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Linux Version of Democracy Player Released

CowboyNeal posted more than 8 years ago | from the tune-in-turn-up dept.

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clahey writes "The Participatory Culture Foundation just released Democracy Player 0.8.2 for Linux, the first beta version for Linux. It's a free software internet TV client with built in support for both RSS video podcasts and downloading using BitTorrent. It can even scrape web pages for videos. It's an excellent way to find great internet video. For example, once you've installed Democracy, make sure to check out The Postal Service - Such Great Heights on the Telemusicvision channel."

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In Soviet America... (-1, Offtopic)

lakerdonald (825553) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217418)

...video crawls web searching for you.

No video? (2, Funny)

CCFreak2K (930973) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217421)

Nothing for you to see here. Please move along.

How appropriate for an internet TV appliance article.

Re:No video? (1)

lakerdonald (825553) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217461)

especially one with such a free name like democra3653434...BUFFERING...w34zdmcracy

DEP Error (1)

hackwrench (573697) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217705)

On running, I get a DEP prevention error. Now large sections of information are being gathered and transmitted to Microsoft!

What's that saying again... (5, Funny)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217428)

Never let open-source programmers decide the name of their applications!

Re:What's that saying again... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217493)

I tried installing Democracy but the corporations have root.

Re:What's that saying again... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217606)

I hear Democracy is not currently available in the US. ;-)

Re:What's that saying again... (1)

conteXXt (249905) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217682)

I was about to disagree with you but..... I R'dTFA (damn)

Now I am upset that there ISN'T a diebold hack to fix the reults back to accurate
(either side. ALL I WANT IS ACCURATE)

Oh well. There is still potential for FREEDOM v.01 to be released.

After that I am really looking forward to PersonalResponsibility .01 to be released so y'all can ditch all the 'nanny laws'

ok time to put the pipe down, dream over.

Similar to ACTLab TV and Songbird (3, Informative)

UseFree.org (950344) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217782)

This is similar to another open-source endeavor called ACTLab TV [actlab.tv] , with which you can stream TV programs from multiple users in real-time. A story [slashdot.org] about ACTLab TV appeared about a year ago.

It is also similar to Songbird [songbirdnest.com] , the Itunes-like application that focuses primarily on enabling users to download DRM-free music from independent artists. Songbird was also covered [slashdot.org] recently.

Re:What's that saying again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218187)

BUG REPORT

We tried installing it in Iraq but it crashed. It stopped working here in 2000.

Re:What's that saying again... (2, Funny)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 8 years ago | (#15219294)

We are using Democracy (was DTV) for ages. Man it is surreal on OS X.

1)Quit Democracy
2)Hide democracy
3) Hide others

etc.

In other news today... (-1, Troll)

Avillia (871800) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217446)

Slashdot offers advertising firms the chance to purchase their own story! For more information, tune into The Ten Dollars - News For Sale on the Sham channel, with Democracy, the latest and greatest media player ever invented in the history of the chicken pie!

Nice Summary! (2, Insightful)

paulthomas (685756) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217447)

Why should I take special care to "check out the Postal Service?"

What exactly does this bring to the table? People who had or have an interest in the band probably saw the video in 2003 when it was released. It has NOTHING to do with the software being advertised.

Perhaps if the video were mentioned in the article it would be more accepta--OH WAIT! What article? All we have is a link to the home page of this project. Okay, it's open source, and it's probably cool. Fine. Submit an article, or at least a summary that doesn't suck. This awful writeup belongs more on digg than on slashdot, in my opinion.

Re:Nice Summary! (4, Insightful)

Wannabe Code Monkey (638617) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217897)

Why should I take special care to "check out the Postal Service?"

What exactly does this bring to the table? People who had or have an interest in the band probably saw the video in 2003 when it was released. It has NOTHING to do with the software being advertised.

Hey now, calm down now buddy. I'll see if I can help shed some light on the problem. Here's a quote from the summary: It can even scrape web pages for videos. It's an excellent way to find great internet video. For example... It then goes on to talk about the Postal Service video you mentioned. They were using this specific video as an example of how it can scrape web pages for videos, one of the features of this video player. A specific example given to display the features of a product seems very apropos to me.

Perhaps if the video were mentioned in the article it would be more accepta--OH WAIT! What article? All we have is a link to the home page of this project. Okay, it's open source, and it's probably cool. Fine. Submit an article

Since when are articles the only thing you can link to in a slashdot submission? It's an open source video player with (apparently) tons of cool features with its first released linux version. It sounds interesting and slashdot worthy. And, how else could you get any more information about an open source program other than linking to it's web site? Probably better than a press release or article.

Re:Nice Summary! (1)

paulthomas (685756) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218505)

Fair enough. I still didn't like it, but perhaps it was more the tone than the content that turned me off.

Re:Nice Summary! (1)

clahey (45204) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218821)

Actually, telemusicvision uses Broadcast Machine, our video channel server software. It distributes the videos using bittorrent. I didn't mean for those sentences to be connected. Sorry.

Re:Nice Summary! (1)

baz1860 (872019) | more than 8 years ago | (#15219915)

Why should I take special care to "check out the Postal Service?" What exactly does this bring to the table? People who had or have an interest in the band probably saw the video in 2003 when it was released. It has NOTHING to do with the software being advertised

I thought it might be due to the amazing similarity between that video and the most recent Apple ad about their new Intel processors....

But I could be wrong (I know, I'm not supposed to admit that on /.)

Re:Nice Summary! (1)

cahiha (873942) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218342)

Why should I take special care to "check out the Postal Service?"

Because it's an example of high quality content you can get through this kind of system.

What exactly does this bring to the table? People who had or have an interest in the band probably saw the video in 2003 when it was released. It has NOTHING to do with the software being advertised.

It's an example of high quality content you can get through this kind of system.

Re:Nice Summary! (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 8 years ago | (#15219554)

It took me quite a while to figure out reading the comments here that "the postal service" was apparently the name of a music band or something along those lines.

I too didn't really see the point of going to a postal service's site to get great videos ("and this is Bob sorting parcels, say hi Bob").

Of course most music videos aren't that much more exciting either...

Re:Nice Summary! (1)

clahey (45204) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218812)

Sorry about that. I never saw the video on TV. I put that in there because I thought maybe having a specific thing to try out might make them more likely to try our cool project. Plus I really liked the video.

Re:Nice Summary! (1)

paulthomas (685756) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218852)

My bad, too! It's a great video. I was just a tad on edge when I posted :/. No slight against your project, it looks really cool. Best, Paul

Unfortunately, it's still buggy as hell... (5, Informative)

Ritz_Just_Ritz (883997) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217450)

I've been using the democracy player under OSX and Windows for the last several versions. It also frequently crashes, often taking out its config files in the process. The bitorrent bits wreak havoc on your network connection (on OSX and WinXP). The Linux version JUST became available, but given the problems with the more "mature" platforms, I'm reluctant to inflict it on my Linux laptop...

Re:Unfortunately, it's still buggy as hell... (4, Insightful)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217697)

The last windows version was pretty bad. However, the linux version at least uses different user interface technology, and the last release was largely focused on stability. I just used it for a few hours on Linux, and for a first version, it's pretty good. Not without its faults, but download it, try it, file bug reports, and keep on using it 'til they're fixed; I'm sure you won't be disappointed :)

Re:Unfortunately, it's still buggy as hell... (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 8 years ago | (#15219308)

At least on OS X they make the ultimate open source fault: Thinking end users are all geeks.

They break backward compatibility at least from 0.81 to 0.82 , I was really really bugged to see my gigabyte level movie archive (big deal, 512kbit here) gone havoc after updating to 0.82.

Solution was to delete ~/Application Support/Democracy they say. Yea, see I know what ~ means ;)

This always happens in open source applications. I really don't want to generalize but it is the deal. Sorry.

If there is ONE project to support freedomwise, it is this application. Don't get me wrong.

You Blasted Democrats! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217497)

F* off you democrats! We don't need your Democracy propaganda on Slashdot.

Re:You Blasted Democrats! (3, Funny)

lakerdonald (825553) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217505)

In Soviet Democracy, Slashdot propogates YOU!

slashvertising? (5, Funny)

illuminatedwax (537131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217553)

This player is really neat! But there are other players out there.

For example, once you've read this comment, make sure you check out Nickelback's new smash hit, "All The Right Reasons" on www.supermusicchannel.com today! And once you've done that, make sure you go to www.pepsico.com for your chance to enter a FREE sweepstakes to win more Pepsi products!

Re:slashvertising? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217562)

Putting Nickelback in an advertisement is as big a mistake as naming a chocolate product with "Poopykins" in it... or, like, naming a videogame console something that sounds like urine. Can you imagine something so silly?

Re:slashvertising? (1)

illuminatedwax (537131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217573)

Yet somehow they make it to number one on the billboard charts...sigh...

Re:slashvertising? (-1, Troll)

lakerdonald (825553) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217566)

lol u r funny. almost as funny as HOT GRITS LOL

Re:slashvertising? (1)

illuminatedwax (537131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217593)

damn son i dont even compare to you tho

Re:slashvertising? (-1, Troll)

lakerdonald (825553) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217629)

lol now ill make a natalie portman reference, and u'll all b sur 2 lyk me then.
LOLOLOL I FOR ONE BEND OVER [ragingfist.net] FOR OUR NEW DEMOCRATIC OVERLORDS.
~meept

Re:slashvertising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217664)

holy shit you just blew my mind

i want more pointed and irreverent but insightful humor. next time tho put more !!!!!!11111one jokes because i can't get enough of those

Re:slashvertising? (-1, Troll)

lakerdonald (825553) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217716)

LOLOL U R GOOD AT SARCASM!!1 OR MAYB U WR BEIN SRS? I HOPE SO!!! Here's a good site: Maddox [monster-cocks-pics.com] !!1 i hop u lk or else natlaie will stop: 1. Frist pisting 2. ??? 3. Profit!!1 lolololol don't forget that Stephen King is dead and BSD is bettre than UINX!11 rofl

Re:slashvertising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217740)

Mom?

Re:slashvertising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217777)

You forgot to lambast the overuse of "insensitive clod" HTH

Re:slashvertising? (1)

donald_the_laker (971410) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217812)

only insensitive clods don't know about the overlords rofl

Re:slashvertising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217838)

I LIKE TYPING WORDS ON A COMPUTER

words words words words words words words words

Re:slashvertising? (1)

donald_the_laker (971410) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217907)

And with something to think about:
PENIS BIRD
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Now you know the rest of the story.

Re:slashvertising? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218616)

Can I have my two minutes back?

Non-commercial project (2, Interesting)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217722)

I don't know if I'd call this advertising. Democracy Player *seems* to be a non-commercial project. The code is open, and the development model is relatively open too. I'm not quite convinced of their openness and intentions though, since their channel guide seems to be closed. If it remains closed, it's a way for them to lock-in customers, AND producers, by building up a large database of media that no one else can put into their own products. More importantly, the channel guide URL can't be changed in the software, so users can't set it to an independent channel guide that they might prefer. They have a lot of work on their plates right now though, so I'll give them a little more time to sort this all out before I judge them too harshly :)

Re:Non-commercial project (1)

illuminatedwax (537131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217731)

I know, I was just making fun of that little "Postal Service" dig they stuck at the end there.

Re:Non-commercial project (1)

clahey (45204) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218758)

Actually, I decided to add that on my own. It's a really awesome video. I don't even know who Postal Service are.

Re:Non-commercial project (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218996)

It ended up sounding like a bad attempt at a commercial plug, though ;)

Re:Non-commercial project (2, Informative)

clahey (45204) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218790)

Actually, the channel guide URL is currently setable, but only as an environment variable. The documentation for the API to use on your website to make it work with Democracy is at https://develop.participatoryculture.org/projects/ democracy/wiki/ChannelGuideToDtvApi [participatoryculture.org]

I believe the plans are to make the channel guide settable through the GUI. If nothing else, I think a gconf key is in order.

You can also submit your channels to the main channel guide. I'm not sure what our policy is on things like porn, but I'm positive that you definitely won't be filtered out for political reasons.

And one of the things to note is that the Participatory Culture Foundation is a non-profit. There's no profit margin for us to sell out to.

Re:Non-commercial project (1)

the_womble (580291) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218972)

Given the other projects the people behind this are involved in - like http://explorerdestroyer.com/ [explorerdestroyer.com] I would guess they are pretty committed to open source and open access.

RTFA (1, Insightful)

cahiha (873942) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218335)

I suggest you read the background at participatoryculture.org [participatoryculture.org] . Since you can't be bothered to follow the links, here are the relevant bits:

Our mission is to build an open and democratic television platform.

  Television is the defining medium of our culture. There's now an opportunity to create a television culture that is fluid, diverse, exciting, and beautiful. Built by people working together.

  The platform is open-source and built on open-standards. This matters because it keeps video flowing freely. When you lock people in to closed, proprietary services, you lose everything that makes the internet work.

  Television is moving online. Will it be the same narrow, top-down cultural stagnation that we see on traditional television? All the major media and computer companies are clamoring to control video online. If they succeed it will be a disaster.

  We don't have to spend years playing catch-up. Open-source and open- standards can lead this fight for the future of video online.

It's pretty sad when people invest a lot of work to counter commercialism, and even choose obvious and clear names ("Democracy player", "participatoryculture.org"), and people like you still don't get it and heap sarcasm on the project.

How clearly do you need to have things spelled out for you in order for you to absorb the information? Or have you watched so many Pepsi commercials that you have just switched off completely?

Re:RTFA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218376)

I was just wondering why there was a lame Postal Service reference in there (that was written poorly enough as to sound like corporate advertisment) and decided to make fun of it in the most sarcastic manner possible.

Sheesh.

I don't think video will do this (1)

infoterror (909229) | more than 8 years ago | (#15220499)

Video encourages passive living, vegetating in front of a computer like a useless geek while life goes by. Television is the great pacifier Marx ascribed to religion, but even more convenient. Video is like a cheap drug, more effective than meth or crack, and it helps "democracies" keep their fat, quasi-functional, narrow-intelligence citizens from noticing how we're eating our world alive and dooming ourselves to be corporate slaves. In other words, all that nice boilerplate about "democracy" is as much BS as a drug dealer talking about his "humanism."

Instead of watching more fetus-brain internet video, read: Aristotle, Faulkner, Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Nietzsche, even the Bible if it's what you dig (or have all of you converted to Judaism and Islam since GWB made Christianity synonymous with insane?). Reading is a revolutionary act. Television-watching is a shallow and conformist one.

B...u..f...f...e...r...i...n...g V...i...d...e...o (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217564)

"It's a free software internet TV client with built in support for both RSS video podcasts and downloading using BitTorrent. It can even scrape web pages for videos. It's an excellent way to find great internet video."

It also comes with a "free as beer" broadband connection.

Watch out slashdot, you've been dugg... (-1, Troll)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217576)

Incoming, say hi to all the digg people when they arrive.
Oh sorry, your all already here ;)

http://digg.com/linux_unix/_Linux_Version_of_Democ racy_Player_Released [digg.com]

(yes it links back to this article)

Re:Watch out slashdot, you've been dugg... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217654)

YOU LOST
this one is dupe
go here for the one which went to frontpage : http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_version_of_De mocracy_Player_internet_TV_released [digg.com]

Re:Watch out slashdot, you've been dugg... (1)

LiquidCoooled (634315) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217676)

I know its a dupe.
Incase I was a little too subtle, it was gentle humour.
I've not seen a digg article link back to slash before and thought I would give a post like all message boards get after a being /.ed or dugg.

The name is accurate (3, Insightful)

infoterror (909229) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217636)

Democracy = TV = advertising = buying things and throwing them in landfills while your society overpopulates, pollutes, and destroys all finer things for convenience. Brilliant name!

Re:The name is accurate (2, Insightful)

humina (603463) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218334)

Democracy = TV = advertising = buying things and throwing them in landfills while your society overpopulates, pollutes, and destroys all finer things for convenience. Brilliant name!

Infoterror = woke up on wrong side of bed = likes making two sides of an equation not equal = Insightful mod. Brilliant Post!

Compare US to China (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15219194)

...and you will find that of all violations in US, China is exponentially the bigger problem.

Overpopulation: China (people are murdered when they can't find another country to move with the newborn infant. Shame on China for killing the baby after it is born, leading the world in harvesting newborn organs and executed prisoner organs to sell abroard. China has no respect from the people, and deserves no honor. Anyone that honors any of China, should boycott those goods and services until the honor is self-evident.)
Landfills: US -- until we become like China in terms of land recovery and building foundation stabilization, we'll need to excavate the abandoned cool stuff we throw away (hello DEC Alpha, ol' discarded Pillsbury Doughboy and Green Giant plush toys, and ol' 8-track casettes)
Pollution: China (they don't keep anywhere near the same standards as US; who sues who in China for pollution? China isn't afraid of the people, and freely experiments on them without repentance. US is fearful of being shot if any of its tresspass is discerned by the people)
Detroys finer things for convenience: China (look at all the seized housing in China, and the people are prevented from owning their land in Allodium (fee simple) title. US, by design, respects Allodium title held by the people, the people are foreign peaceful neighbors to US when on their (Allodium/fee simple) land.

Re:Compare US to China (1)

infoterror (909229) | more than 8 years ago | (#15220454)

Neither China nor the US has done anything positive to curb overpopulation or restore the environment. And what's been the trend in China since 1970s? Incorporating liberal democratic and capitalist elements into their otherwise communist nationalist society.

I think that comes closer to proving my point than yours...

Thats not democracy, thats Capitalism (1)

VGfort (963346) | more than 8 years ago | (#15220063)

Democracy is just a government framework, not an economic one. And contrary to what some believe, I dont think Capitalism has to come with Democracy.

Democracy encourages self-centered thinking (1)

infoterror (909229) | more than 8 years ago | (#15220400)

Democracy is rule by what the individual desires, not what's best for all of us -- or the environment. Of course, most of us want that big house, that big truck, that big screen TV, and a life of ease, so rapidly it becomes selfish. (I'm not too fond of capitalism either, but if self-interest is the game, the two aren't necessarily linked but one will probably lead to the other!)

Does it mean anthing that... (1)

David Hume (200499) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217670)

there are separate downloads for Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora? Well, ok, there are actually two different downloads for Fedora.

And if one is running Mandriva? Suse? ....

Re:Does it mean anthing that... (1)

muszek (882567) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218015)

It crashes on Ubuntu right after any movie (I tried 3 different ones) finishes to play... and DP re-downloads crashed movies after I fire it up again. I guess you don't have to make a decent product to make it to /.

Re:Does it mean anthing that... (1)

Robert The Coward (21406) | more than 8 years ago | (#15221206)

I have been running it on FC 5 for about 2 Days now and it has yet to crash. It has quirks and required a reboot for my sound to work after install but overall works better then anything else I have tried.

Thanks
Robert

Re:Does it mean anthing that... (0, Flamebait)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 8 years ago | (#15219008)

there are separate downloads for Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora? Well, ok, there are actually two different downloads for Fedora. And if one is running Mandriva? Suse?

In my opinion, what it means is you may want to avoid it, at least for now, regardless of which distro you are currently running.

more like Democrack Player (0, Troll)

layer3switch (783864) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217709)

Why do i need to install this if not buggy, dopy named application when I can get same content over YouTube.com and video.google.com within installing nothing but Firefox and Flash plugin? What am I missing here?

If I wanted to watch political satire content, I'll just read New York Times.

Yes, the name is really dumb. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217750)

I don't know who decided to call it "the democracy player" since it's really just a wrapper for bitorrent and the VLC player, but it's just a poor choice of names.

Re:Yes, the name is really dumb. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218498)

It used to be called "DTV"; I dunno why they changed the name but the name expresses their goals: democratizing TV.

As for being "just a wrapper", it's a convenient, easy-to-use GUI that makes watching vodcasts as easy as using a television.

Re:more like Democrack Player (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217757)

Hey... I've got this rash. Would you care to check it out and tell me if it looks infectious?

Re:more like Democrack Player (5, Insightful)

cahiha (873942) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218429)

Because YouTube and Google are commercial sites that host the content with commercial motives in mind and with commercial constraints on their operations. They are free right now because those companies want to grab a big chunk of market share and prevent the kind of democratic, distributed infrastructure from appearing that Democracy player is intended to give you.

Democracy player is an attempt at letting anybody host and distribute video without having YouTube or Google-like bandwidth at their disposal.

I'm sorry if you don't get why this might be important.

Maybe it will help if you think a little about IM services. The reason why we have AOL and MSN and all those other centralized commercial services that play poorly with FOSS, that are easy to listen in on, and that impose all sorts of restrictions is not technical, it's because those services managed to grab market share quickly, before a distributed IM infrastructure could take hold. If it hadn't been for that historical accident, IM would probably be more like E-mail today, with tens of thousands of interoperable hosts and open protocols.

People would like Internet video streaming to be more like E-mail services than like IM services: distributed and open.

AMD64 (1)

phorm (591458) | more than 8 years ago | (#15219082)

Because the closed-source flash components do not yet seem to have an available package for my AMD64-based Debian machine.Fooey

Dependancy issues on Dapper (3, Informative)

eqisow (877574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217761)

The Ubuntu .deb has dependancy issues on Ubuntu Dapper Drake. dpkg complains of libboost-python1.33.0 being missing because Dapper use libboost-python1.33.1.

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (1)

QCompson (675963) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217866)

dpkg complains of libboost-python1.33.0 being missing because Dapper use libboost-python1.33.1.

That's funny, because my grandmother who uses linux complained of the same problem!

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (1)

shaneFalco (821467) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217912)

Thats not all.. it gave me like 10 different dependency errors, everything from mozilla-browser to python

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (1)

eqisow (877574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217970)

Yes, but those can all be fixed with 'apt-get -f install', the python error can not.

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (1)

shaneFalco (821467) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218079)

I got it working, it is buggy as hell. The preselected channels are garbage, I'll be sticking with Google Video. Is there any reverse of apt-get install -f?

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218506)

You can find badly packaged software (and this is most probably a case of bad quality packaging) on any OS.

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (2, Informative)

rolfpal (28193) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217979)

I fixed it by going to /usr/lib and doing "sudo ln -s libboost_python-gcc-mt-1_33_1.so.1.33.1 libboost_python-gcc-mt-1_33.so.1.33.0"

The other dependencies (for me) were just mozilla-browser and mozilla-psm

It crashes right after playing a video tho

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15219043)

I fixed it by going to /usr/lib and doing "sudo ln -s libboost_python-gcc-mt-1_33_1.so.1.33.1 libboost_python-gcc-mt-1_33.so.1.33.0"
This must be the "Linux for Human Beings" of which I hear tell.

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218172)

Impossible. Linux is better than Windows. You click on the package, and it just installs.

But seriously, number one reason Linux will ***never*** own more than a token sliver of the non-server market.

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (1)

Treacle Treatment (681828) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218208)

Thanks for the troll. http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4036830962. html [linuxdevices.com]

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218362)

Irrelevent to the issue the parent is talking about, and you know it.

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (1)

eqisow (877574) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218280)

It's beta software. From what I hear the Windows and OSX version are just as bad. (dependancy issues included) Get a clue

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15219355)

dpkg is Beta software? 'cos that looks like the real problem here: a package manager that can't understand how library versioning works and generates hard dependencies on the release version of the library. libfoo.so.1.33.0 and libfoo.so.1.33.1 should be identical as far as any package manager is concerned. Hell, libfoo.so.1.33.0 and libfoo.so.1.34.0 should be identical too, unless the package maintainer specifically overrides it.

Re:Dependancy issues on Dapper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218461)

Of coures it does - Ubuntu isn't exactly known for not having issues like these, lol.

Ubuntu isn't the best distro in any category, be it desktop, live-cd-esque-installable-os, biz os - I can't for the life of me figure out why it's so popular and gets so much "free press"?

DAPPER IS NOT EVEN RELEASED YET! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15220498)

Perhaps you forgot that next Ubuntu - Dapper Drake, is not even released yet! Hey, where the hell is Vista version?!

NOT FUNNY (0)

mejesster (813444) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217939)

Please stop making puns about the name or the state of copyright law or microsoft or government. Don't you ever get tired of making the same jokes on any article with any word vaguely related to politics?

Re:NOT FUNNY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218114)

Don't you ever get tired of making the same jokes on any article with any word vaguely related to politics?

No.

Next?

Re:NOT FUNNY (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218141)

Please stop making puns about the name or the state of copyright law or microsoft or government. ...
--
MacroHard - Boning you in a big way! (TM) (emphasis added)

If you're going to get all sanctimonious about Microsoft bashing, you could at least take the "MacroHard" reference out of your signature.

Re:NOT FUNNY (1)

iriefrank (41550) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218447)

Yes, it is funny.

How soon before the corporations make this... (-1, Troll)

Jackie_Chan_Fan (730745) | more than 8 years ago | (#15217941)

How soon before the corporations make this illegal?

If you're not using their internet TV client, you're supporting terrorism.

W00t 7p (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15217981)

development model argued by Eric For a moment and else up their asses BitTorrent) Second, Already dead. It is Cycle; take a charnel house. gone Romeo and

Can't install on Mandriva or compile source (1)

XchristX (839963) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218074)

No builds of DemocracyPlayer for Mandriva. Can't install Fedora rpm on Mandriva 2005 because of unresolvable deps wrt libstdc++...


Tried to compile from source (stable, not svn), but couldn't make heads-or-tails of the README (half-done).

Anybody have any luck with non-Debian/Fedora Distros?

Re:Can't install on Mandriva or compile source (2, Informative)

cgreuter (82182) | more than 8 years ago | (#15220451)

You can always:

  1. Get the source RPM.
  2. Use rpm2cpio to extract the contents.
  3. Look at the spec file to see how it builds the player.

That sometimes works for me.

How will it manage playing as Austria-Hungary? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15218487)

Especially when the Turks come in. Oh, wait...

geez (1)

popeguilty (961923) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218584)

The number of dependencies this thing comes with is obscene. Nice try, kids.

schwat? the postal service? (0, Offtopic)

54mc (897170) | more than 8 years ago | (#15218919)

nice how they adeed an advertisement at the end. /. lacks neutrality.

Demowat..? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15219072)

Democracy Player: for those who enjoy Freedom Fries

Waaaiiiit (0)

sentientbrendan (316150) | more than 8 years ago | (#15219191)

Democracy? Is this just another file sharing application?

Will Democracy be against the law in the US? (1, Interesting)

FellowConspirator (882908) | more than 8 years ago | (#15220322)

It seems as though proposed legislation would mandate some pretty nasty DRM be incorporated into broadcast streams. If that be the case, I suppose Democracy and the very idea of Participatory Culture will be finished in the USA.

I was wondering how long it would be before our representatives finally outlawed Democracy. Apparently, the day is at hand.
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