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27 Playable Wii Games At E3

Zonk posted more than 8 years ago | from the omg-so-cool dept.


The Nintendo conference seemed to be the perfect opposite of Sony's conference yesterday. It was polished, the presenters were poised, and the demos conveyed exactly the message they were aiming for. Notable info includes 27 playable Wii titles on the E3 floor, a speaker in the Wii controller, a StarFox title for the DS, and a confirmation of motion sensor in the nunchuck attachment. There will be two versions of Twilight Princess (one for Wii, one for GC) and they'll both be out on Wii launch day. Launch is slated for Q4 of this year. The presenters kept the launch price and date under wraps as the tone of the event was inspiration, not information. The number of playable games available this week confirms their commitment to a launch date this year, and the hilarious tennis game played onstage by the Nintendo honchos and the contest winner made their 'playing = believing' slogan really hit home. More flash than substance, but a solid presentation overall

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First comment? (0, Redundant)

FryingDutchman (891770) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294801)

SWEET! Go nintendo! HI MOM! Nintendo seems to be getting a better reception than Sony and MS - their shennanigans are cheeky and fun. Sony's are meanspirited and misanthropic. Or so you tell me.

Re:First comment? (0, Offtopic)

UnseenLlama (967777) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294933)

Captain O'Hagan: I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, Shenanigans.

Mac: Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy stuff on the wall and the mozzarella sticks?

Farva: You mean Shenanigans?


Slight disappointment (3, Insightful)

Lacobra (954784) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294803)

That rocked hard, but the absence of any SSB details, Virtual Console demo or DS-Wii connectivity was a major letdown. Compared to Sony's CG filled rip-fest. Wii couldn't have asked for more. Nintendo FTW!

Re:Slight disappointment (0, Troll)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294834)

Nintendo FTW? WTF?

Re:Slight disappointment (0, Redundant)

Gr33nNight (679837) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294889)

FTW = for the win (acronym). So its Nintendo for the win!

Re:Slight disappointment (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294929)

I know. It was just an ill-conceived attempt at humor.

wiiii (1)

Dragoonkain (704719) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294805)

nintendo = owns

sony = owned

Might be great games, but... (-1, Redundant)

MrHeartbreak (959513) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294808)

It's still a silly name.

Re:Might be great games, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294995)

Hey. You.

Shut the fuck up.


Re:Might be great games, but... (5, Insightful)

CCFreak2K (930973) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295102)

Think about it, though: It's perfect from a marketing standpoint. Why have a stupid name like "PlayStation Third Regurgitation" or "Revolution?" With a name like "Wii," people go, "What the Hell? What the Hell is 'Wii?!'" It's almost like viral marketing in that it exploits the mind. People make a lot of noise when they're confused.

Re:Might be great games, but... (5, Informative)

casings (257363) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295123)

Check them all out at the official Nintendo site: []

with all the press info one can chew.

Re:Might be great games, but... (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295180)

"Might be great games, but... It's still a silly name."

Oh wow... I never saw it that way. Thanks for mentioning that, I think I'm going to spend $600 on a Playstation 3. It's a lot cooler cos they use the Spider Man font.

I think I speak for us all when I say... (5, Funny)

brjndr (313083) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294809)

Scott Dyer, you luck bastard.

I hate you so much

Re:I think I speak for us all when I say... (3, Insightful)

b06r011 (763282) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294852)

he is indeed a lucky ***
he played doubles tennis against Reggie & Iwata, but had Miyamoto on his side... not a lot of people can say that...
i think the important question is, who won?

Re:I think I speak for us all when I say... (2, Funny)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294882)

"he played doubles tennis against Reggie(...) i think the important question is, who won?"

Do you have to ask? I'm sure Scott's name was officially taken as well.

Re:I think I speak for us all when I say... (2, Interesting)

Zardus (464755) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294894)

Mayomato and Scott won in the end. It was funny watching them all goof off.

Re:I think I speak for us all when I say... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294935)

Team Miyamoto, of course! He's the Chuck Norris of video games, doncha know! He can win virtual Blackjack with only one card. //the card has Mario on it, o' course

Q4 2006 (3, Informative)

mysqlrocks (783488) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294817)

An important piece left out of the summary but mentioned in some of the articles is that the Wii will launch Q4 of 2006. It looks like shoppers this holiday season will be able to pick from all the next-gen consoles.

Re:Q4 2006 (3, Funny)

buswolley (591500) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294928)

So they will get the christmas rush.. is this some of the greatest execution ever by any company in the industry?

Re:Q4 2006 (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294987)

It looks like shoppers this holiday season will be able to pick from all the next-gen consoles.

I keep on saying this: It's way too soon to say that Sony won't screw up the launch and miss the holiday release date. :-)

But the depressing thought is that, even though we now know beyond any shadow of a doubt that the Nintendo Wii is the superior system, I still expect Sony to dominate this holiday season.

Part of it is that, like it or not, Nintendo is treated like a kid's toy. Sony is treated like it's a "professional" system, which is doubly stupid when talking about games, but there you have it. I think Nintendo is trying to go for Apple's "stylish and powerful" image with the Wii, and while that's worked fairly well for the iPod (and, in a way, the Nintendo DS), I'm not sure it'll work for the Wii.

The other part is that there are so many sequels coming out for the PS3, and while gamers will complain about sequels to no end, they'll still buy them. It may be the PS3, but all the games are at least at "4" for the PS3. You've got Metal Gear Solid 4, Devil May Cry 4, Final Fantasy 13 (13?! don't people ever try new things?), all coming out for the PS3. And despite the fact that they're all rehashed sequels, people will undoubtably buy the PS3 for them, and ignore the Wii as a "kid's toy".

So the PS3 will look professional, cost more, and have worse games. And I've got this depressing feeling that people will buy it because of those, and not in spite of those. There are times I really hate the general public.

Re:Q4 2006 (2, Interesting)

jferris (908786) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295021)

I think that Nintendo has a good chance of taking a lot of names this generation. Previous generations, parents would by consoles for their kids. Chances are, they could buy a Wii for the whole family to enjoy. I think the unique interaction possibilites with Wii is enough to make sure people have one at the house in case a party breaks out. ;-)

Re:Q4 2006 (1)

Altima(BoB) (602987) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295035)

Unless they live in Europe of course.

Looks like the EU won't see the PS3 until 2007, and Nintendo havent been forthcoming in their approach to the EU market, but with the painful price point on the PS3, I'm not looking forward to what they'll put it at in Europe before the 21% VAT sales tax...

Re:Q4 2006 (1)

stx23 (14942) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295061)

Other than the staggered worldwide launch within 14 weeks thing? That's early 2007 at the latest ny the look of it. []

Re:Q4 2006 (1)

koweja (922288) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295117)

True, but Nintendo screwing over Europe kind of goes without saying.

Decision made (2, Interesting)

Kazzahdrane (882423) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294827)

Well, I've already decided that out of the next-gen consoles I'll be preordering, the Wii is the one I won't be selling on eBay for megabux.

Interesting that Nintendo have finally conceeded to having two different versions of Twilight Princess, rather than a Gamecube game that would have added Wii functionality.

Re:Decision made (1)

IcarusMoth (631872) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295129)

I too thought that was interesting. But the first thing that I thought when i heard that was "so will the drive accept GC disks as promised". Because last year we were told that we would be able to play our Gamecube games on the Wii.

Too awesome (1)

JaguarSavages (558510) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294832)

While watching the presentation live from Gamespot, I couldn't help but laugh at just how cool and fun that tennis game between the Nintendo execs and the contest winner was. It just looked so fun. I seriously cannot wait for this console!

Nevermind those engadget idiots :) (4, Insightful)

csoto (220540) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294835)

I like the name "wii" and I'm getting one for my son the day it comes out. Nintendo understands why I got into games to begin with - social interaction with people in the room. Yeah, FPS is fun, but nothing beats clobbering your bros. at Cyberball or NHLPA Hockey (yes, Genesis days, TYVM) and telling them their "face" was just handed to them...

Re:Nevermind those engadget idiots :) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15295053)

In full agreement here, except I will buy mine for my daughter.

And if the Wii is considerably less than the PS3, I will easily be able to convince my wife that buying a Wii with several extra games and many or all of the peripheral devices is a good choice.

Not sure who is looking forward to our Winter Solstice Celebrations this year, me or my daughter, but it is probably me.

Re:Nevermind those engadget idiots :) (2, Funny)

SetupWeasel (54062) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295081)

I remember!

Banning the "cheap goal" in SNES NHL '94 under penalty of an ass kicking.

The screams of "Mom! JOE KEEPS BREATHING THROUGH HIS NOSE!" when I was winning. Those were the days.

Re:Nevermind those engadget idiots :) (2, Insightful)

God'sDuck (837829) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295134)

intendo understands why I got into games to begin with - social interaction with people in the room.
indeed. i love halo. but i have to admit -- silly little sidescroller Super Smash Brothers and all the various MarioKart/MarioTennis etc got gamecubes in lots and lots of dorms, and unlike halo, the girls would play, and unlike halo, there would be laughter and side-conversations during play. x-box is great for immersion...but as much as i've smacked on the puny power of the gamecube...Nintendo is especially gifted at making playtime...playful.

Great, great conference (5, Insightful)

Swimmin' Pants (911939) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294837)

After nearly falling asleep while watching Sony's conference, Nintendo's was a breath of fresh air. The games they had on show looked great, and looked like they played great. They actually had something significant to show! It was awesome, plain and simple. I think Nintendo's really got the goods this generation. I just wish we could've seen a price.

Also, I'm very happy that there's going to be a Fire Emblem game for Wii :)

Re:Great, great conference (1)

jferris (908786) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294977)

All I know about price is $PS3 > $XBOX360 > $WII. Funny thing, is if you reverse that equation, you have my levels of interest in the consoles. Wii is a must have, XBox360 if they start delievering some games, and the PS3 when the price is cut by at least half.

Re:Great, great conference (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15295093)

I'll buy a Wii purely because it's cheaper than the rest, and I DON'T have a HD TV, and don't feel that I'll miss out on all the PS3's HD abilities.

Here's a good commentary [] incase you fell asleep during the video feed.

Coming to a theater near you! (4, Funny)

joshmathis (15461) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294853)

I smell a feature film in the works... The Wiizard? []

Highs, lows, and missing data (3, Informative)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294860)

Low: I think the lack of final price and exact launch date was a bad idea. I know that people were bored during Sony's "stock analysts wet your pants with numbers" opening - but those two details were important. It may be that Nintendo's seeing that Sony's final numbers look like and if they really have a market so they're not competing directly - but who knows.

Highs: Lots of games. Zelda looked awesome, and "Red Steel" is up there on my must try. Even the "Wii Sports" game they showed off towards the end looks interesting - I can see my son and I playing with the baseball game, and my daughter will like the tennis stuff. And golf? Well, that's for my wife so I can get behind her and help her with her strokes.

Low: They kept showing a Mario game (Mario Galaxies or something), but I either missed the details or they didn't talk about it. Where's Mario 128? Where's the Kojima new IP?

High: Showing the new guy playing with the Wii controller. "Easy to use, difficult to master" seems about right. The sweepstakes winner seemed able to play around with it without too many problems - with a few more minutes he would have been better I'm sure.

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294879)

Super Mario Galaxies is Super Mario 128.

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294930)

Er, that was the new Mario game. You didn't really think they were going to call it Super Mario 128, did you?

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (4, Funny)

cyber0ne (640846) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295020)

Well, that's for my wife so I can get behind her and help her with her strokes.

Too.... many.... punchlines.....

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (1)

sehryan (412731) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295023)

I think they are holding back on the launch date and price until after the Microsoft conference later today. Why give away everything when one of your main competitors still has to go.

Of course, I could be completely wrong, but it makes sense.

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (4, Funny)

twistedsymphony (956982) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295165)

PSSST.... don't tell anyone but MS has already revealed their launch date and price point...

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295028)

I'm a bit disappointed at the lack of a price too. Nintendo would have decimated the competition if they pulled a Sony and the first three words were "One Ninety Nine".

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (2, Interesting)

tktk (540564) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295033)

Low: I think the lack of final price and exact launch date was a bad idea.

Nintendo's probably rethinking their pricing now that Sony has high price of $499 & $599. Some Nintendo analyst is problably figuring out if they add another $50 to the cost of the system.

My gut feeling was that it was going to be $249 but now Nintendo might try for $299.

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (2, Interesting)

Silent sound (960334) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295049)

Low: They kept showing a Mario game (Mario Galaxies or something), but I either missed the details or they didn't talk about it. Where's Mario 128? ...That was Mario 128. It has a new name now.

I expect you'll hear about it when it's on the show floor tomorrow?

Personally I thought the Mario Galaxy trailer was the best part of the entire press conference, especially when you got the sense that you could actually see how the controller movements were translating into mario's movements. It just made me really happy, it looks like we're finally getting the 3D mario game Nintendo's been trying to make for years but never quite pulled off.

I was one of those people who played Mario Sunshine and thought the wierd little abstract "bonus levels" were the best part, and went "You know, I wish they'd just release a game of nothing but these Mario Sunshine minilevels". Now they're doing that.

It was odd though how some of the most interesting stuff in that conference just kind of flashed by in four seconds of video. What was that "Disaster: Day of Disaster" thing or whatever? You could have blinked and missed that entire game. In fact I think I did.

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (1)

Jerf (17166) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295086)

It just made me really happy, it looks like we're finally getting the 3D mario game Nintendo's been trying to make for years but never quite pulled off.

I am hoping against hope that Sonic Team manages the same thing with Sonic on Wii. We've been waiting soooo long for a good Sonic 3D game.

(The worst part is that they haven't sucked completely. The Sonic (and Shadow in SA2) sections are actually pretty good; if they actually focused (damn it!) on speedy 3D platforming instead of weighing it down with other stupid bits it'd be awesome. We didn't see much of the Sonic game, but what we saw had nothing that looked like exploration or the silly shooting minigames... which, ironically, might be more fun on the Wii...)

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (1)

Observant_student (973739) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295096)

Aye, disaster was on screen for only a few seconds but I thought it looked amazing! The other two new nintendo titles: Excite Truck and H.A.M.M.E.R. looked meh to me but Disaster seemed beautiful. I wish they'd shown more. I'm wondering what happened to Mario 128 and Smash brothers but what they showed was impressive. The tennis game looks like something I would have a kick with to play with me and my siblings. I'm excited... still have so many questions though. How much? When? Virtual Console?

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (1)

Twiceblessedman (590621) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295058)

Sony never released their final numbers. Sony said units shipped, those are never units purchased. Sony has a habit of doing this, as for final numbers, Nintendo mentioned how many units were purchased of the ds which came to 16 million, being many millions more ahead of the psp through an independant sales analyst firm.

Re:Highs, lows, and missing data (1)

MindStalker (22827) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295083)

Sounds like you saw it. Any links to videos. I can't find any, even the E3TV doesn't have it yet. :(

Nintendo FTW (0)

The_Real_Quaid (892126) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294865)

Props to Nintendo for showing REAL GAMES.

The controller is functional and responsive - true next-generation gameplay.

Sony and M$ = owned.

playing = believing? (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294869)

Doesn't that infringe on Hyundai's trademark of "Driving is believing [] "? Or is that just legal low-class imitation? (No offense -- the Wii looks to be awesome, but copying is still lame.)

Kinda reminds me of (in Texas), Wendy's "It's better here" and HEB's "Here everything's better" (HEB is a grocery chain).

Re:playing = believing? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294969)

The original expression is "seeing is believing" so they both "copied" it from there.

Re:playing = believing? (1)

UbuntuDupe (970646) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294998)

Right. Like the Japanese ever read the Bible. What soul are they trying to save?

Can I roll Need? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294883)

(Metroid Prime) Hunters can use that. ;-)

Re:Can I roll Need? (1)

PaulMorel (962396) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295012)

Yeah, that's clearly a hunter console. Clearly.

Zelda, sports games (2, Interesting)

interiot (50685) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294900)

The per-pixel control doesn't fit that well into Zelda (as part of the game, it's mainly only used for ranged attacks, such as with Zelda's bow). But it's also used quite a bit as a mouse would be in a computer game, letting the user pick things from a UI interface, selecting enemies to focus on, etc. I might have thought that computer UI semantics might not be more complex than consoles (and Nintendo in particular) might go for, but if mouse-like control is the right way to go, then Nintendo's controller will be used quite a bit in a broad range of games.

The presentation also showed that almost every sports game will make big use of the controller.... from Madden to tennis to running (which the Wii sees as the controller being shaken up and down as you make a jogging motion) to driving (as a simulated wheel that should have more resolution than a 1/4" stick can have) to obviously sword fighting.

Also, the Wii controller will have a rumble feature, but the PS3 controller won't? Is that right?

Re:Zelda, sports games (1)

Wile E. 333 (973726) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294955)

Thats right. No rumble for PS-Thwii, but rumble for Wii.

Re:Zelda, sports games (1)

Loiosh-de-Taltos (247549) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294958)

Yes, Nintendo controller with rumble and integrated sound.

Re:Zelda, sports games (1)

oscartheduck (866357) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295046)

From Jostiq: "12:58 pm - "With the bow, the Wii remote adds depth of sound. Built-in to the Wii remote is a speaker. You'll hear the bowstring draw taught and you'll hear the bow sound draw to the screen as the arrow is shot. A quick jab with the Wii remote and shield shove. You'll feel the impact with the built-in rumble." Using pointer to launch boomerang. Classic Zelda chime heard on Wii remote speaker. You can pick up crates with the A button and then chuck them with a quick motion"

So the Wii will definitely. Also a built in speaker. Firing a gun will presumably sound local, then. COOL.

Re:Zelda, sports games (2, Funny)

Frazbin (919306) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295142)

Link's bow, goddammit!

A sucsessful presentation in spite of themselves. (1)

earnest murderer (888716) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294902)

The delivery was pretty bad in places. It's really something that the games/controller are strong enough that the presentation was interesting in spite of the long pauses, missed lines and mistakes. (I wonder what it is like walking around looking so angry all the time? ;)

If the games are as fun as they looked this is going to be a pretty good few years for Nintendo.

Playable Games (1)

stylee (253307) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294915)

The gameplay for the demos in the press conference looked pretty fun. I really can't wait to hear about the games playable on the floor tomorrow. They said there would be 27. I am going through the press conference notes at joystiq and I don't think they mentioned 27 games for the Wii. So I hope there are still some surprises, as far as games and gameplay in store for us tomorrow.

All in all, the press conference sounds like it couldn't have gone better for Nintendo. They have created a ton more hype, while still holding a few cards close to the vest for us to continue to speculate about as we get closer to the launch.

Joystiq (4, Informative)

Southpaw018 (793465) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294921)

Great 'Live' blog-style Joystiq coverage here [] too (IMO better than the Game Daily one). They seemed exceptionally impressed with everything but the eye candy. And by that I mean it sounds like they and everyone else in the audience wanted to be onstage playing. Night and day difference from Sony's conference.

umm (-1, Troll)

jest3r (458429) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294925)

Where is this data coming from .. isn't the press conference tomorrow?

Re:umm (5, Funny)

Zardus (464755) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295009)

The final secret of the Nintendo Wii's innovative controller is a time machine.

That's how their Virtual Console works, too!

Re:umm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15295100)

Sweet! Can I get one sent to me last week?!

Does anyone have a copy of the event? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294927)


Re:Does anyone have a copy of the event? (1)

morrisonsean (543154) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295036)

Become a gamespot *free* member and you'll be able to download the presentation by suppertime tonight. In WM format only though...

Wii-markable (3, Insightful)

swanriversean (928620) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294944)

Early coverage seems to show that after Sony's belly flop yesterday, Nintendo hit a perfect 10 today.

I can't wait to read the reviews tomorrow after everyone has got to play the games!

When Nintendo anounced the virtual console last year, I starting thinking about buying my first console since my SNES (which I still have and play occationally).

Everything they've done since then has shown me they are serious about closing that deal.

Bringing lapsed gamers like me back into the market is just half their plan though, if they can get my mother gaming, or my grandma (that Joy of Painting game might be something she'd really enjoy - if it gets released) then they're going to blow Sony and MS out of the water. I don't even think the so-called "industry experts" have thought about the impact the addtion of lapsed, PC-only, and new gamers will have on the market. Sony may well keep 40-60% of the current market base, but if that market grows, I think it will all go to Nintendo ... and there are significantly more non-gamers than gamers.

Could've been better (4, Insightful)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294950)

I watched the Sony press conference yesterday and that was a total failure (wtf they copy Nintendo's motion sensor after mocking them?) but I think Nintendo's press conference could've gone better. Admittedly, I didn't think they would announce the launch date or price of the Wii (just in case Microsoft decides to announce a price cut later), a lot of the stuff they've showed has already been talked about. Here's my short list of what Nintendo SHOULD have shown:

1. 3rd party add-ons for the Wii controller. Lets get an idea of what developers are doing and show us that they're serious about supporting the Wii.
2. Give us a glimpse at how the older NES, SNES, Genesis, etc games will be played (the Wii controller flat-out lacks the proper number of buttons).
3. Wheres the multiplayer? Yes there was that tennis multiplayer match near the end but it seems like they didn't talk about it much overall.
4. Three words : Super Smash Bros. Where was it?
5. Less pre-made pre-arranged (gameplay?) videos, more on-stage demonstrations. (We don't want another 'was the Killzone video real time?' debate.)

Re:Could've been better (1)

buswolley (591500) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294984)

27 games will be on the floor tomorrow. Relax and wait.

Re:Could've been better (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295059)

Actually, I think the remote has the right number of buttons for an NES controller. I think that SNES and Genesis will likely be played via a shell controller like they discussed in the past, with a few extra buttons on the shell. I'd pay good money to play SNES games on the virtual console with an SNES controller shell.

Re:Could've been better (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15295064)

The Wii controller doesn't have the proper amount of buttons, but the GC controller does (and the Wii supports GC controllers).

Super Smash Bros. not a release title... (2, Insightful)

Anitra (99093) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295091)

Super Smash Brothers (Melee!) wasn't a release title on the GameCube, why do you think the next one will be a release title on the Wii?

Re:Super Smash Bros. not a release title... (1)

MaverickUW (177871) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295164)

By the definition from Sony and Microsoft, it certainly was a launch title. It came out what, 3 weeks into the gamecube lifespan? Considering the other two set the launch window at the first 3 months (or Microsoft taking nearly 6 months to get out of the 360 launch window), 3 weeks is definitely a launch title.

I love the Wii (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15294954)

it's so bad.

Text coverage of the conference (5, Informative)

pjcreath (513472) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294956)

For those of you at work who want to know what happened without pulling up a (overloaded) video stream, here's a text summary [] of everything that happened.

Re:Text coverage of the conference (1)

DCstewieG (824956) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295152)

Many of us at work have port 8090 blocked :-(

However, this works [] .

Re:Text coverage of the conference (1)

AndreiK (908718) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295160)

Where exactly did you find video coverage? I can't find a link to it anywhere.

Best console launch ever (3, Informative)

Jerf (17166) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294957)

I'm thinking the Wii is going to be the best console launch ever. I'm counting at least six "must own" games for me: Mario Galaxies, Twilight Princess, Red Steel, Metroid Prime 3, FF: Crystal Chronicles (assuming SquareEnix puts some decent effort into it, which I expect they will), and Dragon Quest. Plus I'm interested in some of the other things they didn't talk about during the conference, like Sadness. (Don't know if I'll buy it, but I'm interested.)

Conducting the orchestra in real time as the opening was sheer brilliance.

Definitely more compelling to me than the Dreamcast, which in my (highly-debatable, of course) opinion held the previous best launch lineup, at least in the US.

Nintendo, I applaud you (5, Insightful)

Kaptain_Korolev (848551) | more than 8 years ago | (#15294961)

You listen, you notice, you innovate!

While the other two are busy trying to out do each other with hardware oneupmanship Nintendo is bringing us a console that is shock horror, fun to play and has games people want to play.

I don't own a console. I'm an electronics engineer, I spend all day on my ass in front of a computer thinking. When I come home I want to switch off, play a quick 30 mins of computer games that are fun. I DON'T want to play a game that takes hours to get into and that I must devote my life to.

I want a game like chess.... anyone can learn to play in a short while, but it takes ages to master.

Altogether now, Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!

Somewhat disappointed... (1)

kyle (in stereo) (949060) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295016)

Mainly in that there were no confirmed dates or prices, but I can wait for that.

Pilotwings, Excite Truck, Zelda, Disaster. They look pretty good. Red Steel was very nice, and I saw some 360 quality graphics.

Pricing (1, Troll)

Modab (153378) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295026)

Did you notice a lack of a pricing announcement? Something fishy here. They must not want to compete with the $200, $250 rumors going around, which means they are now planning a retail price of $300 or more. Perhaps the cost of 2 rumbling, speaker-enabled, ultra-gyroscopic controllers with an always-on internet box w/harddrive is pricier than the chintzy graphics would lead you to believe.

Or perhaps they realized that with their main competitor Sony selling their product basically for $600, they could afford to charge more, and scrapped the original pricing they were set to announce.

Re:Pricing (4, Insightful)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295067)

Or the price is low enough that they know Sony (and maybe Microsoft), if they saw it, would burn even more money by lowering their prices before launch. Or they're waiting to see if the price of certain components changes between now and launch.

We can speculate all we want, but the only thing we can say is that it's probably to allow Nintendo as much flexibility in pricing as possible.

Re:Pricing (5, Insightful)

mikeisme77 (938209) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295159)

More likely they're withholding the price for one of multiple reasons (I'll list 2):

1) So when MS announces their 360 price drop they can't factor in the price of the Wii

2) So that they can get more PR later on--maybe counter MS's price drop announcement with their launch price announcement (which will be at least $50 or less than the 360 core pack price)

Wii controller--speaker built-in? (1)

ereshiere (945922) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295041)

Is this the feature that Miyamoto et al wouldn't mention at other events?

How is it going to work? At Gamespot, I read that the controller will emit a "twang close to your ear" when you fire an arrow in Zelda, but that's kinda cheesy if it turns out to be just a mechanical-sounding noise in your hand. Is there some kind of 3D sound projection technology at work here?

Re:Wii controller--speaker built-in? (1)

CashCarSTAR (548853) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295138)

My laptop (a Toshiba) actually can do that sort of thing.

Not bad... (4, Insightful)

MaestroSartori (146297) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295076)

...and disclaimer, work for Sony, am the devil incarnate etc.

From the sections of the thing that I saw (Zelda, and Red Thingy the FPS) it looks like the Weemote works fairly well. One of the big worries I had, that it wasn't gonna be precise enough for decent lightgun-style control, wasn't an issue. Some of the gesture-based stuff also looked cool, like Link's shield-block in the Zelda fight.

One of the things I thought might be a problem did crop up in Red Thingy - using the "mouse-look" style of aiming to also rotate the viewpoint. It seemed like the character was fairly slow to turn around, throughout the demo it was all fairly gently turns rather than how I know I play fps games (twitching round corners like a caffeine bomb just went off).

I think a great deal of the success of the new control-style will be how well it maps onto what gamers expect it to do. We've had pads and sticks for a long time, and we've mostly grown accustomed to the quirks of how we map them to solutions - when these fail, like FPS y-axis inversion and left-right camera rotation in 3rd person games (my own personal bugbear), it really kills the enjoyment of the game for some players. If the blend of interaction is right, these things will fly off the shelves.

Maybe I'm oversimplifying... (5, Interesting)

FryingDutchman (891770) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295095)

I drive several cars...

The Mini Cooper is very very fun. Totally unrefined ride, doesn't present itself as well as a more elaborate or expensive sports car, but it's quick, nimble, and fun. Just fun.

The Mitsubishi Endeavor is a generic SUV. It's got leather and a loud stereo. You can do a lot with it, and it serves many purposes. Generic and useful.

The Dodge Viper is neurotic, takes it's design and engineering queues from many sources, but when the stars align and you find a situation to use it nothing is better.

In case you haven't caught on I'm making a very VERY poor attempt at generalizing that these 3 consoles are as far apart as you can get within the same arena of "nextGen Consoles". Mini = Wii. SUV = 360. PS3 = hypothetical viper.

Seems to me instead of arguing which is better (makes about as much sense as arguing if Starbucks makes a better cup of coffee than Burger King makes weird commercials) we should be revelling in the fact these billion dollar companies are competing fo fiercly to create a product we'll buy. Dance, monkeys! Also I will be buying PS3 and Wii. The 360 seems to fade out somewhere...

And no, I don't drive a viper, but I hear they're not slow.

Enter the "off-topic" mod...

Videos? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15295099)

Could someone post a link to videos? Preferably non-streaming?

Web Browser included? (2, Interesting)

JonNoH (973783) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295104)

Was it just me or did anyone else hear Iwata mention the Opera Web browser when talking about the Wii? This would be the first console since the Dreamcast to have that built in ability.

Re:Web Browser included? (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295122)

I don't recall the Dreamcast ever having a web-browser builtin. Yes it had a modem port (and eventually a brodband adapter), but that alone doesn't get you on the internet and cruisin'.

Re:Web Browser included? (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295171)

There was a web browser, but it wasn't built in. The Dreamcast came with a CD that had a web browser and an IRC client. You could use the D-pad to "type" -- a real keyboard was sold separately. I tried typing in an IRC room but I couldn't plunk out "hello" before the other person left :(

Re:Web Browser included? (1)

Newander (255463) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295173)

Mine shipped with a browser on a disk. Not built-in, but...

Re:Web Browser included? (1)

freeweed (309734) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295175)

The Dreamcast didn't have a built-in web browser. The browser came on a disc that was included with the console.

Fourth Quarter Not Confirmed (5, Insightful)

warmgun (669556) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295105)

Reggie actually said you'd be playing Wii by the fourth quarter. That isn't the same as saying it will launch in the fourth quarter. I wonder if they have a summer surprise up their sleeve... Their biggest launch title is a reworked Gamecube game.

Underwhelming (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15295111)

There's really nothing that appeals to a non-Nintendo fan like me contrary to what they are preaching. Playing is believing? No thanks. Besides I heard there's some secret in Wii but it turned out it's a speaker in the wiimote, which I don't think will be better utilized by game developers.

As for games, there were nothing that appealed to me in the lineup of 27 Wii games shown today. I don't play games to appreciate the "revolutionary" gameplay of wii, I just would like to play interactive contents. It requires balanced updates in all rounds, not just a new controller. If I point out there were too many gimmicky games for Wii fans will deny but who play Pilot Wings with the image quality shown today at the conference if it's not controlled by wiimote? If you've watched the Sony conference it has Warhawk demo, which looks 100x beautiful and fun.

Integrated Web Browser = Opera (2, Interesting)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295136)

So it seems that the work Opera did in making the webbrowser for the DS hasn't gone to waste -- it's going to be the integrated browser in Wii too. But, has Nintendo made any mention of an internal HD yet? I haven't seen anything in their specs about data storage, except mention that the Wii-motes will hold the save games.

Wii Will Wii Will ROCK YOU (5, Funny)

EmperorKagato (689705) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295137)

slam-slam,clap. slam-slam, clap. Wii Will Wii Will ROCK YOU! slam-slam,clap. slam-slam, clap.

Yeah (1)

cubicledrone (681598) | more than 8 years ago | (#15295179)

But the pundits don't like the name, therefore every dollar invested in the entire project was wasted. As we all know, the only opinion that matters is the nasal-voiced water-cooler-guy wearing loafers and his corporate identification card. They will continue to harp on the choice of name day after day after day until it drains every last molecule of joy from the very sunlight in the air.

Yes, that was sarcasm.

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