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So (2, Interesting)

poeidon1 (767457) | more than 8 years ago | (#14916922)

is quantum cryptography being persued in the military?

Re:So (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 8 years ago | (#14916926)

> is quantum cryptography being persued in the military?

Yes and no.

Re:So (4, Funny)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917253)

Only the cat knows, and if you ask, it might kill him.

Depends on which country (couldn't resist) (1)

freaker_TuC (7632) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921115)

does that cat knows any secrets?

russian cat: Where secret's don't kill the cat but the cat kills you!
Polish cat: *pop*
dutch cat: I'm too stoned, leave me alone.
Cartoon [google.be] cat: In little pieces you go for knowing my classification level!
USA cat: I can tell you but then I have to kill you!
English cat: Martini please, shaken, not stirred (while thinking: I'm using my license to kill)
Iraki cat: *boom*
Smart [wikipedia.org] cat: Got to report this to the cryptonomium
My cat: is there any food left?

Your cat might be in the resistance too, using secret bio-weapons [wikipedia.org], taking over every human on this planet. Do look for any unusual behavior, running around like crazy to train for any happening incidents, owning property, peeking through blankets or small spaces, eavesdropping and much more.

Re:So (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14918734)

Of course it's not being pursued. Pursuit implies un-achieved. Any further description would change the message. Besides, quantum encruption is so 80s.

Elonka (5, Informative)

HackHackBoom (198866) | more than 8 years ago | (#14916961)

I had the pleasure of working with Elonka through her primary employer, Simutronics for a few months... She's brilliant and I think her work in cryptography as it relates to the subject matter of this article is top notch.

Re:Elonka (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14916989)

Yes, but is she hot?

I kid I kid. ... or am I?

Re:Elonka (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917097)

Jesus, get your cock out of your hand when you say that...

Re:Elonka (3, Interesting)

pilgrim23 (716938) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917323)

About a year or two ago I had a discussion with this lady on a subject of mutual interest: the Voynich Manuscript; a medeval bit of encryption. Her knowledge of that obscurity caught my curiousity so I looked her up. A MOST impressive curicula vitae there...

Re:Elonka (3, Interesting)

Joiseybill (788712) | more than 8 years ago | (#14918481)

I also worked with Simutronics for a while - apparently during the period she was working out of St. Louis apartments. I never knew that at the time. As a GameHost for GemStone III, I always thought that they ran a very slick, professional site. We had several developers,had mandatory weekly meetings (online) to discuss game developments and maintenance and they ran 24/7/365 operations. I was amazed to see a MMORPG that could handle 1000+ average simultaneous users, and I was proud to have redundant dial-up access through both AOL and CompuServe because AOL went down so much. I was there for the breakaway transition, but left before they became play.com. I assumed they had a fancy office campus outside St. Louis right from the beginning. (For the younger among us, this was the time when those ISPs were charging $3 per hour -or much more on GEnie- for people to connect and play these games.) I even considered applying and moving there to work. (I got married instead.) I didn't think Elonka (then SimuElonka) was on-board from the beginning. I guess that shows how little a peon like me really knew about the business end. I was supervised by GameMasters and a management-type guy called SimuJosh. I only met Elonka (virtually) once or twice in our weekly meetings. I thought she was more involved with DragonRealms and another murder-mystery type game. Since those days, I have also become interested in crypto - now back in school and working on my MS with a concentration in security. Elonka is definitely one of the most knowledgeable in the field - and she has remained relatively accessible, as opposed to some elite acadmics. Before this article, I had read about Elonka's public work & glanced at her website but I never put the name together. Thanks for bringing this all together for me SlashDot!

Elonka Dunin?! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14916974)

I loved her in Buffy and Bring It On!

A Beautiful Mind? (2, Interesting)

indyweb (959553) | more than 8 years ago | (#14916990)

Looks like she's the real thing, even makes Russell Crowe seem boring.

Re:A Beautiful Mind? (0, Offtopic)

LeonGeeste (917243) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917036)

John Nash faked his schizophrenia. Which is easy because there's no objective test for it.

Re:A Beautiful Mind? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917161)

An objective test is easy. All it takes is one simple question:

Are you schizophrenic?

"Yes! No! Shut up, let him talk!"

Perfectly objective.

Re:A Beautiful Mind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917494)

schizophrenia != dissociative disorder

Re:A Beautiful Mind? (1)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917336)

That brings up the question of how sane a person who fakes mental illness for a significant portion of his life is.

Re:A Beautiful Mind? (2, Insightful)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917288)

The movie's portrayal of Nash was cleaned up quite a bit -- in reality he was even crazier than Crowe portrayed him, and not at all a sympathetic character. The nice thing about people like Dunin is that they demonstrate to the world that people can be true geniuses without falling into any of the "mad scientist" or "hopeless social outcast" stereotypes.

"hopeless social outcast" (0, Troll)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917659)

Bearing in mind that I don't know her AT ALL and in fact she seems like a perfectly well-adjusted person from reading her webpages, I can't help but wonder why she isn't married - and has apparently never been - at the age of 48 which she's totally a reasonably attractive woman.

This would be completely offtopic if it didn't speak to the question of whether or not you can be a genius without being completely maladjusted.

Re:"hopeless social outcast" (1)

tukkayoot (528280) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917856)

Bearing in mind that I don't know her AT ALL and in fact she seems like a perfectly well-adjusted person from reading her webpages, I can't help but wonder why she isn't married - and has apparently never been - at the age of 48 which she's totally a reasonably attractive woman.

I think it's just that she's intelligent enough to realize that the idea of marriage doesn't appeal to her, though of course, there could be more to it than that. I don't know her personally, but I did meet her one year at SimuCon [play.net] and the conversation I had with her strongly suggested to me that she is quite sexually liberated, and this may account for her apparent aversion to monogamy. She was flirtatious and didn't seem socially awkward to me, but then I suppose you have to consider the setting (the St. Louis Hilton populated by hundreds of inebriated gaming geeks.)

A lot of men would probably feel threatened by this type of woman, and that might make it difficult for her to find someone to settle down with, assuming she wants to.

Or course she could be wacko-nuts, for all I know, but I kind of doubt it. She's certainly different/special, and that alone, in the perceptions of many, would make her at least a little "crazy".

Re:"hopeless social outcast" (1)

tukkayoot (528280) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917897)

(the St. Louis Hilton populated by hundreds of inebriated gaming geeks.)

Oops, it the Sheraton, not Hilton. I have to admit that it is all kind of a blur, given that I didn't get much sleep over the few days that I was there, owing to the fact that I was sharing a room (with two beds) with eleven other people.

Re:"hopeless social outcast" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917932)

wtg slashdot mods on troll mod.

star, I felt that was both on topic and non-troll. maybe IHBT, but I felt you were being sincere. It's a decent question.

Just because she doesn't invent events and hunch over doesn't mean somewhere, something isn't wrong that keeps her from forming successful relationships. Or maybe she's just a bitch. Who knows.

Anyway, this means little coming from an AC, so I'll stop now.

Re:"hopeless social outcast" (1)

StarKruzr (74642) | more than 8 years ago | (#14926319)

Nope, you haven't been trolled. It was an honest question.

The above poster makes a good point about her being flirtatious and sexually liberated, which isn't something you can really pick up from her (admittedly large) body of published material online.

It's interesting to me that most geeky women seem to fall either into the "sexually repressed" or "libertine" categories. I can't actually think of a single geeky girl I know who is just straight-up sexually normal on that scale.

You're absolutely dead-on (1)

Cybrex (156654) | more than 8 years ago | (#14924719)

I wouldn't say that I know Elonka, but I've met her numerous times at Dragon*Con, have spoken with her during and after various hacker panels, and even snapped a couple of pix of her (no, not THOSE kinds of pix!).

She's one of the most impressive people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. She's staggeringly intelligent, yet completely approachable and unassuming. She's the only person I've ever met who can discuss quantum cryptography in detail without coming across sounding "high brow". Think of a female Buckaroo Banzai with a better sense of humor and you'll get an idea.

My wife has a strong interest in cryptography, and has made it clear that Elonka is her hero. Personally, I suspect that she (my wife) has a bit of a crush on her, but that's fodder for a different forum. ;-)

Background info (5, Informative)

yppiz (574466) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917112)

There's also a pretty good Wikipedia entry for her [wikipedia.org].

--Pat

Re:Background info (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917292)

Thank you, I was looking for links to her website etc, as no single link is given in the interview. Djeez, these people haven't heard of hyperlinking I guess?

She is pretty amazing (3, Interesting)

Mortisoul (542987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917127)

After meeting her both at defcon and when she was kind enough to come and speak at a couple of the UMR ACM meetings she is completely brilliant. I wish her the best of luck with the final parts of the sculpture as well as success with her game company. Good taste in sushi too :)

Re:She is pretty amazing (-1, Flamebait)

heatdeath (217147) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917157)

All of the first 10 posts have been completely retarded. You guys sound like X-Files fans drooling over scully.

Re:She is pretty amazing (3, Insightful)

Mortisoul (542987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917257)

You have to meet her honestly. In a society which is slowly making its general population utterly stupid, through the stripping of funding from schools and the terrible ways most teachers are treated, finding someone who is kind, fun to be around, and amazingly brilliant is just too rare. Go to defcon when she speaks and then talk to her afterward if you don't your missing out.

Re:She is pretty amazing (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917404)

Hint: having an appealing personality starts with not yammering about how stupid everyone around you is and how tedious it makes your life.

Very cool person ;) (2, Interesting)

222 (551054) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917201)

I met elonka at a con a few years ago, and I can honestly say she's one of the coolest people to go out and have a few drinks with; very interesting conversations.

Btw, its about time we caught another movie ;), Jay

Re:Very cool person ;) (1)

Mortisoul (542987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917222)

Was it Kill Bill you saw with a group in LV? Me thinks I was there if it was.

Re:Very cool person ;) (4, Funny)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917316)

Were any of the DC geeks trying to pull that cheesy yawning-arm-stretch maneuver on Elonka Dunin at the movie?

Re:Very cool person ;) (1)

Mortisoul (542987) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917351)

Eh, not that I recall but hey there was more then a bit to drink although I do think we should all go out again at the next DC.

Potential Problem (4, Funny)

nmccart (952969) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917248)

Quantum cryptography is neat, to be sure, but what happens if the cat dies?

In Soviet Russia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917382)

Sub-atomic particles look at YOU!!!!

Re:Potential Problem (4, Funny)

pegr (46683) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917791)

Quantum cryptography is neat, to be sure, but what happens if the cat dies?

 
As long as you don't look, no problem!

The Corporation (4, Interesting)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917348)

The CIA is not supposed to be a "military agency". It was originally supposed to be an assassination agency supporting US military overthrow of enemy governments during WWII, when it was the "Office of Special Services". When it was converted to the CIA, its postwar role was supposed to be foreign intelligence gathering, with domestic operations confined to centrally processing government intelligence information. None of its operations are supposed to be military, as in tactical violence against strategic targets to support government policies.

The CIA is not supposed to trade guns for cocaine or peddle them in the US, or work with the mafia to fund operations secret from Congress, either.

Re:The Corporation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917405)

or traffic smack during the vietnam war...

Re:The Corporation (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917777)

Or Ecstasy during the Terror War.

Re:The Corporation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14919050)

Surprize, surprize. Doc Ruby is caught up in some more delusional conspiracy theories. Some things never change.

Re:The Corporation (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921541)

I'm not surprised when an Anonymous rightwing Coward denies the truth about their conspiracy.

Re:The Corporation (1)

Concerned Onlooker (473481) | more than 8 years ago | (#14922295)

It's not a delusional conspiracy theory if it's true. Wake up. The world's movers and shakers are almost all sociopaths, our side included. The current War On Terror(tm) can be simply translated to Our Terrorists Can Beat Your Terrorists.

Re:The Corporation (3, Interesting)

0ptix (649734) | more than 8 years ago | (#14918512)

Nor is the CIA really into cryptography. Yes they need a few cryptographers here and there but when I went to them, looking for a job (in the field of cryptography research) i was politly asked to go see their colegues over at the (very non-discript and unmarked) NSA booth over in the corner.

The first time round when approaching the NSA booth I stupidly enough kept my (normal) british accent and was almost imediatly told to go see the GCHQ. (i.e. "get lost kid") So I walked off again and only came back when there was a new representative sitting behind the desk. This time I didnt bother mentioning my nationality and put on a nice generic american accent letting them assume my orginis were more... kosher. :-)

Of course that interview went quite differently... "Oh yes! Well you've come to the right place then. We have a great program for you begining with several years of training where we rotate you through the variouse subfields teaching you all the newest techniques and methods you'll never hear about in academic circles... blablabla.... Just please sign here."

somehow i just couldnt help but thinking of Faust... i wonder why...

i got what i wanted though. a cool business card from the NSA math highering department and some email address printed on an old dotmatrix, cutout and stuck on the back. cloack n dagger n all that...

Anyway if you really want do crypto work for the US gov. (or DOD in particular) then never mind the CIA. The NSA or the SigInt guys are who you really want to talk to.

AFAIK of course. I mean how would a mere civilian and a FORIEGNER at that have any clue about whats going on over there... :-)

Re:The Corporation (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921507)

Thanks for the reminder that "the NSA" in various capacities is reading these threads ;).

Re:The Corporation (1)

sgt_doom (655561) | more than 8 years ago | (#14919188)

It's not supposed to assassinate US presidents, but that didn't stop them when it came to John F. Kennedy.....(see those State Department memos declassified this past year).

Re:The Corporation (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14920276)

It was the "Office of Strategic Services", not special...

In our midst (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917410)

Not only is she featured on Slashdot. She's also a member. [slashdot.org]

Re:In our midst (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917575)

Ten to one says that the "anonymous reader" who submitted the article is none other than Elonka herself. If she had posted a few pictures of herself, I wouldn't have minded the blatant self-promotion.

Re:In our midst (5, Informative)

Elonka (710689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14920954)

Ten to one says that the "anonymous reader" who submitted the article is none other than Elonka herself.

I'll take that bet. ;) Wasn't me, and I didn't even know that the Whitedust interview had been posted, until the Simutronics CEO (David Whatley [slashdot.org], another slashdotter) IMed me and said, "You are about to be slashdotted" (and no, it wasn't him either). A couple minutes after that, a bunch of other IMs flew in with similar warnings to batten down the web-server, and I've been dealing with the related deluge for the rest of the day. As slashdottings go though, it's been relatively light (only about 5000 visitors), probably because the Whitedust folks didn't actually put any links to my website in their interview. The traffic has been coming in from the secondary links in the /. thread, from my Wikipedia bio [wikipedia.org], and from Google.

If I would have started the thread, you can be sure I would have linked it better, to my site [elonka.com], my company [play.net], and my upcoming book [elonka.com]. ;) My guess is it was posted by someone from Whitedust.

Elonka :)

Re:In our midst (1)

EnsilZah (575600) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921882)

Heh, you'd think the person this story is about would get modded higher than 2 when posting about it.
There really should be a Slashdot interview with you, could skip the whole picking out qestions and waiting for answers bit too.
I know i'd really like to hear about the whole game development thing myself.

Re:In our midst (1)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#14918513)

Not only is she featured on Slashdot. She's also a member.

And she goes to the gym [slashdot.org], too!

C'mon guys, now we have a genius as our slashdotter role model, we should follow her example and build some muscle!

Willow Offgood will protect her! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917546)

We must get Elonka Dunin to Tir Asleen where she will be safe from the evil Queen Bavmorda!

Steganography (3, Interesting)

Aspirator (862748) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917676)

From TFA:
And there was an extensive scan of images done by a team from the University of Michigan,
looking through millions of internet locations, and then clustering computers together and
running password dictionary attacks on anything that looked suspicious, but they never found
a single thing.


Given the prevalence of near GB files traversing the internet, and a payload of only a few kB,
is there any reasonable expectation that one could find it if it did exist, let alone decrypt it?

Re:Steganography (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14918593)

Yeah right! to say Al-Qaeda sends off jpegs with secrets is like saying
  Bush prepares before a public speech! It's just NOT logical. And speaking
  of 9/11 Al-Qaeda, there are some people who wanna find out what REALLY
  happened that day...don't pretend you don't know who they are...

And why didn't they ask her "Can the NSA break out PGP??" It's what everyone
wants to know...C'mon

Elonka,should we be in constant fear of terrorism? (3, Insightful)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917703)

For emotional satisfaction, it has been helping out with the war on terrorism, and educating government agents about steganography and what types of codes that Al Qaeda might (or might not) be using.

I would like to ask her if she feels that the amount of fear that people feel today about terrorism is justified? Is Elonka fearful of terrorist cells in our midst? Does she think that we are due for another attack?
It would be interesting to know what she has to say about the 'War on Terrorism.'

doubt that she has given it that much thought (3, Interesting)

barutanseijin (907617) | more than 8 years ago | (#14918575)

Her remark about how "helping out with the war on terrorism" gives her the warm fuzzies suggests to me that she has either absorbed the ambient paranoia or that she is cynically exploiting it. Considering that AQ is a very loose network of Anti-Western religious fanatics, some of them in hiding off the grid, and not a monolithic, top-down organisation of Super-Baddies, I'd guess the latter. Even if she's only saying it gives her the warm fuzzies because she thinks she has to say that to maintain her status with the CIA, it doesn't say a whole lot for her. After all, there are plenty of US soldiers in Iraq who aren't afraid to speak their minds.

Yes, she's clever. But perhaps not much more than that. Colour me unimpressed.

Re:Elonka,should we be in constant fear of terrori (1)

Pseudonym (62607) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921190)

I can't speak for Elonka, but when I was helping (a little) with the codes book which is going to be published Real Soon Now, I got the extremely strong impression that, about Iraq at any rate, she was strongly in favour of robust, informed debate. She filled the book with quotes about the moral and pragmatic issues of war from multiple perspectives for precisely that reason.

So if I had to guess, if you asked her that question, the answer would almost certainly be along the same lines.

On a personal note, as to whether or not there's more terrorism in store for the US homeland: Of course there is! What I can't tell you is whether it will be from an Al Qaeda franchise or from the next Timothy McVeigh.

Re:Elonka,should we be in constant fear of terrori (2, Insightful)

Elonka (710689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14922225)

I can't speak for Elonka, but when I was helping (a little) with the codes book which is going to be published Real Soon Now, I got the extremely strong impression that, about Iraq at any rate, she was strongly in favour of robust, informed debate. She filled the book with quotes about the moral and pragmatic issues of war from multiple perspectives for precisely that reason.

I couldn't have put it any better myself. You got it exactly right, and I'm glad that that came through, at least to you, one of my contributors who saw an early draft . Unfortunately, the publisher edited out some of my stronger comments from the book's introduction (I may re-post them via my blog, I haven't decided yet), but all of the plaintext (and encrypted!) quotes are still there, so the opinions that I wanted represented, still are. ;)

Elonka :)

(Answer to Cryptogram #52: "When I am abroad, I always make it a rule never to criticize or attack the government of my own country. I make up for lost time when I come home." - Winston Churchill)

Re:Elonka,should we be in constant fear of terrori (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14923322)

Elonka, thanks for writing, I will have to check out your blog some time. Good luck on your future endeavors! :)

Elonka Dunin? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14917710)

Nobody names their kid "Elonka". I suspect if you decode E-L-O-N-K-A-D-U-N-I-N correctly that you'll find out her real name is Xenia Onatop or Alotta Fagina or something like that.

Re:Elonka Dunin? (2, Funny)

InvaderSkoodge (858660) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917954)

"Nobody names their kid 'Elonka'"

It's amazing how often parents make really poor choices when naming their children. For example, Yahoo's people search comes up with 82 occurances of people named Richard Head.

Nope (4, Funny)

hey! (33014) | more than 8 years ago | (#14918149)

Nobody names their kid "Elonka". I suspect if you decode E-L-O-N-K-A-D-U-N-I-N correctly that you'll find out her real name is Xenia Onatop or Alotta Fagina or something like that.

More probably her real name is "LEONA UNKIND". Or, since this is Slashdot and sooner or later the question "hotness" comes up when any woman is discussed, you might want to click "ON A NUDE LINK", and hope you don't get "A NODE UNLINK", or if she's feeling a bit waspish you may be in for "A DUNK ONLINE".

Re:Elonka Dunin? (3, Informative)

szobatudos (642289) | more than 8 years ago | (#14918197)

for Elonka in US not, but for Ilonka in Poland, yes. That is Helen if you are a native English speaker... E is just for correct pronunciation.

Re:Elonka Dunin? (2, Informative)

Elonka (710689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921029)

for Elonka in US not, but for Ilonka in Poland, yes. That is Helen if you are a native English speaker... E is just for correct pronunciation.

Yup, you get the prize for coming closest, though I got a kick out of the various anagrams, too. :)

For the record (and those not interested in genealogy or name origins can stop reading now), it's my real birth name, and is Hungarian. I was named after my maternal grandmother, Ilona Pazman. The "ka" is a diminutive suffix (like in Spanish, "Juan" will become Juanito or Juanita when used with a child), and the "E" was substituted as an Americanized spelling so that it would be pronounced correctly. And yes, it means "Helen" which is Greek for "light" or "shining", as in "Hellenic culture".

Elonka :)

Re:Elonka Dunin? (1)

szobatudos (642289) | more than 8 years ago | (#14922936)

Well, I'm Hungarian, but from your relatives I've thought you are 100% Polish. There is always a Hungarian thread... :-)

Elonka? Is that Gnome or KDE? (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917770)

These names are just too confusing nowadays is this a KDE project (ElonKa) or a gnome project like Ekiga?

Gemstone III (1)

Gallenod (84385) | more than 8 years ago | (#14917950)

I played Gemstone III via GEnie for six years and worked as an associate sysop for the GEnie Multi-Player Games Roundtable for almost that long. I remember Elonka and the folks at Simutronics as one of the main driving forces behind establishing online gaming in the early '90s. Everquest and World of Warcraft owe Simutronics and other early online gaming pioneers like Kesmai a great debt for getting the ball rolling.

Fifteen years ago, Gemstone had a top simultaneaous limit of 60 players and was apparently only allowed as much memory on the server as a word processing application took on a PC. MMOGs have come a long way since then.

(Gemstone Trivia and In-Joke Alert: The "TLR" in my sig stands for "The Lost Ranger." Old Gemstone III players and GMs may remember who I was in game.) ;)

Interviewing Elora Danan? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14918016)

So that's what happened to her after Willow. Thanks for the update.

Any one know her AFSC? (1)

aquatone282 (905179) | more than 8 years ago | (#14918051)

Elonka's bio [elonka.com] states she was a USAF avionics tech with the SR-71 and U-2 programs.

Anyone know her AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code)?

Re:Any one know her AFSC? (2, Informative)

Elonka (710689) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921251)

Anyone know her AFSC (Air Force Specialty Code)?

325x1

Elonka :)

Re:Any one know her AFSC? (1)

aquatone282 (905179) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921530)

Instruments - cool.

I was a 328x3 Electronic Warfare guy with the TR-1/U-2 at RAF Alconbury and Osan AB (IYAABYAS!). I worked on the sensors.

Nice meeting you Elonka.

Jim

Repeal the 19th ammendment (women's vote in theUS) (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14918595)

Repeal the 19th ammendment (women's vote in the US).
It's sad that, even in the maths, men are forced to work with women.

who? (3, Interesting)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14919628)

I'm interested in cryptography, but could someobody explain to me why anyone should care about this person? Most of the posts so far are something like, "She's so cool! I met her!" or "I went on a date with her, look at me!" But what has she done that is significant other than socializing with the nerds of slashdot? Are there any widely-implemented algorithms to her name? Did she find a novel way to break a cipher? Will I find theories or equations named after her in a crypto textbook?

I'm hoping someone can post what it is that makes her famous, other than being a girl in one of the geekiest parts domains of CS.

Re:who? (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 8 years ago | (#14920311)

" I'm interested in cryptography, but could someobody explain to me why anyone should care about this person?"

Ah ... Grasshopper ... these are deep secrets embedded in the linked document and decipherable only by those who know the intracacies of the fabled RTFA algorithm!

Re:who? (1)

myvirtualid (851756) | more than 8 years ago | (#14920481)

could someobody explain to me why anyone should care about this person

RTFA. -1 for being a dork. -1 for being lazy. -1 for asking others to tell you what you could have learned yourself in less time than it took you to write your post.

Good general practice: RTFA, then read the comments.

(Yeah, yeah, this is /., we cannot expect good practice generally.)

I'd never heard of her either, until I RTFAd. After RTFAing, I'm glad ScuttleMonkey accepted the article, she's a very interesting person with a way cool background, scarily bright, and, according to /.ers, just a fantastic human being.

While I'm at it, technically she is a cryptanalyst, not a cryptographer. (She describes herself as a cryptologist, also correct, since cryptology includes cryptoanalysis and cryptography. Don't know the different? RTFA, what am I, wikipedia?)

Re:who? (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 8 years ago | (#14921730)

I started to read the article. The first few questions told me nothing of why she is famous. That should have been in the blurb. I shouldn't have to search. It should be in the damn blurb.

And for you: -1 for not answering a question.

Re:who? (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | more than 8 years ago | (#14922284)

"I started to read the article. The first few questions told me nothing of why she is famous. That should have been in the blurb. I shouldn't have to search. It should be in the damn blurb."

I know! The audacity of them! It absolutely should have said Lazy Ass Lord Ender, who is interested in hearing what people have to say only if the person has done something he personally considers to be worth his time, or if they have had a crypto algorithm named after them, will delight in the following facts which we will cover in more detail later ...

There oughta be a law!

you "ph33r" Elonka (3, Informative)

StankDawg (62183) | more than 8 years ago | (#14919801)

A lot of people are saying some pretty borderline rude things about someone they don't know (not unusual for /.) so let me state that she is, in fact, one of the nicest and most "normal" people I have ever met. I have known Elonka for quite some time. We meet up a couple of times each year at miscellaneous conferences and I consider her a good friend. The fact that she doesn't answer some of these comments probably makes her more "normal" than most of you now doesn't it?

To make my post more self-promoting, I will point readers to 2 episodes of Binary Revolution Radio [binrev.com] that she was on Here [binrev.com] and Here [binrev.com].

As far as the personal questions, how about you STFU and GTFO because it is NOYGDB? kthxbye!
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