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PS3s Online Services to Compete With XBox 360

CmdrTaco posted more than 7 years ago | from the big-surprise-here dept.

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wh0pper writes "Dubbed WA!PS3 Online, Sony plans to combat the Xbox 360's download service with their own service for the Playstation 3. Though this is only going to happen in Asian markets at first, this adds even more fuel to the fiery debate over whether the Playstation 3 will have a hard drive included with the system. The Playstation 3 will be able to download games to the console for gamers to play and Sony says it will be better than the Xbox 360's features."

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1st post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786821)

frist post

but will it be better than the xbox720? (0, Troll)

houle (790096) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786863)

that's FIRST post buddy... well the PS3 will be better in every way than the xbox360, but what sony should really be worried about is will it be better than the xbox720? at this rate it looks like by the time PS3 hits the market the xbox360 won't even be the competition

Re:but will it be better than the xbox720? (1)

wolff000 (447340) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787357)

"that's FIRST post buddy... well the PS3 will be better in every way than the xbox360, but what sony should really be worried about is will it be better than the xbox720? at this rate it looks like by the time PS3 hits the market the xbox360 won't even be the competition"

how do you know this one will be better? i'm no fan of ms or sony they both suck as far as i'm concerned. i do own both current consoles and the 360, will buy ps3 as soon as it gets here too. anyways since no one has been ablt lay their hands on one how do u personally know this on will be better than the 360? the only diff i see in the curretn boxes is one says sony and one says ms. they are both consoles with their pros and cons and equally lacking in graphics compared to high end pcs. then again why people compare consoles to pcs is beyond me since they don't directly compete and consoles aren't meant to replace the pc. back to the point all the fan boys on both sides need to calm down cause and again both suck. now all the fan boys can unite against me and stop screaming at each other. i like to think of myself as a peace maker:)

Name? (3, Funny)

TheBogie (941620) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786826)

WA!-T-F is with the name?

Re:Name? (1)

Pantero Blanco (792776) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786848)

Seriously...How are we supposed to pronounce "WA!PS3 Online"? Sony should fire whatever marketer came up with that.

That said, I hope the service is good enough to overcome it.

Re:Name? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786905)

It's an anti-Italian epithet! JA!PS3 Online, anyone?

Re:Name? (2, Funny)

decipher_saint (72686) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786965)

"Seriously...How are we supposed to pronounce "WA!PS3 Online"? Sony should fire whatever marketer came up with that."

WA-BANG-PSSS-THREE, it's as easy as Samir Nagheenanajar...

Re:Name? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786991)

I doubt it'll go over well in Italy.

If you don't get it, remove the "!" and say it out loud (the "3" is not part of the word). And remember, it would only be "whaps" if there was an "H".

Re:Name? (1)

BewireNomali (618969) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787012)

... from the same people who gave you the VAIO.

Re:Name? (1)

Isotopian (942850) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787185)

And don't forget VIIV.

Re:Name? (1)

masklinn (823351) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787044)

I guess you're supposed to shout "WAH, PS3 ONLINE !!1!ELEVEN" while thinking "NO WAI", and then someone from sony will come to you and answer "YA WAY!!!".

Re:Name? (1)

FiDooDa (23111) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787557)

Don't fire the person who came up with the idea. Fire the person that said "this is a great idea! i want to use it!"

Re:Name? (1)

b1t r0t (216468) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787104)

WA!-T-F is with the name?

Maybe they plan to be mostly targeting at WA!SP [wikipedia.org] customers?

I'm just waiting for the day when the inevitable immature kiddies on the service get called "WAPS".

Re:Name? (1)

Mr Pippin (659094) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787374)

Hmmm, maybe should have gone with "Ecky- ecky- ecky- ecky- pikang- zoop- boing- goodem- zoo- owli- zhiv Online."

I'm hyped! (5, Funny)

saboola (655522) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786830)

Anyone for an eight way match of Rootkit Wars on the PS3? Let me know and I will let my DRM PS3 get permission from your DRM PS3, only after Sony gives us both permission to play in the first place. Game on!

Re:I'm hyped! (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786871)

Anyone for an eight way match of Rootkit Wars on the PS3? Let me know and I will let my DRM PS3 get permission from your DRM PS3, only after Sony gives us both permission to play in the first place. Game on!

</topical humor>

Re:I'm hyped! PARENT NOT TROLL (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787159)

Anyone for an eight way match of Rootkit Wars

Whomever modded the parent as Troll -1 is a MORON -5.

DRM? (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787172)

I can't think of any way to make the "in Soviet Russia" joke work for this story.

Either way, you get clobbered with DRM.

So instead, I'll steal a joke from an earlier article:
In college, you owned a Sony. In Corporate America, SONY own YOU!

I don't feel too bad about stealing that joke though, the /.er who originally made it designed http://www.dixie-chicks.com/ [dixie-chicks.com] as his personal website.

Better (1)

110010001000 (697113) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786831)

Sony says it is going to be better? Well then, it must be true! After all they sure didn't overpromise on the PS2 with its Toy Story quality graphics.

Re:Better (0, Redundant)

Roj Blake (931541) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786961)

Of course it's true! Sony's nebulous, future release promises to be than a currently available product? OMFG, I never would have anticipated that. By the way I hear that the Infinium Labs Phantom Game Console will be even better than the PS3. I can't wait until it comes out...

teh fristpost! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786833)

Frist Post

Where's the beef? (0, Redundant)

WinnipegDragon (655456) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786836)

When the suammry on /. is almost as long as the linked article, is it really worth posting?

Re:Where's the beef? (0, Offtopic)

WinnipegDragon (655456) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786857)

Oh dear God. Did I really spell summary that badly?

Re:Where's the beef? (2, Funny)

Golias (176380) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786997)

The pceuliar thing is, I read your post just fine wthiout even ntoicing the miastke uintl you poientd it out.

Where's the real stuff? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786840)

I think I speak for a very large portion of the gamer base if I say :"Put up or shut up."

So far Sony has been able to provide people with.. promises. Nothing concrete and no I don't consider a few screenshots or videos here or there as believeable material as most of them have already been revealed to be pre-rendered material.

There's way too much hyping on both sides, yet only one party has so far been able to even deliver a reasonably working box to consumers.

Re:Where's the real stuff? (1)

shotgunefx (239460) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787073)

Have to agree with you there. I'm skipping the 360 (like I did the xbox), because

1. I don't like MS all that much
2. GTA5 will be exclusive on PS3, at least for awhile.

I'm not a PS fanboy, but you could say I'm pro PS, or more Anti-MS, whatever.. still these stupid bullshit vaporware press releases are annoying me. Show me something, or shut up until you're at least near where you need to be.

Re:Where's the real stuff? (1)

gutnor (872759) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787395)

Pro PS, ok.
Anti XBox, ok.

But Anti-MS here? In a war between Sony and Microsoft choosing one or the other looks more like choosing between being shot by a Beretta or a Smith & Wesson.

Re:Where's the real stuff? (1)

fitten (521191) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787495)

Yup... until the PS3 actually exists, it can do anything from play games to cure cancer to make a latte for me. It's easy to draw up a list of what you might do but it's a bit more to actually have it. Let me know when I can "have it".

Re:Where's the real stuff? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787525)

"I think I speak for a very large portion of teamxbox if I say :"Put up or shut up."'

Fixed that for you.

They went with WA!PS3 Online... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786842)

...because Babyguts!PS3 Online was already taken.

Other PS3 storage media. (1, Interesting)

GodBlessTexas (737029) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786843)

The PS3 is ditching memory cards for Sony's Memory Stick Pro Duo format (same as the PSP and newer Sony gear use), which hold up to 2GB of data right now. While that's not enough to hold a full traditional game, that is enough to hold mini-games and media content the likes of which are currently being seen on XBOX Live and happen to be very popular. While a HD is an option that I'd probably want, I like having the option of getting one in the size that fits my needs, and given the size of HD content, I'd expect I'd want a big one.

Re:Other PS3 storage media. (2, Interesting)

Metaphorically (841874) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786890)

So they're going from insanely high price per megabyte of storage to just ridiculously highly priced storage. I thought the PS3 was supposed to have a reader for other memory card formats as well. Wonder if they're going to only the memory stick option will support other media like that.

Re:Other PS3 storage media. (2, Insightful)

GodBlessTexas (737029) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787007)

Not exactly. I picked up a 1GB MS Pro Duo on sale for $45. You can pick up 2GB for around $100 shipped if you look. If the PS3 doesn't come with a HD, and I don't think it will to keep costs down so the $499, $45 for 1GB of storage space isn't a bad idea. Compared to $40 for 8MB of space on the PS2, it's a pretty significant price reduction.

Re:Other PS3 storage media. (2, Funny)

Rickler (894262) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787215)

Great idea, one 50 dollar game per every 125 dollar proprietary memory card. Oh the savings.

All Talk If You Ask Me (1, Redundant)

gasmonso (929871) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786850)

"Sony says it will be better than the Xbox 360's features."

Big surprise that Sony says that. Well it should be better since it's gonna be out over a year later than the 360.

http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]

Re:All Talk If You Ask Me (1, Informative)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786882)

No one cares about your website. Put it in your sig where it belongs.

Re:All Talk If You Ask Me (1, Flamebait)

maxpublic (450413) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787524)

No one cares about your website.

I liked it. I'd suggest you try to remember that the only person you speak for is yourself. Nobody voted you in as Grand Poobah.

Put it in your sig where it belongs.

He can put it wherever he pleases. Go be something less obnoxious, like a grammar nazi.

Max

Sony says PS3 will be better than 360 (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786851)

And in other news, Linux is better than MS, the DS is better than the PSP, and straights are better than gays.

Re:Sony says PS3 will be better than 360 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787064)

all except that last one... its all true.. *ponders at original comment*

Re:Sony says PS3 will be better than 360 (1)

AusG4 (651867) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787558)

'Truth' is in the eye of the beholder.

My Mac kicks your Linux in the scrotum, my PSP spanks your DS and I really have no opinion on the straight/gay issue... I personally prefer the ladies, but to each their own when it comes to getting off, I figure.

No HD in the US = foolish (3, Insightful)

stupidfoo (836212) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786858)

What's the most widely acclaimed feature of the Xbox 360 so far? Xbox Live Arcade and Marketplace (downloading demos).

There is no question that any next gen system needs to have some type of local mass storage. The only question is how big it needs to be. The 360's 20GB HD is already looking way too small.

Oh and Fight Night Round 3 kicks ass.

Re:No HD in the US = foolish (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787082)

"No HD in the US = foolish"

I am starting to think that the Dreamcast/Xbox niche of the console market aren't just unlucky for chosing the marketplace loser over and over again. It is becomming clear that you sad fucks are just fucking dumb.

What the fuck are you clowns going to do when Microsoft pulls the plug on the 360? Plauge the Net for years like the goddamn Amiga freaks? Mass suicide?

Re:No HD in the US = foolish (1)

BeoFebenna (916590) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787274)

No, man. If and until then, I'll just be playing my fucking xbox360. After that it'll fucking go in the pile with my N64, which I don't fucking play anymore. And then, I'll go pick up a PS3, if I can fucking afford it.

Re:No HD in the US = foolish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787391)

oh it's you, mr. dreamcast 360. hi again. just got another paycheck from sony? good times eh? anyway of course you know that you're part of sony's damage limitation exercise now. good luck with that. we have a sony console that developers (such as me) can see is broadly in the same league as the 360... better in some areas, worse in most. and coming out a year late. sony have dropped the ball big time on this one. game over, no continues. i laugh in your general direction. it must really, *really* suck to be you.

Re:No HD in the US = foolish (1)

PeeweeJD (623974) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787144)

I agree with the "too small" thing. I just got my 360 last week and I already have a good amount of stuff on it. The quake 4 demo is over a gig. The PGR3 demo and a bunch of others are > 600 megs. HD trailers are hundreds of megs. Plus the 4 or 5 Live Arcade games I have too (not sure of the size on those though.

I'm not pushing my HDD, but its by no means empty. And storage on the order of single digit gigabytes would not be enough IMO.

Of course all of this may just be a ploy to sell memory stcks.

Re:No HD in the US = foolish (1)

happyemoticon (543015) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787379)

There is no question that any next gen system needs to have some type of local mass storage. The only question is how big it needs to be. The 360's 20GB HD is already looking way too small.

Hard drives are so cheap nowadays I don't see why they don't bundle them with 250GB drives. Of course, it was very smart of them to have the hard drives be user-swappable in the 360, which makes upgrades in the future a very real possibility. If they're smart, they'll start letting people download full games soon. I had a friend in college with a modded Xbox, and the ability to swap games without physically getting up was such a great feature I'm surprised it's not standard. Plus, they'd get to cut the retailer and the wholesaler out of the equation entirely.

If I had to make a bet, though, I'd say Sony's never going to allow full game downloads because their music, movie, and consumer electronics companies depend on retail distribution, and these divisions have already proven themselves a dozen times over to be stupid, tightfisted, shortsighted, penny wise and pound foolish. Microsoft as a company makes most of its cash through OEM sales and is making a strong push into online content and applications. Who do you think is going to win the 'Live' wars: Microsoft, which owes allegiance to no one and is desparately trying to get into online content, or Sony, whose seven heads are constantly bickering and is conjoined at the hip to Best Buy and Walmart?

Re:No HD in the US = foolish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787420)

"Hard drives are so cheap nowadays I don't see why they don't bundle them with 250GB drives. "

Boggle.

I really can't believe there are just so many goddamn stupid people out there.

If you can't understand just how fucking stupid it is to include a harddrive in a console, and the myriad problems doing so creates, you have absolutely no business participating in a discussion on consoles.

humm yea (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786866)

"and Sony says it will be better than the Xbox 360's features"

you think... i don't think they would come out and say "we are going to add this thing but the 360 blows us out of the water.. hell we wish we had that feature set on this thing"

everything you do is better in your own eyes.. only others (and not the people you pay) can tell you if it really is

"Better than the Xbox 360!" (3, Insightful)

Sparks23 (412116) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786870)

...Sony says it will be better than the Xbox 360's features.

'cause no company, anywhere, has ever made claims like this as a matter of course. I mean, I'm sure Sony actually /will/ put together a good service; they have the know-how over in the Sony Online Entertainment division. But did that even really need to be quoted in the article? It's pretty much a given that Company A is going to say, when hyping their product, that it will be better than Company B's.

I mean, can you imagine Nintendo, for instance, coming out and going, "Yes! The Revolution is cool...! But the Xbox 360 is a better product." Even if it were true (and of course, the jury is still out on the competition to the 360), of course they wouldn't say it. ;)

Re:"Better than the Xbox 360!" (3, Insightful)

masklinn (823351) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787079)

I'm sure Sony actually /will/ put together a good service

I'm not, ever browsed a sony portal/website? You can hardly find worse pieces of crap.

they have the know-how over in the Sony Online Entertainment division

Yeah, the makers of SWG, the sinkers of Everquest, woohoo, that's something to look forward to, kind of like watching the titanic depart from england after knowing the end of the story.

Re:"Better than the Xbox 360!" (1)

Sparks23 (412116) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787115)

Well, true. I'd been assuming the service would be designed more by folks like Kutaragi's team (who I stand by my statement on them being some pretty sharp folks) than by, say, the Everquest team. :)

Re:"Better than the Xbox 360!" (1)

masklinn (823351) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787241)

Kutagari's more of a hardware guy, not a software/networking one. I kind of doubt he has the expertise with that kind of things, while the Sony Online Entertainment supposedly do.

Now, truth to be told, there is still hope... as long as the SOE guys don't start making games for the PS3 it may recover.

WASP Online! (1)

Sepodati (746220) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786874)

Is anyone else pronoucing that WASP online, also?

Submitter could have just included the next two sentences and left off the link entirely, too.

---John Holmes...

Re:WASP Online! (3, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786955)

Actually, if like me you pronounce it "Wops online" it sounds like an Internet-enabled reunion of my Italian-American family.

Goes something like this: (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786892)

Microsoft: "And then.. my system.. it's gonna have a harddrive.. and a..uh.. wireless controllers.. and it's HD compatible.. and I'm gonna make the, uh, Live even awesomer."

Sony: "Nuh uh! Your system is poop! Mine's gonna be awesomerer than your's! My system is gonna have, uh.. um..A ROUTER.. and uh, dual shock 3.. maybe I can squeeze in a harddrive.. nah, no harddrive. well, maybe.. And it's gonna play the Blu Rays! And, and, and it's gonna go online too! Only faster than your system! With prettier colors! And more funner games than what you've got! And I'm gonna call PS Web! It's gonna rock. So, nya!"

Microsoft: "Wow, that sounds pretty cool." Here's mine *shows an Xbox360 Premium*

Sony: "DOODY HEAD!!!"

somethin like that

meanwhile, Nintendo is playing quietly in the sandbox by itself making controllers in the sand and revolutionizing the way the other kids are playing on the playground they've been using for years.

Re:Goes something like this: (1)

Andrew Kismet (955764) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786982)

To quote another /.er, "Sony and Microsoft are fielding the greatest cavalry regiments known to the world. Nintendo is building a nuclear missile."

PS3s Online Services to Compete With XBox360 (-1, Redundant)

Kagura (843695) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786894)

Yeah, if it ever comes out, unfortunately.

Painfully Obvious (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786898)

How would Sony's online capabilities NOT compete against Xbox live? Hell, they're competing now, minus one hard drive!

Coming up next, dog to compete against cat. Yeah, we didn't see that coming at ALL. It was amazing. We can't wait to show you how it turned out.

3 things (1)

RiotXIX (230569) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786909)

1. Dupe [slashdot.org] : you made the list [slashdot.org] (or you would if I cared enough to add it).

2. It's not going to be as good as Revolution: I'd given up on consoles (I'm not spending over 60hrs walking around some rpg fantasy land, slowly) - but the revolution allowing me to download old snes games from my past sealed the deal.

3. I would like to pass my condolences to CowboyNeal (aka. da honk) for being shot yesterday at 2.47am while running his pimp service on the streets of Harlem, and wish his right arm a speedy recovery. I will avenge you, or die tryin'.

You seem confused (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786996)

This article, you see, touts that Sony's online service will be BETTER than Xbox's service. Entirely different content at hand here. We're talking orders of magnitude or something. It's crazy. Overlords will be introduced, (Soviet) Russia will do it backwards, profits will be made, DNF might play on it. We're talking a Stage 5 Clinger-type article here. Fresh, and ready for the fun!

Re:3 things (1)

VickiM (920888) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787199)

I think the real news here is that it is only going to be released in Asia to start with.
Also, the point is brought up that the PS3 doesn't even have a HDD announced yet. All this is majorly pointing to a tiered release like the 360 had. After all, if us non-Asian countries don't have access to the online action, what would we be doing with the hard drive?
And I think I recall reading something about developers or some other group wondering how Sony is planning on fiting everything into its little model box they showed last year. I think the HDD will be an optional add on, something you set up beside your PS3 and plug into it.
Was that how it worked with the 360?

Re:3 things (1)

fistfullast33l (819270) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787298)

2. the revolution allowing me to download old snes games from my past sealed the deal.

Okay enough about the old game downloads already. It's as much crap as those who keep their PSP's at firmware 1.0 so they can play hacked roms on the new hardware. As cool as that is, does it really make sense? I have a ton of old videogames that I never play even though I could and why would you even buy a $300+ device just so you can play 10 year old games on it? Not to mention the fact that Nintendo isn't going to let you play without paying so there's a whole other paying for the same content in multiple media argument. I mean, with the Revolution you can play new games as well, but will the old games be playable with their fancy remote control thingy?

Tiered model (1)

destruct85 (956209) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786911)

You know they'll end up with a tiered model just like the 360 did. That way they can advertise a lower price for the one model (appearing less expensive) yet still offer the premium bundle for those who want the hard drive. As for competing with Xbox Live, it had better be a damn good service. Ever since buying my Xbox I have been quite impressed with the workings of Live; even more so with the 360. There's not much I can really see being added in terms of features though. Personally, I'm quite happy with the Live features ad I'm not really sure there's anything I feel I need that I don't have. Price point may be a good way to beat Live (as Live is rather pricey), but with the projected price of the PS3, I somehow doubt that. Either way, it's great that they've made the move to an Xbox Live type system as opposed to the old system, and I look forward to trying it out. Guess E3 will be our first real look at it. On a random rant...the 360 hard drive though is somewhat of a rip-off anyway. I mean it comes pretty much half full out of the box. I saw somewhere that Microsoft may soon be offering the ability to buy full Xbox games off of the Live Marketplace. If this is true, you'll almost certainly need a bigger hard drive. You'll be bale to fit what...like 4 or 5 games on there before it's full? Sure a lot of people already have the games in original hard copy anyway, but if you're going to think like that why even launch such a service. Of course...it may be nothing but a rumour.

I would never have thought... (0, Redundant)

DorkusMasterus (931246) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786932)

"...Sony says it will be better than the Xbox 360's features." That's good! I thought they might have just said "it's gonna suck" or something... Whew!

I am tired of this sony hot air ... (1)

guysmilee (720583) | more than 7 years ago | (#14786963)

Whats next are they shipping every ps3 with a puppy ... ofcourse the puppy will be better than microsofts puppy ... lets see some product ... this garbage PR is just ... well garbage ... i can see an xbox 360 i can hold it ... i can love it ... i can play it ... well maybe in 2 weeks when its delivered ... but it's real dammit!

Re:I am tired of this sony hot air ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786999)

Go back to teamxbox faggot.

Re:I am tired of this sony hot air ... (1)

guysmilee (720583) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787339)

I've never dated a /.ter ... post your number and i'll call you tonight sugar.

Re:I am tired of this sony hot air ... (1)

OK PC (857190) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787302)

Whats next are they shipping every ps3 with a puppy ...

Sounds like Sony's answer to Nintendogs!

Apple/Nintendo - Microsoft Is Irrelevant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786969)

Sony is competing with Nintendo and Apple. Microsoft is a non-issue in the console market.

Nintendo is the gold standard for online play. Free and easy.

Apple is the gold standard for digital content. One click FTW.

Microsoft's online service is a mess. Players are forced to pay to play and the 360 versions of the pc games that make up the bulk of the Xbox library have much less max player counts than their pc counterparts, major lag problems, and the system software and games have major crash problems when playing.

It is unlikely Microsoft will let the 360 fiasco fester past the end of 2006. The days of throwing billions at marketplace losers is long gone.

Re:Apple/Nintendo - Microsoft Is Irrelevant (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787315)

*snore*

Re:Apple/Nintendo - Microsoft Is Irrelevant (1)

drewmca (611245) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787319)

I think we can recognize you by your writing at this point, which is making these tired posts of yours actually amusing.

I think Bill Gates is getting so disappointed with MS in general, let alone their "360 fiasco". Word is he's going to shoot himself in the nuts.

Please continue your sterling efforts.

And it will cure cancer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14786979)

and do dishes. I am so onboard with this. :)

What's up with /.? (1)

SuperSanta (843034) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787017)

I'm used to getting the regular overdose'ing of googlewhore'ing.
And since I'm a googlewhore, I readily enjoy and appreciate this.
But Sonywhore'ing? Don't like it, don't want it!

Slashdot is starting to suck just a little more every day.
When did it jump the shark?

Re:What's up with /.? (1)

Winterblink (575267) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787059)

Let me just open up another seal of the apocalypse by pointing out that the majority of comments on this story is bashing Sony for attempting to compete with a Microsoft product and service. Competition's good, right? :)

Re:What's up with /.? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787117)

Let me just open up another seal of the apocalypse by pointing out that the majority of comments on this story is bashing Sony for attempting to compete with a Microsoft product and service. Competition's good, right? :)

Actually the majority of the comments are bashing Sony for touting vapourware. Competition is good. Let's see some.

Re:What's up with /.? (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787222)

They have to keep pimping PS3 so all the obnoxious 360 fanboys will keep their ad views up by posting poorly punctuated comments.

Re:What's up with /.? (1)

DaveCBio (659840) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787267)

It's kind of sad when you see story dupes all the time on /. and yet I've never had a single submission ok'ed even though I though some were pretty damn relevant. I don't know the whole approval process, but it seems to me that it's highly flawed.

Re:What's up with /.? (1)

samureiser (903923) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787386)

I just had to give some props. It's been a while since I've heard someone use the phrase "jump the shark [wikipedia.org] ."

OT, but could be easy to implement (1)

bunbuntheminilop (935594) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787026)



Wouldn't it be cool to be able to play Ridge Racer (the original), save my fastest time to the emulated memory card, and post my time on a leaderboard? Or maybe time attack mode for Tekken 2 etc etc

*sigh* the current generation was so unfulfilling

Sony should be... (2, Interesting)

corellon13 (922091) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787045)

focusing on just making a great product. I think Xbox is winning this by keeping all the focus on them (free advertising/publicity).

I think what Sony needs to do is make a solid product and actually make sure they have a better game line up. One of the main reasons I switched from Gamecube to Xbox was because I was attracted by titles that I couldn't get on Gamecube. All that to say that I don't think that throwing a lot of hardware and technology is the way to go. Instead, software features and game titles are the great equalizer IMO. At the end of the day, I just want to play some great games and have them look and sound good.

Re:Sony should be... (1)

MScrip (944281) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787101)

I think Xbox is winning this by keeping all the focus on them...
I think XBox is winning by having their product on store shelves today... sort of...

Anyway, how can 2 products battle when one product is a myth?

Re:Sony should be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787156)

Uh, Dreamcast 360 'winning'???

The 360 is the biggest console fiasco ever and is the laughing stock of the console world. Their online service sucked so bad the first time they could only manage to get %8 of the tiny xbox demo to pay for it. And they have had to resort to giving away large portions of the service for free so they can claim larger numbers of people are using it with the 360. Pathetic overpriced lagfest.

"Anyway, how can 2 products battle when one product is a myth?"

Is there some secret forum on teamxbox that gives you retards the current xbox fanboy damage control meme? Sorry sport that myth is about three months away from making Microsoft its bitch.

Too bad for Sony... (0, Troll)

HerculesMO (693085) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787052)

Their development tools suck compared to the Xbox 360's. Too bad that development kit costs a lot more for studios to buy. Too bad studios aren't willing to relearn everything to develop for a platform that at best, will come out in 10 months. Too bad Sony has a nagging history of trying to force consumers to adopt 'their' solution (rootkit, Walkman ATRAC conversion, and now BluRay).

And too bad that all the PS3 will offer is another copy of Madden, NFL, NBA, etc games -- the same as the Xbox. And since the Xbox got released first.. we already know who won this round.

I'll just be waiting for Nintendo to make you know... games that are "fun". Something different than another year of Madden or another first person shooter with a catchy name, like "Black"! Wow... amazing thought processes.

Yup Sony, too bad that you put the business before the brains. You might still have had a shot, but now you will be playing catchup like Xbox did when PS2 was released. Entertaining to see the roles reverse. And between both Xbox and Playstation, only the Nintendo will prove to turn a profit -- as they usually do. Brains first, business usually works out.

Good god! (1)

JohnnyBigodes (609498) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787070)

Sony hypes something up! Sony says theirs is better! I'm shocked! Say it isn't true!

my _____ is better than your _______+1!!! (1)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787089)

"...Sony says it will be better than the Xbox 360's features" and my dad says he can beat up your dad :P it would be nice if instead of just simply saying that it will be better, that they say WHY and HOW it will be better. anything else is pure speculation.

In other news... (2, Insightful)

aardwolf64 (160070) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787094)

PS3s Online Services to Compete With XBox360

Well, duh! In other news, Coke to compete with Pepsi!!! Stay tuned to Slashdot where, after these brief messages from the OSDN ad network, we'll discuss how Gillette's next product will be competing with Schick! :-P

Dupe... (1)

mikelang (674146) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787110)

I would prefer Slashdot to show a interesting new content.
This one is just reiterating buzz-word [wikipedia.org] about vaporware [wikipedia.org] , that has been posted before [slashdot.org] .

Forget PS3 and Xbox 360 crapp (1)

sjonke (457707) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787135)

Get the Gaminator 5200. It will have better network even then puny PS3! You want polygons? Gaminator 5200's got way more than pathetic Xbox 360. Xbox 360? You make me laugh! So, don't waste money now on Xbox 360, nor put in pre-order for PS3 in 2007. Come 2008, you will be sick with any such purchase, vomiting up little bits of cheetos having wasted money on puny and pathetic system. Better to save for Gaminator 5200!

Here come to mod-downs (1)

The-Bus (138060) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787145)

This is the third non-story about the PS3 we've had in the past month (that I've seen). About every week, it seems there's a need to include an empty article about the 360 versus the PS3 just to start the same discussion over again. Sure, last week we called this service "HUB" [slashdot.org] and two weeks prior to that it was that"things could look bad for Microsoft's new system" [slashdot.org] eventhough no one had any ideas or facts abotu anything.

It's all a combination of Sony wanting to maintain the hype by sending out non-facts via their PR reps every week and bloggers and games newssites wanting to break a big story by being the first to "report" on something. The problem is there's nothing to report. Sure, opinion pieces and conjecture are nice, but only when they're well researched (for example, the cost of components for the PS3).

So not only is this latest article pointless, it offers even less (and contradictory) information than any of the reports or rumors from the past few weeks.

But I guess this is the way it will be until E3.

Whatever.... (1)

Zantetsuken (935350) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787223)

I am all for the PS3 and the capabilities it will have, but first off, wasnt there a /. article a week or 2 ago saying the PS3 online networking system was being called "HUB" or something to the effect?

2nd off, from what I've read (quite a bit, mind you...) no the PS3 is not going to have a hard-drive included, it's supposed to be a seperate add-on from what I understand... I think the download service the article refers to was supposed to put the games on BDs when you bought the content online through terminals in stores... but thats just what I understood from past articles, so I could always be wrong...

So... (1)

shoptroll (544006) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787242)

Can I download the source files for Toy Story 1 and render it in real time with this?

Pretty please?

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787291)

WTF to make yourself look like an idiot!

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-250632.html [com.com]

"One of the basic premises of the Xbox is to put the power in the hands of the artist," Blackley said, which is why Xbox developers "are achieving a level of visual detail you really get in 'Toy Story.'"

I can't believe you were stupid enough to try to pull that shit with your real login.

See it to beleive it (1)

DaveCBio (659840) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787249)

It's going to take quite a bit of effort for Sony to top Live. Not saying they can't, but Sony has a history of hype that doesn't always match actual product.

News? (1)

MarsDude (74832) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787265)

So... how is this news that one consolemaker is trying to compete with another consolemaker?

Or were people thinking they were trying to compete with a Whopper?

Or is the article trying to imply that the fact that they are going to have an online service hasn't been well known for ages?

Breaking News!!!! Sony Makes Lofty Claim!!!! (1)

ghost1911 (146095) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787285)

Yeah, we have some breaking news from the Sony vaporware dept!

Is it just me, or is this really old news? Sony has been promising this since GT4. Oh yeah, and it will work with the PSP too? *snicker* I'd like to see that. I really would. But I don't think that I will.

The WA! (1)

ghost1911 (146095) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787326)

Should stand for "Wicked Awesome!!!!" That would be the biscuit! (Apparently kids no longer say "the bomb"

Revolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 7 years ago | (#14787442)

With Revolution's devkits going for only $2k each, who cares what Sorny is up to?

and the first game to utilize this service (1)

aexiphixion (529171) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787518)

will be duke nukem forever..

hmm.. (1)

AzureWrathHal (949025) | more than 7 years ago | (#14787535)

Is this news? Or just an excuse to start a gigantic fanboy circle jerk?

It's not like sony is going to come out and say "Yeah, we'll have an online service....but it will suck!"
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