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Console Brand Loyalty and Lifestyle Choices

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the i-love/hate-them-equally dept.

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RotoGo writes "A new survey done by GamerMetrics shows that 38% of gamers prefer the Playstation 3, making it the most anticipated system. The Wii only got 22% of the audience as their number one choice. Perhaps more interesting are the 'lifestyle' choices reported by the survey. Nirvana was cited as the favorite band for those loyal to the Xbox brand and Eminem was the top pick for the Playstation brand. The Nintendo camp prefers Gorillaz and Smallville for entertainment. The study also discovered that people that like the Xbox brand are the most likely to own an iPod and a TiVo while it is the Playstation gamers who are most likely to go outside to see a movie."

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132 comments

Sounds like a hygene product (2, Funny)

suso (153703) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246506)

Maybe they should have called it that.

Nintendo: Lifestyles (for men's pleasure)

Re:Sounds like a hygene product (1)

eosp (885380) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246716)

Wii Wii!

Re:Sounds like a hygene product (2, Funny)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246834)

Nintendo: Lifestyles (for men's pleasure)

Wrong market. The console's clearly not targetted at the 20-30 crowd. It should be "Nintendo: Lifestyles (for kid's pleasure)."
...
...Wait, um... maybe not.

Re:Sounds like a hygene product (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248638)

No, they're going for women.

It should be Nintendo Wand, for a womens pleasure.

Re:Sounds like a hygene product (1)

Ohreally_factor (593551) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248919)

OK! Who snuck in here and poked a hole in my Wii?

I'm looking at you, Cardinal Mahoney!

The unasked question (2, Funny)

Chemisor (97276) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246534)

They have forgotten to ask the one question that is surely uppermost in the minds of Slashdot readers; namely, what brand of console does one buy to maximize his chances of getting laid?

Re:The unasked question (2, Funny)

joe 155 (937621) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246555)

If you have to ask that question, chances are the answer won't matter ; )

Re:The unasked question (1)

fuct000 (950445) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246585)

None They need to get out more instead of needing another excuse to stay inside

Re:The unasked question (2, Funny)

dorbabil (969458) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246589)

That's on a list of the new features added to the Phantom.

Re:The unasked question (1)

Amouth (879122) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246914)

I thought that was a feature in DNF.....

Re:The unasked question (3, Funny)

Meagermanx (768421) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247169)

Just buy some Axe. It works on TV.

Re:The unasked question (3, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246920)

Let's see, if I get the PS2, the TiVo, a Motorola Slvr L7, home furnishings from Ikea, drive a black Scion with tinted windows, hang out at a trendy coffee place and pass off light insults regarding Starbucks, listen to culturally hip bands, watch only indy cinema, drink bottled water with a trendy name, eat strict vegetarian mediterranean themed food, wear clothing only from mens wear shops which never display a SALE sign of any kind and wear my hair in a pony tail, will anyone see I live an incredibly cool lifestyle?

Ah, heck with it, I'll play free games on the internet, drink reheated coffee from Costco, drive a wreck and tell people they can fsck off.

Re:The unasked question (1)

optikSmoke (264261) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248099)

Pony tail??? Pony tail?!?!?!

Obviously you need an asymmetrical hair cut that covers half your face, to compliment your RIDICULOUSLY HUGE sunglasses. Pony tail?!?!?!

DONT U KNO NYTHING!?!?!?!?

ZOMG IM POSTING THIS ON MYSPACE LOL

XBox (1)

scolby (838499) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246923)

Size matters.

XBox gets you laid? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15247780)

Yeah, but by "laid" you must be referring to getting molested by your fellow fratboys :)

Re:The unasked question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246937)

The only winning move is not to play.

Re:The unasked question (1)

squisher (212661) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248540)

I think the answer is pretty easy:
Having any console will reduce your chances of getting laid.
Why? Two factors:
1) Time. The more you play, the less you meet people in real life.
2) Friends. Your friends will want to play the console you own when they are over and usually that's pretty boring for the women. Plus, your friends are more likely to include gamers, who in turn also play too much and hang around too little with people and as such reducing the pool of femals in your clique.

Re:The unasked question (1)

Bimkins (242641) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248582)

So, you're wanting to go from handheld to console?

Total Rubbish (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246588)

There has been discussion over at Joystiq about this survey, and the conclusion is that it is total rubbish.

In particular, the conclusions about handheld gaming devices are totally out of step with sales figures.

Once again, IGN proves why nobody listens to it.

Re:Total Rubbish (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246633)

Link please. I'd be interested in reading that, but I am lazy... :(

No doubt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246996)

First of:

The survey also showed that the majority of people prefer the PSP as their handheld of choice. Only people who are looking forward to the Wii like the Nintendo DS more

When contrasted with sales data indicates that there may have been a bias against Nintendo in their survey; on top of that the most important information would be on which systemx you planned to purchase within the next 18 months (PC, XBox 360, PS3, Wii, PSP, Nintendo DS)? I'm suspecting that they way the survey was set up basically could have been rephrased as "Which console do you currently own (PS2, XBox, Gamecube). Also Permutations and Combinations of the systems were not taken into account; which system are the people who own an XBox and Gamecube (and prefer the Gamecube) looking forward to? What if they prefer the XBox? On top of it all there is no control for age groups or gender; what percentage of the 18-24 year old female gamer market does Sony control, does their preferences differ from the 18-24 year old female gamers who like Nintendo?

Furthermore (if I'm wrong and the set up is not biased) I think it is embarassing that Microsoft (a company that is actively marketing their product) only recieved 28% whereas Nintendo (a company which has kept all their information secret) still recieved 22%.

Survey of what? (3, Insightful)

KeiichiMorisato (945464) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246594)

I find that the results of this survey is really worth anything when they can end up with

Other findings about this particular subset of perhaps atypical, but nonetheless important customers include the facts that 70% own a handheld gaming device (their preferred handheld being the PSP)

So even though the results of the survey predict a 70% market share for the PSP, in reality the DS is dominating the market. Obviously, the survey has too narrow of a sample (subset of a population) to be worth anything.

Re:Survey of what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246747)

Or perhaps they are asking the wrong questions.

Asking what console a gamer will buy is like asking a person whether they are going to vote Democrat or Republican. In the end, it depends on the individual candidate (even though there is a minority with loyalty to either party).

For a gamer, it depends on the game. Jade Empire was the tipping point for me to buy an Xbox. FFX was the tipping point for me to get the PS2. And Conker's Bad Fur Day was the tipping point for me to go find a used Nintendo 64. It's all about the games.

Re:Survey of what? (1)

Lobo42 (723131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246840)

That's not what that sentence means. It means that of that subset, 70% own *some* handheld. Of those that do own a handheld, PSP is preferred - which could mean anywhere from 51% to 100%. (Or less, if there's more than two choices.) And the DS is not really "dominating" the U.S. market. Handheld hardware sales are usually 40-50% GBA, 20-25% DS and 25-30% PSP in the U.S., which game sales more biased towards the PSP. Only in Japan is the DS dominating.

Re:Survey of what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15247342)

Actually, the DS is trouncing the PSP pretty much everywhere but America. Here's some figures:
http://www.revo-europe.com/news.php?nid=8821 [revo-europe.com]
http://onnintendo.com/index.aspx?page=1&post=52&ye ar=2006&month=4 [onnintendo.com] (wow, that's gotta hurt -- the DS and DS Lite are individually beating the PSP)
http://news.spong.com/article/9483/Worldwide+Ninte ndo+DS+Sales+Closer+to+13+Million?cb=681 [spong.com]

Basically, the DS is outselling the PSP by almost 2:1 worldwide. I haven't been able to find any American figures that are newer than about half a year old, but they were fairly neck-and-neck then, who was ahead just depends on who your source is.

Re:Survey of what? (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247581)

Handheld hardware sales are usually [...] 20-25% DS and 25-30% PSP in the U.S.

Is that units or dollars? Remember that one can buy two DS systems or a DS and a portable DVD player for the price of a PSP, and DS games also tend to run $10 cheaper than PSP games.

Re:Survey of what? (1)

Lobo42 (723131) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248273)

I'm pretty sure that's in units. Hardwale sales usually aren't tabulated by dollars.

Re:Survey of what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246848)

Uh, the survey doesn't predict a 70% marketshare for the PSP. It predicts that 70% of gamers have some kind of handheld (PSP, DS, etc.).

Re:Survey of what? (2, Insightful)

Burlap (615181) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246892)

my preferred car is a Ferrari, but I drive a Ford.

Re:Survey of what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15247116)

Wow, good job making a completely fallacious and irrelevant analogy.

Re:Survey of what? (1)

Burlap (615181) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247215)

wtmtp..

saying that most portable gamers preferr a PSP doesn't meen that they actually HAVE a PSP.

Bad for Sony (3, Interesting)

Programmer_In_Traini (566499) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246604)

Assuming this "study" has anykind of seriousness, this is bad news for sony because they're trying to build the ultimate living room entertainment system (Blue-ray, cell cpu, big hd, wireless...etc) but if the sony fan base doesn't care so much about what they offer, not a ton of people will be ready to buy the console just because they're longtime sony buyers.

I've been a sony fan for quite some time and I am beginning to wonder where exactly is sony going with its PS3.

Re:Bad for Sony (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246644)

"I've been a sony fan for quite some time..."

might I ask why... did you miss the rootkit? the way they are twats about customers? the licencing agreements which tie people down so much that they are effectively getting fucked in the ass by Phoney. Fuck that.

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

MalaclypseTheYounger (726934) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246730)

I'm in the same boat. I love Playstation, hate Xbox (mostly because I love Playstation), and recently gave away my GameCube because I just don't want more than one console in my living room.

I don't care about the rootkits, because I don't buy music, I download it, so no worries there. Besides, most music that has come out lately sucks anyways.

This survey sucks too, because I love Nirvana, hate Eminem, but apparently I bought the wrong console. :)

Whatever in the future, I hope that all games/consoles will allow me to play my own MP3's as background music. Gran Turismo was known for some good music, but the latest GT4 music is mediocre at best. Oh well...

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

Thyamine (531612) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246889)

What does hating the XBox have to do with loving the PlayStation? Last go around I had an XBox and a GameCube (loyalty to Zelda there), and realized too late that the GC seemed to be much more for the kids.

This time I have a 360 (my old XBox broke), and I'm planning on a PS3. I don't see a need to limit myself just because of who or what it is. I want something to have for relaxing with. The same way I don't rant against PCs just because I have a console.

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247079)

I'm with you... I've got a PS2, GC, Xbox 1 and now an Xbox 360 sitting in my AV rack along with lots of other classic consoles. For me the consoles don't matter one iota, it's about the games you can play on them. I wouldn't have bought the 360 if it didn't have games I wanted to play, and I wont by the Wii or the PS3 until they show me some games that pique my interest. There are consoles I DON'T own but that doesn't mean I HATE them, simply that they didn't offer any games I was interested in. Honestly anyone who "HATES" a console simply because they own a different console is just a moron particularly if they've never even owned or spent any significant amount of time with the console they "hate". I can understand not liking a console based on it's merits, and I can understand preferring one console over another. But saying you HATE Xbox simply because you own a Playstation...

...sorry I just can't wrap my head around that level of zombie-like ignorance.

Re:Bad for Sony (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15248404)

Hint: Your brain is getting in the way, remove it and you should be able to wrap your head around it.

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247298)

I feel the same way, except I've come to hate certain things about the Sony products. In particular Sony doesn't seem to be able to make a durable laser unit under any circumstances. I've never hung onto a PS2 long enough to have it fail but I had two PSX (original, not the DVR) units stop reading CDs, and my PSOne only works while inverted. Granted, the DVD-ROM in my Xbox is going out, but it's going out gradually, it didn't just suddenly crap itself and it's been limping along for over a year since it started getting funky. Plus, it's actually replacable. Hell, a first-generation (original, large, any model #) PS2 can actually be killed by Gran Turismo 4. What dies? The fucking laser hardware.

I may buy a PS3, but I will absolutely not buy it at launch. I may buy an Xbox 360, but that seems even less likely unless someone figures out how to get Linux on it, in which case I'll probably buy two :) There are exactly zero games for Xbox 360 that I give a shit about.

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247408)

Don't feel bad. I love Eminem, hate Nirvana, and bought an Xbox. Apparently there are a lot of us out there that break the mold.

-Eric

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247655)

I hope that all games/consoles will allow me to play my own MP3's as background music.

Wouldn't that completely throw off the synchronization in rhythm games such as Guitar Hero, Dance Dance Revolution, and the WarioWare series? And what about games that rely on music to set a mood?

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

Irish_Samurai (224931) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247036)

might I ask why... did you miss the rootkit?

Might I ask why you can't tell the difference between Sony Music and SCEA? This company is so huge that the different divisions hold no sway over each other.

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

jrieth50 (846378) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247611)

Might I ask why you can't tell the difference between Sony Music and SCEA? This company is so huge that the different divisions hold no sway over each other.

Right, and thats why the PS3 is going to ship with a potentially budget-busting/fan-alienating $1100 Blu-Ray player (stand-alone price minimum) built in so that Sony can attempt to take the HD-Video market share and defeat HDDVD.

And that's why Sony had to part with the HDDVD project so that they could offer up their own version of HD video discs with far more intense DRM to satisfy their pictures/music divisions. (Is it true it requires an internet connection to? Can't remember.)

Nope, I don't see the various departments at Sony having any influence over each other at all, not one bit.

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

Irish_Samurai (224931) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247838)

The departments had no influence over each other. Sony Corporate decided this was the game plan, the Home Theater division didn't force the Blu-Ray, and the pictures/music didn't force the DRM.

Corporate decided that they were going to use the PS3 to gain control of the next wave of HD medium delivery vehicles, the PS2 did it with DVD, so they're going to do it again.

So my point still stands. Sony Music has no say over what SCEA does. The rootkit, while evil, was not used in SCEA products - so the comparison is ridiculous. You are allowed to vote with your dollar, and I have no issue with that. WHat I do have an isue with is people with NO concept of business theory making asinine statements off of things that aren't even connected in the way they say they are.

Btw, Blu-Ray isn't just a Sony thing. Dell, Hitachi, Hewlett-Packard, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Electronic Arts, Vivendi, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Disney, and Apple all have their hand in this pie. According to your logic, Disney has sway over PS3 design decisions too.

Re:Bad for Sony (1)

jrieth50 (846378) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248830)

If you really believe Sony's interest in IP being so vastly different from others who only manufacture drives is a non-factor, then it is not I who is lacking in elementary business theory concepts.

If you believe Sony's experience in gaining wider DVD acceptance through the PS2 played no part in their belief that they could now use the same strategy to push a new format - thus tying every division of Sony's sales figures to the success/failure of Blu-Ray, you're just insane. Your own argument contradicts itself as you seem to be aware that each division is helping assist overall corporate goals, yet you deride my comments saying the very same and insist the departments act with complete independence.

The difference with this generation of course being the fact that it was Sony that decided to break up the HDDVD consortium and start a format war rather than using the PS3 to gain acceptance of an agreed upon standard. Someone will get burned in the war, and as unhappy as the list of companies you list would be, I'm sure that Warner Bros, Microsoft, Toshiba, et al, would be equally disappointed.

Speaking of lacking, your great analysis of Sony's Blu-Ray partners is highly flawed as well, since none of those companies played a large role in the creation of the medium itself, they were all on board w/ HDDVD - along with the rest of the world, until Sony decided that they alone had a better solution. They merely convinced Dell, Hitachi, et al to join them.

Seriousness? 0%, it is an IGN based study (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248181)

Now granted IGN is huge BUT almost everyone who is serious about games avoids it like the plague. Their reviews are a bit, ehm what is the word, biased? no ah, bought. Yup that is it.

At best this "study" reflects the habits of IGN survey respondants (remember, no survey ever reflects the opinions of those who punch the surveyor) wich is a subsection of the gaming market.

What I find even more telling is that the PC ain't listed. IGN does cover PC gaming and although the 360 looked to be powerfull games like Oblivion show that the PC can still hold its own.

So this study don't matter shit. If anything it proves that console owners are sheeps when it comes to their taste in music. Or rather people who fill in surveys on websites are. Suprise suprise.

Lifestyle Choices (1)

mbrannon (965628) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246624)

I can almost buy the console allegiance figures until they get into lifestyle choices that these consoles are supposedly related to. Silly IGN. Didn't they know, all of those unextreme Nintendo fans obviously only watch shows like Desperate Housewives? Pansies.

Re:Lifestyle Choices (1)

nelsonal (549144) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246886)

What's wrong with Desparate Housewives? Teri Hatcher is still quite a looker.

Re:Lifestyle Choices (1)

Blinocac200sx (955087) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247134)

Marsha Cross is the hottest of em all. Red headed ownage.

Glad they wasted my time... (1)

hotgigs (899872) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246632)

From TFA: "36% of the IGN.com audience claims loyalty to the PlayStation 3 as their next-gen console of choice" How can you have a loyalty to a product that hasn't been released? I could see the Playstation brand but not the Playstation 3. We don't know anything about it. At least the 360 is out (judge it how you want at least it's actually available to judge...)

Re:Glad they wasted my time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246725)

How can you have a loyalty to a product that hasn't been released?

Like this: I won't buy a 360 and am waiting on a PS3 which I will purchase as soon as I can when it's released.

Simple, no?

Re:Glad they wasted my time... (1)

sk8dork (842313) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247207)

so 36% of the surveyed are sony/playstation fanboys?

-xbox fanboy

Re:Glad they wasted my time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15247452)

Well, I don't know about that. People do get carried away with the "fanboy" deal. I said I wouldn't buy a 360, not because I think it's junk or I'm anti-MS or anything, but because of the games I play. I don't play that many console games to begin with. I got my PS2 back when GTA 3 came out and I also primarliy play Tiger Woods, Katamari and the Final Fantasy series on the console. Considering 2 of those are exclusive, I think it's pretty obvious why I'm waiting on the PS3.

Sure that's brand loyalty more than console loyalty, but in 360 vs PS3 vs Wii (wtf?), that's why I wrote what I wrote.

But, you're right; I guarantee that within that 36% are some slobbering fanboys. :)

Brand loyalty? What's that? (4, Funny)

CerebusUS (21051) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246634)

I've an Xbox, a PS/2, a Gamecube, a DS, an Xbox360 and a PSP.

I'm apparently loyal only to the economy at large.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

PFI_Optix (936301) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246672)

The governments and corporations of the United States and Japan thank you for your valiant efforts as a consumer whore, and would like to present you with this plaque. That'll be $10 for the plaque, please.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (4, Funny)

CerebusUS (21051) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246694)

I'll give them $15 if it comes in collector's edition packaging.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246768)

Sorry, buddy, the special limited collectors edition is $150.

But it comes with a special limited collectors edition action figure.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

Irish_Samurai (224931) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247067)

Whores get paid, they don't pay.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247165)

Things work backwards when prefixed with "corporate"

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

Irish_Samurai (224931) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247206)

Cool, so corporate level whores pay? Word up!

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

Xiroth (917768) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246713)

I've...a PS/2 It's impressive that you've managed to keep one this long and all, but I'm not sure that the fact that you have a 20-year-old PC is really all that important to the discussion at hand.

Isn't it? (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248202)

What do the PS/2 and all the next-gen consoles got in common? Designed by IBM!

He just got the first version. The sad bit is that it probably got more memory then any of the next-gen consoles. Life is weird.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

nb caffeine (448698) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246756)

Currently in may apartment:
NES
Sega Genesis
Nintendo 64
Sega Dreamcast
PS2
Xbox
Xbox 360
Nintendo DS

I think people like you and I are just loyal gamers, not brand-loyal fanboys.

What? (1)

Junta (36770) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247701)

No SNES, you are just a poser...

Re:What? (1)

nb caffeine (448698) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248193)

Yeah, actually, I've been thinking about getting one lately. I've got the snes emulators on the xbox, but its just not quite the same :)

Of course, I'm not sure how pleased about my collection the lady is going to be after we get married in a few months. I'd better get my own "game room" :)

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248629)

My list is close to the same:

NES
Genesis (with 32X and Sega CD addon's)
SNES
N64
Dreamcast
PS2
Gamecube
Xbox
Gameboy Advance

Had a GameGear too but I sold it a while back. Nice system but chewed through batteries way too quick.

And for the irony, the Xbox was free (won it as a door prize at a Microsoft campus event when they were showing a new version of Visual Studio), and is fully modded. I had a D-Link DSM-320 for my living room media player but Xbox with XBMC blows the D-Link away :D.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246971)

They're talking about lifestyles, and since obviously you don't have a life, you're not included in the study.

You Fool! (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247062)


I've an Xbox, a PS/2, a Gamecube, a DS, an Xbox360 and a PSP.

You fool, the Xbox clashes with the PS2 and the Game Cube should never be in the same room as an XBox 360. Have you no sense of Feng Shui?!?

I'm apparently loyal only to the economy at large.

Could be. I'd hate to think there are those who use such a survey as a shopping list.

"let's see, to be a proper xbox maven I'll need spruce martha stewart bath towels..."

I think when I see a certain crowd prefers Nirvana that they are old farts, but that's just my 2 centavos.

Funny, I think (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248244)

I think when I see a certain crowd prefers Nirvana that they are old farts

I think when I see a person who thinks people that like Nirvana count as old I am talking to a kid of about 10. Am I right?

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

aafiske (243836) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247092)

Brand Loyalty, if you move the letters around and change a few and remove the space and uncapitalize one, is a secret code for Idiocy. There's nothing wrong with prefering PS2 over Xbox, or Xbox over Gamecube. Maybe a system just doesn't have enough of the games you like to play. Maybe you bought three and they all died from bad drives and you don't want to buy any more from that company. There's tons of good reasons to prefer one thing over another, or to like them all for different reasons. Making your choices because you're loyal to Sony products or you've only ever bought Nintendo before is just lunacy. Sadly, it's not that uncommon.

And yes, I know you know that, I just felt like venting and hopefully annoying someone who is Loyal to a Brand.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15247681)

Two points:

1. Nintendo's never steered me wrong (no, I didn't fall for the Virtual Boy either) in almost 20 years. While I don't know much of what's coming for the Revolution (outside of many Wii jokes), all I need to know is that the big N is backing it.

2. I hate Sony (and, to a lesser extent, Microsoft) enough that, if it ever came down to buying their machine or getting out of gaming, I'd be saving a fair amount of money. I loathe them so much that I won't even buy regular electronics from them, for each dollar helps fuel the DRMonster and I refuse to be a participant if I can help it.

Re:Brand loyalty? What's that? (1)

sdnoob (917382) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248834)

i am extremely loyal to my preferred game console too...

don't have one, don't intend to get one. period. far better things to spend hard-earned cash on. where's that option in the survey? the majority of the population couldn't care less about the latest-and-greatest brain-mushing video game console.

haven't bought a console in over 20 years. and yes, we still have the ol' 2600 & it sees regular use to this day. try as they may, but no one has come close to recreating super-breakout on a 2600 with paddles. it just can't be done with a game pad, joystick, mouse or keyboard.

Shocking! (3, Insightful)

Rapter09 (866502) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246655)

Original Xbox owner's favorite next-gen console is the 360?! PS2 owner's favorite next-gen console is the PS3 and they love the PSP?! Gamecube owners *need* the WII and watch preteen television!? What are the chances! Just kidding about the Smallville thing, but I think it would be pretty obvious that people who own the current generation of any of the above console iterations would be revenously expecting it's next-gen counterpart.

Re:Shocking! (1)

thefirelane (586885) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247183)

pretty obvious that people who own the current generation of any of the above console iterations would be revenously expecting it's next-gen counterpart.

No, actually it isn't [wikipedia.org] .

If the study came back saying console group X preferred console Y, someone would post saying "that's obvious, X sucked, I own it and am looking forward to Y"

I heard... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15246666)

Vito's hunky new fire dude is an xbox 360 man. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Re:I heard... (1)

Baitfish (972387) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248742)

His new love has a good right hook and makes a mean stack of Johnny Cakes

go outside to see a movie (1)

linvir (970218) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246697)

HAHA, stupid PlayStation owners. Everyone knows that movies are screened indoors.

But seriously, why the troll spin on that? Contrasting an affinity for gadgets with a predisposition to "going outside" is pretty inflammatory, given the target audience (us), and I'm hard pressed to believe that it was accidental.

Re:go outside to see a movie (1)

jrmcferren (935335) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246748)

While you have a point, it is flawed. There are drive in theaters. Yes, those things are still around, the good old drive in.

Lifestyle, based on consoles? (3, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246704)

Also in the news, XBox users prefer soap bars while Playstation enthusiasts rely on liquid soap.

Erh?

Don't get me wrong, but how is that supposedly connected? I own a few Nintendo pieces. Do I have to listen to Gorillaz now? And since I can't have TiVo and go to the movies (obviously, or I'd have to embrace the PS3 and the X360), do I have to download my movies?

Think of the statistics surrounding the future distribution of the console market what you want. It might even hold about at that area. But hanging the lifestyle of a person onto his choice of consoles is a bit silly. What does a console tell about a person? That he plays games. Ok. That's something EVERY console tells about him.

It might hold some water when you hang it onto the price tags of the consoles, with XBox usually being the most expensive, PS behind and Nintendo coming in cheap. You might put demographics down based on that, i.e. that XBox players can and do spend more money on entertainment, and that they might be more likely to spend "more easily", be it that they have more money to spend or that they are more willing to shell it out for entertainment, with Nintendo players going for the budget line, out of necessity or because they're not willing to spend as much money on entertainment.

So maybe it's true, a Nintendo player probably downloads his movies...

Re:Lifestyle, based on consoles? (1)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246792)

Don't get me wrong, but how is that supposedly connected? I own a few Nintendo pieces. Do I have to listen to Gorillaz now? And since I can't have TiVo and go to the movies (obviously, or I'd have to embrace the PS3 and the X360), do I have to download my movies?

All I know is that my complete and total hatred of Enimem is almost enough to make me consider an Xbox 360 instead to avoid being associated with Enimem fans.

Almost.

Re:Lifestyle, based on consoles? (1)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246812)

Enimem

Whoops. I mispelled "no talent washed-up hack with mother issues who helped ruin my favorite alternative station" twice.

Re:Lifestyle, based on consoles? (1)

aztektum (170569) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246979)

Jesus man, they were testing the theory of relativity for flaws, they just asked a buncha people some questions and these were the results.

I myself buy Nintendo consoles first, have owned at least one of each Gameboy iteration, and even have a couple T's in my closet that have the classic Nintendo logo on them. I don't like Smallville and only moderately enjoy the quirkiness in Gorillaz tunes.

Hypothesis busted. It isn't a big damn deal.

Whenever you read an article like this just remember to add "Of those surveyed, we found..."

Re:Lifestyle, based on consoles? (2, Informative)

flooey (695860) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247352)

Think of the statistics surrounding the future distribution of the console market what you want. It might even hold about at that area. But hanging the lifestyle of a person onto his choice of consoles is a bit silly. What does a console tell about a person? That he plays games. Ok. That's something EVERY console tells about him.

Err, this is a marketing-based study. It doesn't say that if you watch the XBox that you listen to Eminem. The idea is to get an idea of where and how to spend marketing dollars. TV shows and music groups have marketing campaigns that attracts a specific audience. Studies like this tell people like Nintendo that they're being successful at attracting the Gorillaz audience, but unsuccessful at attracting the Nirvana and Eminem audience. That can give them useful information for future marketing campaigns (which could be anything from "We know the Nirvana audience is cheap, so Sony can have 'em" to "The undecided folks like Lost, we should advertise in that time slot").

Lifestyle choices? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246765)

I wasn't aware people who sat on their a55 all day and played video games had a life. The Bob knows I didn't when that's all I did. I gave it all up, though, for my new calling
Ay-yiy-yiy-yiiii!
I am the Frito Bandito!
I love Fritos corn chips,
I do!
I love Fritos corn chips,
I take them from you!*

* Offer does not apply in Gondor.

Re:Lifestyle choices? (1)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246874)

I wasn't aware people who sat on their a55 all day and played video games had a life.

I wasn't aware that watching TV and listening to music constituted a life.

Re:Lifestyle choices? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246936)

I wasn't aware that watching TV and listening to music constituted a life.

Some people, it is rumoured, thought watching Friends and discussing it at work the next day constituted a life. Small wonder they were so disappointed to see it finally end. They doubtlessly thanked their lucky stars for Suvivor, Lost, etc. Though I don't think any of these people actually play video games.

Apple users are bummers - fact 100% (1)

iMac Were (911261) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246807)

Pity there isn't an Apple console. We can take a good guess at what lifestyle that would be associated with.

Re:Apple users are bummers - fact 100% (1)

Manmademan (952354) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247012)

Looks like someone has already forgotten the tragedy that was the Pippin! Apple and consoles do not mix!

Adventuresome Movie-Watchers (1)

l3prador (700532) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246951)

The study also discovered that people that like the Xbox brand are the most likely to own an iPod and a TiVo while it is the Playstation gamers who are most likely to go outside to see a movie.

While I can see that it is likely that one would have to venture outside for a brief period of time in order to get to the large dark cavern in which movies are shown, in my mind, going to see a movie =/= going outside. It could just be me.

Re:Adventuresome Movie-Watchers (1)

jrieth50 (846378) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247476)

It means you leave the house long enough to buy something to marketing types.

What about.. (1)

trazom28 (134909) | more than 8 years ago | (#15246969)

How about those that have no desire for a console (*GASP*) We had a PS2... we were so busy with other things, we sold it. New console comes out.. meh.. so what. I've got every day things to keep me busy - wife n kids. And I don't think we'll be buying them a console anytime soon. Why would I want to have my kids spend their lives in front of a blinking box? There's a whole interactive world I'd rather have them in, and I feel they're better for it!

Re:What about.. (1)

lotsotech (848683) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248240)

Ah, I see the problem. You needed to run the video out from your PS2 to the TV. Otherwise, yes, you'd probably just see a blinking box. But more seriously lots of people (that I know at least) find time to spend quality time with their kids and still have hobbies.

Uhhh. (1)

JavaLord (680960) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247281)

Did I come into some false reality here? Don't people still buy hardware for the software they can play/run on it?

This generation of consoles is the first where I actually haven't bought one (or all) of the consoles. The only reason I ever choose one over the other is software available. I could care less which company has their name on a console, I only care about what games it plays. Am I in the minority?

So... (2, Insightful)

thebdj (768618) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247306)

what about PC gamers? I mean there are still a few of us who understand first-person shooters are best played on the PC with keyboard and mouse and some crossover games are just too clunky to play without the array of extra buttons and familiar controls. I know a few people who enjoyed KotoR and Morrowind more on the PC then on the X-Box. I do not know if any of my friends even bothered to try Oblivion outside of the PC world. I do own a PS/2, but my next console is probably a Wii (dear god why) unless the PS3 comes out low enough to make it tempting just for the Blu-Ray player.

To me the only interesting part is that ... (1)

czehp (156215) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247736)

14% of gamers are as yet undecided.

Given that the poll shows only an 8% difference between the Xbox360 and the PS3, those 14% of gamers could very easily tilt the most-popular-console-o-meter in either direction. Of course, I'm holding out for the PS3 since I'm one of those 36%. I'm also not even a serious gamer. For me, it's a cheap Blu-ray player and with confirmed rumors [1up.com] of a FFVII remake I'm pretty much sold. Throw in to that the fact that it will run linux [ps3blog.net] and what more do you need? It'll be interesting to look back on these numbers once the HD format wars are over and see just how much impact that 36% of die-hard fans had on the format that won.

Re:To me the only interesting part is that ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15248538)

taken from your very own link to 1up: http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=1&cId=3 143672 [1up.com]

TN: The PS3 tech demo was actually not the perfect forum that he wanted to have. It was just timing that we had to submit something in time for E3, for the press conference. So, again, it was not perfect forum. And the 7 remake idea was always, always in conversation, just because it's so popular. And then just because of that tech demo here in the PS3 conference, that probably based more expectations of fans, obviously. And Kitase-san already has told Nomura-san so many times that if there is a remake, that should be created by Nomura. But, again, Nomura-san has so many other projects lined up already in the future schedule, so it's almost impossible to think about that and squeeze that in. But if there is a right time, it would be interesting to create.

not quite confirmed eh?

Re:To me the only interesting part is that ... (1)

czehp (156215) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248746)

Actually the link I posted says:

Final Fantasy VII Remake
Publisher: Square Enix
Developer: Square Enix

When Square Enix showed off a tech demo of the opening of FFVII with improved graphics and character designs more like Advent Children, many people took this to suggest that a remake was in order. Which is indeed the case - director/producer Tetsuya Nomura admitted to 1UP that he does indeed intend to turn it into a remake (when he gets to it).

The interview you are referencing is a link below this page of the transcript of the interview (and one I didn't read until you pointed it out) however the text is there. Thanks for pointing out something I missed. Either way, it's good to know it's at least a good possibility. Let's face it, enough fans (myself included) clamoring for a hi-def, graphics-galore version of FFVII will probably be heard seeing how much money the franchise has already made them.

The numbers... what do they mean? (1)

isaacklinger (966649) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247748)

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT AMERICA ANNOUNCES PSP LEADING MARKET SHARE OVER COMPETITORS

Reputable online journal IGN reports PSP is most popular handheld console, despite sales figures implying the opposite [ign.com] . Sony spokesperson explains this apparent conflict, saying "Japan seems to be experiencing a sampling bias, one corrected through the unchallanged accuracy of the IGN survey".

Self-selecting audience of idiots (1)

scot4875 (542869) | more than 8 years ago | (#15247876)

I find the results of this survey suspect. The audience is obviously self-selected of people who prefer to read mindless garbage and post on fanboy-war forums. They probably like self-inflicted pain, too.

I mean, those are the only reasons I can think of to reaad IGN.

--Jeremy (ex-IGN reader)

Re:Self-selecting audience of idiots (0, Troll)

thelinuxjunkie (452581) | more than 8 years ago | (#15248151)

I have to ask about your sig. Why do you think Jesus was a liberal?

In todays society where people like to teach that Jesus loved everyone, and it's okay to do what you want because Jesus loves you, I could understand where you are coming from. But have you actually read the Bible?
Jesus walked into the temples where the anti-christian people of the day congregated, namely the Pharisees and Sadducees and proceeded to call them names! He called them Hypocrits, Vipers, whited sepelchres... He wasn't teaching love everyone, he was teaching that He is the only way out of Hell, and the current philosophy of the Jews was wrong because the preists couldn't atone for anyone's sin, only faith and trust in Christ would save them. He was straight, to the point, in your face and told it like it was.
And they crucified him for it.
He certainly didn't believe in socialism or communism or government support. The contrary is true, he taught faith and absolute trust in the God of our fathers, not the government. When I think of liberal I think socialist, so I am curious, why was Jesus a liberal?
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