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How to Build a Clear Computer Case

CmdrTaco posted more than 15 years ago | from the i-can-see-right-through-you dept.

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Mikey LeBeau writes "Geeknews has a story right now on how to build a clear computer case, and just looking at the pictures, I'm quite impressed. Anyone up for mass-marketing these suckers? "

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Re:All I want... (2)

alhaz (11039) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745686)

That yeong-yang case wholesales for $230, retail is closer to $300. When i asked them how it's worth even half that, they stopped talking.

- Eric

Re:RF Interference (1)

Zurk (37028) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745687)

switch off your speakers. FCC will take care of it if he built it himself and didnt get approval...its not dangerous for your PC IMHO.

Re:RF Interference (2)

alhaz (11039) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745688)

That all depends on what kind of a radio it is and what kind of licenses he does or doesn't have.



If he's using a stock CB radio - that is, 4 watts deadkey / 7 watts peak, the police can call it a domestic disturbance and tell him to knock it off.

Re:pretty cool (1)

fdawg (22521) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745689)

It sounds cool. Itd look cool if the server werent down :-). Slashdot affect?

Actually, a clear case wouldn't look that differnt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745690)

...considering as I never actually have my case on =)

RFI shielding (3)

jetson123 (13128) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745691)

Whatever cases you make, please just make sure you shield them correctly. Unshielded computers are a major headache to your fellow geeks who operate radio and wireless equipment.

I believe there are conductive transparent plastics or films that may work for shielding transparent cases, so please do some research.

Translucent (Coloured) Cases (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745692)

I have two kick-ass translucent cases. One is bright lime green and the other is purple. I go the pair to go in my dorm this fall. They are nicely designed too, with slide-off sides. The cases are are a translucent colour on all sides, but in the front, they have a cool white swoop that goes around the drive areas. I got them at www.hardwarepro.com [hardwarepro.com]

CmdrTaco just Slashdotted Geeknews :/ (1)

L20 (33516) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745693)

As if it wasn't obvious this was going to happen...Geeknews is down now...more than likely because of the infamous "slashdot effect". Not that this is entirely a bad thing...but as long as myour on the matter of cases, why not mirror the other case article they had up there?

Re:RF Interference (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745694)

switch off your speakers.



they are off, thats why i think it isnt good for my PC

#----------------------------
$mrp=~s/mrp/elite god/g;

anyone mirroring this article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745695)

I am trying to look at this but can seem to get into the site, the domain is not registered on my DNS I believe,

Wrong again, Slashdaughter. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745696)

Modern consumer electronics crap lacks adequate shielding. Unless the neighbor is violating FCC regulations you must accept the interference or modify your crappy crappy equipment to reject the signals. The local police have absolutely no jurisdiction over radio.

Re:RF Interference (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745697)

about a month or so ago I asked someone about it and they said there is a thing that can be plugged into the wall that will stop it (the owner of the radio has to have this thing) I dont know what it is or if its true...... also, on some electronic stuff I have, the FCC notice says that if it interferes with other electronics then its a violation of the license.... and i would think his radio interfering with my speakers is an interference...... oh also it screws up my TV when he talks, the tv goes all crazy the picture and sound

#----------------------------
$mrp=~s/mrp/elite god/g;

Re:RF Interference (2)

alhaz (11039) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745698)

(I hit a wrong key or something, this submitted once already before i was finished)

That all depends on what kind of a radio it is and what kind of licenses he does or doesn't have.

He is being pretty rude, and ought to buy a low-pass filter. Maybe you should buy one for him?

If he's using a stock CB radio - that is, 4 watts deadkey / 7 watts peak, the police can call it a domestic disturbance and tell him to knock it off. But they can't take away his radio.

If he is using an outlawed CB or 10 meter ham equipment mofidied to use the 11 meter range (the CB range), he is breaking the law. Unfortunately, the FCC is brutally underfunded, and in 1997 couldn't even get funding to write letters to manufacturers expressing concern over the illegal uses of things like 10 meter linear amplifiers that work just as well on 11 meter. Again, the police can treat this as a domestic disturbance. Unfortunately, only a federal marshall can legally take away his radio. (Tho the cops may do it anyway)

If he is a licensed ham using ham radio equipment that is broadcasting on bands his license doesn't allow, or is transmitting with greater power than his license allows, the FCC won't be happy about it. Your local FCC rep might come out and order him to turn over or destroy his transmitter.

If he is a licensed ham using ham radio equipment that is within the allowable ranges of his license, the police can treat it as a domestic disturbance, but other than annoying you he is breaking no laws.

Most people don't take the time to read the definition of a class B device. A "Class B" electronic device is required to accept any interference caused by other devices. To put that another way, if your neighbor is using legally licensed amateur bands and your TV is picking up his signal, it's *your* fault. He's being a bad neighbor, but it's your fault that your tv is picking up his perfectly legal transmission.

So, you've got a few options.

(1) Offer to buy him a "low pass filter" - anyone who works at a radio equipment store will know exactly what you mean if you ask them for one. it may cost as much as $20, more if he's running a heck of a lot of power out the back of his radio. he puts this in-line on his coax before it reaches the antenna. I would not recommend going to RadioShack for this. Try looking through the yellow pages for a business that sells or leases business radio or ham equipment. A low-pass filter tries to clean out the ranges of transmission that will interfere with A/V equipment. It shouldn't interfere with his fun.

(2) Call the police and have them treat it as a domestic disturbance. They'll come over and give him a talking to, maybe scare him a little. If he's got illegal radio equipment, the most they can legally do is tell the FCC. Some cops will take it away anyway on the chance that the person in question knows it's illegal and won't complain to the feds.

(3) Buy some high-pass filters to put on your tv and stereo to filter out his transmissions. This might not work, if, like you say, anything with a speaker repeats his voice.

(4) Stick a pin through his coax. This will make his radio's finals explode the next time he tries to transmit. This is, of course, destruction of personal property, 100% illegal, and I don't condone it. But some people can be real pricks, and the other three might not work.

Overall, don't assume that he's doing it maliciously. He might not know that he's causing you a problem. He may have some high-pass filters for you to install on your TV and stereo. Maybe he has a low-pass filter that's simply stopped working and he doesn't realize it.

Ham's are generally gregarious people who like to share their hobby with anyone who's interested, much like any other class of geek.

pretty cool (1)

Kabby (1265) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745699)

we need better cases :)

Box detailing.. (1)

Bowie J. Poag (16898) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745700)

Funky. We've come a long way, I guess.. I remember being in awe when I saw my first non-beige machine back in '88 or so..I'm really surprised nobody has gotten into the market for selling customized parts for cases. I think my box would look excellent with 15 coats of cherry red paint and some chrome on the front. :)
Bowie J. Poag

RF Interference? (2)

J. Pierpont (58099) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745701)

It looks neat, but isn't one of the points of metal cases to block radio interference? It strikes me that plexiglass (or is it transparent aluminum?) cases would not work properly.

IANAP, though, so I could be way off.

The other problem is that everyone would see how messy the inside of my case is. It get embarrassed when I have to go into it when people are around.

-awc

Clear Case (1)

xtype (41544) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745702)

I have been working on a clear case design based on the
In-Win [in-win.com] A500. Plexie(sp) glass and I will use the chassis
from the A500. No neon lights (what is that about anyway?),
and all of the awesome benefits of the A500. These cases
rule! Everyone should have an A500.

Re:Box detailing.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745703)

All I want out of life is a black computer case. I don't understand why specialty computer shops can sell an average minitower with black plastic instead of beige plastic for about double the price. I would have thought that some manufacturer would have realized that theres a large profit margin there, and started mass producing these things. I don't care what the shape is, they could use the exact same molds for the plastic as the beige ones, just use black (or for that matter, red, blue, white, etc) plastic and mass produce them!

Re:pretty cool (1)

Juln (41313) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745704)

We need better cases, and this one is attractive, but i would like some new functionality also. Perhaps producing a lot of these would be worthwhile if someone would design them to have some nice usability features, such as how the new apple g3 cases open without removing any screws.
As far as I can tell, case design for most computers hasn't changed since my TI 8086 in 1984. Some easy to use clasps on the side would be nice!

I like the idea of it glowing, also.

Don't you just love it when you read an article... (1)

Mandoric (55703) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745705)

like this a week after you buy a new (insert eq here)?

=p

Re:Clear Case (1)

Juln (41313) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745706)

er, i had an A500, but i dont think its the kind you meant...

Clear PC Cases (1)

Gerk (14824) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745707)

This is nothing really new..just new to the mass public I guess.

My old drummer in my band made me a pleiglass computer case years ago.

Just to give you a time frame on this, it ran Slackware 2.0 on my kicking 386dx40 :) Unfortunately the machine was stolen a few years back.

we don't need stinkin case! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745708)

Remove the top cover case, it looks more hard core than those ugly curvy plastic case.

whooo!! (1)

miahrogers (34176) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745709)

this will be cool when i get to fill one with an overclocked quad athlon and then submerge the fscker in mineral oil. Especially with the glowing case, now if i could only find something cool looking that has the same density as mineral oil, to give the cool effect of "orbit" drinks. Now that would kick some G3 ass!!!

geeknews slow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745710)

Geeknews is very slow, does anyone know of any other sites about other custom computer cases. Also, what does a NeXT(caps?) cube look like?

Re:Wrong again, Slashdaughter. (2)

alhaz (11039) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745711)

That's entirely true, but if someone in your neighborhood is doing something to antagonize you, that's a domestic disturbance. So, like i said, the police can come over and say "Knock it off" -- same as if you let your dog out at night to bark at the sky. But they can't do anything about the radio itself.

Of course, you would have to show that you'd exausted your other options and that the person in question didn't care that he was causing you problems.

Clear shielding options.. (1)

Myself (57572) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745712)

We tried chickenwire inside plexiglas, but it looked like crap and didn't work too well. (I could still pick my IDE bus up on FM radio 10 feet away). That was years ago tho. I did manage to replace the cover on my 10 meg drive with a clear one tho, and that was very cool.

Since then, I've seen "clear" calculators and other things that lead me to believe that clear substances can be made fairly conductive.

Combine that with a network of ultrathin copper wires embedded in the plastic to "drain" anything caught by the clear coating, and we might have a winner. Come to think of it, the wire could be inlaid in patterns and used decoratively?

Let's not stop there! Forget the ceramic cases on chips, make them out of glass. And embed LEDs into the chip at interesting points. Hey where do I go to patent this?

All very nice BUT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745713)

plexiglas doesn't supress RF. So that case is leaking RF all over the place. No one will be 'making' THAT case style for sale. So you are on your own to break the law and make that case.

I like the Q500 better (1)

Serfer (11135) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745714)

Bigger is better, especially when it comes to heat.
A larger case will always be cooler than a smaller one, equally equipped
oh, and people, remember to have some fans REMOVING air. When air is compressed it heats up

More for black (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745715)

The reason that black plastic PCs are so expensive is just because black parts are VERY difficult to get, particularly for individual shops. One customer at my old store wanted a 100% black system - including keyboard, mouse, and monitor. Finding a black 2X CD-ROM was tough. The customer ended up paying a ridiculous amount of money for a P200 system. Color is ready for prime time, but it seems to me that manufacturers don't want the little shops to access it that easily.

Re:RF Interference? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745716)

These clear plastic cases must be treated with a clear conductive coating. There is a company out on the web called LessEMF that sells clear conductive coated glass panels and plastic sheeting. I tested the plastic sheeting with an ohm meter and it had less than 50 ohms of resistance while still appearing crystal clear. I bet you could make a neat enclosure yourself from the plexiglass panels. The prices were a little steep, but most of there competition required a large minimum order.

Hahahahaha (1)

MostlyHarmless (75501) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745717)

LOL! Does that mean we can't use the clear cases until they invent a transparent RF shield? ...

Re:this other /. story had better ones (1)

Mapultoid (72791) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745718)

hey buddy, you should change your sig so that it is attributed to Ghandi. The question was asked by a reporter, Ghandi asnwered.

Re:RF Interference? (3)

Macdude (23507) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745719)

Plastic may be an "excellent" insulator but to shield RF you need a good conductor, and plactic is a lousy conductor. All plastic cases have some form of conductive coating on their inner surfaces, or an internal metal cage.

Re: holes in your case;

Radio waves have a physical size, if the hole is too small the wave can't get through (see: mesh satellite dish). A good case has a metal shield over any unused drive slot.

Not sure I like clear cases (1)

TheGeek (65841) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745720)

Why make your computer look like an Imac? Personally I'd rather funkify my computer case with paint, glue-on circuit boards, tubing, or whatever other cyberpunkish paraphenalia I can find.

TheGeek
http://www.geekrights.org [geekrights.org]

Re:I like the Q500 better (2)

Macdude (23507) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745721)

oh, and people, remember to have some fans REMOVING air. When air is compressed it heats up

Just don't over do it. Remember that convection cooling comes from air-FLOW -- think "wind chill factor". Creating a vacuum in your case reduces the amount of air available to transfer the excess heat to.

Just moving the air around inside your case doesn't do any good, you have to move air _through_ your case.

Why make your computer look like an Imac? (1)

TheGeek (65841) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745722)

Seems to me it would be a lot cooler to get tubing, paint, circuit boards, whatever and make your computer into a cyberpunkish funkified monstrosity. At least if you have some artistic style.

TheGeek
http://www.geekrights.org [geekrights.org]

I would buy an iMac or G3 tower *if*... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745723)

Two words - 'Charcoal Grey'. Classy, and very cool. Apple... are you listenin'?

iLinux (1)

napnetdotcom (77871) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745724)

here's somethin kinda the same i build a long time ago

www.napnet.com/iLinux

Re:RF Interference (2)

sjames (1099) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745725)

If he's actually transmitting enough power to cause you to hear it with the amp turned off, he's most likely operating outside of FCC rules. Talk to your neighbor first, he may not realize it's happening.

Re:More for black (1)

Sloppy (14984) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745726)

Apple (successfully) cheated in this regard. On their blue and white G3 minitowers, the CD/DVD drives are generic beige, but behind a blue trapdoor.

Re:RF Interference (1)

bigboy (75633) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745727)

My neighbor's cb does the same to my speakers.. I found a fix though.. I just take my unused case cover for my computer and sit it over my sub, which contains the amp, on the floor and it actually works very good, no more interference :)

Re:Box detailing.. - are you loony? (1)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745728)


I really hate it when people brag of having X many coats of (laquer no less!) paint on their custom car, so don't start on computers!

Wanting to have that many coats of paint on anything is asking to have it crack on you. Never mind that Laquer is a crappy paint, most likely to oxidize, crack, and is a huge enviromental hazard in application.

Re:RF Interference (1)

Scott-W (43401) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745729)


(1) Offer to buy him a "low pass filter" - anyone who works at a radio equipment store will know exactly what you mean if you ask them for one. it may cost as much as $20, more if he's running a heck of a lot of power out the back of his radio. he puts this in-line on his coax before it reaches the antenna. I would not recommend going to RadioShack for this. Try looking through the yellow pages for a business that sells or leases business radio or ham equipment. A low-pass filter tries to clean out the ranges of transmission that will interfere with A/V equipment. It shouldn't interfere with his fun.

(3) Buy some high-pass filters to put on your tv and stereo to filter out his transmissions. This might not work, if, like you say, anything with a speaker repeats his voice.

Here are a few other ideas:

* Buy a package, or two, of 0.01 uF bypass capactors, and connect them across the speaker treminals. The bypass capactors act as a short circuit to RF, but won't do anything to power and audio.

* Try putting an AC line filter between the device being affected, and the AC line. It is possabile that the interferance could be comming in through the AC wiring.

* Switch to shielded cable, if you have that option(some manufactures mold the cable pernamently to thier speakers). This will make a big differance(it will cut down on alot of crosstalk, and other interferance), and you really should use shielded cable on your audio/vidio, speaker, data, and antenana(RF) conections anyways.

BTW, one inportaint FYI: ham radio operators can legealy operate radio equment that they've built or modified without having that equiptment type-accepted, as long as it's for personal use. For expample, If a ham builds his own radio, or modifies his radio, and he's useing it for his own use, his doesn't have to get it type-accepted. If he's building or modifing radio equiptment comericially, however, he still needs to get that equiptment type-accepted for it to be legal.

altering the ol' beige box to make it cool (1)

chocolatetrumpet (73058) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745730)

I like my case; it's heavy, big, and beige.. who has ideas on what I can do to make it cool? I could, paint it, ... what else?

QRO@Whisky-land QRP@8Papa-land (1)

Sly Mongoose (15286) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745731)

I always seem to bust the pile-up with <100w so I never bothered to acquire a linear. Better still, wait until the rare DX calls me and begs for my QSL info...

Also, I don't dim my own lights and crash my server.

QRO: Last resort of the LID! ;-)

73, de Gus, Eight Papa Six Sly Mongoose

Geeknews sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745732)

This is the publicity they were looking for so they could push commercial.

Re:RF Interference (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745733)

>>* Buy a package, or two, of 0.01 uF bypass capactors, and connect them across the speaker treminals. The bypass capactors act as a short circuit to RF, but won't do anything to power and audio.

That might not be a good idea:

In the ARRL Handbook (for the Radio Amateur) 1999, page 28.12, it says:

"Warning: Bypassing Speaking Leads:

Older amateur literature might tell you to put a 0.01-uF capacitor across the speaker terminals to cure speaker-lead interference. *Don't do this!* {emphasis in book} Some modern solid-state amplifiers can break into a destructive, full-power, sometimes ultrasonic oscillation if they are connected to a highly capacitive load. If you do this to your neighbor's amplifier you will have a whole new kind of personal diplomacy problem! -- Ed Hare, KA1CV, ARRL Laboratory Supervisor"

CE approval?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745734)

Could be a problem to get the system to comply with the CE regulations limiting electromagnetic emission in this computer case......

Re:All I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745735)

http://www.yeongyang.com/yy-0210.htm this case used to be avail in black also

Re:whooo!! (1)

miahrogers (34176) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745736)

note how you abbreviated my entire respose. The LOOK of it would kick G3 ass. Of coarse the processors would, maybe you should READ comments before you post.

Re:All I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745737)

I seriously doubt you can hack a NeXT cube up, but black (and beige) cube ATX cases do exist: http://yycomputer.com/YY0210.HTML (I have one. It's not too shabby, but it is expensive.)

[OT] Re:this other /. story had better ones (1)

GregWebb (26123) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745739)

Not quite. Ghandi did say something like that, but it was about 'civilisation in England' IIRC, asked by Winston Churchill.

Sorry to be a pedant, feel free to moderate this down!

Greg

Re:Box detailing.. (1)

Afterimage (44695) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745747)

I must say, I'm much happier with my previously ivory linux server being black and red, my beige G3 now black and silver. The only downside other than uniqueness is that black paint tends to show dust a lot sooner than beige.
--

Dust Bunny exhibit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745748)

ack, I have enough problems with the strange blue dust that collects in the dorms. With a clear case, you could watch them grow inside. Yech. I got better things to do than dust out my box, like oogle over my uptime. Besides, how often do you stare at your case? I usually try to put it somewhere unnoticed, but still accessible for an ocassional disk or cd swap. Won't a clear case in sunlight heat up more than a traditional case? I got a better idea. How about a huge tower system all chromed up. You can use it as a full length mirror. How about imbedding your mb and drives and junk into your desk, covered by plexiglass. Then you can glace down on your desk and watch everything. How about just hiding the box and having a remote stat display on your desk, about the size of an alarm clock. Come up with me to my room so I can show you my box. I know you want to.

Re:[OT] Re:this other /. story had better ones (1)

Mapultoid (72791) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745749)

Actually I was wrong and so were you greg. as the original poster above said in an email to me, it was "What do you think of Western civilization? I think it would be a good idea." My apologiesfor misreading.

fishtank case (1)

semis (14252) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745750)

Hmm... fill your clear case with an inert solution, and put some of those sony robotic goldfish in there...

now THERE'S geek factor!!!

These cases exist! (1)

periscope (20296) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745751)

Have you been into a Tiny computers showroom recently? You'll find that they have a selection of cutaway/clear caseswhich they use to demonstrate the technology inside their machines to customers - maybe people should ask them about it.

geeknews down (1)

hellish (41773) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745752)

slashdot effect.

Re:RF Interference (1)

Scott-W (43401) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745753)


I think what you're discribing is an AC line filter. If that's the case, you have to be the one to use it, since it's your equiptment that's being interfered with.

It looks like the interferance is comming in through the AC line, although I'm not ruleing out poor or badly shielded A/V, speaker, and antenna conections, or a bad ground somewhere in your house wiring.

Does the FCC notice on your electronics look like this: This device complies with part 15 of the FCC rules. Operation is subject tw the fowwing two conditions: (1) This device may not cause harmful interferance, and (2) this device must accept any interferance recieved, including interferance that may cause undesired operation?

That lable's on every electronic device, form your stereo, to your computer. What it basicly says is if your device starts putting out interferance, and the interferance proves harmful, you are leagelly obligated to stop using it until you get it fixed. But, if something is interfering with your device, even if it is causing problems with that device, you have no leagel protection from the interferance, you're on your own.

Re:pretty cool (1)

Reason. (64649) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745756)

Allmost all modern cases are screwless now, arn't they? All of mine certainly are.

Slashdotted (1)

twixel (30362) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745758)

It is connected via a UUNET link.

ahhh!$%@$ (1)

hellish (41773) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745760)

ah yes the infamous slashdot effect.. its malda's plan to rid the internet of small news sites who might steal his glory some day :). just curious.. what kind of server is /. running on?

this other /. story had better ones (1)

levl289 (72277) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745767)

/. had some pics of a miniaturized linux pc here [mag2.com] and here [mag2.com] . These IMO look much better and are easier to make (no corners to align etc...).

plus just get yourself some allen bolts, drill through the panels at various places, and you've got yourself the mounts for the internals. break out the dremel, and round the edges (or a bandsaw if you have one), and dip it in a chemical like acetone to give it a frosted look. instead of static flourescent lights, hook 'em up to the hard drive, or scsi bus, so they blink on and off. you'll win the most-annoying prize for sure.

hrm...I think I have my next case.

-lev

uhhhh (0)

k_187 (61692) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745768)

apple?

All I want... (1)

jwriney (16598) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745769)

...is a nice, simple, black cube. Not clear. No racing stripes. No holes and crap drilled through the front. Drives hidden behind a panel somewhere, and maybe a tasteful bank of LEDs or an LCD panel on the front. Simple.

I'd even use a Rock City case, after I paint over all the funky squiggles over the front. Too bad you can't buy those seperately.

Is it possible to mod a Next cube to take PC internals?

--John Riney
jwriney@awod.com

Re:Clear Case (1)

Stinking Pig (45860) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745770)

Yeah, I use one of these -- I especially like being able to slide the motherboard and cards out on one tray, and pull the hard drives out as a single unit.

w/r/t some previous comment about screws -- we don't need no stinking screws!

Re:Clear Case (1)

xtype (41544) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745771)

Okay.

Re:RF Interference? (1)

stevef (5539) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745772)

A lot of computer cases are made of plastic these days.... look at your average Packard Bell. No comment on the quality, though.

Steve

Re:All I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745773)

This is what you are looking for: Yeong Yabg YY-B0210 Cube Server [yycomputer.com]

Clear cases: Macintosh '99 = Compaq '84 (1)

jsreece (71347) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745774)

As an historical note, there was a
clear-cased demo model of the original
Compaq luggable gracing the cover of
one of the PC magazines circa '84.
It attracted a lot of interest, which
merely prompted Compaq to announce it
was a one-off and that it had no plans
to put clear cases into production. Kind
of funny since Apple is always claiming the
PC world is ripping it off....

Re:All I want... (1)

Stinking Pig (45860) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745775)

IBM had a cool idea for the Aptivas a while ago, though I don't know if it ever hit production. It was a two box design -- one laptop sized chunk that sat under the monitor and held the floppy /cdrom / lights / power button. A second minitower case held the mobo / ram / hard drives /expansion cards / power supply, which you could shove behind the desk and forget about.

Of course ideally it would be built into the desk...

Re:All I want... (1)

Stinking Pig (45860) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745776)

Looks like a ProLiant 3000 with the plastic crap pulled off, spray-painted black.

goin' for style (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745777)

I'm looking at building a nice machine this fall, but I'm not sure what I want to use for a case. I've seen some nices ones at futurecases.com and whatnot, but I dunno if anyone's seen better. I'm looking at putting an Athlon into this beast, so keep the power requirements in mind (yeesh, I forgot 'em myself... O_o). So, anyone got any suggestions? (We are talking commercial here. I haven't got the gumption to build my own.) Dygel, a.k.a. Eric Kolb dygel@weyland-yutani.net

Re:fishtank case (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745778)

Okay, I want one. Of course, it might be nice to watercool the CPU while I'm at it. Any other suggestions?

Re:All I want... (1)

Paul Jakma (2677) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745779)

Where did you get that price from? Yeong Yang quoted me quite a high price, but reffered me to a dealer as they don't sell direct.

But the dealer sold it to me for much less: £130.
(1£= approx 1.5$). Which is a good price considering the size of the case.

Probably the prices you're getting from YY are way higher than actual retail prices.

Re:More for black (2)

IntlHarvester (11985) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745780)


If one wants to pay a lot of money for a black system, they can always call IBM.
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Re:this other /. story had better ones (1)

McKing (1017) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745781)

Maybe it was Gandhi that said somtehing like that, but Ghandi didn't. ;)

Re:Clear cases: Macintosh '99 = Compaq '84 (2)

IntlHarvester (11985) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745782)


As a historical note, there were demo clear case Apple ][s and Macintoshes, and if you really look, there were probably 'clear case' IBM mainframes, washing machines, and automobiles going way back. Don't believe the hype.
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I agree. (1)

Roofio (55806) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745784)

This was the first time I've ever been there. I went and looked around and read all the articles. They didn't seem very geeky nor was there anything I feel was newsworthy. Just when I thought Slashdot was going downhill, places like this come along and make me remember how great it really is.

Re:Box detailing.. (1)

McKing (1017) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745786)

Funky. We've come a long way, I guess.. I remember being in awe when I saw my first non-beige machine back in '88 or so..I'm really surprised nobody has gotten into the market for selling customized parts for cases. I think my box would look excellent with 15 coats of cherry red paint and some chrome on the front. :)

My uncle managed a company in the late 70's/early 80's that painted phones for AT&T. He tried to talk the owners of the company into approaching IBM about painting their new (at the time) XT desktop machines. No matter how bad he tried to talk them into it, they kept saying that it was a bad idea, and that no one would ever want a computer in any other color. If he had pressed harder, maybe we wouldn't be in this blah beige world.

I don't really want any funky designs, anyway. I just want a seven foot high rack case filled to the brim with quad Xeon III's and a couple hundred gigs of storage!

Re:whooo!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745788)

overclocked quad athlon......Now that would kick some G3 ass!!!

Gee ya think? I sure hope that 4 OCed CPUS could beat a single G3 buddy.

Re:RF Interference? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745789)

Thank you. I looked into this in detail and actually got close to 100 checks, but determined the following: tooling costs and design (stock full tower): $2,000,000 certification: $100,000 at least This is because a)I would have to use aluminum-powder-doped plexiglass and figure out whether or not it worked (r&d), b)passing would de dicier with plexiglass as the aluminum distribution is not 100% uniform (if I were unlucky, I would have to do it again), and c)plexi carries load poorly -- more r&d. Also, there is the problem with static and acrylic or plexi -- it carries and will hold a major honking static charge, so grounding is a larger, not a smaller issue. I am not saying that I have dropped it, but that I won't have the money for a proof of concept for a few months. But for commercial production, it isn't that simple. Then there is the cost, which isn't helped by the fact that I won't sell a crappy power supply, and the power supplies in most low-buck PCs need the case to pass certification. With less help from the case, that leaves me with power supplies starting at $100 for a 200 watt ATX. People who don't know systems (and that is a lot of kids out there who are my prime market) look at prices like that and cannot imagine that they are legitimate. So, there is alot more to it. Anyway, that will be my first foray into manufacturing, so wish me luck. And no, until I have actual product, I am not posting the url on /., unlike essentially everyone else in the world. FYI, the reason for beige and cream cases have to do with European (DIN and UK, now EC) and Japanese reflectivity and glare regulations that are still very much in force. Again, irrelevant to the hobbiest, and a pain for people like me, who want to manufacture. Black, however, is not too much of a problem. I know that in the US, CalPC will sell you a black case for the same price (some models) or just a little more.

ugly (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745797)

i think those are the ugliest 2 things ive ever seen

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Geez (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745798)

Slashdotted already??

Re:Plastic PB's (1)

Cobratek (14456) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745799)

Those plastic PB cases have a very thin metal lining to cut down on RF.

Cobratek

Re:All I want... (1)

cwj123 (16058) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745800)

Yep, they were the Aptiva Sxx models. A little slower than an adverage computer of the same speed but it worked...

Suggestion for a poll (1)

Cironian (9526) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745801)

How many /. readers actually have cases on their PCs? Mine only gets put on when I have to transport the box around. (I dont want anything to fall out I guess)

Re:All I want... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745802)

I think it was black hole inc or something like that out in colorado was working on a machine that used the original NeXT cube as a case. I haven't checked it out in a long time though.

Re:Suggestion for a poll (2)

Jonas ÷berg (19456) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745803)

I tend to leave all my cases on nowdays. I didn't when I was running DOS/Windows though for some reason. Ever since I switched to GNU/Linux, I just stick the computer somewhere out of sight and forget about it.

Re:RF Interference? (2)

Serfer (11135) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745804)

Plastic is an excellent insulator which is why they use it on wires and other such stuff. I don't think using plastic could cause you any harm anyways, like a thread a long time ago about plastic cases, your case is certainly not RF proofed. There are holes all over cases, the plastic drive slot holders, and other such things. A plastic case will not have problems with rf anymore than a metal case would. The only possible thing i could think of that could be a problem is the heat buildup since plastic is a good insulator. But this guy seems to be alright with the fans he has. I've actually thought of doing something similar. But I never got around to it. That and i don't have the moey. But for those of you that are interested, i thought of annodizing my case, here's a page that tells you how to annodize at home: http://www.warpig .com/paintball/technical/paintguns/anodize.shtml [warpig.com]

I love clear cases (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745805)

Next time I run my yc156(3cpx5000A7) amp on 20 meters I'll be thinking of all the windows machines in my neighborhood that are rebooting.

mirror needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745806)

yeah I can't get there. You know maybe the guys at slashdot could ask permission to post a copy of the story on slashdot servers b/c 1) the /. effect will not terrorize anyone else server and 2) slashdot/andover gets money via more banner advertisements. Save those poor websites from overabuse or they will someday call slashdot a terrorist organization.

Re:RF Interference? (1)

Syslevel (69599) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745813)

Modern Plastic cases all still have to be coated on the inside with some form of metallic shielding. Which it's fairly certain will end up being rather opaque.

A clear computer case would have to be certified as meeting at a minimum Class A and probably Class B requirements for interference (Class B is more restrictive, for places where your neighbor is likely to want to listen to the radio, watch TV, etc.).

Individual computer enthusiasts can run their hardware unshielded and get away with it, because it most often probably isn't bothering anybody (or at least it isn't bothering anybody who has the means to figure out who the jerk with the unshielded PC is...) When it becomes a matter of mass marketing such things, the FCC will step in and you'll be dumping a lot of plastic in a landfill somewhere if you didn't plan your design properly.

Re:Clear Case (1)

Syslevel (69599) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745814)

Yes, In-Win are presently the best cases I have been able to find. I have three of them now. The ATX models are sooo thick.

I typically will spend almost any extra amount needed to get the best case for a system. Since my cases traditionally get used for four or five generations of motherboards, it just makes sense.

Re:RF Interference? (1)

pen (7191) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745815)

Looks like somebody didn't pay attention in Physics class...

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RF Interference (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745816)

My neighbor has one of those radios, Im not sure what its called, but a 2 way radio.. anyway, whenever he talks, i can hear him very loud out of my surround sound system speakers, my headphones, and any other speaker, I was just wondering if this could be dangerous for my PC.... if so, who do I tell? the FCC? its annoying to wake up in the middle of the night cause of his blasting voice over all my speakers! heh

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Re:RF Interference? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#1745817)

How many of us actually close the case up anyway?

No, not Slashdotted.... MCIkilled (1)

MrP- (45616) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745818)

I bet this site, along with like most every other, is down because of the MCIWorldCom crap..... the whole internet is like molasses... if MCI is the second biggest, im glad the biggest (AT&T?) didnt go down.... and imagine the fun if MCI,AT&T and a handfull of other companies go down in Y2K, that would be fun! lol

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they're already out there.. (1)

derF024 (36585) | more than 15 years ago | (#1745819)

i was reading this article, and decided to search through the slashdot archives, because it reminded me a lot of an article i had seen before.

i came across an january article that had a link to Colorcase.com [colorcase.com] which sells colored translucent case, as well as a number of other realy cool looking cases.. no neon lights though.
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