Anyways, good point on the supportability issue. If it helps, I'm sure it'll be a nightmare for people inside MS too (e.g. enterprise support, sales team, etc.)

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

ahecht (567934) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772581)

I think you have the wrong list. According to the article, it is (with the XP equivalents in parenthesis):
  • Windows Starter 2007
  • Windows Vista Home Basic (Home)
  • Windows Vista Home Basic N (Home minus Windows Media Player)
  • Windows Vista Home Premium (Media Center Edition, but without XP Professional features)
  • Windows Vista Business (Professional)
  • Windows Vista Business N (Professional minus Windows Media Player)
  • Windows Vista Enterprise (Server)
  • Windows Vista Ultimate (Media Center Edition)

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772676)

so what's the point of stripping out media player?
I really don't get that one.
-nB

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772723)

Because Microsoft faught the law, and the law won. Sorta...

Symptom of a Mature Product (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772611)

The creation of multiple versions of the same product is a symptom of a product's maturation and the market's saturation. Consider the case of the Pentium II and derivatives. The Pentium II far exceeded what the market needed, and moreover, the market is saturated. How do you sell beyond your targetted market of personal computers (PCs) targetted for middle/upper-middle-income families? You do the easiest, most cost-effective solution. You gut part (in this case, the cache) of the Pentium II and create a damaged product, the Celeron. You maintain a lock on the original market but sell the damaged product to another market: PCs targetted for low-income families.

Similar reasoning applies to the Windows operating system (OS). The American market is already saturated with an over-featured Windows (i.e. Windows XP). Microsoft maintains a lock on this market by offering Windows Vista Home Premium. Microsoft then branches into alternative markets, like Uganda, by offering a gutted version: Windows Vista Starter 2007.

Frankly, I live in the USA, and I would prefer to buy the stripped-down version of Windows Vista. I do not need the "power" features of Windows Vista Home Premium. The gutted version is good enough for writing and submitting insightful and provocative articles to Slashdot.

If an online Ugandan store wants to sell me the gutted version of Windows Vista, I am ready and waiting with my Platnium American Express Card.

Actually just 6 (1)

JPriest (547211) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772618)

From here [engadget.com] , 2 are Windows Media Player free versions of other releases. Windows Starter 2007 (likely not for sale in us)
Windows Vista Home Basic (also in N)
Windows Vista Home Premium
Windows Vista Business (also in N)
Windows Vista Enterprise
Windows Vista Ultimate

In the US there should be just 5 versions, currently counting media center they have 3 versions of XP. I would have to see what they come with and how much they are charging for them before I decide if the extra 2 version are a good idea or not.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (1)

capecodcarl (955749) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772626)

Will people with Starter not be able to use your program because they're missing certain functionality? Will you be able to burn DVDs with Home Basic, or does that functionality only come with Premium and Ultimate?

Obviously the solution is to simply pirate the Windows Vista Ultimate volume license key version from work. :-)

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (2, Informative)

DogDude (805747) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772648)

While I'd really like to believe otherwise, I cannot help but think that this will turn into a nightmare for application support.

Why would you think that? Microsoft has the BEST support for multiple OS and backwards compatibility that I've ever seen in the entire software industry. The vast majority of current software designed for Win32 runs on any of their platforms from the past 10 years. Can you think of any vendor that has better cross-OS and backwards compatibility support? I certainly can't.

Re:Enough Choice To Choke A Horse (4, Funny)

smcdow (114828) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772711)

Oh....,

I was sure it was going to be something like:

Windows Vista 3.1
Windows Vista 95
Windows Vista 98
Windows Vista NT
Windows Vista CE
Windows Vista 2000
Windows Vista 2003
Windows Vista XP

What? (0, Troll)

la htris (955271) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772406)

What?
M$ screwed up? Not possible.
Maybe they were just desperate for some media hype, God knows they aren't getting much of it.

Dumbasses (0, Troll)

Nameles (122260) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772409)

Why'd they release anything?

FP

Re:Dumbasses (2, Funny)

rovingeyes (575063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772476)

Why'd they release anything?

FP

Uh..to get the first post?

YAllahoo (4, Funny)

GenKreton (884088) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772414)

Too bad Microsoft didn't put Allah on the page. Then Yahoo would be censoring this report too.

First Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772416)

And I'm anonymous, nobody can take credit HAH!

Which basically confirms... (1)

ZildjianKX (872002) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772418)

Which basically confirms the 8 versions. It's not like the web developer pulled them out of his bum.

Re:Which basically confirms... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772683)

You don't know that. When I used to develop databases, I would fill the test databases with dummy data. Sometimes it was complete nonsense utterly unrelated to the purpose of the database (and obviously incorrect--e.g., a customer list database could contain names of characters from a TV show). Sometimes, I would fill the test database with information that was my "best guess" as to what would be in the database. E.g., one may fill a products database with their best guess of what the names of the products are. That could easily be the case here. The web designer filled in dummy data to make sure the layout of the page is correct.

Re:Which basically confirms... (1)

Tuross (18533) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772712)

It's not like the web developer pulled them out of his bum

However, that would adequately explain why Windows is shit :)

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along. (0)

_Sharp'r_ (649297) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772419)

Of, course, when clicking on this story, the first thing I got was "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.", which is probably pretty similar to what MS has at that URL now.

At least there aren't 8 different versions of /. [slashdot.org] out there.

eight?! (1)

nbert (785663) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772425)

So does that mean that there will be 8 different versions? Or just 8 different help sections on the help page? I must admit that my mind somehow automatically checked when I read this if we are already at the beginning of April...

Re:eight?! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772572)

Well, how many versions of XP are there?

XP Home
XP Pro
Server 2003
XP "Lite" for Asia
XP Home without Media Player
XP Pro without Media Player
XP Media Edition

Not including SP2 and whatever.

Re:eight?! (1)

Mike Savior (802573) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772677)

That's a little different. Sure, the most basic Vista will probably be for emerging markets, but a few of those versions of XP are designed the way they are because of EU or something. AFAIC there's just two in the US: Home and Pro.

I know what it is. (5, Funny)

MutantHamster (816782) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772431)

There will be several different versions such as Windows Vista Red and Blue. They are all pretty much the same, but if you want to complete the game you'll need some friends with the other versions, and some link cables.

Re:I know what it is. (1)

Dragoonmac (929292) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772685)

Only by linking to the "Internet" and trading can you catch all 151 [aside]thousand[/aside] Viruses.

8? How about 16? Or 32? (-1, Troll)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772438)

How about a different version for every damned pc?

Microsoft needs to go away. F-them.

Re:8? How about 16? Or 32? (1)

krod77 (953703) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772465)

Microsoft needs to go away. F-them. Why "f-them", they are just trying to make more money, like every other business on this planet.

how about? (0, Flamebait)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772505)

How about kill them? That any better for you?

Re:8? How about 16? Or 32? (1)

hungrygrue (872970) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772539)

Oh, ok. It's all good as long as they were just trying to turn a profit. "That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard" "No, you don't understand - they want to make a buck" "Oh, I didn't know that.... in that case, it's fucking brilliant."

Flamebait? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772655)

This is /. Shouldn't he be mod'ed as +5 Insightful? Geese, the fucking MS schills are really getting powerful around here!

What next, Apple suxor!?!

The world is indeed cumming to an end! And I hope to be cumming when it does.

Re:8? How about 16? Or 32? (1)

fuckface (32611) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772715)

How about a different version for every damned pc?

I'm sure Gentoo will have something to say about stealing their business model.

Testing? (4, Insightful)

AJWM (19027) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772439)

'This page has since been removed as it was posted prematurely and was for testing purposes only.'"

Testing what, the waters?

Re:Testing? (1)

JonTurner (178845) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772653)

Testing the HR Department's ability to find a new webmaster.

premature release? (5, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772440)

I'm sorry to hear that Microsoft is the latest sufferer of this common problem. I'd like to help them out; I get a number of advertisements in my inbox each day offering various treatments for premature release. Perhaps someone can forward these emails to Microsoft?

Re:premature release? (2, Funny)

bogie (31020) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772481)

Hey! Remember how you were telling me about your small penis problem? Check it out!

V~/gr0
C!a1a5

8 ways to have your company locked in... (3, Funny)

Yaa 101 (664725) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772442)

From the MS spokesman: "We are known for giving our users choice, this is what's great about capitalism!"

Now, THAT is Funny, +1 (1)

hummassa (157160) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772681)

Or Insightful, +1 or Underrated, +1 -- if you with mod points want to give Yaa 101 a boost on his karma.

Can't resist.... (1)

In Fraudem Legis (937585) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772443)

I already imagine chairs flying around in Microsoft's dark office...:P

Bullshit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772447)

This is how the government in the UK operate, they float an idea in public to see what they can get away with, which be considerable. Microsoft did the same to generate publicity for Windows prisonOS.

Someones getting fired... (2, Interesting)

gwizah (236406) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772472)

Have they leaked which of these versions will run Halo 2?

Or will it be included as a pack in?

Re:Someones getting fired... (1)

ClamIAm (926466) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772640)

Well, since XP just isn't up to the task of running an original Xbox game, we can only assume the worst. Maybe they'll rename "Ultimate" the Halo 2 edition.

Old news (5, Informative)

posterlogo (943853) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772477)

This was revealed days ago in an Engadget entry that was much more informative:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/19/which-windows-v ista-will-you-run-you-have-8-choices/ [engadget.com]

"Windows Starter 2007 - Vista without Aero, probably meant for developing nations.

Windows Vista Home Basic - Basic Windows Vista for your single PC fam, doesn't sound like much going on here. Analagous to XP Home.

Windows Vista Home Basic N - European version of the same, but without Media Player (because of antitrust rulings against MS in the EU).

Windows Vista Home Premium - This is the one we're all probably gonna own. It's got Media Center functionality, Cable Card support, the whole home-media shebang.

Windows Vista Business - Think of it as XP Pro, but Vista.

Windows Vista Business N - Think of it as XP Pro, but Vista, but Euro.

Windows Vista Enterprise - Business version of Vista with numerous enterprise features, like Virtual PC, volume encryption, etc.

Windows Vista Ultimate - Love that name. This one does all of the above (and more); what else do you need to know? It's ultimate Windows.."

More choices are rarely a bad idea. I dislike bundled crapola that I'll never need or want.

Re:Old news (1)

Siguy (634325) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772524)

Thank you. This stuff has been posted and known about for a while. Readers of windows enthusiast sites like http://www.winsupersite.com/ [winsupersite.com] have known about these versions for a while.

Re:Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772529)

Everyone has known for a lot longer than that about the choices available. The news here is that it was accidentally leaked. You should read slashdot a bit more :)

Re:Old news (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772565)

More choices are rarely a bad idea. I dislike bundled crapola that I'll never need or want.

Yet you apparently use the crapola OS, where drivers regularly install badly written system tray cruft and every other app starts it's own license/copy protection service at boot. Way to go!

Re:Old news (1)

nagora (177841) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772597)

Which one comes with C, Fortran, C++, lisp, java, PHP, python and perl compilers/interpreters; pdf generator; typesetting software; office programs; image editing software; a database; webserver; cd/dvd ripper; support for by camera's raw mode; a good flight simulator; and a choice of four browsers as standard?

Oh! So, like, it must be free, yes?

TWW

Re:Old news (1)

temojen (678985) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772610)

Volume encryption is an enterprise feature? I thought it was just common sense (turned it on the first day I got my iBook).

Re:Old news (2, Insightful)

Atzanteol (99067) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772630)

This is a false choice though. Artificially created to give the illusion of choice.

You're just deciding on how crippled you want your OS to be. Choice would be asking the user at install "which of the following apps do you want installed?"

Re:Old news.... [It happened with Office.. ] (1)

JustASlashDotGuy (905444) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772692)


This isn't any big deal, other than it gives the slashdotters something else to exagerate and complain
about. MS Office was released in several different versions as well (Standard, Small Biz,
Professional, Premium,... student edition].


It's not a big deal. I'll tell now you know that although 8 versions of Windows are offered, only 2
version will primarily be sold. Homes will buy one version, while corporations and 'power users' may
buy another. I have no clue why they are offering so many versions this time, the only thing I can
think of is that it's worked well in the past so they are going to milk that cow again. No one is
forcing us to buy all 8 versions, it's simply an option. .... and sure that's not going to keep half
the posters on this board from complaining tho.

Here are the Eight Versions (2, Funny)

krbvroc1 (725200) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772514)

The info was pulled so I'll repost here:

Windows Vista for Developing Nations Windows Vista for Dummies Windows Vista for Planned Obsolence Edition Windows Vista for Virtual Vista Deployment Edition - Professional Windows Vista for your Inner Fast(tm) Edition Windows Vista with Digital Rights Management Media Edition Windows Vista Corporate *Windows Vista for Secure Computing * please note this edition will be released at a future unannounced date.

Re:Here are the Eight Versions - CORRECTION (1)

krbvroc1 (725200) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772556)

The info was pulled so I'll repost here:


Windows Vista for Developing Nations
Windows Vista for Dummies
Windows Vista for Planned Obsolence Edition
Windows Vista for Virtual Vista Deployment Edition - Professional
Windows Vista for your Inner Fast(tm) Edition
Windows Vista with Digital Rights Management Media Edition
Windows Vista Corporate
*Windows Vista for Secure Computing

* please note this edition will be released at a future unannounced date.

Too many vistas... (4, Funny)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772526)

I like the comment that was made on Blue's News [bluesnews.com] about the Vista line when the story first broke.

Vista DOS
Vista WFW
Vista 95
Vista 98
Vista ME
Vista XP
Vista la Vista

Rethinking? (1)

phorm (591458) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772527)

Perhaps it's more a case of bad feedback which resulting in them pulling a 180 on the whole 8 flavors idea?

bah (0, Redundant)

dirker (907397) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772528)

Who cares

Wups, they leaked again... (1)

j3one (949806) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772537)

I am amazed at the amount of times this sort of thing happens with Microsft. And I have to agree with some of the sentiment about how lame Vista is looking. You sort of wonder if one day we are all going to say, "Wow, this is actualy cool. Microsoft has managed to reinvent the wheel and advanced the whole world of technology..."

What? It could happen.

Dang (3, Funny)

Comatose51 (687974) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772545)

It's not even out yet and it's already leaking!?

Cheap shot even by Slashdot standards, I know.

Uhh, new? (0)

TheBlairMan (929930) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772557)

Uhh, I just did a school report on Vista; This was all on wikipedia last week.

Artificially Generate A Percieved Value (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772564)

Microsoft is creating multiple version so they can continue to, or try to, hold their OS prices at pre-Linux levels.

Much like someone selling a glass of water for $1.00 and a public well is discovered. So new 'products' are created of 1/2 and 1/3 full glasses that cost $0.50 and $0.33 respectively to try to generate a perceived value in the customers mind for the full price glass.

Will most likely work no better than developing countries version of their OS has been doing overseas. Kind of like the bartender at the start of Hitchhikers Guide asking if he should put a bag over his head when he learns the Vogons are about to destroy the Earth.

Well, the Linux fleet is hovering above Redmond and is ready to fire. This is Microsoft's version of the bag over the head.

Accident, my ass. (2, Interesting)

NaugaHunter (639364) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772575)

More like 'How can we see how people will react to this idea but maintain deniability if they hate it?' If it's liked, fine. If it isn't the story will be 'oh that was an old plan - here's what we're really doing.'

adsf (0, Offtopic)

TheDarkener (198348) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772598)

adsf

This will ultimately frustrate users... (2, Informative)

TheDarkener (198348) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772621)

1) Whoever pirates Windows won't bother pirating anything but the "Ultimate" version, whatever that will be.

2) Legit users will get frustrated when they find out feature X is not included in their version of Vista. They will want to know why and will become angry. This anger will soon make them want to change to something more simple.

3) Something more simple will eventually win the hearts of legit users.

4) Whoever pirates Windows will follow whatever is the most popular/compatible OS.

Re:This will ultimately frustrate users... (2, Insightful)

alphasubzero949 (945598) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772673)

4) Whoever pirates Windows will follow whatever is the most popular/compatible OS.

Just as all of the leechers out there wanted XP Pro, they're going to want Vista Ultimate Edition. Seriously, how many pirates do you know who really wanted XP Home on their boxes?

The real story ... (1)

ben_1432 (871549) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772602)

The real story is that, like with many MS products, there are different versions for different levels (and budgets) of users.

There's really only five versions, the other three are stripped down to comply with EU rulings or to (try to) thwart piracy.

I don't think those three versions should be thought of in the sense of the traditional home/pro/enterprise/whatever.

It won't work... (1)

JamieRees (956293) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772603)

I hate the idea of having 8 editions. For one, as already said, application support will be a nightmare. Also, all 8 editions aren't going to be widely used.

For those complaining about multiple options (1)

thewise1 (955170) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772620)

fedora, ubuntu, suse, debian, rhel, slackware.... the list goes on and on. There are many things to complain about with Microsoft software, but let's not be hypocritical.

Re:For those complaining about multiple options (1)

eosp (885380) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772650)

But they're all (for the most part) compatible, and programs like Alien [kitenet.net] and Checkinstall [asic-linux.com.mx] make it easier. The same functionality is basically in all of them. And most of them are free.

Re:For those complaining about multiple options (0, Troll)

Compholio (770966) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772691)

fedora, ubuntu, suse, debian, rhel, slackware.... the list goes on and on. There are many things to complain about with Microsoft software, but let's not be hypocritical.

All of them except slackware running Kernel 2.6 - which is the fully supported kernel of choice ATM, the only "version" if you will. Just because each one has a different pretty little theme doesn't mean that it's a different version.

Re:For those complaining about multiple options (1)

thewise1 (955170) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772710)

Just as Windows 2003 SRV/ADS/DTC, XP home, and XP pro run on the same core, I have little doubt that these versions of windows will do so as well. (I know because I used to work there, but don't crucify me! :) )

Internet Archive? (1)

RavenChild (854835) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772645)

I wonder if this is on the internet archive... If it is we need to watch out to make sure Micro$oft doesn't change history.

None of this matters anyway! (1)

bunbuntheminilop (935594) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772649)

Most of the windows fanboys are going to download a copy of Nemesis ANYWAY. Us Gentoo/Debian ites got rid of releases AGES ago!

What about 9th option? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14772652)

I'll go with the 9th option, Any thing BUT Vista!

Does it matter? (1)

bblboy54 (926265) | more than 8 years ago | (#14772678)

I mean, when we use FCKGW [wikipedia.org] to start entering the serial number, I'm sure it wont be the home edition we're using.
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