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Pr0n's Effect On Society

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the keep-it-clean-please dept.

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Rytis writes "An article at the Financial Times is analysing the growing impact of internet pornography, the phenomena itself and the problems that it causes to our society. Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online. From the article: 'To some men, Haynes argues, clicking on porn is simply a way to pass the time. It's a hobby. Once they'd idly play solitaire; now they idly click on a porn site. Others, though, succumb to addiction: Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness, wanting to fill up dead space, and addiction is always destructive.'"

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1021 comments

Damn, pr0n in the title... (1, Redundant)

yogikoudou (806237) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034699)

and I get a "Move along, nothing to see here".

Re:Damn, pr0n in the title... (3, Informative)

big dumb dog (876383) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034760)

Internet pornography can be annoying, but it has served as a money making industry that has, at least in part, helped pay for network infrastructure.

Re:Damn, pr0n in the title... (5, Insightful)

LiquidMind (150126) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034795)

i'd even take it a step further than that...

the internet would not be where it is at today if it weren't for porn. I would bet money that if porn didn't exist, most people would still use dial-up connections as broadband would be too expensive or inaccessible.

the same goes the other way though...i would argue that the internet has driven the demand for porn.

Re:Damn, pr0n in the title... (1)

big dumb dog (876383) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034890)

Very good points.

Re:Damn, pr0n in the title... (5, Funny)

Otis2222222 (581406) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034876)

From TFA:
more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online

...And the other half are lying.

Feline Poop! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034700)

Fuck you, all you motherfucking LambdaMOOers, you! That's right, fuck y'all pornviewing tinysexing fuckheads! Damn!

I use pr0n (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034703)

... to fill up dead space on my hard drive. ^^

Mmmm, pr0n (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034708)

lovely pr0n

porn is the shit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034711)

porn is the shit

Re:porn is the shit (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034739)

Especially in Germany.

Gender (5, Interesting)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034712)

Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online.

I wonder what the split was along gender lines?

Re:Gender (4, Interesting)

mooingyak (720677) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034832)

When I read that, I just automatically assumed "half of 9-19 year old boys". Not that it says that, but it just didn't occur to me that they might have meant anything else until I read your comment. Amazing the effects that pr0n has on your cognitive process...

Re:Gender (2, Insightful)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034833)

There are always exceptions, but by and large weman don't veiw porn because their concepts of sexuality are a little more complex than most mens.

Re:Gender (2, Insightful)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034873)

Men trade love for sex
Women trade sex for love

Re:Gender (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034935)

Wow, Frosty, that +5 Insightful last week suddenly awoke the "non-trolling" side of your brain. Of course, I use the word "brain" in jest.

I'm wondering about porn mags. (4, Insightful)

khasim (1285) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034864)

So, 50% of the 9-19 year olds have seen online porn.

How many of those have also seen porn magazines?

How does that compare to previous years?

I had definately seen porn mags by the time I was 19. If the same percentage of the population have seen porn, does it matter if it's online or printed?

Re:Gender (1)

LinuxGeek (6139) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034884)

I wonder what the split was along gender lines?


Ummm, usually female. runs and hides........

This is so true (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034716)

Porn is an addition, a lot of people find the thought of that amusing, but it can have a very destructive effect on relationships, I used to have a problem with this my wife helped me get through it using the method of 'get over it or get over me', I struggled with it but I managed to survive it, I came out of it a better person, but for a long time I struggled with it, it is normal to look at porn but it is easy to become obsessed with it, this was a very very interesting article that I was able to relate to very easily.

Re:This is so true (4, Insightful)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034763)

"Porn is an addition (...) I used to have a problem"

Anecdotal evidence does not a proper study make.

Re:This is so true (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034875)

I think the article provides at least enough evidence to make further study of this worthwhile, the information I provided was opinion based on personal experience. No you are correct it doesn't make it a study it makes it a personal opinion but as a person that has worked a lot in the past with people with additions to drugs and alcohol and then having my person experience of the withdrawls of porn, I can compare it based on my experience to an addition, I found it easier to quit smoking (something I did for 15 years) than to quit porn.

But, still.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034842)

Slashdot > Porn

Re:This is so true (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034891)

Prove It.

Rationalization (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034717)

Well then, let the Anonymous Coward posting begin!

WARNING! The following message contains adult material and may offend you if you belong to any religious group or if you agreed entirely with Monty Python's song "Every Sperm Is Sacred."

I once heard a psychology professor say that 90% of men surveyed anonymously admit to masturbating. The other 10% are lying.

You can either agree with that or deny it, I don't care. But I would like to point out that this behavior has its advantages for society. Yes, that's right, I said advantages.

Young men are reaching sexual maturity before they're reaching mental maturity. The fact that many of them grow up in highly populated areas doesn't help. Oftentimes young parents without the resources or attitude to raise a child give birth and this subsequently results (usually) in an imperfect forced marriage or a child whose parents are not married. In either case, much more stress is placed on the developing youngster than the child needs and this can often lead down the road to delinquency or misbehavior.

There are also sexually transmitted diseases to worry about in the world. You usually don't catch anything from your hand.

Pornography functions as an alternative to fornication. And I'm talking about regular good old fashion hetero or homosexual adult (above 18) porn. Hardcopies (magazines and videos) of pornography seems risky. You have to store them and purchase them--they leave a paper trail. But internet pornography is accessible and can often be acquired for free. It doesn't leave such an obvious trail back to the user.

Yes, it's unhealthy to pass up healthy relationships for internet pornography but for young men (and probably women) who are prematurely sexually active, it probably acts as a safe alternative to non-monogamous relationships.

These are in no way scientific conclusions but it seems logical that many men would choose internet pornography to fill the sexual needs anyone who has testicles often develops.

Sorry to sound like Dr. Ruth but that's my thoughts on the subject. It doesn't bother me or make me feel gross or creepy that men all around are probably using internet pornography. It's just a safety valve for most of them and a better solution than being promiscuous.

Re:Rationalization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034838)

When I was a teenager, all I needed was a mail order catalogue that had few pics of women in their underwear - and most of the time I didn't even need that - just thinking of a hot teacher or whatever was more than enough.

Re:Rationalization (3, Interesting)

Brigadier (12956) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034867)


Interesting argument. Though I agree to an extent I don't think your on the ball on this one. A recipercal effect though is that children exposed to pr0n will be exposed to sex much earlier and thus go looking for it. I know this sounds like some concervitive cop out but I do think there is some merrit. Let's say you have two kids one who grew up playing ball, hanging out with friends having crushes on girls. Then boy two who spends much of his time on the computer looking at pr0n and jerking off. Social development is paramout. Someone who spends much time looking at pr0n will develope a reclusive attitude and thus not have the same social development. I also believe that looking at pr0n does affect how you persieve the opposit sex. I say this all based on just being a teen myself and growing up, and having my own son. I'm a single dad, i'm not an idealist concervitive I'm just being honest. Sitting at home beeting it off to porn is not benificial in ones overall development.

Re:Rationalization (2, Insightful)

eln (21727) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034932)

A recipercal effect though is that children exposed to pr0n will be exposed to sex much earlier and thus go looking for it.


Oh come on, young boys go looking for sex as soon as they notice that girls make them feel all funny in the crotch.

I came of age prior to Internet porn really being available, and at the age of 13 I would have had sex with pretty much any woman that let me, and so would every other boy of that age.

The hormones go nuts, and the kids need some sort of outlet for that. Some have sex, some become aggressive, and some go through boxes of Kleenex in the bathroom. Which one of those is the more healthy solution?

Re:Rationalization (2, Funny)

tbcpp (797625) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034942)

I agree here totally. The needed "safety valve" is a good way to expend energy, and be creative. When you keep busy that energy that is normally given to the sex drives is diverted elsewhere. Some say mastubation is better than outright sex. They may be right. But I say simply diverting that sexual energy and waiting to even think about sex until your married is better. I think the most wonderful thing a man could offer a woman on their wedding night is the assurance that he has never lusted over another woman in his life. That's almost impossible. But being a virgin until your wedding night is just as important. That is my goal, and I am working the other.

Re:Rationalization (5, Funny)

Stradenko (160417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034894)

To paraphrase the parent:

Safe sex is in your hands.

Re:Rationalization (1)

j00r0m4nc3r (959816) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034949)

Pornography has much broader social and ethical implications than just whether or not men masturbate, and functions as more than just an "alternative to fornication." I'm not saying is isn't these things, but these are just the surface of what it represents and its effects.

Like playing solitaire? (5, Funny)

clevershark (130296) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034718)

Heck, looking at pr0n is "playing solitaire", if you know what I mean...

Re:Like playing solitaire? (5, Funny)

neersign (956437) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034737)

wanting to fill up dead space

and that dead space is usually a tissue

Re:Like playing solitaire? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034746)

mod parent +5 funny.. that's bloddy hillarious

pr0n as a hobby. (1, Redundant)

nastybastard (918354) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034720)

Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness And you'll definitely be empty with a hobby like pr0n. :)

Re:pr0n as a hobby. (1)

johnny cashed (590023) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034793)

You just have to go pro. Easily said, I'm still working on the implementation.

survey says... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034723)

Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online.

And the other half are lying. Or producing pr0n online.

Re:survey says... (4, Insightful)

eln (21727) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034859)

It's the age range. Sure, 50% of kids 9-19 have viewed Internet porn, but I bet close to 100% of kids that are, say, 14-19 have.

Seriously, I don't get what the big deal is. 9 may be a little young to view porn, but I'd rather catch my 15 year old masturbating to Internet porn than impregnating or being impregnated by someone else.

Only half... (4, Interesting)

XFilesFMDS1013 (830724) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034726)

Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online.

And the other half lied.

But seriously, what's with the title, "pr0n"? How old are we here? Call it porn, or don't talk about it at all.

Once they'd idly play solitaire; now they idly click on a porn site.

And for others, its just the reverse, porn has lost its luster for me, I play solitaire heavily now. Don't get me wrong, I still look at porn, but sometimes its just so boring.

So solitaire has become a replacement (1)

Wootzor von Leetenha (938602) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034787)

I enjoy solitaire also, but you must really enjoy it :)

Re:So solitaire has become a replacement (1)

XFilesFMDS1013 (830724) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034879)

Well, I did just break 13000 or so....so yeah, I do enjoy it.

Re:Only half... (5, Funny)

HTL2001 (836298) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034841)

"But seriously, what's with the title, "pr0n"? How old are we here? Call it porn, or don't talk about it at all."

http://bash.org/?627168 [bash.org]
<Cobra> so i was watching a pr0n
<Thunder> wait
<Thunder> why u guys always say pr0n instead of porn ??
Thunder has been kicked by Guardian (No porn on this channel !)
<Cobra> ...
<Cobra> so i was watching a pr0n

Re:Only half... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034901)

ROFLCOPTR

Re:Only half... (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034916)

Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online.

And the other half lied.


Interestingly, in some math classes, "all" is more than half.

Good to know! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034727)

It is good to know I am not the only addict!

Addiction Is Not Destructive! (5, Funny)

Dante Shamest (813622) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034729)

Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness, wanting to fill up dead space, and addiction is always destructive.'"

Porn not bad. I can good still type.

Re:Addiction Is Not Destructive! (1)

andrew_j_w (630799) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034804)

At least you can still use your fingers.

I'm having to type this with my nose.

wanting to fill up dead space ? (1)

cyber_rigger (527103) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034824)

Wouldn't that be necrophilia?

Re:Addiction Is Not Destructive! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034847)

Hey, did you also from falipornia institute of speak good graduate? Class what were you in?

Re:Addiction Is Not Destructive! (3, Funny)

DaveM753 (844913) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034852)

You should try your other hand: it'll feel like someone else is typing.

Re:Addiction Is Not Destructive! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034855)

Yes, I can good still type - with one hand now

Re:Addiction Is Not Destructive! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034889)

mike? is that you?

Throw them on the barbie (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034730)

Yeah those prawns are killers!

estimates (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034733)

Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online.

Yes, I'd say that's believable. :)

Sure, try to tell your boss they're the same... (4, Funny)

Flounder (42112) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034738)

Once they'd idly play solitaire; now they idly click on a porn site.

But until you can look at porn while sitting on hold for tech support at work, it's just not the same.

Come on (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034747)

The sole genetic purpose for our existence is breeding. We think about sex. A lot. We always have. We always will. There has always been porn. There always will be porn. From cave painting to 3d holographic renderings, we will reflect the human condition. Stop denying our nature and making it a bigger deal than it is. I remember first finding my dad's Swedish erotica on 8mm film. Future generations will survive whatever new technology brings and the worriers will have something new to fret over in their do-nothing do-gooder lives.

Re:Come on (0, Troll)

Spy der Mann (805235) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034815)

The sole genetic purpose for our existence is breeding.

Cool, from being rational beings capable of creating works of Art like the David or Mona Lisa, we're downgraded to sex-hungry animals. Keep it going, Mr. Darwin.

Re:Come on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034920)

And why do you think people create great works of art? Birds have brilliant plumage, humans have art. It's all means to the ultimate end of getting laid.

Re:Come on (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034930)

Genes and mitocondria and all that other crap don't give a whit about the next Picasso. And they have alot more influence on humans than external motivations. Go without food for a week and see how rational you still are.

The Reason (1)

SpottedKuh (855161) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034748)

Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online.

That's because approximately half of 9-19 year olds are male. Add in the fact that even women get penis enlargement emails, and bingo: we're at "more than half."

Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034762)

"Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness"

I'm addicted to life. Deep man. Deep.

Not a problem (5, Insightful)

ranton (36917) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034764)

I do not see how seeing pornography is a problem at all for our youth. While 9 may be a little too young, I definetly do not see the problem with 11 or 12 year olds viewing it.

We allow our children to see violent imagery everywhere, from our games to the news. But we are so violently against sexual imagery. I know that as a child I was much more curious about girls and sex before I finally discovered both pornography and masturbation. I was able to be a functioning male teenager because I did not need to be overly preocupied with sex.

Would you rather more children start having sex at the age of 12? Or would you rather them find some pornographic pictures online and spend some "quality" time alone in their bedroom once every few nights? Humans are wired to start having sex long before 18, so we either give them an outlet or start having alot more teen pregnancies.

--

Re:Not a problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034929)

Would you rather more children start having sex at the age of 12? Or would you rather them find some pornographic pictures online and spend some "quality" time alone in their bedroom once every few nights?

What I love about Slashdot: false dichotomy gets modded insightful. As long as it supports the Slashdot consensus worldview.

Re:Not a problem (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034948)

some "quality" time alone in their bedroom once every few nights?

Don't be an underacheiver! You can hit up to four or five times a day, easy.

Golden age for us perverts (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034766)

Some of you slashdotters are too young to remember a time where instant pr0n wasn't available, and let me tell you it was the dark ages. Back in those olden days, you could only get pr0n through 2 methods ... a. buy it at a local book/magazine store or b. break into your uncle's cache. Now method a. would often invoke the unwanted stares of disgust from little old ladies in line and method b. could lead to an ass whooping.

In conclusion, online pr0n is the greatest thing since the discovery of fire.

Bad thing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034772)

I think this 'porn-addiction' thing isn't new, the fact you have it at your.. fingertips.. you can find anything you are looking for and most importantly:

It's usually free. Don't have to pay for it, and it's entirely private.

Is there really anything bad about young people interested in sex finding this stuff? I'd imagine it's more healthy tha drilling holes in walls, peeking through windos or trying to get into the girls changeroom.

Significant change (5, Interesting)

kongjie (639414) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034773)

In the past--the seventies and eighties--there was a lot of debate about porn, especially in the advent of increased attention on women's rights.

However, now we have a completely different context. The prevalence of porn is amazing and so is its accessibility.

It is becoming very clear that teenagers are conducting themselves (sexually) in a very different way from their parents or even probably older siblings. The recent case of the (Georgia?) teen who was convicted of a sex crime that was videotaped is a good example of this. I'm not debating about whether or not he committed a crime--I'm just discussing it in the context of the video.

In the seventies we had makeout parties, sure, but it was really rare to have people taking their clothes off and having sex in the open, orgy-style; it obviously was even more rare to take photos or film it, since the technology to view those photos or films without them being developed outside the home was absent.

Tagging (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034781)

As with all stories with a porn theme, I've tagged this one with the tag "boobies". If you all do the same it will really help those of us who require our porn slashdot themes and can filter based on tags (When/if that goes live)

while most (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034782)

...It's a hobby. Once they'd idly play solitaire; now they idly click on a porn site. Others, though, succumb to addiction: Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness, wanting to fill up dead space, and addiction is always destructive.'

While most don't have the imagination to masturbate without the playboy channel.

Because Porn is organized on the Web (2, Interesting)

displague (4438) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034784)

What else can you download, rent, or pay-per-minute as well as porn on the internet? Hotmovies.com [hotmovies.com] , for example has over 35,000 movies to choose from. Why doesn't BlockBuster offer something like this? iTunes is a step in the right direction, but I still can't watch recent releases of the shows or movies I like.

Effect On Society (5, Funny)

tjw (27390) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034790)

There is no doubt that internet pornography has a negative effect on Society. I witness it daily.

This message is for you fellow customers of AceDSL: Stop all the downloads. I'm trying to play ET and you're killing my ping. You're not the only one with addictions you know.

If we have any hope of salvaging our society you must redeem yourselves! Remember, the first path towards salvation is moderation, so start rate limiting.

BFD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034791)

Surveys within Great Britain have shown that more than a half of 9-19 years olds have seen pornography online.

And 30 years ago, a survey probably would have shown that almost 100% of 9-19 yr olds had seen pronography at the local liquor store or in their big brother's room.

And the best thing about a PSP is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034796)

not that it has a great, full-color screen, WiFi and has an Internet browser -- but that you can use it one-handed!

If porn does harm society... (5, Insightful)

ThinkFr33ly (902481) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034802)

... it's only because our society's attitude toward sexuality is morbid and ridiculous.

The idea that seeing a naked human being, or even seeing people having sex, would somehow "harm" a person is completely silly.

Thanks to the abhorrent way our society has rejected natural sexuality by demonizing it and calling it "dirty" it kind of make sense that exposure to it would cause "harm".

Kind of the way our society puts a forbidden stigma around alcohol consumption for people under the age of 21.

In many countries wine and beer are a normal part of life and young people are exposed to it accordingly. You don't typically see alcoholism problems or alcohol abuse in general in these countries.

In the United States, it's taboo. And anything taboo is simply irresistible to young people. The end result is a pattern of excess and abuse.

Sex and sexuality are not bad things. Can there be bad consequences to uncontrolled sexuality? Sure. Same goes for uncontrolled lawn mowing, or uncontrolled hand washing. The point is that if our society didn't make it taboo, normal exposure to it wouldn't be "harmful".

Obviously there are exceptions. Exposing a 6 year old to scenes of graphic rape fantasies would probably be a bad idea. But exposing that same child to a naked form won't harm them at all.

Think about this. What existed first? Sexual thoughts, or porn? (To paraphrase Bill Hicks.) Porn exists because humans have sexual thoughts, not the other way around. R.I.P. Bill.

havng hrd timee typynng vith une hadn... (0, Redundant)

webword (82711) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034807)

.....too7o extciitd byy slishdit psost!@!

Here we go again... (5, Insightful)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034809)

Just replace "pr0n" with "video games", "beer", "marijuana", etc. and you basically have the same story. It's what keeps politicians employed, and children safe supposedly.

Re:Here we go again... (1)

Stargoat (658863) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034898)

MOD PARENT UP

Addictions... (3, Insightful)

chill (34294) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034812)

Just about ANYTHING can be addictive, so vilifying porn as addictive is just blowing so much smoke. I've seen studies that claim exercise, jogging, gambling, video games, food, sex, etc. are all "addicting".

The issue is people who are susceptible to addiction will get addicted on whatever happens to be available be it porn or Everquest or chocolate or cigarettes.

I see porn as less damaging than gambling as there is so much free porn available there really isn't any reason to blow large chunks of cash on it. It is also less problematic than cigarettes, alcohol or drugs.

As far as damaging relationships, I don't see it as any more damaging that ANY addicted obsession. If some guy spends 6-8 hours a day on the computer playing WoW, he certainly is going to have relationship problems.

  -Charles

Re:Addictions... (1)

rehtonAesoohC (954490) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034854)

If some guy spends 6-8 hours a day on the computer playing WoW, he certainly is going to have relationship problems.

You're assuming that his wife/significant other does not play WoW.

Pron warriror (1)

thelamer (964355) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034820)

Pron is not only an adiction it is ruining americas computers . I do a lot of format jobs at college . And I would say the number one reason that computers get screwed is from people trying to pirate porn on the gnutella 1 network ( mostly limewire ) PORN.EXE IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS !!!!!! God people are such noobs .

Heh (1)

hnile_jablko (862946) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034834)

wanting to fill up dead space
Precisely!!!

Is that a Gigabyte in your pants? (1)

orthogonal (588627) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034835)

"Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness, wanting to fill up dead space...."

Well, I have filled up my hard drive.

Western Digital and Separate thank the porn industry.

The Golden Age of Grotesque (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034849)

I look at porn and have since my early teens. My wife looks at porn (suicidegirls almost exclusively). All of my ex-girlfriends have been into porn, one of them even to the point of "making her own" (for herself only unfortunately!).

We also all drink alcohol. It doesn't mean we're alcoholics.

Is it an addiction if you write a perl script? (1)

SauroNlord (707570) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034850)

You know... to harvest the mounds of pr0n sites and organize them according to category.

Uh huh... (1)

kenthorvath (225950) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034856)

Once they'd idly play solitaire; now they idly click on a porn site. Others, though, succumb to addiction: Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness, wanting to fill up dead space, and addiction is always destructive.

And as everyone knows - solitaire is in no way addicting....

Passing Time... (1)

u16084 (832406) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034869)

Times HAVE changed.. I'm sure EVERYONE remembers walking into a drug store/pharmacy buying condoms... Everyone would just give you "the look". Now, they pass them out in 8th grade.

Everyone makes it sound like PORN is so evil. - When i say PORN I include all responsible gay/lesbian/straight type porn I'm not going to branch off into the weird (or illegal) content.

Personally, Porn has enhanced My marriage... Threw in some extra spice, maybe even a "lets try that".

People need to get over it, as a elected offical is passing a new bill against porn, hes going to his girl/boy friends house and bending him/her over. Time to wake up.

As Bart Simpson put it (1)

klenwell (960296) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034871)

Nothing can compare with a young boy's imagination.

You cannot replace anything with nothing... (1, Interesting)

tbcpp (797625) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034872)

As Jesus said: When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth [it] empty, swept, and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last [state] of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation. (from Matt 12)

My point here is, that porn addictions can only be overcome if somthing is used to replace it (specificly Christ). And porn is an addiction. I was there for awhile. And I still struggle with the temptation from time to time. But in reality people are only looking on the outside of the issue. The reality is that Satan has come to this earth to steal, kill and destroy (john 10:10). His goal is to destory a man (or woman) in whatever way possible. Weither that is though porn, drugs, or the occult doesn't really matter to him. As long as he can get one more soul to go to Hell, he is happy.

Okay, I'm ranting, I know. But I have to say this: Contrary to common view men are not animals. We have the ability to rule our minds and spirits. To be able to make a decision based on more than "what makes us feel good". The danger I see with porn is that it reduces the human race (and specificly women) to mere animals. We loose our dingnity. Life is more than sex. Marriage is more than sex, it is about a relationship. Porn causes us to view only the outside of a woman (or man) and no further.

Okay, flame if you want, but that's my view

Re:You cannot replace anything with nothing... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034910)

Thanks for at least being honest about your agenda. I hate it when people try to pretend that the anti-porn stance is justifiable in any way at all from a secular point of view.

Hypocrisy (3, Insightful)

Expert Determination (950523) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034880)

Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness
Sounds like a typical female sexual fantasy to me. Guys who masturbate are in need of a good woman to fill their lives yada, yada, yada. It's funny how women can get away with this kind of patronising crap. If a guy published a typical male fantasy in an article, like "lesbians are only lesbians because they haven't yet experienced a good shag", it would be considered offensive. But women can get away with it. In fact, that sums up the whole discussion about pornography: men want porn, women don't, but society judges porn to be bad because it is in fact women who determine the ethics of our society.

If that's the case... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15034886)

"Most addictions are to do with internal emptiness, wanting to fill up dead space, and addiction is always destructive."

Can somebody explain this rationale in terms of coffee? I mean, I kind of get the first two, but the last one is a little hard to believe, given the extent of this particular addiction world-wide, and its incorporation into part of the work routine for a great many people.

addiction? (1)

ldeviator (520685) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034887)

"pr0n is not a drug, i use to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction man. you ever suck some dick for pr0n?"

pr0n effects on society? (1)

vertinox (846076) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034899)

I'm sure the effects are better than rape, murder, and rampant violence does to people.

Re:pr0n effects on society? (1)

SauroNlord (707570) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034922)

...not if levels of pr0n viewing are involved in a causal relationship with violent and sexual crimes. I think it is still an open question? We have strong correletory evidence, but a correlation is just that and is not proof.

What is next in their agenda? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034902)

Will they next say Booze is bad for us and draft a constitutional amendment to ban it?

Effects of sex on the society (1)

jonfr (888673) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034906)

Are there harmful effects from sex on the society? Far as i can tell there are none. Effects of p0rn on the society, i doubt that there are one.

From selective data comes selective resaults.

bullshit from TFA (1)

Cili (687222) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034914)

bullshit from TFA:
The implication is that the human brain is hardwired to crave porn. Given the opportunity, we may all have the potential to become addicts.
Humans are hardwired to crave SEX. Porn just makes it more accessible than the real thing (albeit in a virtual way). When a couple have a healthy relationship, none of them needs to fill any 'emptyness' whith on-line fantasies. That's the partner's monopoly and, to a degree, responsability.

I know it has an effect on me... (1)

eno2001 (527078) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034926)

...just looking down at my pants now I can DEFINITELY see it has an effect on me. Speaking as a male of course. ;P

Looking at this the wrong way. (1)

minusthink (218231) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034938)

It's really not how pornography affects society, it's how society affects pornography. It's not as if we are being bombarded with porn from above, pornography is created because society demands it.

Addiction? (5, Insightful)

drgonzo59 (747139) | more than 8 years ago | (#15034947)

In college I took Human Sexuality as a free elective during my senior year. The professor, as well as the author of the textbook we used, were very adamant about telling us that sexual addiction is not real. It is not scientific, it is used by those crazy conservative christians (aliteration pun intended...) to scare everyone and control them.

But somehow I don't believe him, I have heard of people who have ruined their marriage by becoming addicted to pr0n, some have been fired for looking at pr0n while at work. If that is not the behavior of an addict then I don't know what is. One definition of addiction states: "compulsion or overpowering urge to use a substance, regardless of potential or actual harm", most of the definitions imply that there has to be a substance involved, but in the case of pr0n the substances are the neurotransmitters in the brain.

In fact any activity that involves a powerfull release of certain neurotransmitters (serotonin, dopamin) into the pleasure centers of the brain can become "an addiction" -- it can be food, it can playing games, gambling etc.

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