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J.J. Abrams To Direct New 'Star Trek' Film

Zonk posted about 8 years ago | from the that-sounds-juuust-great dept.

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Tycoon Guy writes "TrekToday reports that Paramount has asked 'Lost' creator J.J. Abrams to direct a new 'Star Trek' film. The movie will be set at Starfleet Academy and will feature younger versions of James T. Kirk and Spock, chronicling their first meeting at the Academy and their first outer space mission. The movie is set for a 2008 release and will apparently be one of Paramount's biggest projects for the year."

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Ok, on one condition. (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172091)

Shatner doesn't make a guest appearance.

Re:Ok, on one condition. (1)

moro_666 (414422) | about 8 years ago | (#15172396)

And Kirk should leave the alien women alone,

ffs man, i'm no racist but if the bitch is green ...

first post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172093)

first post!

Kirk and Spock, the steamy years.... (4, Insightful)

beheaderaswp (549877) | about 8 years ago | (#15172095)

Milk it.... Miiiiilk it.... Miiiiiiiiiiiilk it....

Yeesh, talk about taking a good idea and turning it into a dogmatic commercial eggroll. Egads.

What's next? "Is that a phaser, or are you just happy to see me"? I'll pass.

Re:Kirk and Spock, the steamy years.... (-1, Flamebait)

hector_uk (882132) | about 8 years ago | (#15172129)

you just know that they are going to analy rape the idea, why couldent they just do an enterprise film, grrr.

Re:Kirk and Spock, the steamy years.... (1)

hector_uk (882132) | about 8 years ago | (#15172149)

shit, i'm a retard, it'll be at the end of the archer period, or is my ST timeline completely off?

Re:Kirk and Spock, the steamy years.... (3, Insightful)

kryten_nl (863119) | about 8 years ago | (#15172291)

... or is my ST timeline completely off?

Who knows, they fucked with it so much.

Re:Kirk and Spock, the steamy years.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172485)

what a pile of shit star trek has become. i refuse to watch this new pile of shit.

original series was excellent
the next generation was excellent
deep space nine ranged from boring to very good
voyager was so shit its unbeleiveable and i loathe it with a passion
enterprise was acceptable crap but u cant really call it star trek

star trek went down hill as soon as its creator passed away. they should just stop it now, its embarassing.

Sooooo.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172101)

So it's Harry Potter in space then?

Re:Sooooo.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172373)

You joke, but that's probably how the idea was sold up management!

Desperation (5, Funny)

Gryle (933382) | about 8 years ago | (#15172128)

I was going to post a joke about Star Trek: The Beginning of the End, but then I realized that happened a long time ago. Paramount has gone beyond running Star Trek into the ground, at this point they're trying to get blood from a stone. Then again, with Spock's intellect, perhaps we can finally figure out all of the secrets on that darned island.

Re:Desperation (2, Insightful)

Disavian (611780) | about 8 years ago | (#15172221)

IMHO, the peak of the series was somewhere in TNG. From there... they beat it into the ground.

Just gimme back my TNG, and I'll be happy. The actors are willing, I'm sure; even LeVar would be willing to step to the other side of the camera (not that directing precludes you from acting in an episode).

Re:Desperation (5, Insightful)

kemichail (965347) | about 8 years ago | (#15172389)

I preferred DS9. The sterile atmosphere of the Enterprise with it's limited cast and crew and the expendable ensigns doesn't work as well for me. Also, the richer possibilities introduced with say the Defiant were fun, and the station used as a defensive outpost... That said, I think both Captain Picard and Commander Sisko wereoutstanding actors.

Re:Desperation (1)

Disavian (611780) | about 8 years ago | (#15172431)

Agreed. Picard could show emotion when needed; I remember this one episode where he gets captured and tortured my a Romulan who keeps asking him how many lights there are... IMO that was some of the finest acting I've ever seen. DS9... I like it, but I don't get home from work early enough to catch it, so I'm not a fan per se.

Re:Desperation (0, Redundant)

CaptnMArk (9003) | about 8 years ago | (#15172483)

The peak was at The Best of Both Worlds, part 1.

Sure, there were some very good individual episodes after that, but that was the overall peak.

IMO.

I like this idea (4, Insightful)

WCMI92 (592436) | about 8 years ago | (#15172131)

I like the idea of reviving the original characters in some way. That was what was really lacking from the later iterations of Star Trek, was the strength of characters. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were the perfect balance of differing personalities, one of the best sets of characters ever in TV or film.

Re:I like this idea (2, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | about 8 years ago | (#15172158)

you mean reviving the characters in the same way that the Star Wars prequels did? *shudder*

You must work for Paramount. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172222)

Go ahead, troll me!

Re:I like this idea (2, Interesting)

hal2814 (725639) | about 8 years ago | (#15172225)

Not only were they "the perfect balance of differing personalities," they were also the right number of characters to focus on in a show that is situationally driven instead of character driven. When the focus of the show is some new weekly visit to an alien world, trying to spread focus to 10-15 characters like they did in TNG really didn't work for me. I don't really care what happens to Diana Troy or the Crusher family or even to Worf or Kunta Kinte (or Toby or LaForge or whatever you call him). Sure they need screen time, but it seems like TNG spent entirely too much time delving deeply into too many characters' lives. I really liked that TOS had three main characters and the rest were important but certainly secondary.

Re:I like this idea (1)

El Cubano (631386) | about 8 years ago | (#15172364)

I like the idea of reviving the original characters in some way. That was what was really lacking from the later iterations of Star Trek, was the strength of characters. Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were the perfect balance of differing personalities, one of the best sets of characters ever in TV or film.

I also like this idea.

However, given Paramount's history with Trek movies (I only say the last few in the theater out of loyalty to the franchise), I hope the get some of the people that worked on Star Trek: New Voyages [wikipedia.org] . This is not the greatest cinemantography in the world, but given their budget and constraints (e.g., they can't make a profit, the actors are volunteers, etc.), they do a pretty fantastic job.

Not enough time has passed (4, Interesting)

WebHostingGuy (825421) | about 8 years ago | (#15172133)

Not enough time has passed since the last movie. They need a bigger break because they will still have the same people who have been dragging down the movies for a while. Unless the screenplay is truly orginal and very creatively written this is not going to be that good. The problem with the last couple of movies is that rather than create a fantastic movie around a fantastic story being told they are creating a movie to create a movie and using the template of Star Trek to do it. If you think of the very successful movies in the franchise they are the ones in which the writing of the story was original and out of the box.

Starfleet Academy? (4, Insightful)

Dr_LHA (30754) | about 8 years ago | (#15172148)

In my mind this could go one of two ways.

1. The Star Trek equivalent of Animal House. Crazy co-eds, the antics of Star Fleet Academy's most crazy frat house

2. Cadets save the world.

I know which one is more likely, and it pains me to say it, I don't want to watch movie #2, but #1 would be awesome. ;)

Seriously, who actually thinks a movie based in Starfleet academy is a good idea? Obviously the unimaginative producers think its an "angle" of Starfleet that hasn't been covered, and an excuse to "sex up" the franchise by having a bunch of 20-somethings in the roles.

I especially cringe at the thought of "young Kirk" and "young Spock". Face it, Muppet Babies was terrible, Star Trek babies will be too.

Re:Starfleet Academy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172180)

oh god... a whole movie about "red quad" :(

Option 3 - Star Trek ala Harry Potter (2, Interesting)

Picass0 (147474) | about 8 years ago | (#15172198)


The story of a tallented student (Potter/Kirk) who breaks all the school rules to save his friend and is rewarded for his creative thinking.

Re:Option 3 - Star Trek ala Harry Potter (1)

toganet (176363) | about 8 years ago | (#15172245)

I vote for this one -- but with JJ Abrams at the helm, the story will be told as a series of flashbacks that slowly reveal the truth -- that Kirk and Spock were lovers!

Actually option 3 is more Kirk like.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172290)

The story of a tallented student (Potter/Kirk) who breaks all the school rules to save his friend and is rewarded for his creative thinking.
This reminds me of the Wrath of Khan. Didn't Kirk receive a medal for thinking way outside the box by programing the unbeatable challenge to be beatable. Also, wasn't there many actions Kirk took that were not sanctioned under Starfleet in that movie. Note: I am not a startrek nerd.

Re:Starfleet Academy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172214)

To quote Mayor Quimby:

"It can be two things!"

Re:Starfleet Academy? (1)

Megane (129182) | about 8 years ago | (#15172263)

I know which one is more likely, and it pains me to say it, I don't want to watch movie #2, but #1 would be awesome. ;)

Ten or so years ago when I first heard the rumors about a "Starfleet Academy" movie, the frat house comedy was exactly what I didn't want to see. But that was back when there was still some Star Trek that didn't suck. Now that Paramount has sucked all the life out of the franchise, cadets saving the world would be such a cliche. I probably wouldn't watch either movie (I didn't watch Nemesis, but I hear it was just Khan with the serial numbers filed off anyhow), but I wouldn't have any problem with a Star Trek frat movie.

Remember, Star Trek did have comedy moments. In fact, ST4 was pretty much all ST comedy. I think a "StarFrat Academy" would suck, but there's a small chance that they could write it to be truly funny. A very small chance. If after they finish it and I hear reviews saying it doesn't suck, then I would go see it.

my favorite scene from Animal House (1)

maynard (3337) | about 8 years ago | (#15172449)

Was when Bluto walks down the stairs during that toga party and comes across this dude playing guitar and singing some folk song to a couple of chicks. Then he grabs the guitar and slams it against the wall, smashing it to bits.

Could you imagine that set at Starfleet Academy? There's Spock plucking some Vulcan lute in the dorm while Kirk comes along and slams it against the wall, then walks away with the two green chicks listening nearby. But Spock doesn't pout. Nope. Spock doesn't pout.

Re:Starfleet Academy? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | about 8 years ago | (#15172464)

I didn't watch Nemesis, but I hear it was just Khan with the serial numbers filed off anyhow

Imagine Khan if it was intentionally stripped of everything that made it great, directed by Michael Bay, and written by the "special" student in your 6th-grade class. That's Nemesis.

-Eric

Forget the movie (1)

jim_v2000 (818799) | about 8 years ago | (#15172319)

The Star Trek equivalent of Animal House. Crazy co-eds, the antics of Star Fleet Academy's most crazy frat house

That sounds like a plotline for an award winning TV Series!

Re:Starfleet Academy? (1)

dr_dank (472072) | about 8 years ago | (#15172468)

The Star Trek equivalent of Animal House. Crazy co-eds, the antics of Star Fleet Academy's most crazy frat house

Space Bluto:Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Klingons attacked Khittomer? Hell no!

Space Otter: Klingons?

Space Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.

I'd rather have... (2, Interesting)

hal2814 (725639) | about 8 years ago | (#15172154)

Personally, I'd rather see post-TOS but pre-TNG Star Trek, maroon uniforms and all. Kirk and Spock could be older (which works out for the actors who are older themselves now) and the movie could be set closer to the most popular (in terms of movie revenue) stint in Star Trek history. I've still got a bad taste in my mouth from Trek prequels thanks to First Contact and Enterprise.

Re:I'd rather have... (1)

Angostura (703910) | about 8 years ago | (#15172200)

I would have to say that 1st Contact was one of my favourites; well plotted and scripted and with a real sense of danger.

So there is nothing wrong with prequel stories per se, they just have to be strongly plotted.

Re:I'd rather have... (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | about 8 years ago | (#15172246)

No man, how can you say that?
for about 4 or 5 seasons of TNG, the Borg seemed like the ultimate, unstoppable and unhuman enemy.

This movie exposed them to be just an enemy like any other. Toss in the time-fuckery, and you have the makings of a turd.

Re:I'd rather have... (1)

yammosk (861527) | about 8 years ago | (#15172357)

This movie exposed them to be just an enemy like any other.

I think you misspelled Voyager. Honestly, the Borg were cheapened long before First Contact. At least it had the decency to be entertaining and a good action film.

Re:I'd rather have... (1)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | about 8 years ago | (#15172451)

for about 4 or 5 seasons of TNG, the Borg seemed like the ultimate, unstoppable and unhuman enemy. This movie exposed them to be just an enemy like any other.

An ultimate, unstoppable enemy doesn't make for a very exciting (or long-lived) series.

But anyway, what you're looking for was already done in the Parallels episode, where the alternate universe enterprises start appearing. One of the Captain Rikers screams "No, we don't go back! The Borg is everywhere!"

Re:I'd rather have... (1)

beheaderaswp (549877) | about 8 years ago | (#15172210)

There'd be some holes in canon with this.

First off, Deforest Kelly has passed away, but according to TNG he was alive in Picard's time. Thus the question "Where did he go?"- which is not easily answered unless you use some kind of strange twist which excludes him from the story line.

And don't even get me started on Scotty and the incident at the Dyson Sphere, how do you handle that?

Star Trek is an amazing and visionary alternative universe. It's time to stop diluting it.

Re:I'd rather have... (1)

hal2814 (725639) | about 8 years ago | (#15172275)

"how do you handle that?"

You don't. Story is more important than cannon. That doesn't mean you can just urinate all over cannon to make something interesting but as long as you're keeping withing established characterizations and more or less keeping the appropriate chain of events in place, overlooking Kelley's cameo in TNG is far less a crime than introducing the Borg to the Bakula Enterprise crew. I'd take the continuity hit in exchange for seeing Kirk and Spock dealing with the death of McCoy. At the very least, the writers could just ignore the situation. That's the typical Dr. Who answer for handling continuity problems and I've been very happy with it over the years.

Dilution only happens when you mix a weak product in with a stronger one. If they can make this project a good one, then they are not diluting Star Trek.

Re:I'd rather have... (2, Insightful)

aurum42 (712010) | about 8 years ago | (#15172252)

Oh please, "First Contact" was one of the better films in the Trek franchise, I'd rate it 3rd overall. If there was a movie that deserves to be panned, it was the last one. "Insurrection"? The title was something along those lines. Truly awful, almost as wretched as the one in which Kirk sets off to find "Eden" and "God".

Re:I'd rather have... (4, Insightful)

hal2814 (725639) | about 8 years ago | (#15172330)

I wouldn't rank it 3rd. It was a decent movie but I thought the early earth characters and setting was by far the weakest part of the movie. As much as I dislike the Borg, I thought the Enterprise vs. Borg situation really saved the movie. Just for kicks, here's my rankings:

1. Wrath of Kahn
2. Voyage Home
3. Undiscovered Country
4. Generations
5. Search for Spock
6. First Contact
7. Motion Picture
8. Nemesis
9. Final Frontier
10. Insurrection

Re:I'd rather have... (1)

RangerRick98 (817838) | about 8 years ago | (#15172414)

You put Star Trek: The Motionless Picture ahead of, erm, anything? I could maybe see it ahead of Final Frontier, since that was utter crap, but Nemesis and Insurrection were only mostly crap.

Hollywood Trek (1)

base_chakra (230686) | about 8 years ago | (#15172285)

Kirk and Spock could be older (which works out for the actors who are older themselves now) and the movie could be set closer to the most popular (in terms of movie revenue) stint in Star Trek history. I've still got a bad taste in my mouth from Trek prequels thanks to First Contact and Enterprise.

Ah, but from a Hollywood studio's perspective, that would be a vastly inferior choice (regardless of whether Trekkers would prefer it). This way they can cast young, "attractive" actors in popular, established roles. I don't know about you, but I only watch films to see 24-year-olds with sculpted hair, not novel and empathic stories.

Ooh, maybe the 1980s will reassert its marketing formula, and they'll follow the film with a new animated series—Enterprise Babies!

Re:Hollywood Trek (1)

hal2814 (725639) | about 8 years ago | (#15172368)

I'm not saying they should focus a movie on Kirk and Spock. Just make them secondary roles. Get you Johnny Knoxvilles and your Jessica Simpsons to do the big roles. Hollywood could have the best of both worlds.

Enterpise Babies would have to be set in the TNG era because of the extensive use of the holodeck.

Re:I'd rather have... (2, Insightful)

voice_of_all_reason (926702) | about 8 years ago | (#15172428)

Story could've been better, but Patrick Stewart's performance was incredible. And whoever played Lily wasn't half-bad either.

Sounds like a winner. (2, Interesting)

Pedrito (94783) | about 8 years ago | (#15172155)

Really, I don't think they could do any better than J.J. Abrams for a movie like this. The guy writes really smart, compelling stuff (Regarding Henry is one of my all-time favorites) and he's an impressive director, at least from the TV stuff I've seen him do. I'm actually kind of hoping this will spawn a new series. Anyone else get the feeling that maybe they're testing the waters? I wouldn't mind seeing a series created by J.J. Abrams. He's done well in the past, particularly with Lost and Alias.

Yousa sayin wesa gonna die? (5, Funny)

TK2216UKG (733566) | about 8 years ago | (#15172156)

Past experience would suggest that we should be wary of franchise prequels where principal characters have sidekicks with funny ears.

How to Tag? (1)

Deacon_Yermouf (900678) | about 8 years ago | (#15172157)

I suggest:

WringEveryOunceOfLifeOutOfThatFranchise

Re:How to Tag? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172269)

I prefer bloodfromstone, corporatewhores and soullessweasels.

Re:How to Tag? (1)

Cerberus7 (66071) | about 8 years ago | (#15172300)

Y'know, I'm just so tempted to tag this with "deadhorse" but I don't fully understand what the repurcussions would be. :)

They won't learn (1)

the_Bionic_lemming (446569) | about 8 years ago | (#15172164)

The origional fans that fueled the series don't want to see the past ""Fleshed out" (I.E. the timeline massacred even more).

That's why enterprise was such a failure. That's why this movie will also be a huge failure.

Re:They won't learn (2, Funny)

Ubergrendle (531719) | about 8 years ago | (#15172233)

Hey, come on, the last time they attempted a prequel series (Enterprise) things worked out really, really well!

Hello? Anyone there?

(insert crickets chirping.wav here)

Re:They won't learn (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172488)

That's why enterprise was such a failure.

Enterprise was a failure because every aspect of it sucked with an F-3 intensity (the tornados that tore up my town last month were only F-2).

The writing was bad, the acting was bad, the directing was bad, and the theme song had me making sure the TV was muted before the show came on.

I fear, however, that this prequel could hit F-4 or even an F-5. Ster Trek seems to have died with Gene Roddenberry.

I miss it.

(MRC?="neutrino")

A good diversion from the usual fare (1)

Crizp (216129) | about 8 years ago | (#15172175)

While I'm not a trekkie, I still think "miiiiilk it!" initially and although they're also jumping on the prequel bandwagon, I feel this is the best way of creating YASSS (yet another Star Trek Show). I've had it with new crews, new ships and "new" aliens. OK, so Enterprise was a prequel show, but this one lets us know the young originals!

I'm thinking college-like situations - Kirk in panty raids! Kirk and Scotty drinking contests! Keg parties, the occasional world-threatening alien encounter etc.

Might be fun. Might also bomb horrifically.

Just Like Enterprise This Could Have Been Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172178)

Never been that big of a Star Trek, but with characters so popular and well know a good scifi writer could do wonders with the time period/subject.

Instead,we will most likely get another cesspool of scifi cliches like Enterprise turned out to be.

I remember the excitement when I heard about Enterprise and imagined it as some sort of writing focused 1960s BBCesq drama about the human race learning the harsh realities of interstellar travel and interactions with alien cultures.

And what we got instead...

Weak (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172184)

Who on Earth is waiting for another Star Trek movie? The franchise is OVER. It will bomb so hard that it will put a huge dent in JJ Abrams' career.

JJ, why don't you focus on, say Lost and What About Brian, and maybe do a decent film on your off time?

Bones! Tell ME about the NEW _Star_ _Trek__ movie! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172196)

Bones: The horse... Its DEAD Jim!

Spock: I concur with the doctor. There is a 97% probability that this movie will suck.

Scotty: If ah tol' ya one I tol' ya a shoushand times, I'm not a miracle worker. Jus' let 'er rest in peace!

Saved by the Bell (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172212)

I had this idea a while ago, except it would be a Star Trek s(h)itcom similar to Saved By the Bell. Heck, if they want to make a lot of money they just need to ripoff every hit show that ever was.

Everybody's Loves Spock
Full Ship
Starfleet Ties
The Kirksons

etc.

Re:Saved by the Bell (1)

beheaderaswp (549877) | about 8 years ago | (#15172247)

Maybe they could get Screech to play the young Spock?

Mr. Belding as the headmaster at Star Fleet?

Add some funky porn music and some PVC you might.. Um.

Forget it.

Re:Saved by the Bell (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172379)

No, keep going, it sounds better than what they have planned. at least your idea would have me laughing.
 
Star Trek is dead to me, TNG was the end for me, it was alright, but then things were milked to the point of stupidity. now it's going to become another teen drama. boy i hope we get to see Kirk's first kiss. shoot me.

Prequals? GARH! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172238)

I'd be happy to watch it as long as they don't have lots of CGI effects and technology that could only exist AFTER TNG. Star Wars anyone?

ugh (4, Insightful)

Blob Pet (86206) | about 8 years ago | (#15172249)

I don't have a problem with a new trek movie... I have a problem with Berman not being fired, and is it so hard to bring back Nicholas Meyer?

I know where I'd like to stick a tentpole... (1)

bcg (322392) | about 8 years ago | (#15172253)

"...to re-energize the pipeline via high-profile tentpoles while revitalizing the Par brand with top-tier talent..."

Are they serious?

Re:I know where I'd like to stick a tentpole... (1)

Megane (129182) | about 8 years ago | (#15172333)

"...to re-energize the pipeline via high-profile tentpoles while revitalizing the Par brand with top-tier talent..."

Wouldn't they have to reverse the polarity of the neutron flow first? Geez, Variety's [TECH] jargon is every bit as bad as the worst Star Trek [TECH] jargon.

Finally... (1)

lxs (131946) | about 8 years ago | (#15172264)

The movie will be set at Starfleet Academy and will feature younger versions of James T. Kirk and Spock, chronicling their first meeting at the Academy and their first outer space mission.

Star Trek Babies! [tv.com]

As a former Trekkie, PLEASE JUST LET IT DIE!! (4, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | about 8 years ago | (#15172266)

For God's sake, let it rest for a while. Generate some fresh ideas. In this age of real war, and more gritty realistic fare like Battlestar Galactica and Firefly, Star Trek has become hokey and stale. Let it rest until its time comes around again.

-Eric

Young Versions (1)

RobertNotBob (597987) | about 8 years ago | (#15172277)

Well, with the "Young Versions" setting, you could say that the whole movie will be a flashback...

I can't think of anybody better to direct one big flashback than the director of LOST.

...

At least there's that.

Who are they making this for? (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | about 8 years ago | (#15172284)

All the people that make fun of trekkies?
All the people that are too young to know the subtelties of Kirk, Spock, Jones, Scotty, Sulu and Uhura (did I miss anyone?)
Or all the fans that are screaming for a well thought out strongly scripted story?

Because on the last few tries, they've been failing all of the aforementioned groups. (Well, except for the first one, naturally.)

Re:Who are they making this for? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172422)

Chekov!! Damnit! ;)

Keptin!

Sounds fine to me (3, Insightful)

Udo Schmitz (738216) | about 8 years ago | (#15172309)

Hm, I'm one of those who grew up with the TOS reruns on german TV and watched every singele episode of Next Generation Deep Space Nine, and one of those to whom Star Trek is dead since ... I don't know 4th or 5th episode of Voyager? But this still sounds like a really nice idea to me. Just make sure that noone who particpated in the last movie and/or Enterprise is involved.

I ... can't ... quit ... you (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172328)

Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor not a Greek sailor

You Fools! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172338)

I love prequels. Young Sherlock Holmes was the best movie ever. I've often think about how cool it would be if someone would cobble together a pre-Flight of the Navigator but this is even better. Now, if only someone could think of a way to show us what it was like for the young Luke Skywalker, where we learn that he wore a rat-tail for a brief period in middle-school and had a fat-phase.

Trek meets Lost/Alias? so that means... (1)

fartymenams (890764) | about 8 years ago | (#15172349)

it'll either be really good, yet confusing and frustrating (and make you wonder if the joke's on you) or really good for the first half and then suddenly be lame and sort of suck for the second half.

Old Star Trek Tech vs. New Gagdetry (4, Interesting)

digitaldc (879047) | about 8 years ago | (#15172354)

So what I want to know is, are the controls and panels going to look like they are made from Lego sets?
Or will it be super sophisticated and electronically dazzling, or will it look like it does in the TV series era, cheap sets with cardboard controls and hand-painted view screens?

Fascinating.

what about a DS9 movie? (4, Interesting)

Squeezer (132342) | about 8 years ago | (#15172355)

I loved Deep Spance 9 because unlike TOS and TNG where it was a space ship flying around causing trouble, with DS9 the trouble came to the station. It was neat to have something different, and I really liked that.

Not being a reader of ST books... (1)

east coast (590680) | about 8 years ago | (#15172365)

Has this ever been covered in any of the Trek books? I just wonder if they might get Peter Jackson so that he can take something that has already been writen (and loved by fans for generations) and botch it to fit his personal vision of what this should be like.

My guess is that this film will probably do poorly either way. I'll still probably see it, but I don't think it's going to get any real praise out of me unless they really break from the Hollywood/ST film formula.

Re:Not being a reader of ST books... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172441)

One of the large, non-numbered novels is about the Kirks first mission on the the Enterprise, and meeting Spock for the first time.

Another one (name also forgotten) is the story of the first (secret) voyage of the enterprise, as captained by Robert April, and assisted my George Kirk (who keeps writing letters to his son, jimmy). Would make a good movie if they wanted to use fresh actors.

Rick Berman is smoking crack (jk) (1)

billhedrick (958463) | about 8 years ago | (#15172367)

This is the SAME pitch that has been bouncing around since about 1980! This story shows up about every 18 months. I'll beliueve it when Aint it Cool has production photos.

Star Trek meets Revenge of the Nerds (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172376)

Leaked preliminary script:

Cadet Kirk: Cadet Scott, how long until you tap into the visual sensors in the women's shower?
Cadet Scott: It'll be at least an hour. I can nay change the laws of physics.
Cadet Kirk: That hot freshman, Janice Rand is due in the showers in 5 minutes.
Cadet Scott: Janice Rand!!! I'll have it done with 2 seconds to spare or I'm not a half-sloshed stereotype.
Cadet Kirk: Good man! Do it and you can have any job you want when I'm captain of the fleet flagship.
Cadet Spock: Normally I would point out that the risks do not justify these actions... but that Janice Rand would bring on Ponn Farr in an Andorian. Perhaps you should try cross circuiting to B, Cadet Scott.
Cadet McCoy: Can you tie in my medical tricorder so I have a record for future... umm, anatomy study?
Cadet Scott: Do it yourself, pervert.
Cadet McCoy: I'm a medical student not a pornographer!!!
Cadet Scott: All right, all right.

You know .... (4, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | about 8 years ago | (#15172381)

The Star Trek Universe has become so damned muddled over the last years, I'm not even sure it would be canonical for Kirk and Spock to have been at the academy together. (Then again, I've never been clear if some of the stuff in Enterprise was strictly canonical either.)

Spock had served with Christopher Pike before Kirk, and I don't recall much in the way of explaination of how they met each other. Given the relative life-spans of Vulcans and Humans, I had assumed Spock had served in Star Fleet for quite a while.

Add this in with it being a prequel of a bunch of well known characters, I have fears this will turn into a Star-Trek Troopers meets Wesley Crusher Episode. They'll either have some fantastic adventure thrown in the middle, or it won't have any action and it'll be about Kirk reprogramming the Kobiashi Maru (or, well get an alternate explaination for it as opposed to it being a planned exam).

But the actors will either have to completely re-interpret the characters, and piss people off -- or they'll act as charicatures, and really piss people off.

Nothing good can come of this; and I'm not sure I'd watch this. It scares me. :-P

Prequels sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172387)

There, that is it, there is no more you need to know. Don't do these prequels, please. Why not just go further into the future, open with a well thought through movie and build a new series on that? I haven't even bothered to watch ST:Nemesis when I could have done it for free, and I have had many o times to do so.

I have to say.... (1)

mangus_angus (873781) | about 8 years ago | (#15172404)

That this dissapoints me a great deal. I was looking foward to a new crew and new ship set in some sort epic three part series. Not the OC in space.

Alternate Story (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 years ago | (#15172424)

When I was young I played the RPG. They had an interesting supplement that involved the secret agent side of star trek. I think this would be a better angle maybe not for a movie but for a series (say 20 years from now). It would have a darker angle from the ususal idealic society that Star Trek has created. They did a few episodes on espionage in a few of the different series but it would be a refreshing change from the starship/spacedock scenery.

I don't know about you... (2, Insightful)

matt328 (916281) | about 8 years ago | (#15172426)

but I could watch probably about 100 more TNG movies. It doesn't get any better than Riker shoving a photon torpedo right through those klingon bitch's windshield, or Data exclaiming 'oh shit!' when he realized the ship would be in for a rough landing.

Maybe I'm just too much of a TNG fan, but I've never seen an episode I haven't liked, nor changed the channel because I've already seen this one. IMO TNG was the pinnacle of Roddenberry's works, to go back and make a kind of spinoff/prequel of the original just isn't going to appeal to fans (and lets face it, who the hell else is going to go see it?)

What's The Point? (1)

Starchilde (946636) | about 8 years ago | (#15172460)

So, Paramount runs out and gets themselves a "hot, young, edgy" director in order to take a more than well worn franchise in "new directions". But at the same time the film is a prequel featuring two of the most "historically" well known characters in said fictional universe. What's the point? We all know how it's going to end, assuming they choose to hold continuity and not just rewrite everything to suit their own tastes. But of course they will rewrite everything - I highly doubt that the demographic that Paramount is after wants to see it's virile young heroes dressed in velour shirts. No new fans will be generated by this exercise and all the old ones will become even more alienated. Star Trek is currently something we all look back on with fond memories and I for one would like to keep it that way. Let's put a merciful stake through the heart of this and move along, there's nothing to see here.

Kobayashi Maru (1)

minus_273 (174041) | about 8 years ago | (#15172463)

seriously a movie based around the Kobayashi Maru would be awesome. It could be one an oceans 11 type of "hiest" movie except in this case, Kirk is trying to rig the test so he can win.
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