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Amanda 2.5 Released

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the better-ways-to-stash-your-goods dept.

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Anonymous Coward writes to tell us that a new release of the popular open source backup tool Amanda is now available fixing many of the limitations of previous versions. From the release: "Overall the focus of the release is on security of the backup process & backed up data, scalability of the backup process and ease of installation & configuration of Amanda."

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Nice... (1, Funny)

corychristison (951993) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999695)

... I've been looking for something like this. Thank you Slashdot. :-)

Re:Nice... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999709)

Cory,

Shove your head up your mother nasty twat, and you find something else you've been looking for - your pet hamster.

Better get a flashlight...

Re:Nice... (1)

jrockway (229604) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000118)

I'm amazed that the tag "whocares" made it to the front page.

Re:Nice... (1)

Eil (82413) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000275)

We should counter it with the "icare" tag. :)

Re:Nice... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000495)

Shut the fuck up, homo. You should be tagged and bagged for the grave for your moronic comment.

Suck my B====D, bitch lips.

Re:Nice... (1)

Xymor (943922) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000500)

iCare sounds like the new medical assistent/digital media player from apple.
Now you can diagnostic your patients while listening to Black Sabath and catching up to Lost.

OT: Tags (1)

iced_773 (857608) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000367)


Why is it I can't read tags? Do I need to be a subscriber?

Re:OT: Tags (1)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000380)

I dunno, but I can't read them either. Maybe we got downmodded too often.

Re:OT: Tags (1)

iced_773 (857608) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000403)


But if the trolls could submit "whocares" tags, then downmodding must not matter.

Re:OT: Tags (1)

pomo monster (873962) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000439)

Yeah. Because clearly, only a troll would submit a tag like "whocares."

Cooory Boyeee (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000462)

You find that hamster yet? Get back to me, bitch, ASAP!

Re:Cooory Boyeee (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000540)

Woah... someone has issues.

Boston Returns! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999701)

Go Bradley!

YANKEES SUCK!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999706)

YANKEES SUCK!!!

Johnny Damon is a traitor!

What a co-incidence! (5, Funny)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999726)

In high school, Amanda was always my backup too!

Ahh, fun times.

Re:What a co-incidence! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999757)

It is not nice to call your sister your backup.

Re:What a co-incidence! (0)

Mistlefoot (636417) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999817)

And what did you give your regular hand?

Re:What a co-incidence! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999824)

You can check out a picture of Amanda here:
http://www.realdoll.com/dolls.asp [realdoll.com]

Re:What a co-incidence! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000405)

http://www.realdoll.com/dolls.asp I guess doing something like that might be a similar experience as being a necrophiliac.

Mind you, they might move more than some ex-girlfriends I've had... and they were alive... and human... and female... fucking slashdot crowd, you can't let you're guard down.

Re:What a co-incidence! (1)

Elitist_Phoenix (808424) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999825)

In high school, Amanda was always my backup too!
How many pictures did you have?

Re:What a co-incidence! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999907)

In high school, Amanda was always my backup too!

Was Amanda's last name Hugankiss?

Re:What a co-incidence! (2, Funny)

Beryllium Sphere(tm) (193358) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999969)

Couldn't help but notice that the body of the post was
>Amanda was always my backup
and the signature was
>Your wife just won't understand

thanks amanda (2, Informative)

xiaomai (904921) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999732)

i've been using amanda at work for the past year now and it's been wonderful. thanks to all the developer's out there who work so hard (the mailing list rocks too).

Re:thanks amanda (5, Funny)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999795)

i've been using amanda at work for the past year now and it's been wonderful.
Sure it seems wonderful now, but work relationships can cause a lot of trouble. I mean, sooner or later she's going to realize you're just using her and then what?

Three drinks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999975)

i've been using amanda at work for the past year now and it's been wonderful.

She's very accessible at the company parties. Three drinks and she works wonders...

Re:thanks amanda (1)

itwerx (165526) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000160)

Why is the parent scored Flamebait...?

Re:thanks amanda (1)

lakeland (218447) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000213)

Because there isn't a moderation category 'joke-bait'

Re:thanks amanda (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000334)

why the hell the parent is moderated as flamebait? Are you completely braindead?????

gosh, retarded people are moderating

Dev code name: "HugNKiss" (2, Funny)

LiftOp (637065) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999734)

Well, it should've been, anyhow.

Re:Dev code name: "HugNKiss" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999885)

Actually, most programmers name their projects after things they will never have. Other possible names for the project were "A Life", "Communication Skills", "Job Security", "Sense Of Humor" and "Low Cholestrol". ZING! :)

Great software (2, Interesting)

jpalit (776862) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999753)

I love and trust Amanda to do all my backup. Thanks for the new release...

Re:Great software (2, Interesting)

stanbrown (724448) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999765)

Indeed, I've been using it at work, and at home for about 5 years now. It has saved me more times than I can count!!

But why is this listed under Linux?

Re:Great software (0, Offtopic)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000018)

What's wrong with a woman?

Re:Great software (1)

stuuf (587464) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000128)

So you're saying all your backup are belong to Amanda?

Re:Great software (1, Insightful)

outsider007 (115534) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000281)

Is anyone else finding this article hard to masturbate to?

Re:Great software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000538)

Not I.

I don't - you have to wonder about them. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000359)

Well, this might be a great product. Unfortunately, their download page is broken. This is using Firefox on Fedora. You'd think that would at least work.

Perhaps they require cookies or javascript; but either way, it's a sign of a clueless webmaster.

Any company that can't get the basic download operation to work from their webpage is someone you have to really wonder about. What are they targeting? Windows? Feh. And this is when they're trying to appear to the Linux crowd?

Sorry to diss these guys, but when they don't have the basics down, you have to wonder about the rest of the code. Granted, a clueless webmaster may not equate to the code developers. But it is a sign of bad management.

Works great with older setups & configs (4, Informative)

Almost-Retired (637760) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999763)

I've been running it for 4 nights now, replaceing the previous 2.4.5 version I've been running for quite some time, and its working just like the 2.4.5 version it replaced. So if you are worried about the upgrade breaking something, if it worked with your old configs, it should Just Work(TM) with the new version too. I used the same config/build script I've been useing for years to build and install it.

Newbies, please goto amanda.org or zmanda.org and read the top ten FAQ there, it will save you many headaches in getting it setup. To make it work, and work well, may require a re-thinking of how you think a backup should be done. Once setup its a background process you get nightly emails from, but requires little or no hand-holding on a daily basis other than making sure the tape needed is in the drive for tonights run. vtape users (where the tape images are kept on a humongous hard drive) don't even have to deal with that, the best of both worlds IMO. I've been doing that for about 18 months or more here at the coyote.den, my private domains name.

And I highly recommend subscribing to the amanda-user mailing list, details on amanda.org, where you can ask for help and get it from more knowledgable people than I, although you will find me there too. 10 messages is a busy day so it won't eat your lunch.

--
Cheers, Gene

Re:Works great with older setups & configs (1)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000153)

I've been using it for close to 10 years and it needs very little care-and-feeding. The spanning will be nice. Glad to hear your having success with it.

Re:Works great with older setups & configs (2, Interesting)

Almost-Retired (637760) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000386)

In fact I have about a 7 year history with amanda. Having worn out 4 of those 4 tape seagate changers & a couple of regular DDS2 drives, I've come to the conclusion that disks, having much more development money behind them, have indeed now exceeded the utility of tapes when I can buy a disk that lasts several years, possibly a decade, for 10% or less the cost per gigabyte of an equivalent tape drive and its backup medium. But thats just my opinion, the opinion of an old man these days as I'm now 71. So while I've been there, and done an awfull lot of that, the youngsters tend to discount that experience, prefering to get their own experiences. Oh, well. As has been said many many times, history will repeat itself.

--
Cheers, Gene.

Great work for a great software (1)

submttkl (963744) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999768)

Its amazing how this simple to use software makes sysadmin work so easy. Thanks goes to the Amanda development community.

spanning (1)

npietraniec (519210) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999774)

Does it support spanning archives across tapes yet? I used amanda a lot about 4 years ago and was amazed that it didn't support such a simple function.

Yes! Tape Spanning! (4, Informative)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999786)

Yes, it supports tape spanning. It also supports compression and encryption of your choice (so you should be able to use star instead of gtar & bzip2 rather than gzip). These are the most frequently requested features, so this is really a good release!

How long until DVD spanning? (1)

lakeland (218447) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000167)

I would much rather back up to DVD than tapes, and while various backup programs support this I have yet to find one that will cope if I want to back up more than 4.4GB.

I don't want anything fancy - just full and incremental backup. Yet every product seems to be designed either for single users backing up key documents to a single CD, or for enterprise users backing up terabytes of documents to expensive tape drives!

Mondo Rescue (2, Interesting)

gosquad (122364) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000251)

I know that Mondo Rescue supports spanning over discs of any size. It also supports differential backups. I personally use it for nightly backups. Setup is simple via command line switches, and restoring is done via a curses-based tool on the bootable iso. http://mondorescue.org/about.shtml [mondorescue.org]

Re:How long until DVD spanning? (1)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000542)

DVDs are REALLY lousy for enterprise backup (but the price and availability may make it attractive to home users). AMANDA has been used to write to CDR(W)s and DVD+/-R(W) (using the dvd+rw-tools). I don't know if such projects have benefited from tape spanning, but it shouldn't be "too long." That being said, one machine backups to DVD may have easier options...

Re:spanning (1)

mgibbs (548224) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999792)

From the release notes:
Dump images spanning multiple media volumes:
This major step forward alleviates Amanda's most significant limitation. The size of the backed up images is no longer restricted to a single media volume but may now span over several volumes. This gets rid of the need of the administrator to artificially segment their data into parts which can fit into a single media volume (as required in prior versions of Amanda).

BackupPC is also good (5, Informative)

HappyCamp (707842) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999776)

Nothing against Amanda, but I switched from using Amanda to going to BackupPC. http://backuppc.sf.net/ [sf.net]

What I really like about BackupPC is the Disk based backup focus of it. It does NOT support tape drives. But for doing backups to hard drives it is great. And with the way it will only keep one copy of a file, no matter how many systems it is on really helps to minimize disk space usage. Example: You have /bin/ls on five of your linux boxes that all run the same distribution. It will only store one copy of /bin/ls on the backup server and use hardlinks to keep track of all the other copies. Plus it compresses the files.

Great stuff!

Re:BackupPC is also good (2, Informative)

jpalit (776862) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999796)

I use Amanda to backup to disks, and am quite happy with it. Doesn't do the single instance store like you mention, but is very stable and zippy.

Re:BackupPC is also good (1)

JayAEU (33022) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000348)

Indeed, BackupPC is really a jewel! I have already set it up at a number of sites and it really works like a charm. Best of all, it's much easier to configure and there is no need to install any client software on the computers being backed up.

Efficient on-disk storage is where BackupPC really shines. On average and over time, the backup pool will contain 10 times it's physical storage, thanks to compression and pooling across multiple clients.

As for drawbacks, BackupPC does not play well if your main focus is doing regular tape backups.

Re:BackupPC is also good (1)

compwizrd (166184) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000645)

actually, backuppc can be used to backup to tape as well. BackupPC_archiveHost if i remember right.. and you can point that to a tape drive or write a .tar.gz and then put it on tape... it won't do the hardlinks like a regular backuppc link will, but it's perfect for writing nightly backups to be taken offsite, if your tape drive is large enough.

Does it still use UDP for control? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999798)

The biggest thing I have problems with using Amanda is the need for a clean IP path to the destination, so I can't run a backup through a proxy firewall. Does the new version still use UDP for control?

Re:Does it still use UDP for control? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000010)

Take a look at http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Firewalls_%26_NAT [zmanda.com]
Amanda conntrack module will also help in firewall configuration.

conntrack will only stick you with cleartext (1)

bigtrike (904535) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000509)

That's kind of sucky because then you're streaming your very important data across the internet in cleartext. You might be able to get connection tracking to route through a VPN, but I assume that would require an iptables firewall on both ends of the connection.

Our interim solution has been to rsync (over ssh) all remote data to the local disk on the tape backup server and then back that up. It's not the best thing at all, but it works. Ideally we'll stop using amanda entirely at some point and switch to afbackup which seems to not have these issues.

AMANDA 2.5 supports Encryption (1)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000572)

From the NEWS:
  1. Communication security/authentication: Kerberos 4/5, OpenSSH
  2. Data security: Symmetric/Assymetric encrytion algorithms (aesutil and gpg encryption), Encryption can be done on server or client, Custom encryption utilities can be used.

Tagging (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999799)

I have to say that I really like this new tagging system. "whocares" is an absolutely terrific tag for this article.

Re:Tagging (1)

slyborg (524607) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000499)

You do my friend. That's why you made the effort to post, and post anonymously, because you clearly care that people will know you for a troll. But why? Embrace your identity. You are what you are, revel in it!

How does it compare to Bacula? (3, Interesting)

leereyno (32197) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999813)

How does this new version compare to Bacula (http://www.bacula.org/ [bacula.org] )?

The thing I like about Bacula is that it will allow you to spread a backup job accross multiple tapes, supports backups to disk, has its own scheduling system, and has a native windows client. From what I understand Amanda uses tar and relies upon NFS, SMB, or other network filesystem protocols to work. Bacula on the other hand has a true client/server architecture with a native client running on all of the systems it supports. It also makes use of MySQL to keep track of backup jobs. This made it very easy for me to create a web interface for it (http://raobackup.eas.asu.edu/ [asu.edu]

If Amanda has been improved to be competitive with Bacula in some of these areas then I'll definitely have to investigate it.

Lee

Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (4, Interesting)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999833)

This version of amanda supports tape spanning. Many used to say use amanda for the scheduler or bacula for the tape spanning. Since amanda spans, this no longer holds.

Amanda has always allowed backups to a holding disk & the scheduler has been fantasitc. There isn't a native windows client, but the windows client runs fine under cygwin, or one can backup SMB shares.

Amanda does rely on tar (which is, IMHO, a good thing), but that tar can be different on each client (so that one can backup resource forks on OS X, for example).

Amanda doesn't rely on NFS or SMB, but can use them. There are excellent web interfaces through, for example, webmin.

Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (2, Informative)

submitpaddy (963755) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000035)

Two key features distingush Amanda from Bacula

- Data format on the media: You can restore from Amanda media without using Amanda. The commands to
restore data is part of the header

- Consistent backup window: Amanda unique scheduler tries to backup same amount of data every backup run.

Paddy

Bacula doesn't have Amanda's scheduling. (4, Interesting)

argent (18001) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999860)

For me, the lack of automatic backup scheduling in other packages is a complete deal-breaker. Amanda, I just tell it how many full backups I want over what period, and it makes it happen. There's no "full backup this friday" crap. You don't have enough tape? It defers the backups it can, and lets you know you need to get more... it's painless.

For a site with growing storage there's no alternative to Amanda.

Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (1)

xiaomai (904921) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999869)

newer versions of amanda do support tape-spanning. amanda doesn't have anything to do w/ NFS, it uses a server/client model, although there is no native windows client. not sure why an smb mount wouldn't do the job though.

Robustness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999921)

When using a backup software, Robustness matters more than anything else. Amanda is a rock solid project. Others, Bacula etc., don't come close when it comes to reliability.

Re:Robustness (1)

ThreeE (786934) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000014)

I've been using Bacula without any reliability issues for over a year. It hasn't failed once. Do you have any data to support your implication that Bacula is less than rock solid?

Re:Robustness (1)

leereyno (32197) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000046)

I've been using Bacula for almost 3 years now on 2 different servers with no problems. I'm sure that Amanda is very stable, but it is not alone in this respect.

Lee

Parent is not a troll. (1)

Kadin2048 (468275) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999928)

Odd that you got modded 'troll,' since I think your question is anything but.

I've been wondering the same thing. There are quite a few Linux backup products out there, ranging from the more full-featured network backup systems like Amanda and Bacula to shell scripts (some of which are damned impressive by themselves). I've become aware of all the different options because I just bought a DDS tape autoloader for backing up my home network, and choosing one can be pretty daunting. (And I only have a handful of clients to back up.)

I think there is a definite need to sort out or at least get a central place where people can read about the pros and cons of various strategies, that alone would take a lot of the "black art" feeling out of network backups.

(By the way that web interface for Bacula seems pretty neat. Nice work.)

Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (0, Offtopic)

xenophrak (457095) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000130)

I wonder what Captain Archer would say about this?

Re:How does it compare to Bacula? (1)

C0llegeSTUDent (876813) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000493)

Amanada has a much smoother user interface than Bacula, and her ports ain't bad either! Be careful though, I heard that Amanda may contain a backdoor - best to examine the sourcecode yourself to make sure you don't get any nasty viruses.

I Tried It Once... (5, Interesting)

Illbay (700081) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999821)

...but had a tough time with the (at least at that time) limited hardware support. While I'm sure they've probably worked that out (at least to a better degree than before), my search for alternatives back then turned up rdiff-backup [rdiff-backup.org] .

Not only has it always been versatile as far as the hardware it uses--for my SOHO server, an external USB Harddrive is the ticket, one that I can just snatch and carry with me if natural disaster threatens, e.g.--but the METHOD of backup [nongnu.org] is superior to anything I've personally ever encountered.

Backup AND restore are both a breeze.

I'm sure that AMANDA is more appropriate for many (read "more servers") usage, but I've found rdiff-backup to be perfect for someone like me, with only a single server to worry about (althought that single server contains all my family's business and personal files--so to us, it's not such a trivial thing).

Re:I Tried It Once... (1)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999848)

What problems with hardware support did you have? It can write to any tape device that mt can & integrate with any tape changer that mtx can. It can read and write to any disk that the kernel allows. rdiff-backup was started fairly recently, so I can't imagine your amanda problems were insurmountable.

solid piece of software (3, Informative)

2old2rock (963747) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999826)

A good piece of software thats getting some attention it deserves. Looking at http://amanda.zmanda.com/amanda-25-released.html [zmanda.com] and the wiki at http://wiki.amanda.com/ [amanda.com] it feel like amanda is getting the recognition it deserves. For newbies I would recommed http://forums.zmanda.com/ [zmanda.com] and the wiki above.

Re:solid piece of software (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999839)

You mean http://forums.zmanda.com/ [zmanda.com] , right?

Must be 2 old !!

Re:solid piece of software (1)

dj44 (955353) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000461)

I especially like info provided by http://wiki.zmanda.com./ [wiki.zmanda.com] It seems Amanda wiki is written by users for users and is really helpful not just for newbies but also for advanced Amanda users. ----- dj

Amanda 2.5 Released - no .deb's? (1)

papason (4755) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999830)

Seems none of these are are available for Debian?

Re: Amanda 2.5 Released - no .deb's? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#14999845)

Re: Amanda 2.5 Released - no .deb's? (2, Informative)

submitpaddy (963755) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000102)

Amanda 2.4.4 is in debian stable. 2.4.5p1 is under test. 2.5.0 will be available from the debian maintainer soon.
It will be also available from http://www.zmanda.com/downloads.html [zmanda.com] site soon

Backups? (1)

dvicci (22294) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999835)

Backups? Here I was, thinking that a followup to Third Stage [boston.org] had been released.

Re:Backups? (2, Funny)

remembertomorrow (959064) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999923)

Amanda definitely gives me more than a feeling.

Generalised backup applications? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999853)

Does it support generalised backup apps, or do they still have to be wrapped in scripts to make them look like dump or tar?

Legitimate question (1)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999891)

How does Amanda compare to proprietary solutions (e.g. NetVault)?

And does it support tape backup hardware?

Re:Legitimate question (1)

jpalit (776862) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999931)

Of course Amanda supports tape backup hardware... Otherwise why would it be a backup software!?

Re:Legitimate question (1)

tweek (18111) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000071)

Diskpools and very large ones at that. Doesn't address the offsite issue but it's still a nearline backup.

Re:Legitimate question (1)

dj44 (955353) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000445)

Amanda provides all functionality you need for backup and recovery to disk and tape. As a matter of fact it can write the very same backup data to tape and disk at the same time by using RAIT-2. Commercial vendors I looked at (Legato Networker and Veritas Netbackup) couldn't do that. -- dj

Amanda or Zmanda? (1)

mg2 (823681) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999946)

I went to the site expecting the good old Rainbow style A.M.A.N.D.A. logo, but the site is 'zmanda' branded...

To me, this looks like some third party updated and extended some OSS. That said, I think the title is a bit misleading in that this isn't Amanda 2.5 at all, but some other project...

Just my $0.02

Re:Amanda or Zmanda? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15000005)

Nope. This is the *real* Amanda release. I checked on Sourceforge as well. Zmanda seems to be a company behind Amanda project. You can see the rainbow'ed Amanda logo on their wiki (http://wiki.zmanda.com/ [zmanda.com] )

Re:Amanda or Zmanda? (2, Informative)

james_da_silva (959573) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000617)

No this isn't a fork. The post linked to zmanda, but you can find the old logo and a reference to 2.5.0 at http://www.amanda.org/ [amanda.org] as usual. (I had no idea anyone actually liked that logo. Ten minutes with an image editor ten years ago, and it's still up there) Amanda, as always, has been developed by whoever was willing to pick up the ball and run with it. Right now Zmanda is taking an active interest and contributing heavily back to the open source program. This is of course A Good Thing.

Access control lists? (1)

Myria (562655) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999953)

Can Amanda handle POSIX access control lists?

Melissa

Re:Access control lists? (1)

submitpaddy (963755) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000072)

Amanda 2.5 patch to support Schily tar (which backs up ACLs) will be available soon.

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Nice but.. (3, Informative)

daniel_newton (817437) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999961)

I these backup programs seem to complicated for me. At work we just use tar for our archival backup (I can have a bare metal restore from tape of our main production server up in about 2 hours).

Also we use rsnapshot [freshmeat.net] for hourly/daily/weekly/monthly snapshots of the whole filesystem (rsnapshot is very cool and simple too).

Re:Nice but.. (3, Informative)

dj44 (955353) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000416)

If you have more than 2 or 3 machines that you want to backup to disk and especially tape you need Amanda for automation. After initial setup Amanda doesn't require any babysitting, it just works for you. ---- dj

Re:Nice but.. (1)

daniel_newton (817437) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000441)

You are probably right for that situation.

We are a pretty small company and our policy is if it should be backed up then it should be hosted on the server.

Name sounds familiar... (1)

RazorRaiser (895600) | more than 8 years ago | (#14999983)

is that like Jake 2.0?

Re:Name sounds familiar... (1)

jamesh (87723) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000486)

Probably more like Sid 6.7 [wikipedia.org] :)

What's next for amanda? (4, Informative)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000099)

From the amanda hacker's list:
We need to decide on the release version? 2.6? 2.5.1?

Following is the list of features that have been requested:

- Support for POSIX file names (allowing spaces in filenames)
- Amanda user ids consistency (sourceforge bug 1416737) - Requested by
Paul Bijnens, Mitch Collinsworth
- Backing up filesystem ACLs (schily tar support)
- Design and implementation of application API (new Dumper API)
    (Proposal in http://wiki.zmanda.com/index.php/Application_API [zmanda.com] )
- Cleaning up the device interface to support WORM devices
    (Suggested by mhelmling http://forums.zmanda.com/showthread.php?t=28 [zmanda.com] )

Of course, all open bugs in sourceforge.net bug tracker have to be addressed.

If you have feature requests or if you find bugs, please post them in
sourceforge.net bug tracker
(http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=120&atid =100120 [sourceforge.net] )

Thanks,
Paddy

Re:What's next for amanda? (1)

Dadoo (899435) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000534)


Following is the list of features that have been requested:
- Support for POSIX file names (allowing spaces in filenames)

Wait - Amanda doesn't support filenames with spaces, yet? That makes it pretty much useless for me and, I'll bet, any machines that serve Windows clients. Can any Amanda users confirm this? What about filenames with special characters, like quotes or backslashes?

Re:What's next for amanda? (2, Informative)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000553)

It can and does backup names with spaces. I have it backup windows clients and *nix SMB servers which have a lot of long filenames.

I believe what is meant here is that certain configuration files (such as the list of which disks to backup or files to exclude) are delimited with white space.

This is currently somewhat anoying, but not too limiting. You'll tell it to backup things like "/home" and "/etc" or "/cygdrive/c/Docume~1" & it will backup files and folders in those with names like "New Folder" and the like.

Easy Amanda Client for MacOSX? (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000598)

I've been thinking of starting up a backup regimen at home recently. But my wife uses MacOSX and it would be nice if there was an EASY way to set it up a client on her machine. You know, something along the lines of a .DMG or .mpkg file to click and install, another program to do any configuration needed in a windowed environment. I did a little cursory reading prior to this post but I have only seen where it must be compiled on the machine which requires all sorts of prerequisites. I guess I could do it all if there was no other way, but I'd like to know if there IS another way first you know?

Still Tape Only (2, Insightful)

WryCoder (18961) | more than 8 years ago | (#15000602)

It's a shame that they didn't include backing up to DVD or disk. Yes, you can use the disk holding area and manually clean it out periodically so it doesn't fill up. That's what I do.

But it would be nice if you could specify the equivalent of some number of tape sets in the holding area and have them overwrite themselves without manual intervention.
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