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Misconfigured Webserver, Threats to Call FBI

Hemos posted more than 8 years ago | from the all-in-a-morning's-work dept.

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the_harlequin writes "The Register is reporting that a city manager threatened to call the FBI over a misconfigured webserver. From the article: "The heartland turned vicious this week when an Oklahoma town threatened to call in the FBI because its web site was hacked by Linux maker CentOS. Problem is CentOS didn't hack Tuttle's web site at all. The city's hosting provider had simply botched a web server." "

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Law Suit! (2, Funny)

Elitist_Phoenix (808424) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002450)

If you don't remove this inflamitory comment I'm calling the FBI!

Re:Law Suit! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002639)

Was that Tuttle or Buttle?

Future Of Rap Music Jeopardized By Anti Child Mode (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002692)

Music industry insiders claim there is a growing threat to the future of
Rap music if the current crusade against child modeling web sites is
allowed to continue unchecked. Rapper Big Daddy Fat Back of Rubber Neck
Records recently held a news conference from his office in south central
LA and gave the following statement: "Word dawg, if we can't get these
children's into some thongs, bikinis n' shit and up on the internet then
how the fuck is they supposed to grow up to be bitches and hos? And if
they don't grow up to be bitches and hos then what the fuck is we going to
be rappin' about? Bay kittens n' shit?"
  When asked if this cold be the death knell for his own career Big
Daddy had this to say, "Yo, I'll take some pictures of a god dam fetus and
put that bitch up on the internet before that shit happens. I ain't going
back to Winn-Dixie mother fucker!"
  When confronted with the fact the right wing extremist organization,
God Love Us But Hates You, claims that these young girls are being
exploited he replied, "Man, fuck dat shit, they all skank ass hos anyway
and the sooner day learn dat shit, da sooner day can start suckin' my big
black dick! Word to Mama's bitch, ho daughter dawg!"

Re:Law Suit! (3, Funny)

aborchers (471342) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002703)

From one of Taylor's letters:

"I have no fear of the media, in fact I welcome this publicity."

You think he still welcomes it today?

Re:Law Suit! (1)

BoomerSooner (308737) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002755)

Jesus, this just makes me sad to be an Oklahoman. Why can't people hire someone qualified to work on their systems? Seriously, IT people that could work on Tuttle's systems aren't expensive. Govt project, what can one expect?

Boomer Sooner! FYI there are some pretty damn hot women in Tuttle though. Ada has to be one of the best outside of Norman. Mmmm.... ;)

Re:Law Suit! (2, Informative)

beheaderaswp (549877) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002798)

You are aware that his publicly posted salary is in the mid $60,000 range?

At least he is not cheap.

!!!!~11111!!! (5, Funny)

Mattygfunk1 (596840) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002451)

"Get this web site off my home page!!!!! It is blocking access to my website!!!!~!," Taylor responded, clearly excited about the situation and sensing that Bin Laden was near.

He forgot the 1s but the tilda was creative.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (5, Funny)

iapetus (24050) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002475)

Indeed. Basmati rice [tilda.com] always adds that personal (if slightly bizarre) touch to an e-mail.

The tilde was quite creative too. :P

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (5, Insightful)

Vengeance (46019) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002477)

The guy is a real piece of work. I liked this:

"I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation. Now, can you tell me how to remove 'your software' that you acknowledge you provided free of charge? I consider this 'hacking.'"

22 years in systems engineering, but he hasn't got a clue as to how web sites operate. This guy epitomizes problems we all see every day: Incompetents who don't recognize their own incompetence. Then he compounds it by being an arrogant bastard and an overbearing, threatening weenie to boot.

Nice.

And these are the kinds of jackasses we ELECT to have power over us.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002526)

Hopefully, the fact that he 'welcomes' the publicity will do enough to enough to damage his career and teach him not to be such an arrogant gob-shite in the future....

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (0)

infochuck (468115) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002536)

Incompetents who don't recognize their own incompetence.

While I agree with your post in sentiment, one make realize that, by definition, incompetents don't recognize their incompetence. If they recognize that they are incompetent then they are actually competent. I refer to this as (just now) infochuck's paradox.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (4, Insightful)

fabs64 (657132) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002594)

realising you're incompetent doesn't make you competent, it just means you're not ignorant to your incompetence.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002622)

The important point is realizing that you have a problem and then (if called for) doing something about it.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

networkBoy (774728) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002843)

Specifically:
First you don't know what you don't know
Second you know what you don't know
Third you don't know what you know
and finally you know what you know.

Basically one should evolve through the path above and eventually become a super duper awesome geek (Linus comes to mind here), sounds like this guy has been on step one for an aweful long time. Someone needs to take him under their wing :-)
-nB

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (2, Interesting)

avdp (22065) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002541)

Well, probably 22 years on the mainframe a few decades ago. He doesn't know a thing about anything that isn't green and black and/or involve punch cards. I see a lot of those around where I work, although most of them are smart enough to know their skills are outdated, and don't pretend to know these new(er) technologies. Not this guy apparently.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

ArbitraryConstant (763964) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002738)

In my experience, they tend to be pretty sharp (as they figured out mainframes Back in the Day) and able to recognize holes in their knowledge/experience.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

djdavetrouble (442175) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002799)

Well, probably 22 years on the mainframe a few decades ago....I see a lot of those around where I work

I second this ! I was forced to take a windows XP administration class here in New York City, and there were a couple of
those grizzled old dudes in my class. The funny part is the two oldest most grizzled dudes were admins at the NYPD.
Turns out they mostly supported a bunch of wierd legacy servers and DB's.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

Peyna (14792) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002577)

And these are the kinds of jackasses we ELECT to have power over us.

Most City Managers are not elected by the people. They handle the "administrative" tasks of government and are appoointed by the city council. So this particular "jackass" was not elected.

Interesting study on incompetence (5, Informative)

DiveX (322721) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002630)

The tendency of the average person to believe he or she is better-than-average is known as the "above-average effect," and it flies in the face of logic... by definition, it is impossible for a majority of people to be above average. The more incompetent someone is in a particular area, the less qualified that person is to assess anyone's skill in that space, including their own. Here is the summary of the study. http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=406 [damninteresting.com]

Re:Interesting study on incompetence (5, Insightful)

jsight (8987) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002717)


by definition, it is impossible for a majority of people to be above average.


No, it's not.

Re:Interesting study on incompetence (2, Insightful)

uglyduckling (103926) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002782)

Well -- I'm glad to hear you say that, because it annoys me when people say what the parent said -- but, of course, it depends on the definition.

It is perfectly possible for the majority of people to be above the mean [average] or modal [average] but impossible for the majority to be above the median [average].

Re:Interesting study on incompetence (1)

Mark J Tilford (186) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002753)

By definition, it's impossible for more than half to be above [i]median[/i]. It's quite easy for more than half to be above average. For example, suppose there's one sample of 1, and 49 samples of 2. Average is 99/50 == 1.98; 49/50 == 98% are above average.

MSCE strikes again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002663)

Probably an MSCE with a whole stack of other MS certifications. Fits the profile to a t.

Re:MSCE strikes again (4, Informative)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002711)

Or even an MCSE. If you're going to knock us, get the term right.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (2, Funny)

Enigma_Man (756516) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002572)

The comic-sans on his website [tuttle-ok.gov] is hilarious as well.

-Jesse

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002661)

Argh.. Hmm, funny how the attempts at a professional look is so totally ruined by him.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (2, Funny)

Fishstick (150821) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002756)

yep

I am please to serve the citizens of the City of Tuttle.

I guess it's a good thing he isn't running the school board or anything.

ha! (1)

lone bear (67361) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002734)

obviously he comes from the era of big iron, as the first sentence has not been proofread.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002742)

Finally I understand how Bush was re-elected. Why didn't we let the South leave?

United we fall, divided we stand.

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

mjm1231 (751545) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002778)

The horrible font choice is intentional. It's meant to keep people from noticing the numerous grammatical errors.

(At least he's consistent... subject-verb agreement is wrong nearly every time.)

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1)

ajs318 (655362) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002593)

<homer_simpson>Mmmmm ..... Tilda rice .....</homer_simpson>

Re:!!!!~11111!!! (1, Funny)

Chas (5144) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002662)

J00 h4x0r3d my b0x0rz!

I g0nna 5U3 J00!

I b c0mput3r literit! I k3n d0 it!

God. People this stupid and obtuse (fewer problems with people who're more friendly in their stupidity) make me want to go out on a shooting spree.

If I'd been Johnny, I'd have told the guy to go fuck himself after about the first threat and then blackholed his e-mail address.

Already? (1)

Jack Malmostoso (899729) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002453)

The centos link is already /. or just mislinked?

Re:Already? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002652)

Yes it is slashdotted

Slashdot hacked the CentOS website! (1)

csoto (220540) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002706)

Thos bastards! CALL THE FBI!

it's happening all over the place (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002455)

This page cannot be displayed due to an internal error. If you are the administrator of this site, please visit the Xoops Troubleshooting Page for assistance. Error [Xoops]: Unable to connect to database in file class/database/databasefactory.php line 34

22 Years Experience? (2, Funny)

beheaderaswp (549877) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002463)

Overheard at the city council meeting:

"Someone unplugged my keyboard- Call the FBI Alice!!!"

Yet another Oklahoma Joke (2, Funny)

ralphart (70342) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002465)

This just confirms what we Texans have known for years...(ducking for cover).

Re:Yet another Oklahoma Joke (1)

BigCheese (47608) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002601)

I don't think they got it. My inlaws live in OK and TX so I had to.

Re:Yet another Oklahoma Joke (1)

halber_mensch (851834) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002602)

This just confirms what we Texans have known for years...(ducking for cover).

That people in government are hot-headed, dumbfounded by technology, and incapable of determining the correct contact for a problem? And all these years I thought we were electing the best and the brightest people to drive this nation into the 21st century! Damn!

Re:Yet another Oklahoma Joke (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002702)

I'll sue you for this! I'll sue you in England! You are so sued

- A Proud Okie

oh man.. (5, Funny)

mattpointblank (936343) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002470)

Haha, I love how each of the Manager's replies show a complete ignorance of the previous, helpful message from the CentOS tech. I had a similar situation trying to explain to my uncle (who I was building a site for) about how SMTP works and why mail forwarding only worked before we changed his nameservers (since he only bought domain names and not hosting). I spent a painstaking 20 minutes explaining it in layman's terms, only for him to pause then say, "My email isn't working". The CentOS guy should get a medal for keeping so calm here.

oh man..Clear and present danger. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002525)

"The CentOS guy should get a medal for keeping so calm here."

Why? I never got one. I do however have a lovely ulcer collection.

As you could read last week... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002471)

Just like you could read on the Register last week.... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/24/tuttle_cen tos/ [theregister.co.uk] Gee bringing last week's news now? Ah well I gues sit's stuff that amtters....

Ridiculous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002481)

So if I'm understanding the article right, this company screwed up installing their webserver and so they threatened to call the FBI because they did something wrong? Thats what it seems like to me.

Re:Ridiculous (2, Insightful)

ajs318 (655362) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002814)

No, their web hosting company did something wrong, and the Operating System vendor was mistakenly blamed for the problem. Your DNS hosting, web hosting, mail hosting and database hosting can all be carried out by different companies. You can also do any of them yourself, if you have a static IP address {though DNS is more tricky than the others, requiring two static IP addresses}. When your Philips radio {powered by electricity from Powergen, paid for with tokens bought in a 24 hour Spar supermarket} goes silent in the middle of a Charlotte Church record during the Terry Wogan Show, who do you call?
  • The BBC?
  • Charlotte Church's record label?
  • Powergen?
  • Philips?
  • Mind you, this Jerry Taylor guy sounds like he probably has trouble dealing with hall-and-landing light switches.

I have a GREAT idea! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002482)

Lets slashdot http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/ [tuttle-ok.gov] !!!

Ready? Click, reload, repeat! Click, reload, repeat!

we'll give em a hack (1)

jigjigga (903943) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002484)

In about 20 mins their web server will be "hacked" again by lots of people. I guess we are a group of what? :D

That's nothing (5, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002486)

That's nothing. Over the years I've been the victim of some ruthless Native American terrorist organization that always seems to hack my webpage within minutes of installing the server.

Could be worse! (0)

DenDave (700621) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002608)

At leasty them darn injuns is polite enuf to tell yez about it!

I once saw a survur that was taken by them folks in the black choppers! That's right, you know 'em, International Information Spooks, IIS!!!

Non sequitur (5, Funny)

dildo (250211) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002490)

For some reason, this reminds me of the time that a woman called my branch of the company and said: "We're all out of paper over here... could you fax some over?"

HAX (5, Funny)

Bega (684994) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002495)

"Get this web site off my home page!!!!! It is blocking access to my website!!!!~!," Taylor responded, clearly excited about the situation and sensing that Bin Laden was near.
how do you remove a web site off of a home page? pls email me telling how this can be done, my home site was just hacked by apple :(

Re:HAX (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002678)

my home site was just hacked by apple

Yeah, well mine was once hacked by vicious Apache Indians!

-Eric

I wonder how long it'll take him (5, Funny)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002497)

...to complain about a DDOS attack. Behold, the power of Slashdot!

Wrong tuttle (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002504)

CentOS was supposed to hack Buttle, not Tuttle. Information Retrieval will be in real trouble for this.

It probably was Buttle... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002507)

The Department of Records [deadrabbit.org] must have the name of the website wrong and confused it with Buttle instead of Tuttle, we will correct it as soon as possible. In the mean time, we do not apologize for disrupting your webserver, and we will not reimburse you one penny nor will we fix the damage caused.

Hacked... (2, Funny)

WED Fan (911325) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002510)

My computer is routinely hacked by Microsoft, should I call. It happens at least once a month, sometimes weekly. I have another one that is hacked by commies, I know they are commies, they use GPL.

"I welcome this publicity" (4, Interesting)

gbulmash (688770) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002516)

Funniest bit is where the city manager says: "I have no fear of the media, in fact I welcome this publicity."

After reading through the exchange on the CentOS site [centos.org] , I think he's going to regret making that statement. Normally, a dunderhead bureaucrat like this would try to sue or claim these e-mails shouldn't have been made public, but with this little statement on file...

I'd call the guy a "dumbass", but he's not necessarily stupid, just ignorant and bullheaded. Of course, ignorant and bullheaded do a very good impersonation of stupid when combined.

- Greg

Re:"I welcome this publicity" (4, Insightful)

beheaderaswp (549877) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002728)

With one caveat:

The press is his town might not be savvy enough to understand what he did.

Blind leading the blind (1, Funny)

MECC (8478) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002520)

I have contacted the City's network administrator wnd he has done nothing to install your CentOS software. I have contacted our Internet provider and they know nothing about your software. I am computer literate! I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation.

Hmm... 22 years as a manager, maybe. As if that counted for anything. Then, to make matters worse, he talked to a 'network administrator', who thanks to MS always refering to windows admins as 'network administrators' is a just a windows admin. A case of the blind leading the blind. Or, the windows admins leading the windows users.

Re:Blind leading the blind (1)

Kjella (173770) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002647)

"I have contacted our Internet provider and they know nothing about your software."

Well, in his defense I would have gone rather "WTF?" too if I found that on my webpage, called the ISP and they claimed to not know anything about it. Though I would probably have asked them to pull up my page and from there on out it should have resolved itself. But seriously, this can't be the first lame phonecall they've gotten over the "this site not here yet" page.

Well Tuttle, OK *IS* a major terrorist target (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002544)

Some people might accuse them of overeacting. But if you had Osama Bin Laden breathing down *YOUR* neck every day, you'd be pretty nervous too.

-Eric

IT Crowd Quote? (1)

Kev_Stewart (737140) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002561)

Would this be a good time for an IT Crowd Quote?

Hello..IT...have you tried turning it off and on again?

Yeah, you do know how a button works, don't you? No, not on clothes. No, there you go, I just heard it come on. No, that's the music you hear when it comes on. No, that's the music you hear when...

I'm sorry, are you from the past?

Re:IT Crowd Quote? (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002746)

> Would this be a good time for an IT Crowd Quote?
> Hello..IT...have you tried turning it off and on again?

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! That's really funny! Seriously, it's a great show! I really think "Yes! That's exactly what it's like!" when I watch it. I can't wait for the next series. While I'm waiting I'm going to watch Nathan Barley - that's great too. It's so good to see Chris Morris finally doing innovative comedy after stuff like On The Hour, The Day Today and Brasseye.

Oklahoma - The Musical !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002579)

Ok-La-Hom-A where the average IQ is only 10....

you could of course send him An email (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002580)

We could of course send him a message trying to explain what really happened?

City Manager Jerry A. Taylor: citymgr@cityoftuttle.org

The City of Tuttle is the Place Where People Grow - Friendly (but slow).

qualified public officials (2, Funny)

Madman (84403) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002584)

Isn't it gratifying and re-assuring to know that we have public officials who are intelligent and qualified enough to read an error page, and then savvy enough to: a) look up the company's web site, and then b) effectively and efficiently manage the problem to the satisfaction of all parties involved. We should bestow him with praises.

Rest assured people of Oklahoma, your IT is in good hands!

Re:qualified public officials (1)

Sique (173459) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002792)

It's again proof that shouting around and accusing and threatening people will get things done. Manager 101.

When in doubt, SUE! (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002596)

It seems it becomes our new way of life. We have no idea what we're doing, we have no idea what people are supposed to do, we have no idea who's to blame, but when in doubt, SUE! The more the other party knows, the higher your chances to succeed, because it seems the current creed in justice is that if you're clued, you should know what you do, while when you're clueless, you can't be held responsible for your actions.

Quite what we're currently facing in the area of viri and trojans. Your computer can be the biggest spambot on the planet, as long as you can credibly claim you're as clued as an aubergine when it comes to computers, you're not accountable for it.

So when in doubt, SUE! Especially if you're dumb as fu..

He tried emailing the FBI... (5, Funny)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002597)

...but, alas, they do not have email!

Can you imagine? [slashdot.org]

And This is Why (1)

Ian McBeth (862517) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002605)

I don't tell people I am from Oklahoma, because I know that 90% of the popluation of that state outside of Oklahoma City and Tulsa don't know jack about IT, The internet, Security, Or that anything but MS windows can run on a PC. Its really rather embarressing.

..and somewhat related... wifi in Oklahoma.... (1)

AtariDatacenter (31657) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002851)

I enjoy my trips to Vinita oklahoma. Small towns like that are great in that just about everyone's home is a WiFi public hot spot. I just take a stroll down the street with my Palm TX, refresh my RSS feeds, visit some websites...

Actually, I was quite shocked how even more insecure people were with their WiFi than in my own town. But really, I guess they don't have too much reason to worry.

The soft underbelly of the heartland, indeed!

Let them know what you think.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002609)

e-mail
citymgr@cityoftuttle.org

tell this inbred bozo what you think of him (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002646)

http://www.tuttle-ok.gov/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SE C= [tuttle-ok.gov] {CC5DEFB6-1B2A-4783-A5F8-A92275C95081} 22 years and he has no clue how DNS or web servers works... MBA, Raytheon consultant. No wonder America is in suvh serious trouble. This bozo should be fired for incompetence!

the price of ignorance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002654)

i have been in oklahoma for 30 years. the schools here are not real well funded and few people have heard of unix, let alone linux. i went to volunteer at a junior high school one time and the kids didnt even have text books for algebra clas.

i know people in big cities get discarded old machines for almost free. well, that doesn't happen here very often.

the computers that people do have in school they are discouraged from learning about them. they are some magic box from 'somewhere else' and only magicians can deal with them.

if this incident 'bothers' you so much then i would suggest you donate some money to the schools in oklahoma, or stop charging so much for shipping when you sell crap on ebay.

it just goes to prove that you cant leave one part of the population ignorant due to lack of education money, while the other is given fancy education and expect the society to work smoothly.

Re:the price of ignorance (2, Insightful)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002672)

So you're saying, if this guy's school had some money when he was there, he wouldn't have grown up a pompous prick?

Re:the price of ignorance (1)

x2A (858210) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002758)

This can't be true... the guy has 22yrs experience!

Re:the price of ignorance (1)

Rekolitus (899752) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002768)

the computers that people do have in school they are discouraged from learning about them. they are some magic box from 'somewhere else' and only magicians can deal with them.

I know exactly what you mean. I've seen computers locked down to such a ridiculous degree, like not being able to right click *anywhere*.

Quality... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002673)

And who said the quality of Slashdot was going down. This is a perfectly good peice of fiction... oh wait this was real?

The PHB in question (5, Informative)

sethadam1 (530629) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002686)

The PHB in question is the city manager. According to him: "My door is always open and I answer all calls."

So... here's his info: City Manager Jerry A. Taylor [tuttle-ok.gov] , and his email address: citymgr@cityoftuttle.org [mailto] .

Note that I am not "exposing" anything, all of this info comes directly from the publically available cityoftuttle.org website.

PS. I can't believe we fried centos.org but not cityoftuttle.org.

Lets Hack his site (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002688)

Now we really need someone (hint, anyone out there) to actually hack his site. If you do though, please make it clear it wasn't CentOS.

Finally, kudos to CentOS for even responding to this dipshit.

Yelling!!!! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15002693)

If you noticed on his bio at the website - he was a manager for E-Systems. This is the way E-Systems managers manage - the yell about everything - get absolutely nothing done but yelling - but yell they do - until someone comes along and fixes it for them. He is classic E-Systems - everyone in the defense industry know about them - and has had to put up with their management technique. Finally the rest of you can start to deal with them too...

I spot another misconfigured site! (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002694)

Haha. I just clicked on the "its web site" link for the story on CentOS and got this:
This page cannot be displayed due to an internal error.

If you are the administrator of this site, please visit the Xoops Troubleshooting Page for assistance.

Error [Xoops]: Unable to connect to database in file class/database/databasefactory.php line 34

I hereby nominate March 27 as the International Misconfiguration Day!
Hmm, time to book tickets for the parade of Microsoft admins, maybe. :-/

Tuttle? (4, Funny)

microcars (708223) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002712)

its a mistake, it was supposed to read BUTTLE....

Help entertain the tech community (5, Funny)

daputz (255605) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002714)

To: citymgr@cityoftuttle.org

Subject: Need your help in entertaining the tech community

Jerry,
I understand that you have 22 years of experience computer systems engineering and operation are are computer literate. I need your help in entertaining the Internet technical community.

I think it would be hilarious if we loaded the default page on on a web server for the city (one with instructions on how to fix the problem) and then complained about it to the the maker of the operating system. Yuk, yuk! We can even (get this) whine that all the computers in the building show the same default page when you surf to the site. Bwaaahhhaaahhhaaa! Then (I can hardly contain myself) let's accuse the poor saps of hacking our server and threaten to call the FBI!!! Teeehhheeehhheeee!

Oh, oh, my sides hurt. This is going to be great. You setup the server and I'll.... Oh, I'm just reading slashdot and see that you already done it. Well, I guess you thought of it before me. Good one.

comic sans (5, Insightful)

BenjyD (316700) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002730)

The guy's website [tuttle-ok.gov] provides further proof for the "low IQ and use of Comic Sans" correlation.

hah hah (1)

EngMedic (604629) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002735)

as of 0957 EST, City Of Tuttle [cityoftuttle.org] is still showing an apache test page...

Charge the city for technical support (4, Interesting)

smelroy (40796) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002745)

CentOS should send the city a bill for their tech support time. After all, they wasted the time of a primary developer whose time could be spent much better. Of course the chance of the bill getting paid is slim to none but it is the thought that counts, right? I hope Johnny Hughes found the man's ignorance as funny as I do and was not overly annoyed with the knucklehead.

to contact@tuttletimes.com (2, Insightful)

davids-world.com (551216) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002761)

Hi there,
have you seen this one?
The world seems to be laughing about your city administration...

http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?sto ryid=127 [centos.org]

Cheers
Dave

Re:to contact@tuttletimes.com (1)

aphaenogaster (884935) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002844)

Doh! But that link is dead, we killed centos/s news board. Send them a link to the register article as well.

Re:to contact@tuttletimes.com (1)

clearmake (118057) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002850)

Or if their site is still down, try the google cache [72.14.203.104]

Unfair competition for Scott Adams (1)

Archtech (159117) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002770)

Scott should sue this guy for competing with his PHB... and holding his own.

This is wrong! (-1, Troll)

Builder (103701) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002777)

I really hate that this is getting linked to from so many places. This should never have been posted, and will only hurt Open Source Software's cause.

We keep telling companies that they can trust open source software. When they point out that there is no support, we tell them about the wonderful community that they can turn to for support.

This is PERFECT MS anti-linux fodder. Yeah, sure you can turn to the OS community for support... if you want to get ridiculed on the Internet.

I'm not arguing that the town manager was a dick - he clearly was from his mails, but even so, this thread should not have been posted on the 'net.

Re:This is wrong! (4, Insightful)

sethadam1 (530629) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002823)

Sorry, Builder, but all this shows is that incompetents shouldn't be left in charge of IT. I would say it demonstrates the exact opposite of what you say. Clearly the city manager is unqualified and ignorant. The open source project helped him -- for free -- even when he threatened litigation! Ultimately, CentOS solved the problem for him too, outdoing the ISP he presumably pays.

I would argue that this furthers the cause significantly, and as an aside, encourages towns to take IT seriously.

In other news, local coffee brewer announces goof (1)

The_REAL_DZA (731082) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002779)

Local coffee supplier Perk You! announced the discovery that for several weeks containers labeled "Caffeinated" had mistakenly been filled with DEcaffeinated coffee, but the error was caught and corrected earlier in the week and the correct product "should have already begun showing up in mugs all across the county" according to a company spokesman. Inquiries into exactly which of the company's customers may have been affected by the error went unanswered.

respect and dignity (3, Insightful)

dustwun (662589) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002781)

While the general response is to call for his incompetent head on a plate (not undeserved), we as a community should be making an effort to be polite to this idiot. If we want to continue the march of linux, we need to be prepared to deal with incompetence and people like this in a warm fashion, and mock them later with dignity and respect. If all he gets are threats, harrassing calls etc, he's going to assume that all linux people are alike, and that we're all terrorists and hackers. Please, if you're going to email/call/mock him, do so with dignity and respect as a member of the community. Don't prove him right by getting on his level. We're all better than him, so act like it.

Computer literate? (1)

Trails (629752) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002791)

Jerry said: I am computer literate!
Jerry meant: See, I can spell "computer" correctly

Jerry said: I have 22 years in computer systems engineering and operation.
Jerry meant: I have been using wordprocessors for 22 years, and once I had to plug a computer in!

wow, he was worried about that website?! (1)

beyonddeath (592751) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002806)

All I have to say is: "I am please to serve the citizens of the City of Tuttle." Guess it is Texas, but sheez, it's called education!

Sad (1)

Jerim (872022) | more than 8 years ago | (#15002841)

I was going to email the guy and ask him how someone with 22 years of experience in computer engineering and operations could possibly not understand what is involved in creating a webserver. However, as paranoid as this guy is, he may call the FBI on me for harrassment.
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