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Jupiter Gets New Red Spot

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the presents-for-planets dept.

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saskboy writes "The planet Jupiter is growing a new red spot. Jupiter is already well known for its Great Red Spot storm which is visible through modest backyard telescopes, so it will be interesting if this newer spot sticks around and grows. From the article: 'The official name of this storm is Oval BA, but Red Jr. might be better. It's about half the size of the famous Great Red Spot and almost exactly the same color. Oval BA first appeared in the year 2000 when three smaller spots collided and merged. A similar merger centuries ago may have created the original Great Red Spot, a storm twice as wide as our planet and at least 300 years old.'"

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Nothing new to astronomers (2, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848772)

So the huge pie-faced planet gets another zit... Maybe it should cut back on the Doritos and Mountain Dew.

Re:Nothing new to astronomers (2, Funny)

outsourced (902982) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849605)

must be global warming. those jupiterians should really stop driving SUVs and using aerosol cans.

Contagious ? (1)

Amonimous Coward (778781) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848777)

Are these red spots contagious ?

Re:Contagious ? (1)

coaxeus (911103) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848788)

I personaly blame the ter-rihsts. We should launch operation free the red spot from the ter-rihsts at once.

Re:Contagious ? (0, Troll)

hedge_death_shootout (681628) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849296)

Maybe *this* will persuade BU$HITLER and the NEOCONS that global warming isn't a myth!! goddamnit!!!!!1!!11!1!!111eleven!!!

Re:Contagious ? (0, Flamebait)

StevieZ (952883) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849648)

Yea, Bush liberated 50 million people, other then watch MTV, what have YOU done today?

Re:Contagious ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14850031)

Don't you mean 50 million barrels of oil?

Re:Contagious ? (1)

Millenniumman (924859) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849732)

Well, it does show that significant global warming occurs outside of human influence. It would more support the "NEOCONS" than prove them wrong.

Joke (1)

hedge_death_shootout (681628) | more than 8 years ago | (#14851145)

Post was joke.
Responded to post blaming terrorists with equally dumb idea.
Nevertheless, was modded troll.
Slashdot is so great.

(BTW: is it really evidence of global warming?!)

Re:Contagious ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14851128)

um... Have you never taken a science class before? For those of you tools that missed it in geology or earth science in middle and high school, we are coming out of an ice age. ie: the planet is still thawing. There is nothing we can do to this planet, short of building a bomb that will kill all human life, that can cause the planet to warm any faster than it already is. Global warming does exist, but not because of anything we have done or can do. It will stll thaw no matter what we do. It is the natural cycle of the planet. Too bad none of you paid attention in school. This liberal crap (no I'm not republican or of any political affiliation) is just that. CRAP. Grow up, learn to look at the FACTS and stop listening to the media and hollywood spin the facts into a farce.

Re:Contagious ? (1)

haydon4 (123439) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848818)

Are these red spots contagious?

No, these are common when gas giants go through puberty.

Re:Contagious ? (1)

Clueless Nick (883532) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849113)

No, you get them by kissing girls. Mars saw Jupiter do it, from behind the asteroid belt, and blushed.

Isn't that the line here today?

The Domino Theory Confirmed! (5, Funny)

Nova Express (100383) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848780)

First one communist spot appears. Now, 300 years later, another one! At this rate, all of Jupiter will be communist in less than 40,000 years.

It's up to us to rescue them. Thinking of the millions of innocent Jovians rotting away in their oppressive gaseous Gulags...

Re:The Domino Theory Confirmed! (1)

mtenhagen (450608) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848958)

No 30 years ago these where communist, now they are terrorist training camps.

There must a preemptive strike or they will surely destroy our civilization. Those alien terrorist just hate us because our planet is blue.

Re:The Domino Theory Confirmed! (1)

harrkev (623093) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849584)

WRONG!!! The great red spot is a giant hurricane ... and now there is a new one.

This proves that Bush don't like red planets.

Re:The Domino Theory Confirmed! (1)

Murdoc (210079) | more than 8 years ago | (#14851048)

I knew it, a classic case of "red shift". Tends to happen in those large, cold countries and planets. I bet one day they'll take over Mars (already the red planet), and then build a giant wall inside the asteroid belt too, to keep out people from the "blue planet". How long again before Jupiter completes another revolution?

GW (5, Funny)

addaon (41825) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848791)

Just try to deny global warming now, Republicans! We have proof!

Re:GW (2, Interesting)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848840)

I think before we panic we should all stop to realize that this is part of a continuous process of change where red spots are continuously created and destroyed on Jupiter all the time!
Oh well I suppose a spot will disappear next week ho hum no news here.

Re:GW (1)

jcr (53032) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848902)

I think before we panic we should all stop to realize that this is part of a continuous process of change where red spots are continuously created and destroyed on Jupiter all the time!

NO! No, it's not! There's been just one spot on Jupiter as long as anyone can remember, and this new one MUST be GWB's fault!

-jcr

Re:GW (1)

rspress (623984) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850184)

One thing the mars rovers have proved that mars is warming as well.

I like what Dennis Miller said about global warming. "I am supposed believe the temperature readings from a hundred years ago? Hell we were still crapping outdoors."

Re:GW (1)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | more than 8 years ago | (#14851114)

I like what Dennis Miller said about global warming. "I am supposed believe the temperature readings from a hundred years ago? Hell we were still crapping outdoors."

Dennis Miller says a lot of dumb things all the time, "people", but that has to be the dumbest Dennis Miller quote ever. Although I may be wrong since I missed his brief career on Monday night football.

...and just before the big date with Venus (4, Funny)

DoctorHibbert (610548) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848793)

It was funny in my head.

Re:...and just before the big date with Venus (2, Funny)

Clueless Nick (883532) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849085)

Jupiter doesn't go on dates. He just runs away with them. Ask Europa.

Re:...and just before the big date with Venus (1)

britneys 9th husband (741556) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849131)

So THAT'S why she dumped him for Mars.

I prefer to think of it as... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14849264)

...Jupiter finally growing a pair.

Same thing happened to me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14848795)

last time I pick up a $20 hooker.

A shot of Penicillin cleared it right up though.....

Is it ill? (2, Funny)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848799)

Is Jupiter too old to have a case of measles?

I'll be waiting... (3, Funny)

Biomechanical (829805) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848800)

...To hear that the red spot has started going black, and then I'll just sit and smile when all the hardcore rightwing religious nuts freak out at a second sun soon after. :)

A boy can dream...

Re:I'll be waiting... (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848863)

Four years to go. The Chinese haven't really started on their space station yet...

Re:I'll be waiting... (1)

i_should_be_working (720372) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848919)

Is a second sun some kind of harbringer of armageddon or something?

Re:I'll be waiting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14848922)

It's a reference to the movie/book, "2001"

Re:I'll be waiting... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14848977)

2010, actually...

Re:I'll be waiting... (1)

Biomechanical (829805) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849230)

Is a second sun some kind of harbringer of armageddon or something?

It was a vague reference to the movie 2010, the sequel to 2001, and a reference to the age old belief that is often trotted out by seriously die-hard christians that the sun and the sky and everything in it revolves around the earth, with absolutely no mention whatsoever of God creating, or intending to create, a second sun.

It was a spur of the moment joke which you, through probably no fault of your own, missed.

Re:I'll be waiting... (2, Funny)

sharkey (16670) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849801)

Nah, that just means that Mick and the boys have moved on to a new venue.

"I see a Red Spot and I want to paint it black..."

It's time for the Sun... (5, Funny)

brian0918 (638904) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848802)

It's time for the Sun to sit down and have the old birds/bees chat with Jupiter. The planet will start going through some big changes these next few millenia. The fraction of helium in the atmosphere will drop significantly. Its albedo will grow wildly. New rings will start appearing at odd angles. It's nothing to be ashamed of... all gas giants go through this phase of development.

Re:It's time for the Sun... (1)

Clueless Nick (883532) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849109)

Don't dream about interplanetary titties, Jupiter is male. At least in the legends, he is an alpha male, and perhaps he is growing up to the beta level.

Re:It's time for the Sun... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14849275)

CHANGELOG
-----------

Version 0.2 of Jupiter

- New red spot added .

Oh no! (3, Funny)

clockmaker (626182) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848819)

The monoliths [imdb.com] are multiplying!

Re:Oh no! (1)

Lucas.Langa (922843) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850868)

Wasn't it 2010 [imdb.com] ?

Global Warming? (3, Insightful)

mcrbids (148650) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848834)

I remember reading some time ago that they've discovered ice on Mars, and that the amount of ice at the poles shrinks every year, indicating global warming.

Now, Jupiter has this new storm that's beginning to rival the classic Red Spot. Is this more sign of a warming solar trend?

Re:Global Warming? (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848885)

Yeah. Obviously our sun is burning hotter than ever. That or it just remembered that it's heat has to go somewhere, and it's a lot easier to heat up a small planet than all of the universe, so it's sending it in our direction. We're just hoping that we'll have interstellar travel figured out before we get properly roasted, so we can go take over Mars or something, which should be nice and hospitable by then.

Re:Global Warming? (2, Insightful)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850973)

Actually, the sun IS burning hotter currently. AND we know that it varies in cycles. For instance, the 22 year sunspot cycle is one cycle of varying solar constant. Why assume that other cycles are not also superposed?

Re:Global Warming? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14849145)

Hmmm. Real Climate [realclimate.org] says no on Mars. (Real Climate is a website set up by actual climatologists to counter the lies spread by libertarians and republicans in the American media.)

Re:Global Warming? (2, Funny)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 8 years ago | (#14851082)

Now, Jupiter has this new storm that's beginning to rival the classic Red Spot. Is this more sign of a warming solar trend?

It's those two damn SUV's that NASA has running around Mars! Everyone who watches TV knows that SUV's are the only thing that can cause Global Warming! They are exporting our Global Warming to Mars!

Excellent (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14848843)

This is excellent, because the Great Red Spot has become less great and less red over recent years. When I first spotted it through a scope, it was a pretty impressive sight. Lately it has changed to become a less intense colour, leading some observers to give it names like "the Great Salmon Spot" or the "Great Brownish Smudge". It is also shrinking - being half the size it was 100 years ago.

The creation of new spots has been predicted (as part of the rapid "climate change" that has been affecting Jupiter over the past few years) and is all probably cyclical, but I was somehow excited by reading this news.

Re:Excellent (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850833)

This is excellent, because the Great Red Spot has become less great and less red over recent years.

Part of this is due to the fact that it is inside of darkish cloud bands, whereas in the 70's it was surrounded by mostly white clouds. Thus, it stands out less now.
         

big blue marble blackening (-1, Offtopic)

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Advice: (3, Funny)

Quaoar (614366) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848855)

I wouldn't hang out with Jupiter for a while...it's "that time" of the millennium, and its a little cranky...

Re:Advice: (1)

anagama (611277) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849133)

Jupiter is a dude, he doesn't get a "'that time' of the millenium".

Re:Advice: (4, Funny)

jrockway (229604) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849519)

True, but do you really want to hang out with a "gas giant"? I think not.

nothing to see here. (1)

bigmauler (905356) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848887)

These spots have been reclassified. Nothing to see here, move along.

my god... its full of stars (1)

qnxdude (520409) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848890)

perhaps its the merging of a few billion monolyths

Atmosphere probe? (4, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848893)

The article doesn't say much about what is causing these huge weather patterns to be so stable on Jupiter, and the reason is that we actually know very little about what goes on underneath the outer layers of cloud.

Our one and only atmosphere probe was a surprising success, but it was not built to last. A different probe, supported by a balloon rather than a parachute, was flown on venus and it worked well.

I think it is time to have another go at a jupiter atmosphere probe. This time try for a hot hydrogen balloon, heated by an RTG. If we don't do the basic research we will never understand the biggest planet in our solar system.

Re:Atmosphere probe? (1)

agent0range_ (472103) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848930)

We'll have to leave that to the europeans or the chinese, because unless it can be commercially exploited america just isn't interested anymore. I for one can't imagine anything more interesting than pushing the boundaries of our scientific knowledge, but alas I seem to be of a dying breed.

I think your idea is great, though. Getting there is the hard part, so we should send multiple probes. Also, multiple points of data collection will give us more information on what is going on.

Re:Atmosphere probe? (1)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849320)

How is the US "commercially exploiting" a trip to Pluto with New Horizons, then?

Re:Atmosphere probe? (1)

corrosive_nf (744601) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849365)

I also want to know how the US is "commercially exploiting" the two mars rovers which went 2 years past their intended length of time.

Re:Atmosphere probe? (0, Redundant)

jrockway (229604) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849543)

How? After we Americans finish crapping up this planet with Hummer exhaust and soda cans, we're going to need a new planet to destroy... erm... live on. (Mars is the closest, and it has a hard outer shell suitable for drilling oil, so it's a good candidate for Earth's replacement. Plus the atmosphere doesn't melt lead.)

Actually, I'm surprised the politicians didn't pick Jupiter -- it's the only thing in the solar system that's more "full of hot air" than them!

Re:Atmosphere probe? (1)

MotorMachineMercenar (124135) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849295)

I saw a documentary on chaos theory around the time James Gleick's book on the subject came out and this was something they addressed. These researches set two cylinders inside each other and poured colored liquid with particles in it between them. Then they rotated the other cylinder at different speeds. Quite surprisingly at some speed - which of course I can't remember - a steady spot appeared and travelled around, very much like what we see in Jupiter today.

This was yet another example how chaos sometimes begets (relative) order.

Re:Atmosphere probe? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849344)

Quite surprisingly at some speed - which of course I can't remember - a steady spot appeared and travelled around, very much like what we see in Jupiter today.

I wonder what happens [wikipedia.org] when you have more than one spot?

Sorry for the diversion, your description of the experiment reminded me of Sagan's machine.

Re:Atmosphere probe? (1)

amightywind (691887) | more than 8 years ago | (#14851070)

This [nasa.gov] is a decent summary.

I think it is time to have another go at a jupiter atmosphere probe. This time try for a hot hydrogen balloon, heated by an RTG. If we don't do the basic research we will never understand the biggest planet in our solar system.

Of all of the interesting phenomena in the outer solar system I'd say further investigation of Jupiter's atmosphere is down the list. Some missions of greater interest:

  • Neptune/Triton orbiter
  • Titan rover
  • Asteroid sample return
  • Europa orbiter/lander

I'm betting it is herpes (4, Funny)

SensitiveMale (155605) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848897)

After all, he is right next to that slut Saturn.

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (5, Informative)

republican gourd (879711) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848910)

Err... Saturn is his father.

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (1)

merikari (205531) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849178)

I still bet Uranus is in the mix somewhere.

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (1)

Pathetic Coward (33033) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850464)

Uranus is Saturn's father and Jupiter's grandfather.

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (1)

Nomad37 (582970) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849409)

That's disgusting. Also illegal.

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (1)

AndroidCat (229562) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849696)

And difficult since Jupiter cut off Saturn's thingy and tossed it into the sea. (Where it procreated Venus, who married Vulcan...)

Tune in next week to Survivor: Olympus and see who gets voted off the pantheon.

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (1)

Zaatxe (939368) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849775)

With all those rings? What a fag!

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (1)

sharkey (16670) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849789)

Hey, if you can't keep it in your pants, at least keep it in the family!

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (1)

dlelash (235648) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850961)

Yeah, it's Venus he needs to worry about.

[will not insert Uranus joke, will not, will not.....]

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14851032)

EVEN WORSE! ewwwww

Re:I'm betting it is herpes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14849661)

Has Tom Cruise been macking on Jupiter, too?

Obligatory Chicago comment (5, Funny)

gbobeck (926553) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848933)

"...a storm twice as wide as our planet and at least 300 years old."


Sounds like the typical Chicago winter...

Re:Obligatory Chicago comment (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14848959)

"twice as wide as our planet and at least 300 years old."

Sounds like a monster vagina. A really freaking old one, man. Probably all wrinkly and nasty, and full of dead children.

Um (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14848948)

The big red spot is actually the width of THREE Earth's.

But who's counting, right?

The monolith cometh! (1)

qualico (731143) | more than 8 years ago | (#14848972)

Now all we have to do is send a HAL 9000 over there to investigate.

Oval BA? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14849029)

That sounds like a form of indecent exposure. Surely the government needs to form a task force to cover the spot [usatoday.com] and keep the world safe for the children.

One question (1)

Schemat1c (464768) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849050)

The planet Jupiter is growing a new red spot.

Is it full of stars?

WOW!! (0, Redundant)

Clueless Nick (883532) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849073)

There seems to be a story in here.

Just another day at /.

clueless

hmm. (1)

ilmdba (84076) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849114)

yeah but is it shrinking?

Something wonderful is about to happen! (0, Offtopic)

altan (519377) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849149)

All These Worlds Are Yours Except Entropia. Attempt No Landing There.

A careless copy-paste from Google (1, Informative)

altan (519377) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849163)

It was supposed to be "All these worlds are yours except Europa. Attempt no landing there."

Re:A careless copy-paste from Google (1)

16777216 (919914) | more than 8 years ago | (#14851039)

How are these off topic they are from 2010. duh!

Heads down everybody! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14849175)

SNIPERS!!!
 
...filler for the bs detector...

no commet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14849243)

with out reading there dearly neaded ifo...
i prupore to handle this truely jovian ... purpeterator .. as a living breathing
entity. damn lucky he's around. so much for meteorites. most impreesive anyway.
looks like nukes storm on a 24/7 hour.
dman its ugly.
stones. we have stones. solid pyramid stones. u need a pyramid blocks
serious moving, at 1km/sec this is the place to look. sucky eh? nope.
one big being but not really ... ... ... f#ck wat ... in-control?
nope ... not fricking ... f#ck wat?
damn.
serious. mostly wat other pls would see. beacon here.

Eek! (1)

jiawen (693693) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849281)

I just watched 2010 tonight... Strange synergy.

Old? (1)

CCFreak2K (930973) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849380)

Oval BA first appeared in the year 2000 when three smaller spots collided and merged.

That would make this article six years late?

Re:Old? Not really. (3, Informative)

saskboy (600063) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849925)

That's what I thought until I noticed the story was from yesterday, and it was because the spot had only recently turned RED from white.

Ha ha! (1)

kars (100858) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849432)

*points*
Jupiter's got a hicky, Jupiter's got a hicky!

And... (2, Funny)

danwesnor (896499) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849655)

Meanwhile, back at home, Earth scientists are busy building plausible explanations as to how fossil fuel loving Republicans are behind this major environmental ship on our solar system's largest planet.

Re:And... (1)

danwesnor (896499) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849663)

Garrr!! Shift, not ship. Where's my caffeine...

Life on Jupiter? (2, Interesting)

BRUTICUS (325520) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849717)

I've always wondered why a planet like Jupiter couldn't harvest life. I mean, why couldn't another type of life with other needs arise. Why couldn't liquid hydrogen, helium or ice be a source of energy for another lifeform. Plants on earth don't need oxygen.

Re:Life on Jupiter? (3, Informative)

Antique Geekmeister (740220) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850049)

Raw hydrogen needs to react with something to generate energy. And react it does! You'll almost never find pure hydrogen available except in an environment where it's very hot and breaks down chemicals, or where there's nothing else to combine with (such as the Sun itself). Raw helium reacts with nothing: it's a noble gas, and you can't harvest energy from chemical interactions with it because there are so few that occur. Ice is cold water: the energy available from it was the result of hydrogen combining with oxygen, which released a lot of energy but makes it tough to get any more energy out of it now that it's already turned into water.

Now, there are levels of Jupiter's atmosphere where more complex and useful molecules are likely, due to pressure and lots of available components. Methane, for example, or other useful hydrocarbons that would have some energy to release and could be used for fuel in various interactions should be quite popular at some levels of that very deep atmosphere. And there are some fascinating proposals for how life could eveolve there. But please actually look them up, and maybe take a basic chemistry course to learn about what "using something for energy" means about the chemicals involved.

Hmmm... (0, Offtopic)

FusionDragon2099 (799857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849777)

An entire topic about a red spot and no Goatse jokes yet? Is this Slashdot?

How are you gentlemen? (1)

Zaatxe (939368) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849787)

All your red spots are belong to us.

hale-bopp (1)

boojumbadger (949542) | more than 8 years ago | (#14849791)

I always said it was an alien armada, now they are building a second ginormous space station. think how much power you could generate from windmills in the upper atmosphere !

The writing is on the wall (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14850052)

We tried to tell everyone, but they wouldn't listen! This is clearly due to global warming!

Oh, nevermind.

Why red? (1)

Drakin030 (949484) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850087)

Why red? Curiously, no one knows precisely why the Great Red Spot itself is red.
FROM THE BLOOD OF THOES WHO IT HAS SLAIN!!!!!

(origins by Moldovan playing in the background) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14850168)

I WELCOME OUR NEW JOVIAN MASTERS!!!!

repent monkey boys, your days of bloody cow bones are over!!!

My dog! It's full of rats! (1)

Lispy (136512) | more than 8 years ago | (#14850178)

A dyslexic journey.

It was one of Slackwares fortunes sometime last week. :)

All these worlds are yours (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14851133)

Except Europa. Attempt no landing there.
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