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Japan to Sponsor International Manga Contest?

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 8 years ago | from the draw-when-the-clock-strikes-high-noon dept.

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antifoidulus writes "According to Yahoo! news Japan is trying to boost its image abroad by promoting manga and anime, including possibly an international manga contest. They are also trying to double the number of people who eat Japanese food at least once a year to 1.2 billion(about 10x the population of Japan). While the article states that in the west the appeal of Japan is increasing, Japan is still having problems with its relations to fellow Asian countries such as China and South Korea."

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Let me be the first to say that... (0, Troll)

RoffleTheWaffle (916980) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299804)

... Japan is overrated.

It's... just a country... with some neat cartoons. Granted, there's a lot to appreciate about Japanese culture, but there's a lot to appreciate about most cultures.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

ceeam (39911) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299831)

But Japan is #2 country in economy and dare I say, cultural export, in the world.

Given that US pop-culture is PC-riddled mix of psychological complexes that puts Japan as the most interesting culture-exporting country in the world.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299916)

But Japan is #2 country in economy and dare I say, cultural export, in the world.

The number one country for cultural exports I presume would be India?

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

ceeam (39911) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300045)

No it wouldn't. I'm sure I have seen more japanese movies than indian movies, read more books by japanese authors than by indian authors, and I have seen exactly zero animations from India. Etc. I'm sure I'm in absolute majority.

Seriously - what kind of pop-culture and to what countries India sells?

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15300093)

Bollywood films are massive just about everywhere but the US.

They are especially popular in Asia and Africa.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300156)

No it wouldn't. I'm sure I have seen more japanese movies than indian movies, read more books by japanese authors than by indian authors, and I have seen exactly zero animations from India. Etc. I'm sure I'm in absolute majority.

You're almost certainly American. Post-war America & Japan have one of curious those victor/defeated relationships where they have a shared fascination with each other's culture (number 1+2 economies also helps).

Your mutual fascination does not extend around the rest of the world as much as you think it does.

Seriously - what kind of pop-culture and to what countries India sells?

*sighs* Largest film industry in the world. [wikipedia.org]

You've obviously never been outside America - but when you do, you'll see that Indian films are huge all over Asia (including China, curiously enough), Africa and even Eastern Europe (but most popular in countries like Thailand, Pakistan & Indonesia)

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (2, Interesting)

jpostel (114922) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300207)

You may have seen more Japanese movies than Indian ones, but that does not make them any less popular or scarce. The chart from BusinessWeek shows 2002 numbers for Bollywood (Indian Hollywood) vs. Hollywood. http://www.businessweek.com//magazine/content/02_4 8/art02_48/a48tab37.gif [businessweek.com]

If you read the Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollywood [wikipedia.org] you will see that they are increasingly being translated into English. I would not be suprised to start seeing some of these appear on screens in the US, or more likely the UK, in the next ten years.

All that said, I have seen way more Japanese films than Indian films, but they were almost all older Kurosawa black and white films. India does not have the historical cultural influence on the US like it does in the UK, since it was once a British colony, but that is changing with the growing numbers of Indian nationals moving to the US for college, grad school, and/or work.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

sakusha (441986) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300504)

...I have seen exactly zero animations from India.

Actually, if you've watched any American cartoons, you've seen animation from India. Most of the gruntwork in the US cartoon industry is outsourced to India and Korea.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300148)

But Japan is #2 country in economy and dare I say, cultural export, in the world.

Not sure about that last bit. That would likely be either India or the UK.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299835)

Japan is overrated.

By whom? In what way?

When it comes to comics/graphic novels/call it what you want, I don't actually know of any other country with as lively, large and varied market as Japan, so how is it overrated?

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300573)

When it comes to comics/graphic novels/call it what you want, I don't actually know of any other country with as lively, large and varied market as Japan, so how is it overrated?

Maybe after having grown up on American cartoons and comic books what the Japanese offer seems unique; like they say, the grass is always greener on the other side.

However, if you looks specifically at Japanese anime/manga it's the complete antithesis of variety. With some minor exceptions virtually every cartoon and comic book is drawn in exactly the same style. The vast majority of the writing is cloned from work that has come before. And most of it is uninspired.

In recent years all kind of crap has been dumped on the US market, but generally in the past Americans have only gotten the best anime/manga Japan had to offer.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

Guppy06 (410832) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300791)

... America is overrated.

It's... just a country... with some fake tits. Granted, there's a lot to appreciate about American culture, but there's a lot to appreciate about most cultures.

Re:Let me be the first to say that... (1)

RoffleTheWaffle (916980) | more than 8 years ago | (#15301035)

Glad someone agrees with me on that one, too.

that reminds me what to "get" today (2)

QX-Mat (460729) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299814)

Wednesday, must be a bleach day.

i know its not totally legal, but look at the dvds and tshirts I have... I've definately spend £150 on anime in the last 3 years of loving it. All because of the internet, LANs and some Naruto AMV I watched that totally threw anime for me: its not just for kids.

Even the justice league's pretty complicated. Their technobable is far more realistic and believable than 24's "Jack, I've opened you a socket through to the DOD computer I hacked"...

Matt

Re:that reminds me what to "get" today (1)

RobotRunAmok (595286) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299905)


Even the justice league's pretty complicated. Their technobable is far more realistic and believable than 24's "Jack, I've opened you a socket through to the DOD computer I hacked"...


Thanks for that: my head just exploded.

If Jack shot laser beams out of his eyes and swung from building to building on a rope tied to a bauerang, would that make it more "realistic and believable" for you?

Just think of Chloe's computer skills as super powers, and enjoy the show.

Re:that reminds me what to "get" today (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15299937)

If Jack shot laser beams out of his eyes and swung from building to building on a rope tied to a bauerang, would that make it more "realistic and believable" for you?

No, silly, though it would be cool if he had a large, anthropomorphic robot wielding a sword, and possibly a teen-terrifying tentacle monster.

Re:that reminds me what to "get" today (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 8 years ago | (#15300325)

swung from building to building on a rope tied to a bauerang,

I had no idea that Eddie Bauer [eddiebauer.com] labeled and sold superhero accessories. Very stylish, I'm sure.

Manga is a really stupid way to attract others (-1, Flamebait)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299821)

Unless you're trying to attract pedophiles, manga and anime are pretty much useless for improving international relations.

The main problem that Japan has is that it has a terrible legacy due to its international boonie stomping across Asia some 60 odd years ago. Though today they do not resemble the Japanese of those days, the Japanese and Koreans have a long memory, what with the Chinese not appreciating being made subordinate to a tiny island nation and the Koreans unable to pry themselves away from their deeply ingrained inferiority complex.

Holding a manga contest isn't going to affect those feelings one bit.

Re:Manga is a really stupid way to attract others (1)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300122)

the Chinese not appreciating being made subordinate to a tiny island nation

* whistles innocently and hopes like hell nobody mentions that little fracas with all the heroin *

Easy... (0)

gowen (141411) | more than 8 years ago | (#15299842)

All the best and most important Mangas are found in Bethlehem.

Oh, wait...

Sorry, that's "Mangers".

No! Really? (2, Insightful)

gaijin99 (143693) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300034)

Japan is still having problems with its relations to fellow Asian countries such as China and South Korea

No shit? Might that have something to do with the evil behavior of Japan back during the 1930's through 1940's? City named Nanjing ring a bell? Forcing large numbers of young Korean women to serve as sex slaves for the Imperial Japanese Army?

I'm something of a Japanophile, I'm working on a degree in East Asian Studies (focused on Japan), I'm learning the Japanese language, and I'll eventually be doing international law (again, focused on Japan). Point is I like Japan. But I can definately see how people from the nations Japan invaded during WWII would feel differently. They've got to get over it, just like the people in Europe had to get over their anti-German feelings, but their feelings are understandable.

Re:No! Really? (3, Interesting)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300158)

They've got to get over it, just like the people in Europe had to get over their anti-German feelings

Remember, though, that the Germans have done a far bigger sackcloth-and-ashes repentance routine since the war than have the Japanese. I gather they still officially deny what happened at Nanking, which is scarcely conducive to good relations. Then there was that business last year with the rather... questionable content of some of their high school history books. From what I see there's still a huge problem with the attitude of the Japanese themselves to the war... sure, they 'regret' it, so we hear whenever they almost but not quite apologise. But it sometimes seems like what they regret is that they lost.

Re:No! Really? (1)

Echnin (607099) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300559)

Japan does not officially deny the Nanjing massacre, but there are members of the Diet who do, and other officials, notably the major of Tokyo does. Prime Ministers, Emperors and other officials have given individual apologies to China, SK &c., but when prime minister Murayama proposed an official apology (jp:shazai) from the Diet in 1995, it was beaten down by the LDP, with 47% of the Diet voting against and 26% voting for it. Someone must have to tell me which politicians have used the word "shazai" referring to apologies, instead of just "hansei". Right-wing politicians: they're stuck-up nationalists no matter which country they're in. On the other side, Chinese and Koreans are often only vaguely aware of the facts regarding Japanese apology statements, and may believe that no Japanese officials have ever apologized; particularly in China, the propaganda machine is well-oiled. People in Japan, China, SK, NK of course, will all believe exactly those spun "facts" that support their own views, and those views are more often than not those which excuse their own actions or comdemn their opponents'. nakayokushirotteba!

Those silly Japanese.... (1)

kalirion (728907) | more than 8 years ago | (#15300283)

Don't they know that it's not manga if it's created outside of Japan? I have that on the best authority from Issue #247 of Japanophile Monthly.

Re:Those silly Japanese.... (1)

menace3society (768451) | more than 8 years ago | (#15306219)

No, it's only man-ga if it has at least 10000 panels.

Anime Translation (1)

rlp (11898) | more than 8 years ago | (#15301337)

How about the Japanese government either encourages more anime producers to provide English translation of their works and license distribution - or - legitimize fansub distributions via some formal mechanism (creative commons?). Perhaps some of both.
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