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Google Finance Beta Released

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the money-money-money-money dept.

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t3rmin4t0r writes "Forbes.com is reporting that google has rolled out a finance site. The site finance.google.com seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together. The Forbes article mentions that "Google had previously provided financial information through a framed page featuring information from Yahoo! Finance, Fool.com, MSN Money Central and ClearStation " and that the information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions. "

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Woo hoo! (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14963847)

It's exactly like Yahoo! Finance, only with no ads (Google can't put ads on beta sites for legal reasons) and cool Flash charting. This is probably the best financial site ever created.

who's the troll, now? (1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963869)

This is probably the best financial site ever created.

Care to mention some other or is it just the fact that it is google that makes you all wet?

BTW, I somehow liked the amount of info they give on dead horses [google.com] .

Re:Woo hoo! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14963914)

(Google can't put ads on beta sites for legal reasons)

You may want to check your source. Gmail, Google Groups, and Froogle (and probably others that I haven't bothered to check) are all technically beta, and all have ads.

Re:Woo hoo! (2, Interesting)

Uber Banker (655221) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963968)

You may want to check your source. Gmail, Google Groups, and Froogle (and probably others that I haven't bothered to check) are all technically beta, and all have ads.

He/she may indeed like to check their source. I believe only Google News cannot display ads (due to legal threats), probably including Google's personalised home page as it has Google News contents.

Re:Woo hoo! (4, Interesting)

SparafucileMan (544171) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964211)

uh, no it's not.

1. the data is sparse. no canadian stocks. no options. no bonds. no futures. StockCharts.com has all that, it's free, and the charting is better because:

2. no technical analysis

and Yahoo is still way better than Google finance... hopefully Google will improve, but right now, there are litterly hundreds of free, better, and more comprehensive financial websites out there.

Besides, the fact that they don't get their data directly from the exchanges is _completely_ bogus for anything serious. You can't use Google Finance for any real trading decisions.

Big Deal (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14963855)

I personally don't care, so I thought I would take the time to let all of you know. Thanks.

Re:Big Deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14963865)

Thanks. Now fuck off

In Other Words... (-1, Troll)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963861)

WHO CARES? Why are people so obsessed with money, investments and the stock market? What good does it do you unless you have a lot of money to invest, which most of us don't? Frankly I think we'd all be better off without the concepts of money and property and everyone was just made to share equally by force of law (and the use of drugs to destroy the selfish nature in humans). We'd also go a long way if we eliminated all religions and got rid of "philosophies" like Ayn Rand's Objectivism. The government itself should be run by machines who would hold to the law with no emotion thereby obviating the need for Objectivism in the first place. That is what we need: the death of the monetary and private property systems.

Re:In Other Words... (1)

suso (153703) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963891)

Sites like these provide important economic indicators that help you determine when its the right time to buy a car or a house or go Kwanzaa shopping. I wouldn't dare spend my money unless I felt that it was ok to do so.

correction. (1)

suso (153703) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963935)

Damnit, that was supposed to have <sarc> tags around it. I don't really think like that. I guess that's why they made the preview button.

Re:In Other Words... (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963919)

That's a great idea! My only request is that I get to be an Alpha.

Re:In Other Words... (1)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964049)

That's a great idea! My only request is that I get to be an Alpha.

Sorry man, their motto is 'Do no gEvil.'

Re:In Other Words... (1)

Disavian (611780) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964218)

void Main()
{
      do{
            Evil();
      }while(true)
};

gives a compiler error at Google.

Re:In Other Words... (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964198)

There will be no "Alphas" because the machines will take their place. All humans will be subject to perfect machine law and machine rule. Don't worry though because in essence, we will be their pets and will be well taken care of.

Life is hard. (1)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963946)

Because, remember, everyone's equal! The ditchdigger is as valuable to a society as a doctor and we all should hug and chant Om and love each other!

Get a grip.

(Oh yeah--and pretty offtopic.)

Re:Life is hard. (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963997)

Yeah. Think real hard about that the next time you desperately need a ditch dug and you can only call a doctor... Not too well thought out there kemosabe. Did you come up with that all on your own?

Quick. Clean. (0, Redundant)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963862)

I like it. Needs more features, but it's nice and easy to read. No clutter.

Re:Quick. Clean. (1)

TheBeansprout (926731) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963980)

It's clean because it doesn't do anything...there's a few lines of text and...not much else.... But if they build on it then it'll be great. None of those annoing ads like on Yahoo finance etc.

Yahoo learned nothing (1)

Dr. Evil (3501) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964020)

I can't visit Yahoo finance anymore. The ads give me seisures.

This is exactly how Google killed them years ago.

Re:Yahoo learned nothing (1)

Marz_Bug (834367) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964064)

I agree. Can't stand the ads. Just want info about the stock and nothing else. I would really like to see what they do with beta 2.0. I wonder if they are going to add real time quotes.

Re:Quick. Clean. (1)

TheBeansprout (926731) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964023)

And a note about the Flash interface...nifty, but argh, it's Flash. I can't work this one out...Google 'good', Flash 'bad'...Google + Flash = ...? My head hurts :(

Here's a test. (1)

babbling (952366) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964097)

There's a good test to see whether a site is clean or just lacking features:

What do you want it to do that it doesn't already do?

Re:Quick. Clean. (4, Insightful)

hey! (33014) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964161)

It's not a bad way of doing things.

One thing Google learned from search is that people prefer simple. Provided an app does something useful, it's better in my view for it to start lacking some features than for it to drag useless, distracting, and poorly thought out features along for the rest of its natural lifespan. Let the users clamor for what they want, and cherry pick the low hanging fruit, repeating ad infinitum.

Take a look at stock page (4, Interesting)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963989)

Enter a stock and see the page that comes up. Despite the fact it uses Flash it is actually nicely implemented. Drag the viewing range of the stock around and you will see the associated news entries change to show what happened in those periods - nice!

Re:Quick. Clean. (1)

Uber Banker (655221) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964082)

Needs more features. Exactly. My wish list for a site:
  • Index data, not stock data. And not dodgy price return indices like the DJIA, but total return indices preferably MSCI Global series
  • Bond and property markets included in the index data, not only stock markets. Indiced quoted by maturity bucket and credit spread. Property indices quoted by total yield
  • Fundamental stock market index indices, such as a time series of P/Es, dividend yields, forward earnings, variation of earnings estimates
  • Commodity indices, including generic futures
  • Economic data such as inflation, RPIX, GDP, unemployment - somewhat slower moving but essential
  • The data of the last price on a quote. Markets are usually not 24 hours - so I would like to know the date of the mid price or last price quote. Returns over X months would be good too
  • Index volume and implied volatility data is essential.

Only after the above would I consider stock by stock data. Basics like understanding the economy, different ways to look at returns and prices, and fundamental stock data all are essential in part or in whole for any method of investment be it day trading, long term portfolio construction, technical trading, whatever. Without this basic data, having a stream of individual stock prices is next to worthless. So for now I'll stick to me Bloomberg computer, but from what I understand most of my wish list above is freely available data with a short delay (20 mins depending on exchange) - premium features of Bloomberg, Reuters or Datastream have far more depth.

Google is in Everything (1)

DarkNemesis618 (908703) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963863)

This is just another thing google is getting itself into. This could be good or bad, depending on how you want to think about it. It's good that they are trying to broaden their scope on the internet further. The bad is that if they continue to stretch into different fields, they could spread themselves out too thin and could have it backfire on them. IMHO, they're a good company and I trust their products and services for the most part.

Re:Google is in Everything (1)

babbling (952366) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964010)

How, exactly, could it backfire on them? As long as they remain the best in some fields (which they will in search), isn't it only good for them to stretch their legs out a bit and see what else they can do well?

Think of it in terms of the theory that if you go around bars asking for sex, you'll eventually get some.

Instead of Google being an unattractive slob, though, they're handsome and all the girls want to have sex with them. In other words, there are lots of people who want to use all the Google services they can. Google would be stupid not to oblige.

Re:Google is in Everything (1)

B3ryllium (571199) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964113)

"Think of it in terms of the theory that if you go around bars asking for sex, you'll eventually get some."

Only if you're good looking. If you're ugly, you'll get charged with sexual harassment. If only I had a link to that SNL skit :)

Re:Google is in Everything (2, Insightful)

eric_brissette (778634) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964200)

Google's in the business of making information easy to find/access. I would say this falls under that category.

Whew! (2, Interesting)

suso (153703) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963864)

For a second there I thought that Google had created some web application for people to track their personal expenses. That could be dangerous in a lot of ways.

Re:Whew! (3, Funny)

Bohiti (315707) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963976)

I thought the same thing (web application) but with a different impression ("Whew! Google's smart, maybe they can keep my checkbook balanced!")

Re:Whew! (1)

c_forq (924234) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964085)

Yeah, I was thinking Google was doing some sort of Quicken-like finance application, or a tax service (thought it was a little late to be releasing tax software though).

Re:Whew! (1)

justinhj (601309) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964115)

I would use it. I have some crazy misguided uber-trust for google. I already have so much personal information on my gmail account I dread to think what they could do with it if they really wanted to. Where does that trust come from? Maybe because I know that the company is 90% programmers?

Wrong Just Wrong (1)

bazmail (764941) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963867)

As far as finance goes, what the net needs is competition for Paypal. Not another news agregation site. A rare miss by google.

Re:Wrong Just Wrong (1)

offput (961196) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964028)

Yes because they've been so innovative in selecting their non-search engine services. With their e-mail service, mapping service, and purchasing any interesting technology they see... Google succeeds by putting a Google 'plain and functional' web 2.0 veneer on the ideas of others. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I like google's simple approach and use quite a few of their services that doesn't mean they are the sole (or even primary) innovators in the web right now.

I like! (4, Informative)

ggvaidya (747058) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963886)

"looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together."

Really? Check out their MSFT [google.com] page - it really is a lot better organised than Yahoo's [yahoo.com] . Once they support Singaporean stocks (they already have lots of information), I'm gonna be all over these guys.

Good job, Google!

Re:I like! (1)

Disavian (611780) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964045)

Actually, the page to be watching now is GOOG [google.com] . Pretty awesome layout, I think it's rather polished for an initial beta.

Re:I like! (4, Interesting)

tessaiga (697968) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964053)

Really? Check out their MSFT page - it really is a lot better organised than Yahoo's. Once they support Singaporean stocks (they already have lots of information), I'm gonna be all over these guys.
Have you ever actually used Yahoo Finance to do any in-depth analysis? The depth of information you can dig up from their site is astounding.

Want to know their daily historical prices [yahoo.com] going back to 1986? How about getting the percent of their float currently shorted [yahoo.com] as a gauge of bearishness on the stock? Or track insider trading [yahoo.com] as an indicator of management's confidence in their own company? Check the options chain [yahoo.com] for ways to hedge your positions or as a way of leveraging an investment in the stock? Yahoo provides all this and more.

At present Google Finance just gives you the thousand-mile overview and links you to other sites for anything more detailed. While this might improve in the future, at the moment the article summary's judgement on their scope is valid.

Where I do see an opportunity for Google Finance to one-up Yahoo is in their corporate news section. Yahoo mainly gets corporate news related to a company from news wires like Reuters or PR Newswire. As a result, a lot of smaller companies that analysts don't follow as closely have very few news stories associated with them. Of course, this same universe of small companies is where a diligent personal investor can uncover lots of value stocks overlooked by Wall Street. With their excellent Google News technology, this would be a great spot for Google to use their expertise at pulling in the latest news stories off all corners of the news world for all stocks, not just the big ones that are closely watched by the Street. That would certainly give me a reason to use their service to keep tabs on stocks I'm interested in following.

Re:I like! (2, Interesting)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964225)

Another thing I like to use on Yahoo is to pull Real-Time ECN info for several stocks at once, to keep tabs on a watchlist. I don't see similar functionality in the Google page. Try the following:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/cq?d=e&s=ge%2Ctsn%2CMO, goog,jnpr,tsai [yahoo.com]

Re:I like! (2, Interesting)

c_forq (924234) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964117)

Every page for a stock I have looked at is real sharp, especially the board members with pictures and descriptions on mouse-over. The news following the time line, and the ability to move the time line with the bar and by dragging is good thinking too. I also like how you can follow the line with the mouse, and it will show the time and value of where your cursor is. The stock pages seem very polished to me, it is only the main page that appears to be quickly thrown together in my view.

Re:I like! (1)

RalphLeon (856789) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964147)

to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.
Yea what is with that statement? The front page might look a little simple but if you actually use the search function, say for Apple [google.com] It is extreamly feature rich. It offers news, a company summary, and a little interactive explorer that lets you see the exact stock value on the graph. Methinks that this poster did not actually use the site...

Re:I like! (1)

RalphLeon (856789) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964176)

Actually if you play around with the bar on top of the graph it gives you the stock price over years and lets you zoom into any section. The site is definetly polished and extreamly interactive; "quickly hacked together" my buttox.

Plain? Don't talk nonsense (4, Interesting)

timster (32400) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963888)

Hey, the storied search engine has a plain starting screen too. Where this is cool is when you get into the detail page for individual stocks. Check out the price graph, which is much richer than what Yahoo has -- you can hover for the closing price on specific days, click and drag to move around in the history, and zoom however you like.

Re:Plain? Don't talk nonsense (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964008)

Hey, the storied search engine has a plain starting screen too.

But is it ugly [slashdot.org] ?

Depends on what you want ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14964179)

Generally I want the first page itself to contain all the recent quote I've looked up and details like that.

I rarely do a trackback on a particular share to get the price on a past date or time-frame. The monthlu fluctuations of the stock market are interesting, but not really a big concern for someone who is probably going to do a day trade.

Also there is the fact that Yahoo! offers real-time streaming quotes for premium paid users. And that group is going to decide where the money flows, not the average techie who can switch finance sites depending on what is cool this week.

Very limited. (1, Informative)

finnif (945981) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963889)

No stock news based on stocks in your portfolio... no real time quotes... no technical charting.. no options listings.

Besides a somewhat nifty chart -- which most pro sites have already gone far beyond -- this is not very noteworthy except that all things Google are news, right? I'd use Yahoo Finance to get information on Google's stock before I used Google Finance.

Re:Very limited. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14963930)

Forget all that; there isn't even a currency converter. Looks like I'll be sticking with Yahoo! then.

Re:Very limited. (1)

Tuzanor (125152) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963985)

No stock news based on stocks in your portfolio... no real time quotes... no technical charting.. no options listings.

No usless real time stock ticker (are you a speculator or investor?), links to more technical charting, links to options listings...

It's a brand new beta. Give it time for more advanced portfolio (i hope!) additions.

Re:Very limited. (0)

finnif (945981) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964044)

links to more technical charting, links to options listings... It's a brand new beta. Give it time for more advanced portfolio (i hope!) additions.

I'm not sure what software business you're in, but in the one I work for, "beta" means feature complete. If I wanted a link to another site with options listings, I might as well just go to Yahoo where they have options listings. I want better options listings. Google hasn't improved on anything here except using their patented Google CSS to display some stock information... and you guys are all going ga-ga over it.

No usless real time stock ticker (are you a speculator or investor?)

I'm both a speculator and an investor. A 15 or 20 minute delay makes a stock price useless -- especially if you were trading Google's stock. Like I said, I wouldn't use Google Finance for information on Google's stock. Without options or real time quotes, it's a good way to lose money.

Like another poster mentioned, I don't want to be logged into my broker's site all day, they'll kick me off after 20 minutes or so. Bottom line is, Google Finance is another throw away tool that Google's put out there and will soon stop developing. The 3 people who put it together will move onto something else soon, kind of like Google Ride Finder, Google Reader, Google Web Accelerator, even Google News, which is in 4 years of Beta.

Re:Very limited. (2, Informative)

moonty (704069) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964174)

Other products in the same class (free stock reports, essentially, right?) also have 15 or 20 minute delays, it's not a specific disadvantage to Google Finance.
Google Finance stock delays [google.com]
Yahoo Finance stock delays [yahoo.com]
MSN Money stock delays [msn.com]

Besides that, Google News left beta in January... doesn't seem they've stopped developing that, at the very least.

No OTC:BB (1)

everphilski (877346) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964025)

No over the counter bulletin board stocks. Wake me up when they support em :P

Re:Very limited. (1)

neildiamond (610251) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964137)

It's kind of sad that they're worse than bigcharts.com. Perhaps the flash graph is niftier than yahoo, but more useless than the old page.

I just noticed (5, Informative)

Genevish (93570) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963892)

I was just about to post a story about this. I went to pull up the info on a quote from my Google news page and saw the new format.

The main page may look plain, but the detail on a stock is beautiful:

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ig&q=AAPL [google.com]

The stock ticker is draggable, like Google Maps, and shows a marker for each news item (listed on the side). Also, as you scroll the ticker (by dragging it), the news items change to show items relevant to the timeframe displayed.

I'd say well done Google.

Re:I just noticed (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963924)

Curiously, although Google Maps is JavaScript, Google Finance uses Flash for its charting. How very YahooBetaMappy of them.

Re:I just noticed (1)

se7en11 (833841) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963939)

looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.

Yeah, that's no hack. It even shows press releases for big changes.

Now I just need to get some stocks... ;)

Re:I just noticed (1)

farker haiku (883529) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963943)

I was just about to post this comment. It's completely unlike the rest of the stock tickets out there, where you have to click on a specific date range to see the picture. How this draggable interface will be useful to someone who wants to track the history of a stock over the course of a year though is open to debate.

Re:I just noticed (1)

farker haiku (883529) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963965)

My bad, I didn't notice the zooming. This just became SWEET. A real improvement over existing finance charts.

Re:I just noticed (1)

nellardo (68657) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963981)

It isn't a pro-level tool by any stretch yet (five days of intraday data isn't much), but the way it automatically tracks what you've been doing (go back to the home page after searching for some stocks and see how it changes) is quite useful. And Google searches to find stock tickers - clearly it's tuned for that. E.g., "ms" gets you Morgan Stanley, not multiple sclerosis. Though doing a search for "ms" on Google's main page, Google Finance comes up at the top of the list.

Re:I just noticed (1)

Dan Hayes (212400) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964227)

Except for the one I develop which has all of this and a lot more (multiple stocks, multiple indicators, user-chosen frequencies, drawing tools etc etc) in a web page. Still, Google's chart is nice.

Re:I just noticed (2, Insightful)

mblase (200735) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964240)

The stock ticker is draggable, like Google Maps

Not quite like Google Maps; this stock chart is produced with Flash 8, not AJAX/DHTML/JS/whatever you want to call it.

Not a problem for me, or (I expect) for its target audience. Still, I think this is the first time Google has built something using Flash instead of AJAX, so it's notable just for that.

Uhhh.. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14963895)

Uhh...

Maybe if the submitter took a few steps beyond that first page, he'd see how mind-crushingly awesome this service is. I mean.. they made a crawler to actually get pictures of company officers?

Not to mention that their graphing software is really, really slick. Head and shoulders above Yahoo.

Hacked Together? (4, Insightful)

SWeinig (546725) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963905)

I would hardly call it 'hacked together', the graphing utility alone constitutes real UI thought.

Re:Hacked Together? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14964070)

Hmm... you mean ``For the ubercool interactive charts, you need to install the Macromedia Flash Player'' isn't what they wanted me to see?

Nothing to see here (3, Informative)

jfengel (409917) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963908)

Wow, that's just about nuthin'. The portfolio page asks for Stock, Amount, and Price, but not Trading Date (necessary to figure out annual yields). The resulting page doesn't list news for those companies, just the current stock price.

I use the Yahoo Finance page to track my portfolio. It's redundant with my actual brokerage page, but the brokerage is much more paranoid about automatically logging me out, so a simple check is often a pain. Fortunately, for me keeping the two in synch is easy because I trade only a few times a year.

Google's got a loooooong way to go before I abandon that. I have faith that they can, but for the moment I wouldn't call this Beta. Usually when Google calls something "Beta" it at least shows one cool thing. This is just a "me, too" page.

Has a long way to go to catch Yahoo! (1)

Golgafrinchan (777313) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963912)

Good:

- The scrollable graphical price history is pretty neat. You can also easily expand the time horizon. There isn't really a lot you can do with it, but I think it's a fun little toy.

- Important links to each company are included: news, employment opportunities, investor relations, etc. It's nice to have all of those links in one place.

Bad:

- If you're looking for a lot of real information about a company's finances, you'll still have to go elsewhere. A few financial ratios are reported on each company's page, but after those few, you have to click on "more ratios from Reuters." Also, Yahoo has a LOT more data on every company. Here's an example of what I mean: company data. [yahoo.com]

- No analyst opinion page, like Yahoo has. Here's an example of what I mean: analyst opinion. [yahoo.com] I think it can be helpful to see how covering analysts view a company.

- Historical price data on Google finance only goes back to 2001. This shouldn't be too difficult to fix in the future.

I expect Google will work on these soon, but they have a long way to go to catch up now.

Some nice features (4, Interesting)

RingDev (879105) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963913)

"seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together"

Yeah, in the same way google.com looks "quickly hacked together"

Just for fun I pulled up my 401k investments. The time line was nice, and the information was good. But I figured I'd check out the 401k's investment since I started investing in it. I clicked the 3yr link at the top of the chart and it made a pretty cool re-size effect, and the top bar changed too. Looks like you can click and drag either side of the total time line bar to change the zoom to any time period for the fund.

Pretty neat, and definitely not 'quickly hacked together'

-Rick

Google Fiance ? (1)

mkroska (35807) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963918)

Just for a moment I paused and thought about it: Google knows all, so why not? They seem to be dabbling in everything else, why not fiances?
.
Following typical Slashdot logic:
1. Find candidate
2. Find other interested, lonely people matched by search history
3 ???
4. Profit

--MK

Hacked?! (1)

fabu10u$ (839423) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963920)

looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together
I think not. Did you bother drilling down into the graphs?

same as Google (1)

dotpavan (829804) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963928)

the interface is good, though it is the same as typing "Goog" as google's search query [google.com] and the first result it returns is same as that got from Google finance [google.com] ,

They just separated a separate "finance" section by channeling queries and news to it. Maybe this and google wallet might work together and something big happens.

First Error??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14963933)

I was checking the details of "Wipro Limited (ADR)"

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=wipro&btnG=Sea rch&hl=en [google.com]

Which states
Vivek Paul > Vice Chairman of the Board

Which is no longer true! Vivek Paul left Wipro some time back.

Re:First Error??? (4, Interesting)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963959)

That's probably because Google thinks its own index knows more about companies than folks like Hoovers do. Most search results for "wipro vivek paul" suggest that Paul is still with the company [google.com] .

Google's search engine falls short in other ways, too. They think my employer is still at the same office it was at three years ago, for example, because all the copycat linkfarm sites they index say so.

Just In: Google merely collects other data! (0, Troll)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963941)

So the comment is that its a sparse site, composed of data collected and aggregated from other sites? My God! What is Google thinking! Oh wait, thats what they do, and are pretty successful at it. Think about it - in your Gmail screen, theres a little bare-bones stock price ticker, or just summary of the prices for the day... that's what Google's doing - they want to be your portal.

Except they so far have kept the interface cool, ads to a minimum, and the functionality high.

too plain (1)

szembek (948327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963969)

It seems like this submitter has a problem with Google going into the post with remarks on how it looks "too plain" and "quickly hacked together". If by too plain the author means "simple and clean like most people like it" than I'd agree. I'm sure this wasn't the only article slashdot received on this since topic since it's been linked to on google.com all morning. I've got to wonder why this one made the site. I was going to write in about it, but figured it was non-news.

Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... (5, Informative)

MoofOntario (937100) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963974)

Add CM to my portfolio....

hmm.. "Could not find the requested symbol"

Right, and no symbol search for the noobs.. that's going to be convenient. Oh well, try Adding CM.TO instead.

"We will support international symbols soon"

Right. Then maybe I'll give it a try "soon". Back to yahoo for me. (Add this to the other complaints people are having)

-Moof

Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964109)

It's a beta. Check back in 2009 when version 1.0 is released.

Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14964123)

Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... (1)

mph (7675) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964131)

"We will support international symbols soon"
Heck, forget international symbols. I'd just like to figure out their syntax for "B" shares of Berkshire Hathaway (usually BRK/B, BRK.B, or BRK-B).

Re:Not replacing Yahoo Finance yet... (1)

MoofOntario (937100) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964204)

Hey, good point! I searched for Berkshire, it turned up the class A shares as "BRK.A". I was able to add that to my portfolio fine. However, adding BRK.B gives me the old can't find symbol. Perhaps I'll check in again in 2009 like another poster in this thread suggests.

-Moof

Google Finance Info (1)

VeryHotTopic (954703) | more than 8 years ago | (#14963995)

Google is good at bringing info together. The links to many different sites in this case will work. All in all you'll get a less biased view.

Bah! No message boards ... (3, Funny)

Average_Joe_Sixpack (534373) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964006)

How am I supposed to pump and dump? bash and stash?

plain and hacked together? (2, Insightful)

tvon (169105) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964035)

Would you prefer if there were obfuscated controls and banner ads?

Do you want to go ahead and quickly hack up a page like this:

http://finance.google.com/finance?cid=16701613 [google.com]

?

Google thrives on the simple and powerful interfaces they create. It's half of what got them where they are today.

Do you trust Google with finance information? (1)

Pennywisdom2099 (896069) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964040)

I would think with Google's track record of recording and storing anything and everything they come across that people would be less than willing to provide them with your bank account information as well as all of the stock investments you have made. They're great, don't get me wrong I use them every day, but I don't trust them to index my entire hard drive and I certainly don't trust them with all my investment information.

Re:Do you trust Google with finance information? (1)

filterban (916724) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964132)

I would think with Google's track record of recording and storing anything and everything they come across that people would be less than willing to provide them with your bank account information as well as all of the stock investments you have made.

At least Google has a backbone when they are asked to hand this information over to the authorities. It seems to me like they understand what's at stake. All of the search engines have this data; Google is no different. MSN handed it over blindly - would you rather let them have your personal info than Google?

Also, you don't enter your bank account info. All you're entering is which stock tickers you want to track and how much of each you have, so that you can know how much $$ you've been making or losing.

Overall, it could use some more features, but it's pretty slick if you ask me.

Real time quotes (1)

DrXym (126579) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964046)

I thought you had to pay a lot of money per user to display realtime quotes. Is Google really doing that, or are we about to seem them get slapped by the NYSE & Nasdaq?

eww Flash (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14964062)


why not make the whole site Flash if you are going to base the (very important) charts on it
i was looking forward to some more DHTML enhancement with static images (eg. maps.google), instead we get a slow, plugin based site, and as Macromedia Flash is banned in a lot of companies who exactly is the target market ?
seems like others said, this was just hacked together, there are numerous flash charting components but i dot see them on Forbes,FinancialTimes,Yahoo, and just about any business orientated site why do you think that is ? if Flash was really the right tool we would see them everywhere by now

keep it clean

Nice.... (1)

j3one (949806) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964068)

mmm, this is very interesting...

So, if I am logged in does it keep track of what stocks I watch? As a fun experiment I am currently investing in middle east ventures and companies as well as searching for random things like "plane", "bomb", "how_to_blow_up_usa", "nuculear_weapon_wholesale".... As well as using my gmail and email to send messages containing terms like, "praise allah" and "strike tonight!!". I leave my google toolbar open full throttle and use all the google apps, just to increase odds. Its nice to have another tool!

(just kidding about all that), but seriously... Take it from me, we should be watchdoging google AND the government here. I have to admit, if I was in the government and it was my job to protect the US, I would want to be a sneaky little twerp and spy on people... BUT, last time I checked we were supposed to be living in a democracy. I don't think its like the old days where we can do what the pilgrims ended up doing with England... I mean, they may not take Arkansas and Las Angelas, but the rest of the usa is severely under weapons if our government turns away from democracy. One tool they ARE behind on is the internet, but they are working hard to close the gap. I fear though, other countries and private corporations are far ahead in some aspects of internet espionage...

Oh, but about the new service... cool beans! Google freakin wrocks!

Did anybody actually look at the site? (1)

ibjhb (173533) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964102)

Take a look at:

http://finance.google.com/finance?q=goog&btnG=Sear ch [google.com]

Seems to me, they have some cool features that the other finance sites are lacking. I, personally, really like the site!

Whatever for now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14964114)

Some of you just stay on Google's nuts... Is this site really that serious yet? No! Sure it has potential but Yahoo is much further along so think before you worship Google just because they're Google.

No company is perfect and this site has shown nothing so far to convince me otherwise. Down the road, maybe. But for now I'm not going to allow let Google bust a nut on my face as they're doing with some of you "Google Groupies" out there.

Plain? Are you kidding? (4, Informative)

Pedrito (94783) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964129)

The site finance.google.com seems to be too plain and looks suspiciously like something quickly hacked together.

Obviously you didn't get past the first page which is thankfully as close to plain as it can be. Here's one very good argument for having a very plain front page: It loads fast. Then you get where you really want to be faster.

Even on the main page there's some technically cool stuff. Hover over the market indexes and the graph changes to the one you're hovering over. They've got that in a few places. Go to the main page for a ticker and hover over individuals listed in Management and it gives you more info. In fact, if you do it on the GOOG ticker, it even shows pictures in the pop-up.

Trying hovering over the graph and it gives you data specific to the day or time that you're hovering over in the upper right. You can scroll the graphs to look back in history instead of having to change the time periods. You can select a fixed time period like Yahoo, or you can drag the start and end of the time period for the graph. This is some cool stuff.

Now, when you call it "plain", what are you comparing it to? Yahoo? Because Yahoo isn't anywhere near this tricked-out. As for the data, it doesn't appear to be any more out of date than Yahoo's data. It has the real time ECN just like Yahoo and the rest of the market data is probably 15-20 minutes delayed just like every other free financial site on the web.

Personally, my first impression is that it's exceptionally well designed. It's a great first cut and barring any major disasters, I suspect I'll switch over to it from Yahoo Finance.

par for the course (1)

mvnicosia (937268) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964130)

Google always gets products out in early forms and then updates them. That's their mantra. It will come together more...

What's next? (1)

hcdejong (561314) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964136)

Those obnoxious stock symbol links (AAPL) everywhere in Google News stories, then in all search results?

funny disclaimer (1)

groovy.ambuj (870307) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964141)

Stock Quotes Disclaimer You agree not to copy, modify, reformat, __download__, store, reproduce, reprocess or redistribute any data or information found herein or use any such data or.... how can i view data w/o downloading on my comp at least in memory? :-)

Boy, these guys really have it in for Google! (1)

Nexus7 (2919) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964165)

Quote (allegedly from Forbes article):
"and that the information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions. "

This stinks of scraping the botton of the barrel to find something bad to say about Google. Unless you have direct exchange feeds and are in constant direct contact with officers in all the listed firms, you're always getting information collected from various sources, whether you're Yahoo or Google or some guy at Starbucks.

As to use for "buy & sell" decisions, that comment smacks of the contempt that firms like Forbes have for consumers. They have one type of trade in mind, where you use information fresh from analysts who are plugged into a stock, and call the correct time to buy exactly. In reality, very few trades hinge on the few minutes or even hours that secondary news sources take to publish the news from primary sources. Exceptions might be IPOs (which are hard to get into for other reasons anyway), really bad news for a stock (in which case panic selling or even trading being halted by the exchange would be bigger factors), and intraday or tick-based selling (for which sources like Forbes, or Yahoo, or Google aren't even relevant anyway, since you need a live tick feed from someone like Thomson or Reuters).

how about google fiance? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14964178)

A dating service!

Long term view (2, Interesting)

caudron (466327) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964180)

The information is collected from various sources rather than a direct feed from the stock exchanges, making it probably less useful for buy & sell decisions.

Yes, but the nature of the data collected and the way in which it is presented (the clear connection between event and price change and other things) makes it quite useful for planning investment strategy for a given company.

As with any such site, more research would have to be done for a given long term investment, but this does make a great starting place for that research. That is the great benefit to being the aggregator rather than the source. They pull together a lot of data from some other great sources and put it together in a way that makes the whole better, in some ways, than the sum of the parts. (C.f., Google News for another example)

At risk of sounding like a GOOG fanboy, they've batted another home run. We get a solid resource for long term investment, and they get access to our portfolios. Everyone wins (excepting the privacy concerns that are a legitimate tangent to nearly every google story).

Tom Caudron
http://tom.digitalelite.com/ [digitalelite.com]

Google's Golden Days Gone? (1)

Hellboy0101 (680494) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964193)

Am I the only one who thinks that Google's true innovation has slipped? Most of the new stuff Google is rolling out is already being done by someone else (you can argue until you're blue in the face as to whether or not they are doing it better than everyone else). Their search engine was revolutionary, but this seems too evolutionary for the kind of talent they have. Come on Google, blow us away like you used to.

not like their G drive? (1)

speculatrix (678524) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964202)

before I RTFA'd I thought it might be a currency version of the G drive - just upload all your money to Google for safe keeping, where they will index all the serial numbers, and you can get to download it whenever you need it. And when the government come to ask for it, they will refuse as much as possible!

try this (1)

jgold03 (811521) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964231)

Try this: look at some stocks, and then check the main page

It added the recently viewed quotes to your main page and started to aggregate articles based on those stocks. Pretty nifty.

Financial information from WHAT? (0)

slavemowgli (585321) | more than 8 years ago | (#14964236)

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not sure I'd trust financial information from a site called "fool.com" of all things.
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