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.eu Domains to Go on Sale in a Month

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the domain-squatters-of-the-old-west dept.


conJunk writes "The BBC is running an article about the start of .eu TLD sales. From the article: 'The .eu domain was launched in December and opens to the public in four weeks. Trademark holders have had a 'sunrise period' since December to register their own trademarks... and all EU institutions will begin using the .eu domain in their web addresses from April next year.' Winners and Losers? Volkswagen scooped Ralph-Lauren for polo.eu by three and a half minutes." Update: 03/10 15:32 GMT by Z : Volvo != Volkswagen.

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darrr fp darrrr (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890701)

arrr fp harrrrr yeee harrrr

Volvo Polo (2, Informative)

defsdoor (737019) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890703)

Is that for the Volvo Polo then ? (perhaps you meant Volkswagen - the article seems to thing so)

Re:Volvo Polo (1)

kimba (12893) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890726)

Is that for the Volvo Polo then ? (perhaps you meant Volkswagen - the article seems to thing so)

Swedish car.. German car... Both start with a V and come form that Europe place, so close enough for the submitter!

Re:Volvo Polo (2, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890880)

Well, it's not entirely Swedish at this point. It blew my mind when Ford ran a commercial that stated that they were "using their Volvo brand to innovate in exciting new ways." I looked it up, and sure enough. Ford bought out Volvo [wikipedia.org] in 1999.

Re:Volvo Polo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890896)

Um buddy-
Did you know GM owns Saab? Did you know Ford owns Land Rover? And ford owns Jaguar? The list goes on forever. Seriously dude. Get a clue.

Re:Volvo Polo (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14891148)

BTW, it's SAAB, not Saab. Short for Svenska Aeroplan AB (Swedish Aeroplane Corp.).

Re:Volvo Polo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14892352)

Who wasted a point modding up this tripe?

Dibs on bl (5, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890708)

I should have sacre.bl.eu up shortly. Other subdomains will be available for low, low rates. Surprisingly, EURid says that it's actually still available...

frack.eu (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890801)

I've got faq.eu and frack.eu lined up in my sights. ;)

Re:Dibs on bl (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14891073)


Re:Dibs on bl (1)

donaldlatif (543636) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892308)

It's funny that Americans think that French people actually say "Sacre Bleu!" I lived in Montpellier, France last year with my girlfriend who taught English. She said "sacre bleu!" to a classroom full of 4th-graders, and they gave her the Big Blank Stare. After some polling of our French friends, we discovered that nobody, at least, nobody in Montpellier, had ever heard of that phrase. Except the Americans. They all thought it was pretty funny. So I hope the site is in English, because it probably won't get a lot of French visitors.

Re:Dibs on bl (1)

Grant_Watson (312705) | more than 8 years ago | (#14893984)

I read that it was kind of old-fashioned; it's a way of avoiding "sacre Dieu" or "holy God."

The French, having a rather different approach to God than they once did, probably don't mind saying the latter so much any more, if they even use *that* expression. (I don't speak French, so the previous sentance is just a wild guess-- but a pretty reasonable one.)

Time to grab... (2, Funny)

mustafap (452510) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890710)

All those french words end in eu.

Thats going to be a real Cadeau to some people.

Re:Time to grab... (1)

wild_berry (448019) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890752)

I doubt it's that great a gift -- parce-que le mot 'cadeau' ne termine pas par les lettres 'e' et 'u'.

Re:Time to grab... (1)

mustafap (452510) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890781)

Duh. Got a case of word blindness there :o(

Re:Time to grab... (1)

Eccles (932) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891285)

Yes, you want the African Union, not the European Union. Although African Unions are non-migratory.

You have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

Re:Time to grab... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14891022)

To Australians with love...

Re:Time to grab... (1)

caffeination (947825) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891027)

It'd be pretty good in Portuguese too - eu is Portuguese for I - but for the fact that it's hard to stick the word I on the end of a phrase. Some creative subdirectories mixed with a cleverly put subdomain might be able to create something cool though.

Re:Time to grab... (1)

dapyx (665882) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891256)

In Romanian, it means "I", too and it is possible to stick it at the end of a phrase, if you want to put an emphasis on that "I". :-)

Why would Volvo want polo? (1)

otis wildflower (4889) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890721)

Since Volkswagen manufactures and sells the Polo, not Volvo..

Oh wait, TFA is correct.

Not like I should talk tho, linklexic that I am...

(ps: mondi.eu dibs!!)

cheeseeatingsurrendermonkeys.eu (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890728)

The only important question remaining.

Is the only domain of interest to most american /. readers still available?

firstport.eu (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890729)

Already registered my firstpost.eu ;)

Dibs (-1)

w.p.richardson (218394) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890733)

On http://f*ck.eu [fck.eu] .

Re:Dibs (4, Funny)

zoney_ie (740061) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890849)

Well, French Connection will probably *actually* register http://fcuk.eu/ [fcuk.eu]

Re:Dibs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14892130)

They've actually applied for it. Check at whois.eu yourself.

organisation? (4, Interesting)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890734)

Will everything be straight under .eu, or will there be some notion of categorisation, such as .com.eu, .edu.eu, .gov.eu, etc?

Re:organisation? (1)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890790)

Given the polo.eu example in TFBlurb, I don't think we'll see categorisation. Pity, really.

Re:organisation? (2, Interesting)

timster (32400) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890886)

I find the categorization in DNS to be about as useful as the "Subject" header on emails I send to my mom.

It's just not possible on today's Internet to meaningfully separate domains into a handful of arbitrary categories. Useful organization will require a new system; for most people, that system is Google.

Re:organisation? (3, Interesting)

Conanymous Award (597667) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891062)

While we're at it, can you explain to me why there are no www.domain.uk URLs? Every British URL ends in co.uk. Same in Japan (co.jp). The explanation is prolly damn simple, but I've never encountered it (and maybe I'm too lazy to google it up).

Re:organisation? (2, Informative)

jacksonj04 (800021) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891181)

NomiNET (The .UK registrars) are actually strict about some of the domains. .gov.uk, .edu.uk, .mil.uk and .ac.uk are all quite tightly controlled. .org.uk and .co.uk are fairly open.

Re:organisation? (1)

TotoLeFoobar (256317) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891187)

Um, no. The .uk, for example, have "*.police.uk", such as cityoflondon.police.uk (unfortunately, not that intuitive, since london.police.uk does not even exist). They also have gov.uk, org.uk, ac.uk, etc.

Domains with .co.uk are very useful for Google searches. Such as "fookeyword -site:co.uk". Or search all academic institutions: "foo site:ac.uk".

Also, by having different subdomains, you can charge different prices for them. org.TLD should be cheaper than co.TLD. Afaik, it's like that with the .yu TLD, as long as you provide proof that you are a not-for-profit organisation (something which is reasonable to do for a CC TLD, since many of them ask for trademark and various registration documents anyway).

Re:organisation? (1)

DarkIye (875062) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891675)

(unfortunately, not that intuitive, since london.police.uk does not even exist)

Not the only one, apparently - a quick lookup shows that metropolitan.police.uk doesn't exist, either, it's met.police.uk. Odd.

Re:organisation? (5, Informative)

redalien (711170) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891294)

It is pretty damn simple, some organisations decided to sell third level domains, some second level. This allows the same name to be used in different contexts. The .uk options that I know of are:

Personal site (clever name, eh?)
Public Limited Company
LimiTeD liability Company
Ministry Of Defense (Includes all armed forces)
Police, obviously
ACademic institutions
SCHool (this one is broken down more to schoolname.localeducationauthority.sch.uk, so my secondary school was barrbeacon.walsall.sch.uk)
National Health Service
Why shouldn't there be a logical distinction between the hospitals in Birmingham [birmingham.nhs.uk] and the government in Birmingham [birmingham.gov.uk] ? It just makes sense to me, you wouldn't want birmingham-council.uk, birmingham-nhs.uk, as you wouldn't have a restrictive pattern to ensure uniformity. I once surprised somebody by going to a police website without googling...

"How did you know the URL?"
"Err.. it's the name of the force, followed by .police.uk..."

Re:organisation? (1)

Varitek (210013) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892567)

Interestingly, there's also parliament.uk. At first it seems strange that it's not parliament.gov.uk, but in the UK system, it's Government that is subservient to Parliament, and therefore parliament.gov.uk would give out quite the wrong idea.

There are also a few holdouts from before the .uk domain was rationalised - bl.uk, for example, is the British Library.

Re:organisation? (1)

955301 (209856) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892585)

2 reasons: Because these domains are more organized than ours and categorize entities in those countries as subdomains of those countries. The .co distinguishes a company from a government entity. www.hse.gov.uk, northumbria.ac.uk, etc.

2nd, co.us is Colorado. We would have probably ended up with com.us endings had this caught on.

Re:organisation? (1)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891156)

...which is why things generic top-level domains are frowned upon and why the existing ones are slowly gotten rid of and no new ones are being introduced, right?

Re:organisation? (1)

timster (32400) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891268)

No, that's because the system is being run by committee, and thus the changes implemented are by nature of the process completely pointless.

Re:organisation? (1)

backwardMechanic (959818) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892063)

I rather like being able to search .ac.uk, and only hitting academic sites. Searching .gov.uk is quite handy to. And to all those folks out there who don't get it, if you're a shop in the UK, selling mainly to the UK, please use .co.uk. If I'm looking for bicyle parts, for example, I usually limit my googling to .co.uk. The internet might not care about geography, but the postman does.

Re:organisation? (1)

955301 (209856) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892547)

Geography was the only really useful structure I ever saw out of the DNS system. It certainly would have made Google's life easier for google.local to have law.redmond.wa.us instead of lawyersofgreaterwashington.com.

Think if you could set your browser to a certain locality and automatically reduce name completion for the address to your city.

Re:organisation? (1)

susano_otter (123650) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891199)

Will everything be straight under .eu, or will there be some notion of categorisation, such as .com.eu, .edu.eu, .gov.eu, etc

More to the point: How is this an "online rights" issue?

Staggered registrations (4, Insightful)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890747)

From TFA:
Trademark holders have had a "sunrise period" since December to register their own trademarks.

Public bodies and some other rights holders were allowed to apply in the initial phase.

The names are given out on a first-come-first-serve basis to applicants who then have 40 days to provide proof they hold a trademark in that name.
I really have to commend the powers that be on this staggered-registration scheme. It's enough to placate the valid trademark holders while cutting down chances of companies who missed out suing whoever gets it after the fact, and I hope the folks in charge of future TLD releases take note of this.

Re:Staggered registrations (1)

deathcloset (626704) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891106)

in li.eu of this sunrise period you speak of, would sex.eu be spoken for already by some entity?

I ask, because there will no doubt be a huge rush at that domain.

I wonder, how would one even get that domain registered? Will someone with "connections" have the better chance?

Re:Staggered registrations (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14891218)

Yes, it's almost as if they acknowledge that there is no "invisible hand of the free market" to keep things in line for them...

Re:Staggered registrations (1)

Elixon (832904) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891505)

"40 days to provide proof" :-)
I was VERY surprised when I was applying to my .eu domain. The proof is simply any paper you can print on your personal printer. It does not need to be validated, approved... nothing like this. If you go to any national trademark authority's web pages and you hit PRINT in your browser - then you have a PROOF.

I found it when packing the proof and checking the condition terms. I had OFFICIAL declaration of ownership issued by state authority which means that it is a "public document" in our country. Such as document is protected by our law. You cannot write on it, alter it, fake it,... When checking the conditions I found out that there was said I'm supposed to put my signature on every page of the proof. I thought if I'll do that than I commit the crime! I contacted our domain registrar and they replied that I should scan it, print it on my printer and then sign it. I was told to do not send original papers because if I sent more papers or less papers or papers with clip on it - they can cancel my registration!

I didn't get the point. Why should I sent the printed web page. Does the PWC have no Internet connection? This is what I call bureaucracy.

And 40 days period?
My domain:
Applied: 09/01/2006
Documents received: 19/01/2006
Deadline ADR (procedure against decision can be initiated before): 18/4/2006

So I applied in January and I cannot use the domain until April. Bureaucracy is slower then 40 days...

Re:Staggered registrations (1)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892058)

I would guess that the requirement of even a copy of your proof is meant to be something that the registrar can keep on file as your evidence of claim, therefore ensuring the burden of proof is not on the registrar themselves. That way, if you use something you made up yourself in Word and some company who actually owns it challenges your claim, it's between you and that company to prove it and you'll lose that fight without a real document.

Registering .EU takes 100 days in my case (2, Informative)

Elixon (832904) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892687)

I understand it but what I don't is why it took them exactly 50 days to validate the application - to review my submitted documents. Why? How can they validate the submitted documents printed on my home printer from who-know what source? Probably by checking the on-line databases. There is no other way. Could not they do that before automaticly? They could ask me to fill the link pointing directly to the national database... or they could create a robot to do it it is not so difficult...

Yesterday they accepted my application after 50 days from the date they recieved the documents and 60 days after I applied for the domain. Now I have 40 days long period for ADR before I can use my domain => 60 + 40 = it will take 100 days to register my .EU domain.

As the customer I'm not satisfied with the speed of the service.

Are you kidding? (1)

tacokill (531275) | more than 8 years ago | (#14893087)

Dude, it's Europe. Get used to it. For all of my life, everytime I have to deal with Europe or European companies -- I re-learn the fact that my concept of "time" is not the same as theirs. Just try to get ANYTHING done in August or September and you will get a first hand lesson too (Europe goes on vacation during those months)

Sucks that it has to be that way and I am certain they are not alone but it is what it is.

What takes 2 weeks here in America, often takes 2 months when you go abroad. I am not smart enough to know WHY that is but one thing is for sure: it has been a consistent problem for my entire adult life. And I don't think it's going to change.

(note: for those that think I am bashing -- I'm not. I am simply stating an observation that is obvious to many Americans such as myself. You can debate the differences in culture on your own time.)

Why bother? (4, Interesting)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890822)

The only organisation for which the .eu domain makes sense is the European Union (government). Other organisations, both commercial and nonprofit tend to be either national or worldwide.
I suspect many .eu domains will end up being redirected to existing .com websites, with large companies buying YA domain name just to prevent domain squatters etc.

Re:Why bother? (1)

Zzeep (682115) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890948)

You might be mistaken. Europe is real! I think alot of companies see this as a good way to strengthen their european presence. It is now yet again a little bit easier for, say, a Belgian company to trade with customers all over Europe.

Re:Why bother? (1)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892211)

Europe might be real, but that doesn't mean people are going to look at companies as being "European". I know of exactly two exceptions: EADS and Airbus. Both have .com domains registered.

Companies that operate internationally often already have a .com domain. If I want to know more about Volvo, for instance, I either go to volvo.com (expecting to find the Volvo Worldwide site) or volvo.[country] to find out about their national distributor. Volvo.eu I'd never bother entering as an URL.

Re:Why bother? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14892705)

The amusing thing is that Airbus is part of EADS. So there is really only one.

Re:Why bother? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14893700)

How is .eu any "easier" or more useful than .be or .com? Very few companies limit their business to Europe alone. They're either national or international businesses.

It might make sense for the website of the European HQ in those cases where the organisation is set up like that.

Re:Why bother? (4, Interesting)

Rich0 (548339) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891018)

The polo.eu example only serves to underscore this. Why do we need new TLDs? The typical answer to this is that we're out of easy-to-type domain names. So, what do we do - we charge a million domain-holders $10 each to replicate the .com domain to the .eu domain. How exactly does this solve the problem? The only thing that would make sense would be to disqualify anybody from holding the same address in more than one TLD. The main objection to this is due to squatters leveraging typing errors or the confusion over com/net/org/whatever. Well, if that is the real problem then the fix is very simple - just restrict everything to a single domain and then you don't have volvo.com, volvo.org, and volvo.net...

The real purpose of new TLDs is to drum up revenue for registrars...

WOOT F7p (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890825)

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But what domain will the EU use? (-1, Troll)

jonr (1130) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890855)

the.eu? eu.eu?

org.eu ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890924)

... just to screw with your head.

Re:But what domain will the EU use? (5, Funny)

bitt3n (941736) | more than 8 years ago | (#14890968)

I expect all traffic from the US government will be forwarded to screw.eu

Confused??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14890922)

Volkswagen -> Car maker (one of it's cars is named Polo, it's like a slimed down Golf in the hatchback version)

Volvo -> Another make (Line includes S40, S60, S80, etc.)

You gringos should know this!!!

Common Words Ending With eu (4, Funny)

michaelaiello (841620) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891004)

1. emeu
2. eu
3. adieu
4. aeu
5. basbleu
6. beaulieu
7. bleu
8. boutefeu
9. calcasieu
10. camaieu
11. ceu
12. chisleu
13. feu
14. heu
15. jussieu
16. leu
17. lieu
18. meu
19. milieu
20. montesquieu
21. neu
22. pareu
23. pourlieu
24. priedieu
25. purlieu
26. reu
27. richelieu
28. seu
29. teu
30. virgalieu
31. weu
32. xeu

behold the power of grep.

Common? (1)

Errandboy of Doom (917941) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891288)

Boutefeu: 177k google hits.

Calcasieu: A river you've never seen in Louisiana.

Most of these words have French origins. So, sadly, the French will benefit the most from domain name punning. Maybe phonetics would be better for us anglophiles:


Other ideas? We must not lose an inch in the interlingual contest for stupidest web naming memes!

Re:Common Words Ending With eu (1)

klenwell (960296) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891443)

has anyone pounced on pepelep.eu?

jonfavre.au? I guess that's Australian. (Or is it Austrian?)

Re:Common Words Ending With eu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14893712)

32. xeu

I say xeu everyday!

OK, maybe I read the entire dictionary everyday.

Hmm (1, Funny)

ajs318 (655362) | more than 8 years ago | (#14891010)

ajs318@marijuana $ whois di.eu
% .eu Whois Server 1.0
% (c) 2005 (http://www.eurid.eu/
% The WHOIS service offered by EURid and the access to the records
% in the EURid WHOIS database are provided for information purposes
% only. It allows persons to check whether a specific domain name
% is still available or not and to obtain information related to
% the registration records of existing domain names.
% EURid cannot, under any circumstances, be held liable in case the
% stored information would prove to be wrong, incomplete or not
% accurate in any sense.
% By submitting a query you agree not to use the information made
% available to:
% - allow, enable or otherwise support the transmission of unsolicited,
% commercial advertising or other solicitations whether via email or
% otherwise;
% - target advertising in any possible way;
% - to cause nuisance in any possible way to the registrants by sending
% (whether by automated, electronic processes capable of enabling
% high volumes or other possible means) messages to them.
% Without prejudice to the above, it is explicitly forbidden to extract,
% copy and/or use or re-utilise in any form and by any means
% (electronically or not) the whole or a quantitatively or qualitatively
% substantial part of the contents of the WHOIS database without prior
% and explicit permission by EURid, nor in any attempt hereof, to apply
% automated, electronic processes to EURid (or its systems).
% You agree that any reproduction and/or transmission of data for
% commercial purposes will always be considered as the extraction of a
% substantial part of the content of the WHOIS database.
% By submitting the query you agree to abide by this policy and accept
% that EURid can take measures to limit the use of its WHOIS services
% in order to protect the privacy of its registrants or the integrity
% of the database.
% % WHOIS di
Domain: di
Looks like that one's probably going to be taken, then.

How much did Saddam pay for france.eu? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14891370)

Hell, he got germany.eu in the deal, too.

That Oil-for-Food money was good for something kinda useful, I guess.

eh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14891603)

forget the .eu domains, I want mer.de!

EnglandDidNotJoinThe.eu (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14891997)

England signed up to a Common Market in 1973.

The people of England have not voted to join the eu or to be ruled by the eu.

Getting a couple .eu (1)

britneysimpson (960285) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892081)

Going to pick me up a few I wonder who got computer.eu should be interesting to see what is left when the bidding goes public!

.cat: when did that appear? (2, Interesting)

adnonsense (826530) | more than 8 years ago | (#14892846)

Slightly off-topic (but only slightly, it's European): has anyone noticed the emergence of the .cat tld? As in barcelona.cat [barcelona.cat] ?

(I'd call dibs on cool.cat [cool.cat] but I can't find any registrar offering it).

Re:.cat: when did that appear? (2, Informative)

paol (461811) | more than 8 years ago | (#14893968)

Well, .cat obviously stands for Catalunya. I wonder how they got a TLD. Last time I looked Catalunya wasn't a country.

Anyway, the organization in charge of the domain is here: http://www.puntcat.org/ [puntcat.org]

And cool.cat appears to be available :)
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