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Want to Experience Zero G? Stay in Bed

CmdrTaco posted more than 8 years ago | from the done-and-done dept.

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mrogers writes "New Scientist Space is reporting that the health effects of microgravity can be reproduced by staying in bed. Inclining the bed at an angle of 6 degrees with the head at the lower end produces bone and muscle loss, decreases in cardiovascular activity, and reduced capacity to exercise similar to those produced by prolonged spaceflight. (Valeri Polyakov was not available for comment at the time of going to press.)"

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Proper Analogy? (5, Funny)

JDSalinger (911918) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017785)

Is this like analogizing dreaming to taking hallucinogens?
If so, this is like telling Slashdotters "Want to Experience Sex? Stay in Bed and touch yourself."
Obviously, an insufficient "Experience". I suspect the same of the Stay in Bed "Experience". Someone try this and get back to us.
-C

Re:Proper Analogy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15017814)

OK, tried it.

Interesting results. I started touching my wife and found not zero-G, but one G-spot. Man, she went interstellar when I started hitting it. Broke a few bones at it...6% bone loss easily because of that. What a wild time.

NASA Study (1)

ghoul (157158) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018024)

This is not so ridiculous as it sounds. NASA is actually starting a study soon to see the effects of staying in bed . As part of this study partcipants will have to stay in bed for 90 days including using bedpans to do your stuff. They will not be allowed to even tilt their head up only turn over for when a nurse gives them a sponge bath. Participants get paid 17000 dollars for this. They have to be in the 25-35 age group and in peak physical condition as NASA expects a significant amount of bone loss and muscle atrophy. Further their is a danger that all the calcium leaching out of the bones can cause kidney stones as well as the lack of activity can create a pre-diabetic state. Please also note the study has been scheduled to coincide with summer vacations so if you want to do a really interesting internship this summer NASA is the place to be.

"bed rest" = pain (2, Interesting)

urbazewski (554143) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018719)

The similarity of the two groups' results confirms the decades-long practice of using inclined bedrest as a proxy for spaceflight.

Actually, NASA has been doing "bed-rest studies" on the effectiveness of various exercise regimes for some time now: I remember an ad hanging in the cafeteria when I worked at NASA Ames ~ 2001, it said something like "help advance space science without leaving the comfort of a bed." I asked a friend who worked in life support about it, and she tactfully said "it's very uncomfortable" but the more complete description, for example of how your organs start to feel in a day or two after they start moving into different positions, sounded horrific. old NASA press release [spaceref.com]

Re:NASA Study (1)

Sad Loser (625938) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019068)

This is interesting because this is what patients with chronic fatigue/ ME / neurasthenia etc do (or rather don't do)

They stay in bed and their muscles and bones fall to bits, and surprise surprise, when they try to walk again it is painful and difficult.

If there is a lesson here that humans work best when they are exposed to regular doses of gravity.

Re:NASA Study (1)

BigCheese (47608) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019729)

Ack! Kidney stones. After 7 of the them I can't imagine anyone wanting to risk that. For those of you who haven't had them. They hurt a LOT. You really, really don't want to get them.

Re:Proper Analogy? (1)

chrisnewbie (708349) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019748)

you can always use your left hand if your right handed,, that will simulate another person's touche ;)

G-Spot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15019850)

I don't know if that remark was a dig at Slashdotters or some kind of advice on where to spot the G thing.

or, the results of... (5, Insightful)

yagu (721525) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017786)

Not to nitpick here, but isn't experiencing Zero Gs quite a different beast than experiencing the effects of Zero Gs (based on the article's somewhat misleading title)?

I'm pretty sure one of the effects of experiencing true Zero Gs does not include bed sores!

And, is anyone else sick of the un-"stoppable" macromedia flash ads that suck up cpu and battery life? I see one now on /. from Neumont University... and it's using 50% of my 1.6GHz cpu, and I can't turn it off.... Fuck Neumont! Fuck Flash ads!

Re:or, the results of... (1)

Machina Fortuno (963320) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017830)

Haha... and if you want the mental affect, light up a doobie! Funny mental image of someone as high as a kite laying upsidedown on their bed... "I don't feel my bones getting smaller" and about the flash ads... right click, quality, low! it helps a hell of a lot

Re:or, the results of... (1, Informative)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017836)

Get firefox. Then get this: https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php ?id=433&application=firefox [mozilla.org]

Problem solved.

Re:or, the results of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15017968)

Yeah...because installing firefox will help him out with his memory problems...

Re:or, the results of... (1)

sholden (12227) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018012)

Because memory is mentioned in the bloody post...

Even better, try Adblock Plus instead (3, Informative)

prisoner-of-enigma (535770) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018150)

Download it here: http://p2.forumforfree.com/adblock-plus-05111-rele ased-vt352-adblockplus.html [forumforfree.com]

This is truly the reason why I gave up IE and went whole-hog to Firefox. This plugin can be coupled with another, Filterset.G (https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.ph p?id=1136 [mozilla.org] ), to get automatic updates of add blocklists. It also supports whitelisting, something the stock Adblock does not. It also blocks flash ads.

With Adblock Plus and Filterset.G, it's a rare page that I have to view that has any ads on it at all. And it's as easy as loading two plugings. These are the first two things I put into Firefox when I load it.

Flashblock is great but it only blocks Flash. Adblock Plus does that one better by blocking Flash ads and not other bits of Flash. Highly recommended.

Re:Even better, try Adblock Plus instead (1)

BigCheese (47608) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019761)

Adblock plus has been on https://addons.mozilla.org/ [mozilla.org] for a while now. You are right. Adblock Plus + Adblock Filterset G rocks.
I looked at Yahoo the other day without it and I though I would go blind.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

kniLnamiJ-neB (754894) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018604)

That's awesome. Just what I needed. Oh, for a mod point....

Re:or, the results of... (4, Insightful)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017837)

First - I'm pretty sure the article title was meant to be tongue in cheek

Second - try firefox with the adblock plugin - it's pretty easy to eliminate flash ads if you put just a TINY bit of effort into it instead of bitching about it on slashdot.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

yagu (721525) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017928)

Second - try firefox with the adblock plugin - it's pretty easy to eliminate flash ads if you put just a TINY bit of effort into it instead of bitching about it on slashdot

But, I don't mind ads... and sometimtes, I don't even mind flash ads... Sometimes they're actually trying to sell me something I want.

But, "a TINY bit of effort" each time someone comes up with the next annoying way to trespass (and they have and they will) adds up to a LOT of effort over time -- toss it into the same bucket with all the support I have to do to keep other people's computers well behaved because of this kind of crap, and I'm spending lots and lots of time... So,

Every once in a while, I vent, sometimes even publicly on forums where hopefully lots of people read it.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017980)

Try the Flashblock plugin that someone else mentioned up there. The newer versions include a toolbar button that can toggle flash on/off for a page. Very handy for those product pages that contain five or six flash files. Go to a page, see nothing but boxes indicating it's Flash content, toggle it on, reload the page, and cello, all sorts of animations sucking up your processing power--and it's totally at your command!

Re:or, the results of... (1)

strstrep (879828) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018148)

If you also use the Filterset.G updater, almost all ads will be blocked by a ruleset that someone else maintains.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

MustardMan (52102) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018202)

Adblock lets you selectively filter - nothing is filtered by default, but a specific annoying element can be removed. Technically it can filter anything, not just ads, so you can get rid of annoying music or animated gifs on websites too.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019618)

And Adblock Plus lets you whitelist sites you want to support. Or you could opt to only block the particularly time-sucking ads such as the one mentioned.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

rk (6314) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018658)

I hear what you're saying about the adblocking, but for me it's the general principle that an advertiser, not content with taking up your desktop space with their ads, also feels entitled to use as much of your CPU and RAM as they see fit. Sure I can block them (and do block at home), but the sheer arrogance that they're entitled to so much of your computing resources is what chaps my ass.

Or try FlashBlock (1)

Chris Daniel (807289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018826)

Invaluable extension for me -- I absolutely can't stand Flash ads, most especially those that make noise. Try it [mozdev.org] .

I think it best to complain to Marcromedia + Adobe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15017863)

Good point about the bed sores

I some times have two webrowser windows open each with sometimes 11 tabs. You can imagine how irritated I am with my CPU cycle being sucked away. Two things I hate about Flash.

1. No option to say stop looping Flash animations

2. I hate the fact that Flash has an option to link to your microphone and webcam. I know this is off by default but I think its to easy for a script to switch it on.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017900)

And, is anyone else sick of the un-"stoppable" macromedia flash ads that suck up cpu and battery life? . . . Fuck Neumont! Fuck Flash ads!

I'm sick of Flash ads and Flash usage in general. I don't have Flash installed and I don't care to have Flash installed. While we're on the subject, STOP USING FLASH TO DISPLAY MOVIES!!! Give me an mpeg file so I can use whatever viewer I want. Stop forcing me to install an insecure product to see a movie clip or video.

I've talked about the bane of Flash before [slashdot.org] and got modded Troll and was told to get with the times but I still stick by my assertions. Flash sucks.

Telling me to get FlashBlock doesn't solve the underlying issue. All that does is add another layer of complexity to a system. Apparently web designers have abandoned the KISS principle in an attempt to prove their 1337 coding skills.

Re:or, the results of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15017918)

Amen brother.

Keep it simple (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018176)

And while we're getting rid of flash, let's get rid of all those images too! Even the text is pretty annoying when it has all those different colors and font sizes. Perhaps a monochrome terminal screen with that blinking cursor is what we really need to get back to :)

Re:Keep it simple (1)

Al Dimond (792444) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018596)

A monochrome terminal screen with a blanking cursor is truly a wonderful thing. Any correctly-written website (and even some badly-written ones) will look just fine in lynx, which allows full screen text viewing without obnoxious font changes and distracting flashing graphics, and keyboard navigation that really works. A monochrome terminal with GNU Screen is even better, because with that you can disconnect your session from the terminal and log on from a different one (even a remote one) and continue the session there! Truly a more civilized way to use a computer than these "GUI"s that people have been harping on in recent months :).

Re:or, the results of... (1)

Moofie (22272) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018679)

Without flash, there is no Homestar Runner. Without Homestar, there is no joy in Mudville.

I have an ad blocking plugin that works just fine, and I still get Homestar. Best of all possible worlds.

What ads? (1)

AnomaliesAndrew (908394) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018550)

I have never seen an ad on /.

Maybe you need to get a better hosts file.

-@

Re:or, the results of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018797)

Regarding flash ads...if you use firefox try the extension called FlashBlock

Re:or, the results of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018837)

goto tools -> manage addons - if your using internet explorer anyway, it becomes rather secure and fast as long as you modify it correctly.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

Unnamed Chickenheart (882453) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018840)

Use Firefox without Flash/Shockwave installed and Adblock for ad-free surfing.

Use Opera for Flash/Shockwave.

Re:or, the results of... (1)

chrysrobyn (106763) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018850)

And, is anyone else sick of the un-"stoppable" macromedia flash ads that suck up cpu and battery life? I see one now on /. from Neumont University... and it's using 50% of my 1.6GHz cpu, and I can't turn it off.... Fuck Neumont! Fuck Flash ads!

You're not the only one. An increasingly large number of us are doing something about it. When Flash ads started making noise, that was it. "If I want your website to make noise, I'll lick my finger and squeak it accross the screen." Check out Flashblock [mozilla.org] . Want to see the flash? Click the icon and it loads. Don't? Just look at all the icons of flash files not loaded. You can add entire domains to your whitelist if you need.

Re:or, the results of... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15019873)

Just don't install Flash. It's proprietary software that web sites require to view their site? Fuck that. There was a vulnerability or two found in Flash recently. All an attacker would have to do is change the payload to be a Linux binary, don't think you're invincible.

Another option (2, Funny)

Mattygfunk1 (596840) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017792)

Want to Experience Zero G? Stay in Bed

Yeah maybe, but I suspect most of us would be far better served by experiencing improved health at our local sports club, and the social benefits are much better too.

No way! (1)

Roadkills-R-Us (122219) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018734)

My health has improved drastically since last summer (lost almost 50 pounds, have gone from being a couch potato to doing regular exercise, had to buy an entirely new wardrobe and am about to do it again). It's terrifying. I'm going straight home, elevating the foot of my waterbed (not sure how that'll work, but they didn't mention any exceptions), and sleeping for a month, waking only to eat Little Debbies and go to the bathroom. Well, maybe for insulin shots after a week...

Hmmm sounds like an excuse to me (5, Funny)

liliafan (454080) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017804)

Sounds to me like some scientist didn't feel like going into work one day and called in with "Hi boss I can't come in today I am researching the effects of staying in bed and comparing them to the effects of zero gravity", finally someone actually came up with a way to get a grant to just stay in bed......lucky bastard.

*disclaimer: I read the article this is a joke.

Re:Hmmm sounds like an excuse to me (1)

Vokkyt (739289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017873)

It's actually a big research project he's undertaken; the next step is to test the effects of the Bed-Zero G (B0G) when combined with the effects of alcohol and cheese balls. Step three, albeit dangerous, combines the effects of long-term B0G with the effects of long term exposure to low levels of light radiation from a CRT device, as well as the brains ability to drink, eat, and comprehend images at B0G.

Re:Hmmm sounds like an excuse to me (1)

liliafan (454080) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017891)

Step 4 is to combine all of these effects and introduce a second party at this point the vague information is that the second party is called Candy is often found hanging out on street corners.

Re:Hmmm sounds like an excuse to me (1)

AcidLacedPenguiN (835552) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018828)

then step 5: ??
and step 6: profit!!

Amazing! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15017817)

I tried this out a while ago. The results were truly amazing. I found that I was no longer required to obey the laws of gravity. I simply floated wherever I wanted to go.

Re:Amazing! (1)

Ruphuz (817865) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018308)

I simply floated wherever I wanted to go

Just remember you can always do that by throwing yourself at the ground and missing...

Re:Amazing! (1)

grassy_knoll (412409) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018945)

Just don't look down! As soon as you do, you'll crash to earth!

Umm... yeah, I learned about physics from road runner cartoons.... why?

[badum-ching]

The obvious question (5, Interesting)

Oooskar (806935) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017831)

Will you experience an increase in bone and muscle mass if you sleep with your head at the higher end?

Re:The obvious question (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017906)

Probably explains why the Minbari in Babylon 5 were so much stronger, their beds were slanted with their head higher than their feet. Their explanation was that only the dead lie flat, but perhaps they were simply misleading the humans?

Re:The obvious question (2, Funny)

TWX (665546) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017975)

Probably explains why the Minbari in Babylon 5 were so much stronger, their beds were slanted with their head higher than their feet. Their explanation was that only the dead lie flat, but perhaps they were simply misleading the humans?
Really? I thought it was just because JMS wasn't good at the details when writing science fiction and that he picked a bad way to make the Minbari different and used a rather pathetic excuse to justify it...

And I actually like Babylon 5...

Re:The obvious question (1)

matt328 (916281) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017911)

Logically you would think this would be true, but have you ever slept like that? I did for a week one time while camping out, the ground wasn't perfectly level. Worst nights' sleep I've ever gotten, I constantly felt like I was falling. Had some pretty wacked out dreams, too.

Re:The obvious question (1)

Profound (50789) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018301)

I don't know about that - just because a thing causes your body harm, doesn't mean doing the opposite will do it good. Extremely cold temperatures cause you to become weak, but this doesn't mean that extremely high temperatures will make you strong.

Re:The obvious question (2, Funny)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018453)

Worst nights' sleep I've ever gotten, I constantly felt like I was falling

Wait, isn't that zero-G?

Re:The obvious question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15017927)

Only if a girl next to you is stimulating said bone and muscle...

Re:The obvious question (1)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017958)

Beijing 2008 here I come!

Re:The obvious question (1)

XMilkProject (935232) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017972)

Will you experience an increase in bone and muscle mass if you sleep with your head at the higher end?

I know it makes my bone massive.

Re:The obvious question (1)

scaryjohn (120394) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018164)

Silly! The only conclusion you can draw is that if you didn't experience the bone loss and muscle atrophy, then you didn't sleep with your head at the ass-end of the bed.

Sorry, I just aced a blogthings logic quiz without meaning to. :-)

Re:The obvious question (1)

slamb (119285) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019235)

Silly! The only conclusion you can draw is that if you didn't experience the bone loss and muscle atrophy, then you didn't sleep with your head at the ass-end of the bed.

I see your logic and raise you reading comprehension. The grandparent asked:

Will you experience an increase in bone and muscle mass if you sleep with your head at the higher end?

That was not a conclusion; it was a question. And questions that can't be resolved with logic from existing evidence are still useful; further studies can be set up.

But bear in mind that the study wasn't just about sleeping in a head-lowered position; it was about lying around in that position for 17 days. It's reasonable to ask that if a head-raised position would be better than a level one, then, but I rather doubt it'd be better than actually moving about and exercising normally.

Define 'available'. (5, Funny)

Black Parrot (19622) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017838)

> Valeri Polyakov was not available for comment at the time of going to press.

Actually he was available, but too weak to type a reply to the questions...

Figures (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15017859)

Oh, that's just great. For the last month I've had my bed propped up at the end precisely to put my head lower than my feet while I sleep. I was doing this to help counteract the edema in my legs that I've been suffering as a result of spending most of my waking hours in front of the computer.

So if I don't work on the computer all day I get fired; if I do work my legs swell; and if I prop up my bed to help my legs swelling I'll suffer muscle loss, etc.

I give up. Universe, you win.

Re:Figures (1)

Nohea (142708) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017999)

You can't give up, you have to excersise. The body was not meant to stay in a fixed position all the time - i know from experience.

I got RSI / tendinits relapse from typing in the wrong position, which i recovered over a year by changing typing position and habits, and doing weightlifting to have muscle to take the strain off the tendons. Then a few years later, i threw out my back (bulging disk) by being in sitting position too long. I did physical therapy for 6 months and learned excercises to compensate (bending spine backwards, not unlike a yoga position).

If you get health problems working "every waking hour", you can't work anyway, so make some time to do non-computer activity. I know it can seem counter-intuitive to excercise when uncomfortable or in some pain, but it really it better, as long as you don't cause injury.

Re:Figures (1)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018181)

Go to a drug and/or medical supply store. They should have some leg cuffs that use air to expand and contract around your legs. It helps promote blood flow in your legs and also breaks up clots. I've seen them in use at hospitals for patients who are in bed for more than a week.

Just what I always wanted (1)

Vapon (740778) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017901)

The answer on how to loose weight easy, just sleep upside down and you will no longer have the weight of your mussels and bones holding you back plus you won't have that annoying urge to get out and do cardiovascular activities.

Re:Just what I always wanted (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018654)

I like my mussels (especially boiled) and I won't give them up to lose weight.

As a student... (2, Funny)

DarthChris (960471) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017914)

This is MY kind of science!

Want to Experience Zero G? Stay in Bed and... (2, Funny)

digitaldc (879047) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017932)

Dream on, buddy!

Even better idea! (4, Funny)

physicsphairy (720718) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017938)

Swallow a timed explosive charge, and then with the proper inclination of sleep you can experience all the effects of being in a zero-G and zero-pressure spacelike environment!

Who's got my grant money?

Re:Even better idea! (1)

daranz (914716) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018007)

Scientists argue that you don't actually blow up when exposed directly to a no-air space environment... So, my suggestion would be to get into an industrial size fridge, and pour boiling water down your throat while lying down.

tried it (1)

Jafafa Hots (580169) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017945)

spent a few weeks in a hospital bed, and something makes me think spaceflight would cause less bedsores.

OOBE (1)

garrett714 (841216) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017947)

I experience zero Gs while laying on my bed all the time... then again in my case it's probably just all the drugs.

The same effect can be had... (2, Funny)

Billosaur (927319) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017963)

Inclining the bed at an angle of 6 degrees with the head at the lower end produces bone and muscle loss, decreases in cardiovascular activity, and reduced capacity to exercise similar to those produced by prolonged spaceflight.

Similar results can be obtained by sitting in front of your computer and playing World of Warcraft every day for 16 hours. Remember, your results may vary.

Or alternately... (3, Funny)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017966)

produces bone and muscle loss, decreases in cardiovascular activity, and reduced capacity to exercise similar to those produced by prolonged spaceflight

...we could continue our couch potato lifestyles and daily beer drinking rituals to achieve the same effect.

"No, honey, I'm not being lazy, I'm just trying to experience the effects of microgravity".

Groan. (4, Funny)

Rob T Firefly (844560) | more than 8 years ago | (#15017967)

Want to Experience Zero G? Stay in Bed

I just want to stay in bed, isn't that enough? Keep your science out of my laziness.

Hurry! Limited Time Only! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018006)

I am now selling, for a short period, a Micro-Gravity Repose Divan Simulator Kit(MGRDSK).

It comprises one (1) hacksaw to cut two of the legs off your bed, and a protractor to confirm the correct angle.

Hurry, Hurry, Hurry! All Slashdotters will want one!

But what about... (1)

Hawthorne01 (575586) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018069)

zero-g sex?

Is the reverse also true!?!?!?! (1)

eander315 (448340) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018073)

That means I can get buff by tilting the foot of the bed 6 degrees down!!!! This is going to be awesome!!! No more splindly arms and legs. I'm going to get built just by laying around in bed all day drinking protein shakes.

Re:Is the reverse also true!?!?!?! (1)

jaraxle (1707) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018711)

Beefcake!

Beeeeeeefcaaaaaaake!!!!!

~jaraxle

0-blomov (1)

Forget4it (530598) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018111)

Zero = O
O = Oblomov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblomov>


The other way? (1)

GoatMonkey2112 (875417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018129)

What if you tilt yourself the other way? Does that simulate a high gravity environment? Reduce your need for exercise?

Space trip for masochists? (2, Informative)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018184)

Why the hell would someone want to have the unwanted side effects of microgravity without the cool features? It's like selling drugs that get you addicted, give you withdrawal but no high.

But I guess the real meaning of the info is in its reversed reading. We know what microgravity does to long time astronauts. So don't stay in bed for too long periods unless you want to suffer the same way they do when they return to 1.0g areas.

Re:Space trip for masochists? (3, Funny)

kennygraham (894697) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018623)

It's like selling drugs that get you addicted, give you withdrawal but no high.

My girlfriend smokes 2 packs of those a day.

I've slept like that (1)

chrismcdirty (677039) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018199)

My friend once broke my bed frame, and I had to sleep like this for about a week until I got a new one. Not fun. Not only do your legs feel extremely weak in the morning, its also an extremely restless sleep.

Re:I've slept like that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018446)

then, why the fsck did you not, y'know, sleep the other way around?

head uphill is vastly preferable to head downhill, as any moderately experienced camper will know.

- too lazzy to un-AC

Re:I've slept like that (1)

bmalia (583394) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018930)

If my bedframe broke, I'd just put the mattress on the floor so I wouldn't have to sleep at an angle. But that's just me.

Re:I've slept like that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15019021)

Why didn't you just switch sides and sleep with your head on the elevated side?
If what you claim actually happened, switching sides would be the very first thing one would do, I call BS on this one, you just made that up.

I just tried this... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018284)

I tilted my bed 6 degrees, but now I keep rolling out. I experience zero-g for a few microseconds before hitting the floor.

Maybe I need to tilt it the other direction. At least that way my wife will cushion the fall.

Crafty (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018290)

Does that mean that spending 1/3 of my life in bed, but with my head angled 6 deg up, on a pillow, can prevent "bone and muscle loss, decreases in cardiovascular activity, and reduced capacity to exercise"?

So now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018396)

Great! Now we can stop wasting billions on space flight to investigate this and other meaningless little experiments and focus on solving real problems. How about assigning all those little geniuses to hydrogen engines or alternate fuels or better mass transit instead of wasting their talents on fruitless endeavors. Why does anyone care what the effects of zero-g are? When is the earliest we will need to care? The space program has got to be the single biggest waste of money ever conceived. I don't care what zero-g does to my body if I have to worry about some doldrum of human existence on Wall Street bidding up the price of gas because the guy next to an oil exec looks like he might have a cold. What a waste of time...something we're running out of and getting to Mars or Jupiter or where-the-hell-ever is not going alleviate that problem before it gets too big to handle.

I did this (2, Interesting)

verloren (523497) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018466)

Not voluntarily though - as a child I was diagnosed with Perthes disease [wikipedia.org] and hospitalized for a year in an inclined bed - I think the incline was to help the effects of the traction that was also applied. This was done for a year, the last few weeks of which were learning to walk again. The amount of muscle wastage was quite amazing; I was unable to stand at first, partly because I wasn't used to balancing, but mainly because I just couldn't exert that much force. I was lucky though - I went in again for a month a few years later, and one lad had been in for almost 2 years with no end in sight. A shame that recent thinking suggests it doesn't actually help. I guess this doesn't quite qualify me as an astronaut though?

I read this as ... (1)

publicmine (958014) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018486)

If you sit on your arse all day you will experiance zero G's, zero $. Yup!

Lose weight today.. (1)

mOOzilla (962027) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018512)

For all those people with BIG BONES :)

missing the point (1)

chocolateeater (955962) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018540)

Judging from the comments, it seems most /.ers are missing the point of the article.

Researchers are trying to find a way to *counter* the ill health effects of zero gravity. But since it is too costly to send test subjects up into space, they are simulating the effects by having them lay down all day. They found that the resulting health effects to come pretty darn close. From the article:
The amount of oxygen the men's bodies were able to use optimally during cycling tests declined by 10.4% in the astronauts and by 6.6% in the bedrest subjects.

Is this serious? (1)

polaralex (764908) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018606)

What's the meaning of this article? I mean, who would stay at bed for a long time to feel the symptoms of 0grav...?

duh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15018672)

What a scientific discovery! Dont move your muscles by staying in bed and loose whatever little muscles you have!!! I would have been surprised if it said "staying in bed makes strong musles!"

Yea, So (1)

Gat0r30y (957941) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018746)

This has been a standard procedure for measuring the effects of zero G's for quite a while here. The bed rest model has been used to determine the usefulness of various methods for countering the bone loss of astronauts while in zero G's. Bed rest has been used as a model for osteoporosis too. The article is mostly about the exercise counter measures they apparently developed. Unfortunately they really aren't all that innovative either. Resistance exercises and treadmill running are exactly the counter measures used now. I don't see how this is news, interesting maybe, but not news.

Dang It! (1)

JumperCables233 (916271) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018890)

Gosh darn it, I paid $4000 for this Zero-G Mattress and all I get is muscle loss.

remind me not to sleep on my couch! (1)

v3xt0r (799856) | more than 8 years ago | (#15018943)

It would explain the horrible back/neck pains that I am experiencing. =/

Again? (1)

sam0737 (648914) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019226)

Sorry I cannot cite any source...but I remember seeing documentary around 10 years ago, doing the very same experiment (by US), for the very same purpose: investigate the effect on living in Zero G.

10 participant laid on bed for a week, exactly 6 degree tilted. Bathing in horizontal container, eating on bed, watching TV on bed, anything on bed. No exercise was done. One week later, they can't even put on the socks for themselve.

Expectations (1)

olego (899338) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019404)

And here I was thinking:

"... Stay in bed and have a lucid dream about it!"

Re:Expectations (1)

DoctorEternal (189062) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019744)

Me, too!

DAMN!!! (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#15019444)

I think I'd go insane if I had to stay in an inclined bed like that for 17 days straight. Did these test subjects ever get the chance to leave the beds for even a few minutes over those 17 days? Did they even piss in the bed? Freaky.

Saw a study on this happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15019624)

My friend took part in a 2-week study back in 1997 at Hershey Medical Center. For two weeks straight, he and 7 others were confined to lying in a bed with the feet higher than the head. This was a 24-hour situation, with bed pans and everything. At the end, it took about 4 hours just for them to be able to stand. At the time, he was a very competitive swimmer (still holds two records at his old college) in terrific shape and it still took about 4 hours just to stand up after two solid weeks of lying at this incline.
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