New Mobile GeForce Go Graphics 94
Brent Kupras writes "NVIDIA just launched a whole bunch of GeForce Go 7xxx graphics cards for notebooks. There is a Go 7900 GTX, a Go 7900 GS, a Go 7600 and a Go 7300. The GTX version looks like just a faster copy of the old Go 7800 GTX. There are also a few benchmark results of these new chips against the older NVIDIA chips and ATI's chips."
Enough power to run Aero Glass (Score:4, Insightful)
This is great, though. With the new Core Duo laptops and killer mobile chipsets, I'm finally seriously consider getting a laptop and dumping the desktop (more like deskunder, but whatever) all together.
Re:Enough power to run Aero Glass (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Enough power to run Aero Glass (Score:1)
The biggest problem that I have with laptops - and the one that's not getting solved any time soon - is the ability to be easily upgradable. It's just not there yet, because there's no r
Re:Enough power to run Aero Glass (Score:1)
i just wanna get the totl model to install in my state of the art RH7.2 gaming machine
oh boy.. the fun i am gonna have!!!
Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:5, Insightful)
Aero Glass requires a DirectX 9 class GPU that supports Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM). Low-end mobile GPUs that meet this requirement include GeForceFX Go5100, Mobility Radeon 9500/X300, and Intel GMA 950. Even GMA 900 (which a lot of current Centrino users have) should work if they write WDDM drivers for it, but I doubt they will.
Here's some links for those who want to see the Aero Glass mobile GPU requirements:
BTW, the "Vista Basic user experience" (formerly known as "Aero Basic") does not look like Windows XP (the GPU requirements will be similar to XP). In fact, I think many users will prefer this interface to Aero Glass. Here's some screenshots:
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:2, Interesting)
So no, I really wasn't joking. Based upon some metrics I've gotten, and a demo I was given, I stand by my original statement.
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:2, Informative)
Vista is still in beta, though. When Vista is complete, I'd be really surprised if a GeForce Go 6200 with enough RAM couldn't run Aero Glass with acceptable performance.
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:1)
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:2)
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:2)
Apparently I don't exist.
My FX 5200 does an acceptable job of everything I throw at it.
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:1)
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:2)
Of course since then I've upgraded to a 7800 GTX, but I digress. (The time gap is due to the 6800GT I had for a while between the two)
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:2)
What the hell have they done to Minesweeper?
Re:Kidding? Way more than enough for Aero Glass (Score:2)
Re:Enough power to run Aero Glass (Score:1)
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Re:Enough power (GPU always at 100%?) (Score:2)
Re:Enough power to run Aero Glass (Score:2)
THESE cards ARE from the Jurassic Age.... (Score:1)
from fastest to worst (and yes, i've seen many rage II systems)
the Radeon 9000 and up
can work much faster if the
CPU is faster than 1GHz:
=GEFORCE
Re:THESE cards ARE from the Jurassic Age.... (Score:1)
Re:Go 7800 GTX is hardly old (Score:1)
anything older then 2 versions is considered jurrasic, anything over 3 is ancient and anything over that is completly obsolete...to bad developers don't get that little factoid, their bastards for actually caring about budget gamers and ones who don't rush out to upgrade their systems.
CURSE THEM I SAY!!!
yes that part about developers was a joke, I was shocked to see I can run Half-Life 2 on almost high settings with my Radeon all in wonder 9200.
Dell's Latitude Line (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Dell's Latitude Line (Score:2)
Long story short, ATI + Linux is not a viable solution unless you enjoy hi
Drivers (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Drivers (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Drivers (Score:1)
Re:Drivers (Score:2, Informative)
You can get a preformatted inf file here [guru3d.com].
If you want to do it yourself, in windows go into device manager and view the properties of your video card. Then go into the details tab and select hardware ids in the dropdown list. You can then use the last value displayed and add it among the other hardware id's in the nv4_disp.inf file. For most unrecognized ca
You're totally missing the point man. (Score:2)
Re:You're totally missing the point man. (Score:1)
There's nothing new in the current drivers that will do ANYTHING for cards that aren't on the official list. 70 Series Forceware drivers are the best for those OUTDATED cards, because the new features for CURRENT cards don't apply. You're not going to get those features for free. The OUTDATED card doesn't have the hardware to support it.
The text override is there so that ANAL RETENTIVE FUCKWITS like yourself can force the new driver to run on the old hardware (at a lower performance leve
Re:You're totally missing the point man. (Score:1)
Re:Drivers (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Drivers (Score:1)
Re:Drivers (Score:2)
Re:Drivers (Score:2)
Re:Drivers (Score:1)
You don't need to upgrade drivers just because there's a newer version. You know that, right?
In all likelyhood there is nothing in the newer driver that has anything at
all to do with your 4+ year old graphics card, so you don't need to load the new version.
If you really WANT to, there's a method (referenced elsewhere in this thread) but it's likely not going to do anythign positive for your performance.
Re:Drivers (Score:2)
ubuntu (Score:1)
Re:ubuntu (Score:1, Funny)
(codenamed 'fluffy-muffburger')
Re:ubuntu (Score:1)
Re:define "driver" (Score:2)
Re:define "driver" (Score:3, Insightful)
And for the "business-friendly" thing, the GPL really is the best suited business-oriented open source license, because if you don't force modifications to be made public like most other licenses, companies will use this as a chance to ge
Re:define "driver" (Score:2)
I'm sorry, I don't understand why you say that. Can you explain what you mean?
Re:define "driver" (Score:2)
It's not the "GPL's fucked up definition". It's the legal definition that matters. The GPL just says it applies to derivative works - it probably varies from country to country whether the modules count, and may well be unclear - most co
Re:define "driver" (Score:2)
That's retarded. Look at the multitude of open source wireless drivers. Look at every single ATI video card before r300 (and even r300 is getting some support now). Video and wireless drivers can be just as open source as the rest of the system, just the manufacturers of the
Re:define "driver" (Score:2)
As for wireless, the FCC requires that 802.11g wireless drivers can't be modified. It's not the manufacturers' fault they can't open them. Yes, Broadcom sucks for not providing any support at all, but that's another issue. OTOH Intel does provide closed Linux drivers for their wireless hardware. I
Re:define "driver" (Score:2)
Re:define "driver" (Score:2)
Anyone that uses anything other than nvidia and expects a stable, high performance solution, are either uninformed or just plain stupid. Nvidia has b
Re:ubuntu (Score:1)
Availibility (Score:1)
There's also a German company Wortmann [wortmann.de] that makes a much more affordable notebook at around 1000 Euros. Looks like we're holding our breath for a few months or calling up friends and relatives abroud to get them for now.
No desktop comparos? (Score:4, Insightful)
Those SLI results are quite impressive, almost double speedup. I have to wonder if a laptop might make a decent gaming rig. I could even put up with short battery life for gaming, so long as battery life for simple word processing / movie watching was decent.
Re:No desktop comparos? (Score:2)
Re:Why no top games for Linux? (Score:2)
Slightly OT (Score:1, Offtopic)
It's cool that they're rolling out mobile GeForce chips, but they going to jack the laptop price all the way to the moon?
Re:Slightly OT (Score:2)
Which idiot modded this off-topic? (Score:1, Flamebait)
Re:Which idiot modded this off-topic? (Score:2)
Re:Which idiot modded this off-topic? (Score:2)
And....then a year later they come out with... (Score:1)
External Graphics Cards? (Score:4, Insightful)
My other option is to buy one of those desktop replacement mammoths (which, oddly, some people still call notebooks). But it is a completely ridiculous solution. I like the mobility, convenience, integration I get from my ultraportable notebook. It is definitely a step in the right direction. It is the future. Agreed, but I simply cannot give up PC gaming.
I have a usb hub which is connected to my external hard disk (300 gb), external dvd burner, optical mouse, and 7.1 speakers via audigy 2. I really use all that only when I am on my desk, at home. Why can't I also have an external graphics card (with its own power supply and cooling solution), that I can connect to when I am in a mood for some serious gaming?
I would happily pay $300-400 for an external graphics card (USB or otherwise), that I can upgrade at will and use with my other computers. Is it technically impossible to do something like this? Or is it one of those things where all the companies have mutually agreed upon to keep screwing the unsuspecting consumers.
Please don't tell me I need a desktop. I like the notebook mobility, and do not see a point in paying for another set of software and OS licenses for a gaming desktop.
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:3, Informative)
Nothing is technically impossible to do really, it's always a matter of time. But at the moment it's not likely because of transfer-speeds.
Have you noticed the difference between SHARED memory and ONBOARD memory? Those laptops with onboard memory are WAY faster at handling 3D because the 3D card itself can acces
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:2)
Only if you're talking about onboard video decoding (which only works with select few codecs, and doesn't allow for any sort of processing). Sending 30fps uncompressed 1920x1080 over USB2/Cardbus would be a show-stopper.
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:2)
No such luck! A 2.5" harddrive doesnt get very hot, but a 3d-graphics card however - gets incredibly hot, especially an ATI 9600 Radeon. Ok, it's an mobile edition, but it gets f
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:2)
Read most of your EULAs. Many of them will say you can install it on one computer AND one portable computer. That cuts out some of your extra licenses.
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:1)
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:1, Interesting)
I don't know if USB has enough bandwidth for the input stream, but for output you'd probably need something like a DVI input on the laptop (which would be kinda cool anyway, but take extra space).
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:1)
Re:External Graphics Cards? (Score:2)
Hope that cleared that up!
which benchmarks to believe? (Score:2, Interesting)
This article [hexus.net] shows the mobile x1800 with a slight lead. What gives? What's different between 3dMark05 and 3dMark06, and what does it mean in for real games? They're all pretty nice cards and would be great for a gaming laptop... now if only I could find one with a core duo and a 15" screen instead of all those 17" monsters.
Anyone have any more benchmarks or knowledge to contribute?
Except - it's not actually released (Score:1)
Should have been released March 22, but has since been delayed. No one has said for how long.
I want a Turion + NVidia + Linux laptop (Score:1)
Re:I want a Turion + NVidia + Linux laptop (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5970.html [infosyncworld.com]
its a bit old, but it runs debian like a breeze.
Re:I want a Turion + NVidia + Linux laptop (Score:2)
I've been eyeing that sucker for a while now...but always worry about performance. How well does the GPU perform? Good enough to play games like America's Army? How long does the battery last for you? I would love to see a good Linux user's report with this laptop! Care to share?
For those that
Re:I want a Turion + NVidia + Linux laptop (Score:2)
As for the acpid issues, theyre all fixed with the newer 2.6.15 kernels upward.
The gpu is aboslutely GREAT, matter of fact, i can get more fps out of half life 2 on wine than on my desktop.
battery life ranges from 2 hours and at max 3 (depending on brightness, sound and what you use it for.
I have yet to test the irda or the card reader.
wifi works with the native bcm43xx kernel module or ndiswrapper.
its perfect.
Re:I want a Turion + NVidia + Linux laptop (Score:2)
Re:I want a Turion + NVidia + Linux laptop (Score:2)
the A6k is unavailable in the US, as far as i can tell, and vendors with the Z92km are few, far between, and don't stock it.
i've been looking for something like this myself, and although the Z92km is the only thing i can actually find, i'd really prefer something smaller - like 14" or so.
is there anything else on the US market, or am i stuck with building a Z92km myself?
Where are the notebooks? (Score:2)