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Lapinator and Lapinator Plus, a Closer Look

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the don't-burn-out-the-hardware dept.

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Mofo writes "Virtual-Hideout has a great real world comparison between two laptop desks . Perfect for laptop users looking to cool off their lap. From the article 'However, with the massive popularity in recent years of laptop computers, along with the evolution of power (which creates heat) infused into them, the laptop accessory market is really getting huge. Laptop desks is one such accessory and are plentiful on the market, but very few are practical and even less are large enough to enjoy.'"

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Laptop desk at Target (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14778962)

I bought a laptop desk at target for $10. Works great with my laptop. Tell me again why I need a $$$ one?

It's just an advertisement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14778989)

disguised as an article.

Move along, VA Software is desperate for more revenue.

That's right, /. is run and owned by MBAs!

Re:It's just an advertisement (1)

menkhaura (103150) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780718)

That's right, /. is run and owned by MBAs!

Hey, no need to be so harsh to the poor editors! They may be stoopid and all, but... MBAs? C'mon!

To USA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779161)

We beat you 4-3 at hockey. Suck it bitches.

Fuck you

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re:Laptop desk at Target (1)

flyneye (84093) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779184)

I'm glad you asked that!

          Ordinary usage:no desktop
          Computer heats up,fries thighs,we all know this part.What we aren't thinking about is the flattus that builds up with people who spend more time in sitting positions and feeding on geek diet.The heat and wind from the fan enhance and spread the fart enabling public triangulation and identification
          Laptop desk usage: lapinator
          Flattus no longer has the extra spread or biologically intensifying heat but now has sounding board for fart and still no solution for social stigma.
          Fartulator 3000:laptop desk of the future
          Built in cooling fans not only aid in computing but cleverly blow foul trouser breezes far away to be blamed on someone else.Fans cover the noise too!
          Hey you get what you pay for! Whadda you want for nothin',rubber biscuit?

Re:Laptop desk at Target (1)

ePhil_One (634771) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780609)

I bought a laptop desk at target for $10

I got an old plywood cabinet door for $0. Its inpenetrable to heat, lots of work surface, very comfortable, etc.

I win.

Labinator? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14778970)

"The web server, it does nothing"

Dell (1)

dotpavan (829804) | more than 8 years ago | (#14778975)

.. my friend owns a Dell Inspiron 600M, and his laptop shaved his thighs. It has one of the worst ventilation/exhaust system, and he has to leave it upside down (when off) to cool it down. I did suggest keeping in freezer..

Re:Dell (1)

kilodelta (843627) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779239)

I've got a Dell XPS M140 (A juiced up Inspiron) that stays pretty cool on the bottom.

It uses the bottom for air intake for the CPU - and every minute or two you get this blast of hot air out of the back left of the computer.

One of my cats is a heat vampire. She's already figured out that sitting next to me is the warmest place in the house when I'm using my laptop.

LaptopDesk.net (1)

Heembo (916647) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779261)

I'm a personal huge fan of LaptopDesk.net. http://laptopdesk.net/desks.html [laptopdesk.net] . They're ultralight, fold up nice and fit into your laptop bag, they are cheap, totally resistant to everything - and I love the swivel pad that one of these come with so you can rotate your laptop. It's simple, it works.

Re:LaptopDesk.net (1)

mjc_w (192427) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780426)

I second the motion. I use their laptop disk folded up (with minimal angle) to keep my 12" G4 iBook comfortable on my lap. Works very nicely. It is also is handy on a table or desk.

Re:Dell (1)

stormlead (845978) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779523)

well, I own an Inspiron 600m, and have never had a problem with it getting hot- its pretty compact, but well engineered. The only part that gets warm on occasion is the lower left hand corner, which houses the hard drive (in newer 600ms, this is a 5400 rpm Toshiba drive, so that could explain the heating)

As someone else mentioned, the 600m pulls cool air in from below, and ejects it out the back, so unless you block off the vent, and then convert a DVD to Divx with it on your lap, then I can't see it getting too hot.

In my line of work, I end up taking laptops apart quite a lot, and the 600m is definitely one of the better machines out there, definitely one of the best Dells. Overall, Dells have mediocre quality, but the 600m is top notch.

Re:Dell (1)

Rodness (168429) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780423)

Maybe your friend's 600m is defective, because mine doesn't suffer from heat problems (and I compile code on it). If anything, this thing stays surprisingly cool most of the time.

Re:Dell (1)

m50d (797211) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780958)

I did suggest keeping in freezer..

That might not be such a bad idea. Remember the 486 overclocked to run half-life?

Re:Dell (1)

Jerf (17166) | more than 8 years ago | (#14781391)

I'm going to echo other's observations that your friend's laptop was likely defective. The 600M is, at least as of today, based on the Celeron M processor [dell.com], and that should actually run pretty cool.

I was somewhat amused by this article because I actually read it on an Inspiron 6000, running on a Pentium M, which I use as a true laptop (i.e., on my lap) for many hours a day. I run Gentoo on it, so I'm often compiling and such. I have no idea why anybody would need a "Lapinator" for this laptop; if I max out the CPU and burn a DVD and everything else all at the same time, it takes about an hour to get to "slightly uncomfortable".

Many, many other laptops get much warmer just idling, such as my POS Compaq Presario 600, than the Inspiron 6000 gets going flat out. No exaggeration, as I can handle the Inspiron going flat out, whereas the Presario on idle after half an hour has to get off my lap.

I definately recommend the 6000 to anyone interested in a cool laptop. (Although it's a pity they seem to have discontinued the 1650x1050 option; jeeze, people, won't somebody buy the higher resolution options? They're getting harder to find every month...)

Why? (-1, Redundant)

Eightyford (893696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14778984)

Isn't the whole point of laptops, to get away from the desk? Why would I want to sit at a desk when I can sit at my couch? If I need to do paperwork, I could use my kitchen table.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779076)

RTFA.

It's a pad that goes between you and the laptop, not a traditional desk.

Re:Why? (4, Interesting)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779106)

First, RTFA. These "laptop desks" are the same as old-school lap desks [google.com]: just a way to work away from a desk or table. What these do is keep that insane heat source away from your vijayjay or yoohoo.

To answer your first question: "to each their own". I have a PowerBook 'cause I like to use the same development machine at home, work, or at Panera's. I very seldom use it on my lap.

To answer your second question: to be able to reproduce later in life. Or maybe to not hinder the growth of leg hair. Or to prevent second-degree burns on your thighs.

Just cause it's called a "laptop" doesn't mean you have to use it on your lap. When people call 'em "notebooks" do you try to write on them with pens? Hey, I wardrive with mine... should I start calling it a "shotgun computer"?

Re:Why? (1)

Andrzej Sawicki (921100) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779260)

Just cause it's called a "laptop" doesn't mean you have to use it on your lap.
Well, not have to use it on a lap, that I give you. But being able to use it on a lap is definately a requirement from where I sit (currently considering buying one).

Re:Why? (1)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779344)

Well, if you must use it on your lap, you are the target market for one of these laptop desks. Remeber: laptops burn [google.com].

Re:Why? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779391)

Remeber: laptops burn

I don't get it. My iBook can get moderately warm, but just barely enough to notice. Why would anybody buy a laptop that achieved such dangerous temperatures? Seems like a design flaw.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779505)

Because some folks buy real laptops/notebooks and those get hot as opposed to the toy you own. Jeeze, you Apple Fanboys are annoying as all hell.

Re:Why? (2, Insightful)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779710)

Two things to think about:

First, I think that sustained "not quite uncomfortable" heat will, over the course of a few hours, produce a burn.

Second, there are design compromises in everything. "They" could have easilly added a couple of 80mm fans, or used slower, cooler-running chips. But I don't think the market is too keen on big or slow laptops. So you have to chose your tool carefully: if you want screaming, desktop-like performance from a computer that is 1/2" tall, understand that you are going to have a hot bottom surface and that you should strive to provide some kind of airflow over (err, under) that sufrace.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779622)

I have a vijayjay and a yoohoo, you insensitive clod!

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779618)

Can anyone speak English?!?!?! Laptop desks is one such accessory and are plentiful on the market, but very few are practical and even less are large enough to enjoy
Say it with me- It is fewer....
But the truth is, if the laptop desk had a smooth, lubricated hole on the bottom for my penis, I would buy one....

alternatives (5, Funny)

flyneye (84093) | more than 8 years ago | (#14778985)

cutting board :$1.98 Wal-Mart
spongebob or dora traveltable : $.98 clearance aisle Wal-mart
(includes groovy holders for stuff in legs)
tray stolen from retro drive-in restaurant:priceless

mod parent insightful, cut the consumer cr*p! (1)

fantomas (94850) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780167)

Exactly. Spend a couple of dollars on a cutting board or a piece of ply. Remember your physics primary school lessons and think about which materials insulate. How long before some clever company persuades schmucks that they are selling "custom real wood(TM) insulating laptop boards", i.e. varnished $2 dollar bread boards for $100. Doh!!!!

alternative #2, cool laptop (0)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#14781165)

You could simply buy a nice, old laptop that -=SHOCK=- works on your lap [ebay.com], such as the one I'm using right now. A 233MHz PII with 128 MB RAM and Debian Sarge is more than most people need for the usual browsing. They are small and don't burn the skin off your legs and lap. Just check the specs to make sure the video is at least 1024x768 16 bpp and you are good to go. Mine has 196 MB of ram and gets a little slow running Juk, but it's a great machine. Mepis, Sarge or Etch should set up in about 40 minutes. For less than $200, you won't lose much if things don't work out.

oh, come on. (5, Informative)

Triv (181010) | more than 8 years ago | (#14778991)

This isn't much of a 'comparison.' The linked article is comparing two different models of laptop desk from the same company and there's a big 'sponsored by lapinator.com' link at the top of the thing.

Next on slashdot: logitech mousepad showdown! 8x8 versus 10x10! Read on for the thrilling trials!

Puhlease.

Mod parent up (1)

Animats (122034) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779024)

Agreed. It's an infomercial. What next, articles about puff pieces for laptop bags?

If Slashdot must accept infomercials, could they at least get a more interesting class of advertiser?

And please, put "Advertisement" on the sponsored articles. Thanks.

Re:oh, come on. (1)

Romancer (19668) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779056)

At least they're not concluding from the review that it beats Linux for "certain server applications".

Re:oh, come on. (1)

this great guy (922511) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779256)

Next on slashdot: logitech mousepad showdown! 8x8 versus 10x10! Read on for the thrilling trials!

WOW I can't wait !

Re:oh, come on. (3, Insightful)

hotdiggitydawg (881316) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779859)

And its a pretty bad shill at that. From TFA (The F**** Advertisement):

  • Page 1: who the hell can navigate with their index finger on those little laptop squares?
  • Page 2: I use a trackball... it's driven by thumb power!
  • Half the first page is in light-grey italics, making it a pain in the ass to read, but that's OK because it's just a complete cut-and-paste from the product website anyway
  • We're nerds. Sorry, but Keeps your Laptop cooler and Comfortable and Stable just marketing fluff, not proper specs. Where are the heat transfer coefficients, independent third-party measurements, etc? I want to be able to make up my own mind whether this product really will stop high temperatures damaging my bollocks, and more importantly, my laptop...
  • While I'm at it how do you reconcile Thinsulate(TM) blocks 95% of laptop Heat! and Keeps your Laptop cooler? If it is blocking heat it is an insulator, thereby reducing heat dissipation through the bottom of the laptop. I suspect there's more than one load of bollocks under these laptops.


Sigh. Another Slashvertisement.

This has got to be a joke! (4, Funny)

endrue (927487) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779008)

Why is this news? It would be more interesting to read a comparison of my left and right hands.

Re:This has got to be a joke! (5, Funny)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779181)

From that article:

It was apparent from the outset that the right hand is slightly larger than the left hand; this size difference is likely a reaction to the right hand being used for more tasks. During key benchmarking (hand writting, manipulating can openers, masturbating) the right hand provided better results for longer durations than the left hand did.

You're right, that is more interesting that the laptop desk comparo.

Re:This has got to be a joke! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779957)

It would be more interesting to read a comparison of my left and right hands.

Looks like your big chance for that Purlitzer. Could be an event for the Slashdot Olympics.

It's been 36 minutes since you last successfully posted a comment

Your prejudiced attitude towards ACs is a bit extreme.

But do you want to be sterile? (2, Funny)

madnuke (948229) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779019)

Buy a Dell laptop, and enjoy your free sterilsation no more swimming around soldiers more like fried sperm from Dells mobile nuclear reactor. I swear you could melt metals with a dell notebook.

Re:But do you want to be sterile? (1)

dotpavan (829804) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779044)

I swear you could melt metals with a dell notebook.

Hey hey, atleast it keeps us warm in Alaska.. Thanks Dell, we love you.

Should it ever be on the lap anyway? (1)

ettlz (639203) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779063)

Aside from blocking ventilation grilles, etc., isn't the natural undulation of one's lap bad for the hard disc?

Re:Should it ever be on the lap anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779227)

Wow, you are truly an ubergeek. I usually don't use my computer while any part of me is undulating, let alone my lap.

Re:Should it ever be on the lap anyway? (2, Funny)

GungaDan (195739) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779690)

If lap undulation makes proper use of your computer troublesome, I humbly suggest you stick with pole dancing.

Re:Should it ever be on the lap anyway? (1)

ettlz (639203) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779913)

I humbly suggest you stick with pole dancing.

What, at 4200 rpm? I don't think so!

Re:Should it ever be on the lap anyway? (1)

juhaz (110830) | more than 8 years ago | (#14781102)

Aside from blocking ventilation grilles, etc., isn't the natural undulation of one's lap bad for the hard disc?

Oh for crying out loud, it's a LAPtop.

Unless you're riding a rollercoaster or flying a F-16, yes, a laptop hard drive can definitely take your undulating thighs.

Sanely designed device will also not have ventilation grilles in the bottom.

Any more? (1)

spazoidspam (708589) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779067)

I would like to know if there are any similar products to these 2 out there. I use my laptop on the couch all the time, and my solution was to use an artists Wooden palette to avoid going impotent from the heat. I honestly didnt know that these things existed. The wooden palatte sure beats having the laptop directly on my pants, but im sure somthing like this could do a much better job.

Lapinator alternatives (1)

bwcbwc (601780) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779695)

Considering how anything Laptop-related tends to be overpriced (kind of like USB cables sold at retail), here are some suggestions for alternatives. None of them are super portable, but for using on a couch, lounger or bed at home, they do the trick:
1) A "breakfast in bed" tray with swing out legs. If the laptop isn't too hot, the fold-in area for the legs will provide enough of an air pocket between your lap and the PC (though this may feel lumpy). If your laptop runs hotter, rest the tray on the arms of the chair or open the legs out to provide more distance from the heat source. Also tends to be large enough to accommodate widescreen laptops or a mouse pad.

2) A laptop writer's desk. Intended for writing (anyone remember paper?), they often have some kind of padding on the underside. Usually a little more portable than the breakfast tray, but you can get really fancy models with small drawers and other accessories that increase the bulk.

Re:Lapinator alternatives (1)

swv3752 (187722) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780471)

I have one of those writers lap desks. It is a solid wood top with a leather pillow to cushion your lap. It is wide enough to fit my 15.4" Dell and a mousepad. As my old notebook got hot enoughto start splitting the wood, I got a Targus mini cooler pad. It is just a little platic piece that lifts the notebook up a couple of inches so it can get better air flow. With the cooler pad the notebook CPU runs about 10-15 degrees F cooler.

Re:Lapinator alternatives (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14780717)

I have tried the writers desks and the pads made my legs just as hot, epecially in summer. So I ripped off the pad and just used the laminate top. It was stiff enough to support my stinkpad and my legs didn't get hot.

Fertility... (2, Informative)

dhj (110274) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779084)

Not that slashdotters need to worry about this, but there should be a fairly large demand for this type of accessory. Especially since this nice scary study came out:

http://news.com.com/Study+Laptop+heat+a+threat+to+ fertility/2100-1044_3-5485763.html [com.com]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd= Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1559108 7&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum [nih.gov]
http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/ 20/2/452 [oxfordjournals.org]

The study showed laptop use can significantly increase scrotal temperature. Previous studies have shown regular increased temperature can reduce sperm count for weeks or months.

I'm switching back to a desktop.

--David

Re:Fertility... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779155)

I have three kids and a wife who looks great. I'm relying on my laptop to help me out here...

Re:Fertility... (1)

PFI_Optix (936301) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779219)

I have a simple solution to this: a recliner.

I just sit in my recliner, kick my feet up, and push the laptop down so it's well away from the jewels. My knees get nice and toasty though.

Re:Fertility... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779526)

I just used that line last night actually...

"Do you have a condom?"

"No, but I've been working on my laptop all day"

Raw-dog Baby!!!

(well, that and the "you can't get pregnant if i put it there" line)

Re:Fertility... (1)

kchrist (938224) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780560)

To think, I could have saved all that money I spent on my vasectomy!

Well, the $15 deductable that my insurance company didn't cover, anyway.

Re:Fertility... (1)

EverLurking (595528) | more than 8 years ago | (#14781276)

In the spirit of pure sarcasm, I'd like to point out 2 things:

1) Don't you think that the fact that you're reading an ubergeek site like Slashdot sort of decreases your fertility more because of your geek factor than than your sperm count?

2) You're not at risk of getting that chick you met on line pregnant anyways 'cuz she's actually a DUDE, just like you... : )

Heh.

Laptop Lesson (2)

sedyn (880034) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779089)

Here is a simple lesson I've learned about laptop accessories:

Unless necessary, for whatever reason, the hassle of carrying, unpacking, repacking, etc. is not worth it. Something that is larger in 2 out of three dimensions of the laptop is especially cumbersome.

Now, I know there are people who own laptops but don't really use them outside of their homes. Those people might benefit from this (I use a TV tray or my desk at home).

Here's my advise to the comany, if you REALLY think there is a market for this, integrate the pillow as the case. That way there isn't an extra object to carry, then they can dual market it as a protective case (some people are really cautious about their laptops).

But what about the children? (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779130)

with the evolution of power (which creates heat) infused into them

And all this time people were wondering why they could never procreate. [macsimumnews.com]

Huh (1)

Mike1024 (184871) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779148)

I don't think much of a review that starts by copy-and-pasting the manufacturer's vague ad-speak like "Comfortable and Stable" "Use it anywhere!". Who the hell wants to read that? And for that matter, why are we looking at a "real world comparison" of a large and a small product from the same manufacturer? And why is the photo on the first page so unhelpful? It hardly comumunicates anything about what the product does at all. And the description doesn't help any. And if you read the article it basically says "I recommend the company that sent me these things for free".

Indeed, this article doth make me seethe with indignant rage.

How to mod log into a free, open source Lapinator! (3, Funny)

hikerhat (678157) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779194)

As a slashdot reading hacker, I have a limited income - my allowance from Mom. Thanks Mom! Lapinator looks like a great product. How many computer products have type B thinsulate in them? Not many! Sadly, I cannot afford my own Lapinator, the worlds greatest lap desk!. But I'm a hacker, so I figured out a sweet log mod (It's log! It's log! It's big, it's heavy, it's wood!) that lets you simulate your own Lapinator! Lapinator is the worlds greatest lap desk! Anyway, here's the mod:
  1. Put on the sun screen! you're leaving the basement, and going outside!
  2. Go outside. You should be able to find a log. In a park, or on your farm, or somewhere!
  3. Saw the log into planks. Be careful you don't cut off your quake hand! (Or whatever you use your hand for, LOL!!!!)
  4. Glue the planks together.
  5. Wait for the glue to dry.
  6. Wait for it....
  7. Laminate! (As an exercise for the reader, download a sweet pic of Natalie Portman and laminte it to the glued together planks for a sweet mod of the mod!)
  8. Go back inside (take your glued together laminated planks with you!)
  9. Put the glued together laminated planks on your lap, and then put your laptop on top of that.

There you have it. A sweet mod for those of you who can't afford a lapinator right now. Lapinator is the greatest lap desk ever made!

Re:How to mod log into a free, open source Lapinat (2, Funny)

HeroSandwich (920245) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779388)

WTF? Why would i use a log.. where the hell am I supposed to get a log from? You think log's grow on tree's boy?? People like you are the reason's we have the problems we have in the world today. VP's shooting people.. monkee's being our great grand daddy's.. I tell you.. the end is nigh my young friend. The time of judgement is at hand and you and your log lover's have been judged lacking! All hail Ceaser! Boh-YAA!

Re:How to mod log into a free, open source Lapinat (1)

ClockN (534637) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779696)

Hmmmm....I wonder if Amy Devers has this mod on her site.

A real simple design. (1)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#14781294)

Equipment: jigsaw and sandpaper.

Materials: foam house insulation, masonite (preferably the kind with white plastic used for bathroom walls) and liquid nails.

Cost of materials is 20 to 40 dollars depending on what and how much you buy.

Instructions: Rough cut desired shapes. Sandwich foam with two sheets of masonite and let dry. Cut and sand desired shape. Round edges and foam hiding trim are bonus features. The result will weigh a pound or two and have great stiffness and insulation properties.

Use: Put on legs and run computer.

Storage: beside couch.

Laptop desk? (3, Funny)

SeekerDarksteel (896422) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779196)

Bah, old hat. I prefer my desktop lap! Quite simple to get really.
1) Eat a bag of cheetos.
2) Repeat step 1 until your lap is large enough to comfortably support something the size of a desktop computer.
No need to worry about the expense or inferior performance of a laptop, with the added bonus that no matter where you go you can set it up without having to carry any extra addons!

No choice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779568)

Your fingers are too fat to use a laptop. To obtain a special typing wand, please mash the keyboard with your palm now.

216.170.86.184 IS AN IP DO SOMETHING LOL (-1, Offtopic)

genrader (563784) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779294)

LOL 216.170.86.184216.170.86.184216.170.86.184216.170. 86.184216.170.86.184

Re:216.170.86.184 IS AN IP DO SOMETHING LOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779439)

No it isnt

lameness

2 targus products (1)

Bauguss (62171) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779305)

I've tried 3 products and only 1 has accomplished the task of keeping the computer cool.

The first one was from laptopdesk [laptopdesk.net] It worked nice on an older laptop but didn't prevent my toshiba from over heating. I then bought this [targus.com] and it stopped my machine from overheating.

When my wife got a laptop I bought her this [targus.com] Was cool that it had a usb hub. However, the fans broke in 5 days.

So, I'm still using the simple one [targus.com] that reminds me of legos. Works great and no moving parts. the angle it puts the keyboard is also quite nice and you can change the height by removing some of the "lego" bricks in the elevation legs.

Re:2 targus products (1)

lgordon (103004) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779594)

Yeah, I tried those too. The problem with the powered ones is that they also drain your battery. Like I stated in another post, I have the Xpad. It's entirely passive, so it doesn't drain battery life. It's also pretty lightweight and fits in my case right next to my computer. They've got a good overview of the design of the thing on their web site. http://www.xpad4laptop.com/ [xpad4laptop.com] The only problem is that it's made for a standard size notebook, so if you have one of the ginormous things, it doesn't really fit well. Maybe they will make one for my new Alienware, wink wink.

Re:2 targus products (1)

secretasiandan (614112) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780127)

I've got the xpad too. The site is still a little cheesy, but the product is pretty good.

It does pretty well on the heat isolation, but what I like best is that my laptop's fan actually goes on less when I use the xpad. I would like to claim it extends my battery life, but I have no statistics about it to pull out of my arse.

How much... (1)

mcho (878145) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779336)

but very few are practical and even less are large enough to enjoy.

How much is a laptop-dance from the laptop-less dancer? That would be practical and enjoyable.

making copies (1)

revery (456516) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779359)

Diceman! Making copies! Writing reviews of the Lapinator and the Mousitizer. DiceMan-arino! trying out the laptops. cheking for heat-resistance. Laptop-a-ding-dong. Sham-a-lamma-Thinsulate-amma. Alright. good review.

Lapinator? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779372)

I got one of them there "Lapinators" at the titty bar down the street last week...$200 it cost me.

I have the Xpad (1)

lgordon (103004) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779425)

I did a lot of testing and the Xpad is the one that I bought. It's great. It really lets me use the thing on my lap. I actually got it a while back from the inventor at the Orange County Computer Show in Los Angeles, but they sell them directly on their web site at http://xpad4laptop.com/ [xpad4laptop.com]

Re:I have a Vantec LapCool (1)

jdjdac (703401) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779658)

I thought this topic went away months ago after all the buzz about sperm killing laptops ages ago. In any case I use a Vantec LapCool Notebook (from Newegg of course) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82 E16834999413 [newegg.com] with the added plus of 4port USB hub. Lightweight and slim, it is easy to haul around where ever you go. Actually I do use it at home all the time for playing WoW on my desktop as well as playing couch potato. Luckily I have no concerns about the penis scarring since I don't have those parts o.O

Xpad is still better (1)

lgordon (103004) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779715)

Xpad is still better since this one uses fans to cool the laptop, and fans take power. The Xpad is completely passive.

Xpad is the best (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14782090)

I did a bunch of research and the Xpad was cheap and worked wonders. I've even traveled with it, and barely noticed the extra bulk.

Bad design for vents (1)

adolfojp (730818) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779447)

My Gateway laptop has its air intakes in the bottom, causing ventilation problems when it is not placed on a hard surface. I wonder how hard it would have been to place them in the back.

Cheers,
Adolfo

Battery in, or out? (1)

rAiNsT0rm (877553) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779536)

The age old question I have been pondering with my new Toshiba laptop, when I'm at home using it plugged into mains power. Should I leave the battery in or take it out?

Take it out! (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779655)

Take it out!

You battery can handle low levels of overcharge pretty much forever. BUT, what batteries do not like is heat.

Running your computer off the wall will put it into full performance mode & it will generate more heat than if it was just using the battery.

Therefore, when you're running a laptop off the mains & intend to leave it that way for quite a while, you should remove the battery.

Re:Take it out! (1)

swv3752 (187722) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780543)

No, leave it in. The battery wil automatically drain even if not used. This adds to the total number of limited number of charging cycles. Leaving the battery out for months on end will also ruin the battery. Lastly, the battery functions as a large capacitor to stablize minor power spikes on AC mains.

Re:Take it out! (2, Funny)

Kent Recal (714863) | more than 8 years ago | (#14781278)

No, take it out and plug it back in every 30 minutes. Only that way you can get the worst from both worlds!

DMX says... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779537)

Can a haX0r get a lap desk!

Cutting board? (1)

Canonical AC (884705) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779851)

Ummm...I'm literally writing this on my cutting board...

Normally, I just put it on my coffee table, but since I'm sick at home, I have to type more, and this lets me sit upright on the couch, instead of hunching over the coffee table. My lap is slightly warm without the cutting board, but this lets me set it flat, which lets it breathe more...in either case, the fan never comes on, unless I am watching video.

Why doesn't the fan come on? Because I have it at it's lowest power setting...I'm just working, not doing anything that needs any power.

Here's a hint, if your lap is too warm, turn down it's power settings. Trust me, you don't need 2.8Ghz to surf the web.

Review indeed...at least they had the guts to put 'sponsered by' on their page...

Stop feature creep and get with the program (1)

Brunellus (875635) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779882)

Surely this should tell us that we should really be looking for better heat and power efficiency in *mobile* computers, rather than simply upping polygon counts in HalfLife or whatever....

Misleading title... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14779884)

"Lapinator" has nothing to do with creating rabbits; not even nice wooden rabbits for leaping out of.

*sniff*

We've hit rock bottom (1)

Belseth (835595) | more than 8 years ago | (#14779889)

....when a legless TV tray gets posted as news. All that was missing was the Ronco name brand.

Insulation? (1)

TurboStar (712836) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780036)

By keeping the heat off your legs with an insulator you are keeping the heat in your laptop. That doesn't sound good.

Next time just buy a laptop without teh suck. Mine was built with a full aluminum housing that sinks the heat fast and even. In fact, the only time the fan has ever turned on was when I tried to run WoW on it. I guess it takes both the GPU and CPU running full speed to kick in the fan.

My previous laptop was cheap plastic crap that burned my legs, ran the noisy fan doing simple things like web browsing, and crashed when speed stepping was on. The battery lasted half as long as my new laptop. After this nightmare, and realizing Linux was never going to run well on it, I gave in and paid a premium for a quality laptop.

Few vs Less (1)

Radak (126696) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780059)

Laptop desks is one such accessory and are plentiful on the market, but very few are practical and even less are large enough to enjoy.

You got it right the first time. What happened the second time?

Less is for uncountable quantities (less grain, less snow, etc.). Few is for countable quantities (few students, few grammar nazis, etc.). Fewer are large enough to enjoy.

Ran Design iLap (1)

SmittyTheBold (14066) | more than 8 years ago | (#14780238)

I absolutely love my iLap [raindesigninc.com] As the name might imply; it's designed more for Apple laptops, but it's great. It's all aluminum, which is great for conducting heat away from your portable, and it comes with nice pads that keep the computer at a comfortable distance and angle for typing and using the trackpad.

The one downside is the relative lack of portability - it's not the kind of thing you can fold up and put in your bag. I've taken it with me for extended trips where I could keep it in my luggage, but for a day trip or taking down to Starbucks it's not really a good option. Still, as I use my computer at home 99% of the time, but want to be able to use it on the couch, the iLap does the job extremely well.

I like Lapgenie XL for my 17" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14780759)

I am happy with the Lapgenie XL for my 17" Powerbook. I also have the original Lapgenie (smaller) which my wife uses for a smaller Thinkpad. I especially like the ease with which I can reconfigure it to use on the floor next to the TV when we want to hook one of the laptops up. In that case, we can pop it up to coffee table height, then later put it back to down to sitting on your lap height for on the couch.

Not up to standards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14782161)

I bought one of these (Lapinator Plus) about two months ago after reading a couple of online reviews, and I have been extremely disappointed. For the casual user they might work, but if you are going to do long term (hour +) work with one between you and your laptop the Lapinator is not much help.

I am working on moding my Lapinator to see if I can get acceptable performance from it. First, I cut the thing open and inserted a folded up space blanket and a layer of hot pan holder insulation(from fabric store)...result--not much improvement. Second, I pulled out the very flimsy cross supports and replaced them with solid wood pieces...result--some improvement. Seems that the key may be adequate space between my legs and the Lapinator/laptop. My next step will be to add additional space by securing a second set of solid wood supports to the underside of the Lapinator.

Lapinator (the company) needs to go back to the design phase and involve some real users to help them create a working product. What they are selling now is a joke.
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