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Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the i-never-get-the-cool-invites dept.

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theodp writes to mention a C|Net article about Chinese President Hu Jintao's historic first visit to the U.S.. The catch is that his first dinner won't be at the White House. It will be at Bill Gates' manse. From the article: "The approximately 100-person guest list is a who's who of the U.S. Pacific Northwest power elite, including Starbucks Chairman Howard Schultz and Washington state Gov. Christine Gregoire, said event organizers. The guests will undergo strict security checks before entering Gates' lodge-style, 66,000-square-foot home overlooking Lake Washington with a reported seven bedrooms, six kitchens, 24 bathrooms, a domed library, a reception hall and an artificial estuary stocked with salmon and trout. Gates and Gregoire are expected to introduce and welcome Hu, who will then offer a toast in front of the gathering."

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Oh boy, here we go.... (4, Funny)

BWJones (18351) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136525)

Rather than reference the classic movie starring Sydney Poitier, Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn, I imagine this would be a more appropriate dialogue.

Rove: "Sir, Hu is going to be attending a dinner at one of your biggest campaign contributors houses, Mr. Bill Gates."

Bush: "Who?"

Rove: "Yessir, Hu."

Bush: "No, I'm asking you..... Who's coming to the US to have dinner with Geeky Gates?"

Rove: "That's right sir, Hu."

Bush: "...............Daggummit Turd Blossom! I'm asking you who is coming to the US to have dinner with Geeky Gates?"

Ad nauseum

Re:Oh boy, here we go.... (1)

brian0918 (638904) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136600)

THIRD BASE!

Re:Oh boy, here we go.... (1, Insightful)

Anpheus (908711) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136742)

Somehow, I don't see Bill Gates being a big contributor to George Bush.

Re:Oh boy, here we go.... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136843)

Bill Gates, no. Microsoft, oh yes. That's the whole point of the antitrust proceedings. You don't sit on billions in cash without giving Uncle Sam and the powers to be a nice cut. Microsoft's contributions to the political process went from nothing to a whole lot more because of the antitrust proceedings.

Re:Oh boy, here we go.... (2, Funny)

sunwolf (853208) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136806)

Bush: What about when? Rove: Wen? Bush: Yes, when. Rove: I don't know if the Premier is coming. Bush: Who asked about the Premier, damnit! Rove: Oh, did he? I assume he would know. Bush: Who? Rove: Yes, Hu would know Wen. Bush: Don't make me feed you a pretzel.

Re:Oh boy, here we go.... (5, Funny)

sunwolf (853208) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136813)

Uh...properly spaced, that would be:

Bush: What about when?
Rove: Wen?
Bush: Yes, when.
Rove: I don't know if the Premier is coming.
Bush: Who asked about the Premier, damnit!
Rove: Oh, did he? I assume he would know.
Bush: Who?
Rove: Yes, Hu would know Wen.
Bush: Rove...
Rove: Yes?
Bush: Don't make me feed you a pretzel.

Re:Oh boy, here we go.... (1)

the MaD HuNGaRIaN (311517) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136863)

ROFL Mod Parent Up......

This and the first parent are the funniest posts I've seen on slashdot for quite some time.

More pressure to move to Red Flag Linux? (2, Interesting)

Tontoman (737489) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136532)

Apparently this is a culmination of of Microsoft's effort to reduce software piracy in China [rcpmag.com] .
Founder Technology President Qi Dongfeng said the company would buy $250 million worth of licenses for a Chinese version of Windows over the next three years, to be used on computers sold in China. The two companies also agreed to work together to promote the use of genuine versions of Windows.

The agreement, which company officials signed at Microsoft's Redmond headquarters, follows high-level talks Tuesday between U.S. and Chinese officials in which China pledged to crack down on piracy and require computers to use legal software. Piracy is thought to be extremely widespread in China, hampering Microsoft's efforts to make money in the vast and growing market.

The signing ceremony also comes ahead of a visit next week by Chinese President Hu Jintao, who will visit Microsoft headquarters and dine at the home of Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.

Re:More pressure to move to Red Flag Linux? (1)

cwsulliv (522390) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136675)

After this meeting I imagine Red Flag Linux will be toast.

The word is MANSION (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136538)

The summary at this time uses the phrase "Bill Gates' manse." This is clearly a subversive attempt to evoke "goatse," a web site formerly located at goatse.cx which features explicit sexual acts involving goats.

Please do not think of sexual acts involving mans as a result of this article. Thank you.

Re:The word is MANSION (1)

Anpheus (908711) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136753)

Actually, it shows that the author's writer subscribes to one or more 'word (of the/a) day' collections, and the word "manse" was in fact a recent word of the day.

Re:The word is MANSION (2, Informative)

PC-PHIX (888080) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136817)

So many inaccuracies, it's hard to know where to start...

The word is MANSION

Actually, mansion is a totally different word, I suspect they really did mean "manse".

However, I'll admit to *almost* emailing the editor to correct it, the difference being, I decided to check my facts first...

Manse (noun): A large and imposing residence.

Mansion (noun): A large stately house, a manor house.

Given the description of the house and the person we generally believe Bill Gates to be, "large and imposing" works a little better than "stately" and the old-fashioned images generally associated with "a manor house" don't gel well with the lifestyle and tastes of a software billionaire.

The summary at this time uses the phrase "Bill Gates' manse." This is clearly a subversive attempt to evoke "goatse," a web site formerly located at goatse.cx which features explicit sexual acts involving goats.

Since we've cleared up the meaning of the word 'manse' and we can assume it was used deliberately, in so far as it is a valid choice, why is this an attempt to subvert the meaning of the article?

In fact, why would you believe that having the same two letters at the end of a word automatically links the two concepts in some way? How many other words ending in 'se' also make you think of goatse??

"sexual acts involving goats" ??? I think not...

Perhaps you should read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goatse.cx [wikipedia.org]

Actually, save yourself some time and click this [google.com.au] .

WARNING TO EVERYONE ELSE - DO NOT CLICK THAT LINK!

Re:The word is MANSION (1)

Skreems (598317) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136856)

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=manse [reference.com]

Reference.com defines "manse" as "A large stately residence." I think it's just a matter of which dictionary you're looking at, but the term doesn't seem to be out of line.

It's all down to relevance ... (2, Insightful)

Infernal Device (865066) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136544)

Given what they're probably going to discuss (opening markets, etc.), Gates and the NPE (Northwest Power Elite) are probably more relevant than the President, since they've got all the money.

Who does number 2 work for (5, Funny)

fxer (84757) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136548)

with a reported seven bedrooms, six kitchens, 24 bathrooms, a domed library, a reception hall and an artificial estuary stocked with salmon and trout.

I bet the 1:3.4 ratio of sleeping to dumping at Gates' place has to be the highest in the nation.

Re:Who does number 2 work for (3, Funny)

appleLaserWriter (91994) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136591)

I bet the 1:3.4 ratio of sleeping to dumping at Gates' place has to be the highest in the nation.

Didn't you know Bill likes to host bathroom-orgies?

Re:Who does number 2 work for (5, Funny)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136654)

Maybe he just expects everyone to be full of shit when they come a'courtn him.

Re:Who does number 2 work for (1)

Ecko7889 (882690) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136762)

Maybe he just expects everyone to be full of shit when they come a'courtn him.

props on that one

Re:Who does number 2 work for (1, Funny)

QuickFox (311231) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136680)


This proves that Gates just pretends to be one of us geeks. A real geek would never bathe that much.

-- --
  Terrorists can destroy our trains and buildings, but they can't destroy our rights and our freedom. Only we and our lawmakers can destroy that.

Re:Who does number 2 work for (2, Funny)

ozmanjusri (601766) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136727)

with a reported seven bedrooms, six kitchens, 24 bathrooms, a domed library, a reception hall...

Where do you think the spyware's been installed?

Mutated Trout from The Evil Empire. (3, Funny)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136734)

artificial estuary stocked with salmon and trout.

I'll bet those trout are ill tempered and have lasers on their heads. Hey, the work for Microsoft so they have to be in a bad mood. Everyday is a bad day, then they serve you for dinner when they "fucking kill" you as they've done before and will do again.

It's nice to see the head of Evil Industry's Starbuck's division getting some publicity and credit. Number two's idea there was quite profitable.

Gates, stroking a bald cat: "Do you like my quasi futuristic clothing, Chairman Hu? I designed them myself."

Chairman Hu: "Ah yes, they are much like Chairman Mao's favorites, but he liked drab blue."

Master Gates: "A toast then, to $400,000,000 and the drab."

-clink-clink-

Chairman Hu: "I have a thing for Red."

Flunky S. Baller: "Tell me you are not talking about Red Flag Linux!" Perspiration half moons show under his arms.

Chairman Hu: "I am."

Baller, raising chair "I'm going to fucking kill Linus. I've done it before and -"

Master Gates slaps Baller on the back of the head: "Down boy!" Turns and smiles. "He's a little fired up tonight."

Baller: "I love this company! I work in the swamp. Though I do not fall in the trenches of coding, I am yet a soldier! Developers, Developers, Developers!"

Master Gates laughs and pats Baller on the head. Yes, this is my favorite number two.

Everyone laughs.

Figures (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136551)

China's system of statist capitalism is neatly breaking new ground in erasing the dividing line between what it means to rule a country and what it means to own a country. Someone like Bill Gates or Rupert Murdoch probably more correctly approximates the role of the Chinese President at this point than George W. Bush does.

Talk about nouveau riche (1, Insightful)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136552)

Doesn't anyone have values anymore? I'm not against all consumption, or even against all conspicuous consumption, but when it gets to the point where there's no longer even any pretext I think it shows a lack of character.

Re:Talk about nouveau riche (1)

AK__64 (740022) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136577)

True dat. On the other hand, Bill and Melinda were Time Magazine's People of the Year last year, IIRC. Based on their history for charitable giving. Gates also happens to be, you might have heard this someplace before, the most wealthy man on the planet...

I still agree with you though that he had better live a simple life, in touch with the real world, instead of off in his castle. MO, for what it's worth.

Re:Talk about nouveau riche (2, Informative)

BWJones (18351) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136594)

I'm not against all consumption, or even against all conspicuous consumption, but when it gets to the point where there's no longer even any pretext I think it shows a lack of character.

Then you should not look into the latest retirement package of the CEO of Exxon. He received a $400 Million package that works out to what...... over $1,095,000/day over the past year?

Rotten but small scale. (1)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136836)

you should not look into the latest retirement package of the CEO of Exxon. He received a $400 Million package that works out to what...... over $1,095,000/day over the past year?

That's small time next to Bill's $40 billion, dollars skimmed in part from companies like Exxon. Exxon at least makes gasoline and other petrochemicals.

Also, when is the last time you heard Exxon flaunting it like this? The press release contained details about the freaking meal, smoked foul salad and all that. It's like reading some kind or sycophantic Roman historian's accounts of the big, noble beams in Nero's new palace. Have a nice meal, fine who cares? Blowing your own horn about it and your palatial 24 bathroom house in a press release is tasteless.

Re:Rotten but small scale. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136903)

Also, when is the last time you heard Exxon flaunting it like this?

"Flaunting it"? Who is flaunting anything? Did you see this in the CNN front page? NYT perhaps? The Boston Globe? AP? Reuters?

This is just "news" because diminished individuals like yourself can have yet another flame fest at the expense and profit of Slashdot. Nothing more.

Re:Talk about nouveau riche (1)

YU Nicks NE Way (129084) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136750)

The thing to know about Gates' palace is that the "family quarters" actually cover only about 3000 sq. ft., deep inside the fortress. (Don't be too harsh about that: his kids have gotten kidnapping and death threats over the years.) While 3K sq. ft. certainly isn't small, it's hardly palatial. Most of the 66K sq feet are essentially a public space for receptions.

nouveau riche parenting skillz. (1)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136895)

While 3K sq. ft. certainly isn't small, it's hardly palatial.

Yeah, the house arrest must be for their own protection. Is Steve Baller so careful with his? Will Bill keep his own safe from Ipod and Google [forevergeek.com] ?

Inside the Baller residence, Steve is fishing around under his son's bed. His son fidgets helplessly.

Steve finds a CD, pulls it out and thrust it in his son's face. "What's this, son?!"

Steve Jr: "It's ... it's my homework."

Steve: "No it's not. I can tell you are lying to me. What is it?"

Steve Jr: "It's porn. I'm sorry, and I won't do it again. Let's just throw it away and forget about it."

Steve, now spitting: "What kind of moron do you think I am? Do I have to boot it? You though you were using an anonymizer to download this filth, but it was my proxy. Now tell me what it is!"

Steve Jr, now crying and crushed: "It's Linux."

Steve falls on the floor, clutching his chest.

Steve Jr, hysterical: "Dad! no!

Steve, weakly: "I thought it was Firefox, I saw the signatures. Oh. my. God. How long has this been going on?"

Jr: "Not long. I swear, I only booted it once. A developer told me -"

Steve grasps his son by the shirt, regaining strength: "That's it. I'm going to give you all the tools you will ever need. Developers are what is going to save this family. I love this family! Developers, Developers, Developers!" Rising now with his fist in the air, "With God as my Witness, you will never be hungry again!"

Re:nouveau riche parenting skillz. (1)

willyhill (965620) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136911)

Ah, yes. We've seen your humour [slashdot.org] before. It's not funny now, either.

Re:Talk about nouveau riche (1)

dwater (72834) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136835)

Yeah, that's what I thought.

As a Linux user living in China, I'd've thought Chairman Hu would have had better judgment than to visit Mr Gates', the person who's single-handedly done more damage to the computer industry than anyone else.

Oh yes, it's Easter, a time when I am reminded that I should forgive....not so easy sometimes.

This is disrespectful (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136554)

to Sidney Poitier's character John Prentice in "Guess who's coming to dinner". It's also a poor analogy. Zonk, are you stoned?

Re:This is disrespectful (1)

soupdevil (587476) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136630)

Guess Who.

Guest Hu.

It's a joke.

Re:This is disrespectful (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136748)

"This is disrespectful to Sidney Poitier's character John Prentice in "Guess who's coming to dinner". It's also a poor analogy. Zonk, are you stoned?"

It was a Star Trek reference, double dumb ass.

Wait a minute. (0)

Eli Gottlieb (917758) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136565)

Weren't the Chinese supposed to be Communists? I remember something about overthrowing the rich, capitalist oppressors for the sake of the working folk, but I can't place it in a country for the life of me.

Oh, well. That pig Napoleon says he thinks he should give the US a call, have some diplomatic talks.

Re:Wait a minute. (3, Informative)

MBraynard (653724) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136661)

I was preparing to make a similar concept. I'm surprised no one here listed what really happened with China - the Chicom government has REQUIRED that every machine that goes out of a factory door in China have a LISCENSED OPERATING SYSTEM installed. Three of the major makers, including Lenova - new owners of the thinkpad line - are taking the lead in compliance.

The pigs are walking upright.

Re:Wait a minute. (1)

visgoth (613861) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136722)

Four legs good, two legs better.

Re:Wait a minute. (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136805)

License? Like in GPL?

Re:Wait a minute. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136697)

Sig: Contrary to Slashdot's belief, the stupid have the same rights and moral status as the intelligent.

No you don't.

China isn't reall communist (5, Insightful)

7of7 (956694) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136709)

If you'll look, after the mess in Tiananmen in 1989 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_prot ests_of_1989 [wikipedia.org] the Chinese government basically said something to the effect of "ok, you know we'll kill you if you embarass us again like that" and that they were going to turn the country capitalist in the sense that foreign companies could do whatever they want and they decided to invest heavily in technology and modernization. Their bread and circuses decision has lead China to be one of the fastest growing economies in the world if not the fastest. There were sweeping reforms economically that took place while the political landscape remained as barren as before. True communists they are not in any sense.

Re:China isn't reall communist (1)

Eli Gottlieb (917758) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136787)

Other than all the niggly details, I do believe that was the essence of my comment. So can someone explain why I've been modded down?

Re:Wait a minute. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136804)

"Weren't the Chinese supposed to be Communists? I remember something about overthrowing the rich, capitalist oppressors for the sake of the working folk, but I can't place it in a country for the life of me."

That's still true. But it turns out it's much easier to buy the capitalist oppressors. It was so darn obvious! Well, that and simultaneously forget about doing it for the working folk: that bunch of idealistic losers. Idealism doesn't put food on the table or put the kids through college, you know.

It's a new era, bub. They're doing communism better ... with hookers ... and blackjack. In fact, forget the communism.

Pirated Windows easy to spot... (5, Funny)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136567)

The Chinese government issued a decree two weeks ago that all PCs will need to have a licensed operating system software installed before leaving the factory gates in an effort to crack down on piracy.

Spotting the pirated copies of Windows will be easy.

Instead of "Start," the button will say "Very Much Go."

Re:Pirated Windows easy to spot... (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136582)

sorry to prick your bubble...but that's whats called counterfeit, not pirated. the former is locally manufactured rip-off, the latter is a perfect, illegal copy of the original

Planned before (2, Informative)

killa62 (828317) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136570)

Hu Jintao's was going to visit about a few months ago, but Hurricane Katrina delayed his visit until now.
He cancelled it on the last day, and the time before, they were also going to dine at Gate's mansion where they had already prepared the salmon, which were airlifted from Alaska on the same day.
Dunno what happend to them.

Re:Planned before (1)

killeena (794394) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136772)

He has stocked salmon in his house, but still gets it sent in from Alaska?

Need directions? (2, Informative)

Skidge (316075) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136572)

If you want to drop in, here's Bill's house on google maps [via Sightseeing with Google Maps]:

Bill Gates's House [perljam.net]

Re:Need directions? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136764)

If you want to drop in, here's Bill's house on google maps...

And thus, the seed for an international incident is planted.

An aide to Hu Jintao prints out this page to give to the chauffeur and security staff. He keeps a copy in his notebook. He goes to the meeting that includes Hu Jintao, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer.

In the presence of all three and the press, the Google map directions slips out of his notebook...

Red... Microsoft? (1)

Digitus1337 (671442) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136576)

I will admit, this scares the -hell- out of me. The US government runs MS products almost exclusively. Now China's President and Gates are clinging glasses. Keep Ballmer away... wouldn't want China to get any ideas about "fucking burying" us.

1:3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136580)

...seven bedrooms, six kitchens, 24 bathrooms,...

The number of bedrooms seems a little low for 100 guests.

Takes One to Know One (5, Funny)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136584)

What happens when that security check reveals that one of the people walking through the door is a tyrant with billions subjects, harboring the biggest piracy, spammer and phishing rings it the world, with nuclear weapons?

And that another is the slightly less powerful guest of that tyrant, the president of China?

Microsoft Security, Plays for Sure. (4, Funny)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136809)

What happens when that security check [identifies Bill Gates]

If it works like most Windoze "security" a little report is generated, a few files are wiped out, stability suffers and they all contract bird flu anyway.

Re:Takes One to Know One (1)

jdbartlett (941012) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136831)

A Microsoft Sam voice says, "Welcome home, Bill."

Re:Takes One to Know One (1)

KnightStalker (1929) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136886)

one of the people walking through the door is a tyrant with billions subjects,

Be careful, Starbucks has spies everywhere.

Awkward Moment turns to Opportunity (2, Funny)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136586)

Hu: President Gates, I..
Gates: Please, I'm not the president, I have more power
Hu: I am still pleased to present you with the Chinese version of Windows
Gates: Hey, that's a pirated copy!
Hu: Yes, we made it just for you, need a key?
Gates: No, you go and post in on YOUR internet, be sure not to censor it. BTW, you do know that RED Hat isn't a communist version of Linux. It actually promotes human rights.
Hu: Oh yes, we know, and based on what I am allowed to read about your decline in human rights, it appears that the US isn't using it either.
Gates: Cheers

Now that your country has purchased XP (5, Funny)

tlynch001 (917597) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136598)

Gates: Now that you've purchased a zillion licenses for XP, I want to talk about Vista.

Hu: Yes, the view of Lake Washington is magnificent.

Gates: Hee hee, that's not what I'm talking about...

Well, this is a no brainer. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136602)

"Money talks". Pure and simple.

Umm, OK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136603)

So this makes very clear to me which unelected leaders control the economic fate of the world.

Wonder if any of those guests saw this (1)

nt2ldap (724372) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136606)

"The Tank Man" [pbs.org] .

Security? (0, Flamebait)

LuYu (519260) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136610)

The guests will undergo strict security checks before entering Gates' lodge-style, 66,000-square-foot home
So, the company that has not been able to manage anything but security failures for the last decade or so is going to be responible for the life of President Hu Jintao.

This is interesting to say the least.

Is this going to be that same security that any twelve year old can defeat?

Or did they contract some outside firm to cover their problem?

If you can not trust M$ with your data, how can you trust them with the life of your leader?

Re:Security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136633)

jesus christ you are a loser

Re:Security? (1)

Beryllium Sphere(tm) (193358) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136664)

Aren't visiting foreign leaders guarded by the Secret Service?

Re:Security? (1)

swimmar132 (302744) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136682)

This has got to be the stupidest post I've read in a long time.

MS security, uh oh (0, Redundant)

BMojo (315620) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136615)

The guests will undergo strict security checks before entering

Let me get this straight, Microsoft will be providing the security for the President of China among others??! Do they have any concept of what a track record is?

Bedroom count (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136620)

Gates' lodge-style, 66,000-square-foot home overlooking Lake Washington with a reported seven bedrooms

Only seven? Loser.

Animal Farm (5, Insightful)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136638)

It's hard to tell who should be more ashamed of this meeting, but a brief quote from Animal Farm [online-literature.com] is appropriate:

"Gentlemen," concluded Napoleon, "I will give you the same toast as before, but in a different form. Fill your glasses to the brim. Gentlemen, here is my toast: To the prosperity of The Manor Farm! "

There was the same hearty cheering as before, and the mugs were emptied to the dregs. But as the animals outside gazed at the scene, it seemed to them that some strange thing was happening. What was it that had altered in the faces of the pigs? Clover's old dim eyes flitted from one face to another. Some of them had five chins, some had four, some had three. But what was it that seemed to be melting and changing? Then, the applause having come to an end, the company took up their cards and continued the game that had been interrupted, and the animals crept silently away.

But they had not gone twenty yards when they stopped short. An uproar of voices was coming from the farmhouse. They rushed back and looked through the window again. Yes, a violent quarrel was in progress. There were shoutings, bangings on the table, sharp suspicious glances, furious denials. The source of the trouble appeared to be that Napoleon and Mr. Pilkington had each played an ace of spades simultaneously.

Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.

Forty years ago, Nixon invented the policy of engagement to balance the dangerous Soviet Union against an equal dangerous but hungry Communist China.

Ten years ago, with the Soviet menace defeated, Bill Clinton invented the complete sell out. Slave made goods have flowed into out country, jobs and money have flowed out. Parallel to this was born the myth of the "information economy" where the US would own ideas and the rest of the world would do our bidding because of it. Of course, for this ownership to be complete, it must apply to our own citizens. To enslave others, we must first prove our dedication to ruling by enslaving ourselves.

You can draw a straight line to today, with the DMCA, Patriot act and rampant domestic spying from a tremendously expanded federal government. As the rich and powerful gateher in Redmond, ask yourself where the rhetoric of freedom has gone and why your boss is dining with a Communist. What in the hell are we doing?

A friendlier "Communism" (4, Insightful)

Dis*abstraction (967890) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136745)

Nowadays the government calls it "socialism with Chinese characteristics," not because they think they're fooling anyone, but as a pretense to legitimacy. Socialism is being redefined as something roughly along the lines of Nordic-style welfare capitalism. It's not even clear that the burgeoning urban bourgeoisie would care if the Party apparatus were to repudiate socialism once and for all.

Certainly we should petition for greater freedoms in mainland China and in particular for the rights of imprisoned [ethanzuckerman.com] journalists, political opponents, and religious leaders. Still, considering how terribly China's citizens suffered under previous incarnations (Mao) of the present post-Tiananmen regime, I'm optimistic for the future. I believe the Party will continue on its path of liberalization as a younger, more cosmopolitan generation of Oxford- and Columbia-educated Chinese accedes to power. Who needs revolution, after all, when you can build democracy from within?

friendlier to who? (0, Troll)

twitter (104583) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136786)

Socialism is being redefined as something roughly along the lines of Nordic-style welfare capitalism.

I'm told that countries like Sweden still have pensions that pay out but that China has "reformed" [harvard.edu] theirs. $400,000,000 for Windoze ... big dumb US companies do the same thing. Hmmm.

I believe the Party will continue on its path of liberalization as a younger, more cosmopolitan generation of Oxford- and Columbia-educated Chinese accedes to power. Who needs revolution, after all, when you can build democracy from within?

I hope "liberalization" happens. Internet censorship and stories [state.gov] about political dissidents being murdered for sale of their organs make me think actual discourse is dangerous at best. Without a free press there is no telling what's actually happening, except that someone does not want the story told.

Re:friendlier to who? (2, Interesting)

Dis*abstraction (967890) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136825)

I wonder where you've been for the past 20 years, because China's been liberalizing in fits and starts for pretty much that whole time. As bad as government repression is now, it's nothing compared to the Cultural Revolution or even the years immediately following Mao. Nowadays you can pick up all the major foreign dailies at any newsstand and flip to almost any channel on satellite TV. To be sure, random pages get ripped out of Newsweek, and CNN cuts to black every now and then. But for the government to permit even this limited degree of openness would have been unthinkable not too long ago.

The more China opens up, the more hope there is for the rule of law to replace the rule of guanxi (what we in the West would perceive as corruption), so long as people on both sides of the border keep pushing for free speech and open politics.

Re:friendlier to who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136846)

"Windoze", yes. Hmmm. That's an interesting combination of "M$" bashing and a very heroic cry for human rights in China. But I wonder if you wouldn't be better off also including Google [msn.com] in your bashing? I mean, just to avoid any semblance of bias. But yes, you've talked about this before [slashdot.org] , without much success as well. And we all know Google does not cater [slashdot.org] to China. No, sir.

Re:Animal Farm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136814)

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Re:Animal Farm (1)

Dolly_Llama (267016) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136861)

Forty years ago, Nixon invented the policy of engagement to balance the dangerous Soviet Union against an equal dangerous but hungry Communist China.

Ten years ago, with the Soviet menace defeated, Bill Clinton invented the complete sell out. Slave made goods have flowed into out country, jobs and money have flowed out. Parallel to this was born the myth of the "information economy" where the US would own ideas and the rest of the world would do our bidding because of it. Of course, for this ownership to be complete, it must apply to our own citizens. To enslave others, we must first prove our dedication to ruling by enslaving ourselves.

You can draw a straight line to today, with the DMCA, Patriot act and rampant domestic spying from a tremendously expanded federal government. As the rich and powerful gateher in Redmond, ask yourself where the rhetoric of freedom has gone and why your boss is dining with a Communist. What in the hell are we doing?

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I'm hatching plans (1)

jbrader (697703) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136649)

I live near there. I think I might take my friends boat up to Lake Washington and see if I can moon the president of China.

Birds of a feather .... (2, Interesting)

argoff (142580) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136655)

... flock together. They're both controll freaks, they both hate freedom and individual liberty, they both lie about free markets (China's while getting freer is not truely free, nor is MS which relies strictly on license monopolies and not competition), they both think they're smart and have large number of resources, they're both more interested in power and prestige than making a mark. Bill wants a billion people in his market, China wants total information controll over their citizens. In all truth, I wouldn't be suprosed if they slept together.

Only 7 bedrooms? (1)

assassinator42 (844848) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136659)

And 24 bathrooms? Why? Possibly it could be useful for situations such as this, but it seems a bit odd.

Re:Only 7 bedrooms? (5, Funny)

RoadWarriorX (522317) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136692)

And 24 bathrooms? Why? Possibly it could be useful for situations such as this, but it seems a bit odd.


You obviously never lived with 5 sisters. They need all the bathrooms they can put there hands on.

Re:Only 7 bedrooms& 24 bathrooms (1)

COredneck (598733) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136723)

Wow, 24 bathrooms ! It would almost take me a month to take a dump in each one ! Wow, take a dump in a different bathroom each day and not revisit the same one for almost a month. Cool beans !!!!!!

Re:Only 7 bedrooms& 24 bathrooms (1)

Anpheus (908711) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136815)

Eegad... hire a maid before the stench gets too rank.

Re:Only 7 bedrooms? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136695)

A wise man once said:

The secret to a happy marriage is his'n'hers bathrooms.

clearly... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136666)

clearly my invite must have been lost in the mail :(

Security? (2, Interesting)

sumdumass (711423) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136672)

I wonder how security is going to be handles here. It seems that if some terrorist like the one wanting to get the WTO, knew about all these power players in one area, could think it might be an attractive target for them. It might have as much umph in the finacial world as the 9/11 attacks.

Re:Security? (1)

Flame0001 (818040) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136858)

Except this time it might possibly have a positive effect. By just now saying that, I think I just thought of something very, very wrong... Since when was killing a good thing... Damn you America and your desensitization propaganda campaign!

What the hell is this? (3, Funny)

rob_squared (821479) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136698)

A James Bond movie?

Just...strikes me as odd is all.

Re:What the hell is this? (1)

Shacky (948434) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136713)

There must be a super-neato death ray being built under his house, to be shown at the event..
My only hope is that it runs on windows, and will crash when they hit the little red button..

geek pres (4, Interesting)

NoInfo (247461) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136731)

Did you know Hu Jintao got his degree in hydraulic engineering [wikipedia.org] ? Why can't we have an engineer presient?

Re:geek pres (4, Funny)

Kuukai (865890) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136783)

Did you know Hu Jintao got his degree in hydraulic engineering? Why can't we have an engineer presient?

Because we elect ours. Sad but true.

Re:geek pres (1)

BobaFett (93158) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136829)

We had one. That's why we won't elect another one, at least until the last person who remembers the gas station lines is dead.

Re:geek pres (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136865)

Hey, you americans are lucky to have a president with an MBA! Here in Brazil we elected a man who barely completed high school and worked mostly as a machine operator in a car parts factory. Not to say he's dumb, oh no, he was smart enough to set this country's greatest corruption scheme ever...

Re:geek pres (1)

wodgy7 (850851) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136869)

Also interesting, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the current president of Iran, is an engineer. He was even a professor of engineering at IUST: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad [wikipedia.org] Back to China, from what I understand, most of the senior members in the Chinese executive have postgraduate degrees in either science or engineering. Completely different from most western countries, dominated by lawyers.

Vulcan proverb: Only Nixon can go to China (2, Funny)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136739)

"Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?"

oo oo oo! Now say wessel!

test (0, Offtopic)

whitepenguin (968721) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136740)

just to see if i can reply first time wat

Hu Cares? (4, Funny)

AnalystX (633807) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136754)

Really.

Not a Crib? (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136794)


Maybe I missed the memo - is 'manse' a word now?

Re:Not a Crib? (1)

teebob21 (947095) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136822)

Pedantic Warning ahead:

manse Pronunciation Key (mns)
n.

      1. A cleric's house and land, especially the residence of a Presbyterian minister.
      2. A large stately residence.
      3. Archaic. The dwellings belonging to a householder.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=manse [reference.com]

Changing China's culture of piracy (1)

WoundedWing (861129) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136824)

This should not just be a business move on China's part, but rather the start of changing China's culture of condoning piracy. Unless piracy is curbed, I see little motivation for Chinese software designers to create things they can't make money off of. Innovation will stagnate if piracy continues.

How the worm has turned (2, Insightful)

naaaaak (873640) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136839)

From http://news.com.com/Bill+Gates+and+other+communist s/2010-1071_3-5576230.html [com.com] :
When CNET News.com asked Bill Gates about software patents, he shifted the subject to "intellectual property," blurring the issue with various other laws. Then he said anyone who won't give blanket support to all these laws is a communist.
And now he invites a communist to his house. In the words of Lucille Bluth from Arrested Development, "How the worm has turned."

buddies (2, Interesting)

monkeyos (957157) | more than 8 years ago | (#15136859)

"I suppress ideas", "oh, so do i"

On the other hand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15136872)

I think you'd all have a much different opinion of this issue if you had first considered http://www.thestopman.com/ [thestopman.com]
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